[Ag-eq] Cooking Lamb

Susan Roe dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
Fri Sep 27 19:13:49 UTC 2013


Nella,

I like lamb chops.  I take them and put them in the frying pan with at least 
1 inch of water in them.  I bring the water to a boil, and only for a 
minute, turn them over and turn off the heat.  I set the chops aside and 
dump out the water.  This is what is called par boiling, in order to render 
off some of the fat.  Lamb is a very marbled meat, meaning the fat is mixed 
throughout the meat and is hard to trim without losing too much meat.  Then 
I take the chops and flour them with flour mixed with herbs.  Put a little 
oil in your pan and fry them like a pork chop.

I like lamb stew, or Irish stew, but I don't like left overs because the 
grease floats to the top and is rather thick.  To me, reheating it only 
makes the grease a stronger flavor.  yuck

I have also tried lamb burgers that have been mixed with ground beef and 
that isn't too bad.

Susan
dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Classification of sheep meat: wasRe: Lambing 
ontheBlanchRanch: a tragedy


> Susan:
>
> How do you cook the lamb meat?
>
>
> I wonder if there is a big taste differnce between the lamb and mutton or 
> is it
> more of a texture difference?
>
> Nella
> Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>
>> Nella,
>>
>> Both of us eat lamb, but I'm rather particular on how it is cooked.  I 
>> have
>> never eaten mutten, but Matt has.
>>
>> Susan
>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
>> To: "Jewel" <jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>; "Agricultural and Equestrean
>> Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 7:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Classification of sheep meat: wasRe: Lambing on
>> theBlanchRanch: a tragedy
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks Jewel, now I can impress Mike with my knowledge!
>> >
>> > Yes, I had never heard the term hogget until you explained it.  I don't
>> > eat
>> > meat, so am not hanging about any butcher shops!
>> >
>> > Actually I don't know many people that eat lamb and mutton.  I see it 
>> > on
>> > some
>> > resturant menus, but that's all.
>> >
>> > Nella
>> > Quoting Jewel <jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>:
>> >
>> >> I did, or thought that I did send a message to  ag-eq regarding
>> >> classification of sheep meat, but,
>> >> perhaps it is on its way to outer space following the tracks left by
>> >> Voyager.
>> >>
>> >> Repeated message:  When I was a kid, sheep meat was sold as red 
>> >> stripe,
>> >> blue
>> >> stripe or
>> >> yellow stripe:  red being first class lamb, blue: hogget and yellow:
>> >> mutton.
>> >>  The stripe qualification was dispensed with years ago, but the
>> >> classifications of lamb, hogget and
>> >> mutton are still used, but they do not, exactly, mirror the age
>> >> classifications of the live animal,
>> >> so in the butcher shop, lamb is from birth to 1 year, hogget from 1 to 
>> >> 2
>> >> and
>> >> mutton from 2 and
>> >> older.
>> >> I think that if you were to ask for hogget in an American butchery,
>> >> unless
>> >> the butcher was a Kiwi,
>> >> he, or she, would look at you with raised eyebrows and ask if it was
>> >> sucking
>> >> pig that you wanted!
>> >>
>> >>       Jewel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>> >> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:14 AM
>> >> To: "Jewel" <jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Lambing on the BlanchRanch proceeds at a 
>> >> breakneck
>> >> pace
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Jewel:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for explaining sheep termonology!
>> >>
>> >> When does the meat stop being lamb and become mutton?
>> >>
>> >> Are there other terms for the meat besides lamb and mutton?
>> >>
>> >> Nella
>> >> Quoting Jewel <jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>:
>> >>
>> >> > This year, I have 11 ewes, and usually have around that number.  I 
>> >> > did
>> >> > have
>> >> > 20 one year but that,
>> >> > for my property, is really too many.
>> >> > They are crossbred Romney Hampshires with one R/H dorper cross.  I
>> >> > don't
>> >> keep
>> >> > a ram as they are too
>> >> > dangerous;  out in the wide open paddock they are fine but when
>> >> > enclosed in
>> >> a
>> >> > small area from which
>> >> > they can't escape, they go into fight or flight mode and as flight 
>> >> > is
>> >> > impossible, they fight, and
>> >> > believe me, a ram makes a formidable foe, especially when you can't 
>> >> > see
>> >> > him
>> >> > coming!
>> >> > I buy a ram hogget in for the breeding season and then resell it to 
>> >> > the
>> >> meat
>> >> > works as prime lamb.
>> >> > Several of my ewes were born in 07 so their breeding life is really 
>> >> > at
>> >> > an
>> >> > end, so they will be sold
>> >> > as mutton:  one of them, sadly, I think is Petula, the one that has
>> >> > made a
>> >> > bit of a pet of herself
>> >> > and who had the abscess in her throat;  btw, she is fine now.
>> >> > I think that I will also sell the 3 that didn't get in lamb plus the
>> >> whether
>> >> > lambs in March.
>> >> > All this thinning out will mean that I will keep the ewe lambs to 
>> >> > bring
>> >> > the
>> >> > flock back up to
>> >> > strength.
>> >> > It is the common practice amongst proper sheep farmers to put their 
>> >> > ewe
>> >> > hoggets to the ram, but the,
>> >> > the ewe hoggets have to be a minimum weight of 50kg and I rarely 
>> >> > have
>> >> > them
>> >> > that well-grown at that
>> >> > age.
>> >> > FYI:  terminology from birth:  birth to 6 months is a lamb;  6 
>> >> > months
>> >> > to a
>> >> > year:  a hogget;  1 to 2
>> >> > years:  a 2-tooth;  2 years to 3:  a 4-tooth and after that:  a
>> >> > full-mouth
>> >> or
>> >> > aged.  2-tooth and
>> >> > 4-tooth refer to the number of adult teeth the sheep has.  At 3 
>> >> > years,
>> >> > it
>> >> has
>> >> > its full compliment of
>> >> > 6 adult teeth, hence full-mouthed.
>> >> > Going back to mating them as hoggets, they have to be a minimum 
>> >> > weight
>> >> > of
>> >> > 50kg and I rarely have
>> >> > them that well-grown by the age of 6 months, so next year may be a
>> >> > lambless
>> >> > year;  however, I will
>> >> > ask Andrew from whom I buy sheep to run his experienced eye over 
>> >> > them
>> >> > and
>> >> > tell me what he thinks.
>> >> >
>> >> >           Jewel
>> >> > --------------------------------------------------
>> >> > From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
>> >> > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:49 AM
>> >> > To: "Jewel" <jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>; "Agricultural and Equestrean
>> >> Division
>> >> > List"
>> >> > <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Lambing on the BlanchRanch proceeds at a 
>> >> > breakneck
>> >> pace
>> >> >
>> >> > Jewel:
>> >> >
>> >> > How many ewes do you have?
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you keep your own ram?
>> >> >
>> >> > Also what breed of sheep do you have?
>> >> >
>> >> > Nella
>> >> >
>> >> > Quoting Jewel <jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>:
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > A busy morning!  When I went out to the barn to feed the ewes, 
>> >> > > from
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > sounds of newborn lamb
>> >> > > bleats, 2 of the ewes had lambed in a small catching pen.
>> >> > > When I searched around I found 2 lambs up on their feet, and one 
>> >> > > ewe
>> >> > > lamb
>> >> > > that didn't look too
>> >> > > bright, so I brought her inside and put her in front of the fan
>> >> > > heater to
>> >> > > warm up and then  took her
>> >> > > back to the newly-lambed ewes that I had shifted into another pen. 
>> >> > > I
>> >> > didn't
>> >> > > know which ewe she
>> >> > > belonged to but I hoped that they did.
>> >> > > >From the calling of one of the ewes and the answering lamb bleat
>> >> > > >from
>> >> > inside
>> >> > > the other half of the
>> >> > > barn, I figured that when I rehomed them, I had missed a lamb, so 
>> >> > > I
>> >> hunted
>> >> > > for it, found it and
>> >> > > reunited the family.
>> >> > > The one that I had taken inside to the heater seems to be ok now.
>> >> > > I will not be hand-feeding any lambs;  they make it on their own 
>> >> > > to,
>> >> > > eventually,  become lamb roasts
>> >> > > or they won't!
>> >> > >
>> >> > >          Jewel
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
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>> >>
>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>> >> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:49 PM
>> >> To: "Jewel" <jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>; "Agricultural and Equestrean
>> >> Division
>> >> List"
>> >> <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Lambing on the BlanchRanch:  a tragedy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Jewel:
>> >>
>> >> The other day Mike and I were having a discussion about when is sheep
>> >> meat
>> >> called lamb and when is it called mutton.  I know you said lambs are
>> >> under 6
>> >> months old, so is lamb meat only from 6 month or less animals?
>> >>
>> >> Also are there any other words for the meat besides lamb and mutton?
>> >>
>> >> Mike likes to order lamb meat because he knows it bothers me.  I 
>> >> always
>> >> say
>> >> that
>> >> lambs are to much like little goats and of course I love goats.  I 
>> >> love
>> >> goats
>> >> for pets, not food!
>> >>
>> >> Nella
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Quoting Jewel <jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>:
>> >>
>> >> > I apologise if the following message has already been on the list. 
>> >> > I
>> >> > don't
>> >> > see it in sent items,
>> >> > and it does seem that some of my messages are going astray as are 
>> >> > some
>> >> > that
>> >> > are addressed to me.
>> >> >
>> >> >       Jewel
>> >> >
>> >> > I have a tragedy to relate and it was caused, mainly, because I am
>> >> > blind
>> >> > which would have been
>> >> > cancelled out if I had been just a bit more thorough.
>> >> > I let the ewes and their lambs out into the back paddock:  oh! 
>> >> > maybe 4
>> >> days
>> >> > ago.  However,
>> >> > yesterday, when Sam, my honorary shepherd came to count the lambs, 
>> >> > he
>> >> > found
>> >> > that one ewe and her
>> >> > lamb had been left shut in the stockyard.  I had heard the 
>> >> > occasional
>> >> > baah,
>> >> > but I assumed that it
>> >> > was from one of the ewes in the paddock.
>> >> > The ewe had died, of starvation I would guess, as, not knowing that
>> >> > there
>> >> was
>> >> > a sheep there, I had
>> >> > not been putting out any feed.  I had intended to open the yard 
>> >> > where
>> >> > there
>> >> > is a water trough, but
>> >> > as there was no feed there and there are other water troughs out in 
>> >> > the
>> >> > paddock, I hadn't!
>> >> > When Sam found them, the ewe was cold, but must have died that 
>> >> > morning
>> >> > as
>> >> the
>> >> > lamb had been feeding
>> >> > from her even after her death:  I didn't know that that could happen
>> >> > ! he was fine and is now being bottle-fed.
>> >> > I had said that I would not be hand-rearing anything, but this, of
>> >> > course,
>> >> is
>> >> > a completely different
>> >> > case as the lamb is strong and healthy, and he, sure, is that!  I 
>> >> > have
>> >> never
>> >> > seen such a big lamb
>> >> > for his age which is about a week.  He must weigh 10 pounds and 
>> >> > already
>> >> > is
>> >> up
>> >> > to my knees in height.
>> >> > I didn't have any replacer milk powder so, until I could get some, I
>> >> > gave
>> >> him
>> >> > cow's milk which, at
>> >> > first, he thought was vile, but he changed his mind and was away 
>> >> > with a
>> >> hiss
>> >> > and a roar.  Well,
>> >> > perhaps, not the best choice of words, as he is very quiet.
>> >> > His name, btw, is Rambo!
>> >> >
>> >> >          Jewel
>> >>
>> >>
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