[Ag-eq] Grapes

Tracy Carcione carcione at access.net
Thu Apr 18 12:39:00 UTC 2013 

There's wild grape all around here.  It is very aggressive.  It makes tiny 
grapes, which don't have much taste.  I suppose those are not Muscadines?
Tracy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Grapes


> Susan:
>
> I remember muscadines growing in Arkansas.  I've had jelly and such made 
> from
> them.
>
> I know people grow grapes in Arizona, but I don't know what kind.
>
> Nella
>
>
> Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>
>> Hi Nella,
>>
>> Our grapes are muscadine grapes.  We have three verieties, two of each 
>> three
>> types.  They are native to the United States, most varieties are rather
>> large, thick skins and large seeds.  Their colors can range from deep
>> purple, bronze to a pale green.  Some people eat the thick peels, but 
>> most
>> people just toss them away.  We use them for wine, jelly and preserves. 
>> The
>> process for all three call for the grape hulls to be used.  The wine and
>> jelly process discard the hulls, but with the preserves, you slice them 
>> up
>> thin and they are part of the preserves.  When we are cooking them, the
>> whole house smells like the welches grape factory exploded in my kitchen! 
>> I
>> sure hope we get more grapes this year.  I want to make more jelly and
>> preserves and try making a grape hull pie.
>>
>> Susan
>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
>> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] test
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Susan:
>> >
>> > What kind of grapes do you grow?
>> >
>> > I didn't know there were thornless black berries, I will have to look 
>> > into
>> > those.  I don't know if they would grow here, but I'm going to find 
>> > out.
>> >
>> > The fan flowers sound beautiful; I'm glad you were able to get some.
>> >
>> > Nella
>> > Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>> >
>> >> Nella,
>> >>
>> >> I don't have anything in the ground yet.  We decided not to do the 
>> >> early
>> >> garden because we have had too many late snows, frost and infrequent 
>> >> rain
>> >> so
>> >> far.  Although, Matt has already trimmed up the grapes in February and 
>> >> we
>> >> are seeing real good early budding.  He will probably get fertalizer 
>> >> on
>> >> them
>> >> this weekend.  Matt has 5 thornless blackberries that he is going to 
>> >> get
>> >> in
>> >> the ground and between now and May 10th, he will hopefully get some 
>> >> seeds
>> >> in
>> >> the ground as well.  We can't put out plants until after May 10th due 
>> >> to
>> >> frost, but that can still be a gamble.
>> >>
>> >> There is a flower I have planted for the past two years that I just 
>> >> can't
>> >> get enough of them.  They are called Spanish Fans and their blooms 
>> >> look
>> >> like
>> >> colorful fans spred open.  They are in bright colors and do extremely
>> >> well
>> >> with our high humid heat.  The local family here that is now in their
>> >> third
>> >> generation of owner/workers usually has these flowers.  Last week, 
>> >> Matt
>> >> called to see if they had certain plants and he asked about my Spanish
>> >> Fans.
>> >> Jimmy told him he didn't think they had them this year until his 
>> >> daughter
>> >> who is about 18, piped up and told him that she knew I wanted them, so
>> >> she
>> >> made sure she planted extra for me.  Yay!  I am going to plant them 
>> >> this
>> >> year in two half whisky barrels on either side of my bench swing.
>> >>
>> >> Susan
>> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
>> >> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:03 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] test
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Susan:
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm glad to hear that Dober is doing so well.  To bad he won't be 
>> >> > able
>> >> > to
>> >> > make
>> >> > all of his wonderful hound sounds.  I love the sound of a baying 
>> >> > hound!
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you been able to plant any of your garden yet?
>> >> >
>> >> > Take care.
>> >> >
>> >> > Nella
>> >> >
>> >> > Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi Jody,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dover can wine, do a bit of a low growl and a quieter version of 
>> >> >> what
>> >> >> we
>> >> >> call hound talk.  He can't do the loud sort of yodel howling that a
>> >> >> walker
>> >> >> hound can do and they also can be rather vocal with wines, moans,
>> >> >> huffing
>> >> >> and other sound vocalizations that almost seems like they are 
>> >> >> talking
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> you.  Dover can still do some of this still along with pushing and
>> >> >> rubbing
>> >> >> his face, head, neck and shoulders up against you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> When I'm sitting on the porch, he stands tall enough that he can 
>> >> >> just
>> >> >> plop
>> >> >> his head and neck right across my belly and he canpress his chest 
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> shoulders all across my knees.  You might as well give him a minute 
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> he'll
>> >> >> just stand up on his hind legs, put a paw on your arm and shoulder 
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> litterly be nose to nose with you.  The silly dog.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> When Dover was laid up inside, he wanted to do the same thing with
>> >> >> laying
>> >> >> and rubbing his head and neck all over you.  The only problem with
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> he had the two open drains and all of those exposed stitches.  Now 
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> thing about tuching stitches, they just creep the crap out of me. 
>> >> >> So
>> >> >> when
>> >> >> Dover insisted on this sort of attention whenever I was sitting 
>> >> >> down,
>> >> >> I'd
>> >> >> just catch him at the chest with my sock feet and keep him at that
>> >> >> distance
>> >> >> so I could still pet and rub his head, ears, and muzzle without
>> >> >> tuching
>> >> >> his
>> >> >> stitches or being covered with his drain liquids.  He unfortunately
>> >> >> thought
>> >> >> this was a fun game for me to slide him backwards with my feet on 
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> slick
>> >> >> wooden floor, so he blessed me with doing it quite frequently until 
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> had
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> call for Matt to rescue me from the goofy beast.  LOL
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   We're thinking about downsizeing the garden this year because we
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> had
>> >> >> two locations and with the terrible drout we had last year, we just
>> >> >> about
>> >> >> lost everything because we couldn't irrigate because we lost power 
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> first
>> >> >> of July for 1 week.  No power ment no running water anywhere and 
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> generator couldn't help because the pump is hardwired into my house
>> >> >> fuse
>> >> >> box.  We had a hard enough time bringing in water from about 10 
>> >> >> miles
>> >> >> away
>> >> >> for us, the animals and his one row of grapes.  The grapes got 
>> >> >> enough
>> >> >> water
>> >> >> to survive, but they didn't produce any grapes and we were 
>> >> >> expecting
>> >> >> about
>> >> >> 25 gallons of grapes.  I would like to see him cut back on volume 
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> increase his veriety.  With him working 12 hour nights, 4 nights
>> >> >> straight
>> >> >> and then off 4 days straight, it really messes with your awake and
>> >> >> sleep
>> >> >> times.  To keep up with a place like this, it has to be enjoyable 
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> non-ending burden.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Susan
>> >> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Jody Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>> >> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" 
>> >> >> <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 7:10 AM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] test
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hello Susan,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Oh I am so glad hat Dover is better but what a shame he will 
>> >> >> > never
>> >> >> > bark
>> >> >> > again.  Can he make any sound at all?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Why do you want to shrink your garden?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > JODY
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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