[Ag-eq] Grapes
Susan Roe
dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
Fri Apr 19 09:54:01 UTC 2013
Tracy,
No, they are not Muscadines. They are probably fox grapes. Muscadines can
be a table grape, but their flesh is not like a normal grape and they have
thick skins or hulls. They are very jucy when ripe and a lot of their
flavor in cooking comes from the hulls.
Susan
dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Grapes
> There's wild grape all around here. It is very aggressive. It makes tiny
> grapes, which don't have much taste. I suppose those are not Muscadines?
> Tracy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Grapes
>
>
>> Susan:
>>
>> I remember muscadines growing in Arkansas. I've had jelly and such made
>> from
>> them.
>>
>> I know people grow grapes in Arizona, but I don't know what kind.
>>
>> Nella
>>
>>
>> Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>>
>>> Hi Nella,
>>>
>>> Our grapes are muscadine grapes. We have three verieties, two of each
>>> three
>>> types. They are native to the United States, most varieties are rather
>>> large, thick skins and large seeds. Their colors can range from deep
>>> purple, bronze to a pale green. Some people eat the thick peels, but
>>> most
>>> people just toss them away. We use them for wine, jelly and preserves.
>>> The
>>> process for all three call for the grape hulls to be used. The wine and
>>> jelly process discard the hulls, but with the preserves, you slice them
>>> up
>>> thin and they are part of the preserves. When we are cooking them, the
>>> whole house smells like the welches grape factory exploded in my
>>> kitchen! I
>>> sure hope we get more grapes this year. I want to make more jelly and
>>> preserves and try making a grape hull pie.
>>>
>>> Susan
>>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
>>> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] test
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Susan:
>>> >
>>> > What kind of grapes do you grow?
>>> >
>>> > I didn't know there were thornless black berries, I will have to look
>>> > into
>>> > those. I don't know if they would grow here, but I'm going to find
>>> > out.
>>> >
>>> > The fan flowers sound beautiful; I'm glad you were able to get some.
>>> >
>>> > Nella
>>> > Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>>> >
>>> >> Nella,
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't have anything in the ground yet. We decided not to do the
>>> >> early
>>> >> garden because we have had too many late snows, frost and infrequent
>>> >> rain
>>> >> so
>>> >> far. Although, Matt has already trimmed up the grapes in February
>>> >> and we
>>> >> are seeing real good early budding. He will probably get fertalizer
>>> >> on
>>> >> them
>>> >> this weekend. Matt has 5 thornless blackberries that he is going to
>>> >> get
>>> >> in
>>> >> the ground and between now and May 10th, he will hopefully get some
>>> >> seeds
>>> >> in
>>> >> the ground as well. We can't put out plants until after May 10th due
>>> >> to
>>> >> frost, but that can still be a gamble.
>>> >>
>>> >> There is a flower I have planted for the past two years that I just
>>> >> can't
>>> >> get enough of them. They are called Spanish Fans and their blooms
>>> >> look
>>> >> like
>>> >> colorful fans spred open. They are in bright colors and do extremely
>>> >> well
>>> >> with our high humid heat. The local family here that is now in their
>>> >> third
>>> >> generation of owner/workers usually has these flowers. Last week,
>>> >> Matt
>>> >> called to see if they had certain plants and he asked about my
>>> >> Spanish
>>> >> Fans.
>>> >> Jimmy told him he didn't think they had them this year until his
>>> >> daughter
>>> >> who is about 18, piped up and told him that she knew I wanted them,
>>> >> so
>>> >> she
>>> >> made sure she planted extra for me. Yay! I am going to plant them
>>> >> this
>>> >> year in two half whisky barrels on either side of my bench swing.
>>> >>
>>> >> Susan
>>> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
>>> >> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:03 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] test
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Susan:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I'm glad to hear that Dober is doing so well. To bad he won't be
>>> >> > able
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > make
>>> >> > all of his wonderful hound sounds. I love the sound of a baying
>>> >> > hound!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Have you been able to plant any of your garden yet?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Take care.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Nella
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Hi Jody,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Dover can wine, do a bit of a low growl and a quieter version of
>>> >> >> what
>>> >> >> we
>>> >> >> call hound talk. He can't do the loud sort of yodel howling that
>>> >> >> a
>>> >> >> walker
>>> >> >> hound can do and they also can be rather vocal with wines, moans,
>>> >> >> huffing
>>> >> >> and other sound vocalizations that almost seems like they are
>>> >> >> talking
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> you. Dover can still do some of this still along with pushing and
>>> >> >> rubbing
>>> >> >> his face, head, neck and shoulders up against you.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> When I'm sitting on the porch, he stands tall enough that he can
>>> >> >> just
>>> >> >> plop
>>> >> >> his head and neck right across my belly and he canpress his chest
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> shoulders all across my knees. You might as well give him a
>>> >> >> minute or
>>> >> >> he'll
>>> >> >> just stand up on his hind legs, put a paw on your arm and shoulder
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> litterly be nose to nose with you. The silly dog.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> When Dover was laid up inside, he wanted to do the same thing with
>>> >> >> laying
>>> >> >> and rubbing his head and neck all over you. The only problem with
>>> >> >> that
>>> >> >> is
>>> >> >> he had the two open drains and all of those exposed stitches. Now
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >> have
>>> >> >> a
>>> >> >> thing about tuching stitches, they just creep the crap out of me.
>>> >> >> So
>>> >> >> when
>>> >> >> Dover insisted on this sort of attention whenever I was sitting
>>> >> >> down,
>>> >> >> I'd
>>> >> >> just catch him at the chest with my sock feet and keep him at that
>>> >> >> distance
>>> >> >> so I could still pet and rub his head, ears, and muzzle without
>>> >> >> tuching
>>> >> >> his
>>> >> >> stitches or being covered with his drain liquids. He
>>> >> >> unfortunately
>>> >> >> thought
>>> >> >> this was a fun game for me to slide him backwards with my feet on
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> slick
>>> >> >> wooden floor, so he blessed me with doing it quite frequently
>>> >> >> until I
>>> >> >> had
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> call for Matt to rescue me from the goofy beast. LOL
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> We're thinking about downsizeing the garden this year because we
>>> >> >> have
>>> >> >> had
>>> >> >> two locations and with the terrible drout we had last year, we
>>> >> >> just
>>> >> >> about
>>> >> >> lost everything because we couldn't irrigate because we lost power
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> first
>>> >> >> of July for 1 week. No power ment no running water anywhere and
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> generator couldn't help because the pump is hardwired into my
>>> >> >> house
>>> >> >> fuse
>>> >> >> box. We had a hard enough time bringing in water from about 10
>>> >> >> miles
>>> >> >> away
>>> >> >> for us, the animals and his one row of grapes. The grapes got
>>> >> >> enough
>>> >> >> water
>>> >> >> to survive, but they didn't produce any grapes and we were
>>> >> >> expecting
>>> >> >> about
>>> >> >> 25 gallons of grapes. I would like to see him cut back on volume
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> increase his veriety. With him working 12 hour nights, 4 nights
>>> >> >> straight
>>> >> >> and then off 4 days straight, it really messes with your awake and
>>> >> >> sleep
>>> >> >> times. To keep up with a place like this, it has to be enjoyable
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> not
>>> >> >> a
>>> >> >> non-ending burden.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Susan
>>> >> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> From: "Jody Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>>> >> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'"
>>> >> >> <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 7:10 AM
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] test
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Hello Susan,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Oh I am so glad hat Dover is better but what a shame he will
>>> >> >> > never
>>> >> >> > bark
>>> >> >> > again. Can he make any sound at all?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Why do you want to shrink your garden?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > JODY
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
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