[Ag-eq] Chicken Killer

Fri Oct 18 15:57:44 UTC 2013

Susan:

I live in south Phoenix, it's a little less than an hour to Casa Grande.

I really miss the fall weather; we don't have much of a fall here.

The weather has finally cooled down and it's quite nice now.  The nights and
mornings feel crisp and the days aren't to hot.

Nella
Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:

> Well, green is definitely fading here except for the boxwoods, holly and
> evergreens.  Where exactly do you live in Arizona?  I told Matt about the
> Arizona possie and he was wondering where you were because he lived in
> Arizona as a child for a while in Casa Grande and still has family in
> Arizona.
>
> Susan
> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Chicken Killer
>
>
> >
> > Susan:
> >
> > Mike just laughed and said he understood your frustration.  Then he said
> > that he
> > doesn't like killing things that he doesn't plan on eating.  I told him
> > that
> > surely somewhere people eat cats!
> >
> > People always laugh at Mike and I; He's a meat eating hunter and I'm a
> > vegetarian!
> >
> > I just wanted an excuse to visit somewhere green.
> >
> > Nella
> >
> > Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
> >
> >> Oh great, I'm gonna get a possie from Arizona to come and rid me of my
> >> varments!  What did Mike say to that?
> >>
> >> Susan
> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
> >> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:05 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Chicken Killer
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I asked Mike about guns and he said that a shot gun is more gun than
> >> > you
> >> > need
> >> > for a cat.  Then he asked what cat did I want him to kill!
> >> >
> >> > I suggested that we should take a road trip to VA and help Susan with
> >> > the
> >> > cat
> >> > problem.
> >> >
> >> > Nella
> >> > Quoting nfoster at extremezone.com:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't know much about guns, but I think a shot gun is over kill for
> >> >> a
> >> >> cat.
> >> >> I'll ask Mike, he has every kind of gun imaginable and knows the best
> >> >> uses
> >> >> for
> >> >> them.
> >> >>
> >> >> Nella
> >> >> Quoting James K <jakon22 at gmail.com>:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Does your husband have a shotgun? If not, he should get one and be
> >> >> > done
> >> >> with
> >> >> > this cat once and for all.
> >> >> > A .22 also works well. The shells are also cheaper.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Oct 15, 2013, at 5:22 PM, "Jewel" <jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Susan!  can you get hold of a trap cage from your local game and
> >> >> > > fishery
> >> >> > department and bait it and,
> >> >> > > hopefully, the feral cat will walk in, and then you can have him
> >> >> > > shot
> >> >> > > or
> >> >> > destroyed by a  vet but why
> >> >> > > spend more money on the gbastard?  he has cost you enough
> >> >> > > already!.
> >> >> > > The bleeding heart brigade would throw their hands up in violent
> >> >> > > protest
> >> >> > about killing the darling
> >> >> > > creature, but they would take quite a different view if it was
> >> >> > > their
> >> >> > animals that it was tearing to
> >> >> > > pieces!
> >> >> > > I have every sympathy for the feral as it is only doing what a
> >> >> > > wild
> >> >> animal
> >> >> > has to do:  that is:
> >> >> > > hunting for its food, and in your captive chooks, he has found a
> >> >> > > source
> >> >> of
> >> >> > easy victims, but those
> >> >> > > captive chooks are in your care so they must be protected as they
> >> >> > > cannot
> >> >> > fly out of harm's way;
> >> >> > > therefore,  either the prey goes, or the predator, and if you
> >> >> > > don't
> >> >> > > take
> >> >> > vigorous action soon, it is
> >> >> > > going to be the former.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >        Jewel
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------
> >> >> > > From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> >> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:16 AM
> >> >> > > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> > > Subject: [Ag-eq] Chicken Killer
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Well, we definitely have uncovered our chicken killer.  Not a fox,
> >> >> > > but a
> >> >> > large farel yellow tom that
> >> >> > > comes around from spring to fall, spreading his seed and then
> >> >> > > leaves.
> >> >> > > He
> >> >> > does not get fed with our
> >> >> > > cats along with a few other roaming toms, so he has just decided
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > start
> >> >> > helping himself.  In the
> >> >> > > past month, he has killed 7 hens and my last rooster.  Him killing
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > rooster is what gave him
> >> >> > > away.  That night, he got into coop 3 and tore a hen to pieces.
> >> >> > > The
> >> >> > rooster didn't go so quietly,
> >> >> > > he died fighting and it was the marks he left on the cat that gave
> >> >> > > him
> >> >> > away.  The last hen that was
> >> >> > > taken was on Friday morning about 5:30 a.m. and I heard it when it
> >> >> > happened.  When my sister went to
> >> >> > > check a bit later, he had for the first time actually gotten the
> >> >> > > hen
> >> >> > > out
> >> >> of
> >> >> > the coop, through the
> >> >> > > hen yard and outside their enclosure.  When my sister turned the
> >> >> > > corner
> >> >> > behind coops 2 and 3, he was
> >> >> > > pulling feathers out so he could feed.  He didn't run away from
> >> >> > > her
> >> >> > > when
> >> >> > she approached, just
> >> >> > > stood up and slowly walked away like he was telling you he'd be
> >> >> > > back
> >> >> > > for
> >> >> > more later when he got
> >> >> > > hungry again.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I am now down to only 4 hens, 2 buffs, 1 bard and my one loan
> >> >> > > black
> >> >> > > hen
> >> >> who
> >> >> > is my oldest.  We've
> >> >> > > even had to stop selling eggs.  My husband is coming home from
> >> >> > > Seattle
> >> >> > tonight and we are going to
> >> >> > > put the 4 hens in coop 1 where nothing has been able to get in and
> >> >> > > we
> >> >> will
> >> >> > continue to shut up the
> >> >> > > coop at night.  Coop 2 and 3 will now have to go through a total
> >> >> > > strip
> >> >> down
> >> >> > to make it cat proof and
> >> >> > > figure out a way so nothing can dig down under the coops to get to
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> main
> >> >> > yards.  All hens will
> >> >> > > now have to be put up at night for added security.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I will really have to get the two flocks of hens next year, 25
> >> >> > > hens
> >> >> > > each
> >> >> > and a rooster for each
> >> >> > > coop.  I think Rhode Island Reds are going to be my choices, large
> >> >> > > brown
> >> >> > egg laying hens and the
> >> >> > > roosters are extremely protective.  I know without a shadow of a
> >> >> > > doubt,
> >> >> > that if I still had Big Red,
> >> >> > > a Rhode Island Red rooster, the cat may have come in, but he
> >> >> > > wouldn't
> >> >> > > be
> >> >> > leaving alive.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Susan
> >> >> > > dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
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