[Ag-eq] Temporary chemical

Jewel jewelblanch at kinect.co.nz
Mon Aug 24 01:47:01 UTC 2015 

Many years ago, I heard that a drug was being considered that would allow farmers to run animals of 
both sexes together, while controlling mating/rutting.
The idea was that the farmer could inject this drug into a male that would render him, temporarily, 
sterile;  however, the effect of the drug would wear off in a given length of time.
Such a drug would be a boon for smallholders where it is, often, difficult to have separate grazing 
for males and females.
Does anyone know if this drug was ever perfected, and if so, has it been successful?

         Jewel

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From: "Nella Foster via Ag-eq" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:27 PM
To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Apple harvest

Zac:

I rarely keep a goat in a pen by itself.  They are herd animals and are happier
in groups.

I do seperate when they are close to kidding or if one is sick or injured.
Depending on the illness or injury I may put another animal in as a friend.

Most of my pens are set up so the animals can see each other.  Often when I
seperate one I find the rest of the herd hanging around the outside of that
pen.

My horse is very good with all the goats and they really like him.  If I isolate
one of the goats in the small pasture I will put the horse in there for company.

I have alot fewer animals than you do so it is easier for me to keep track of
the individuals.

I try and use the pasture as much as possible, less stall cleaning for me!

When the kid goats are very young it is hard for me to tell them apart.  I
started putting little break away collars on them.  The collars are all
different so I can tell the kids apart.  As they grow I find little differences
about each kid.

Nella
Quoting Zach Mason via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>:

> I do have some vision, grew up on what is considered today a small dairy
> farm, and concur with Nella that goats and sheep are less messy than cows
> and chickens. On my family dairy farm I fed the calves. In our set up,
> calves were fed twice per day. I was able to detect calves going off feed
> sooner than anyone else except my mother.
>
> I have another bone to pick with the group, this time about animal welfare.
> Do those of you who have animals keep them in individual pens or stalls when
> not on pasture? I ask because, for me group housing animals makes it
> difficult for me to make sure everyone is healthy. The sure way to make sure
> calves are drinking would be to buy a robotic calf feeder, but that costs
> thousands of dollars. Several "Animal Rights" groups are against individual
> housing, but most of the people I've met don't have farm experience and know
> what it takes to grow a healthy calf, much less how to do it with impaired
> eyesight.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Zac
>
> P.S. I've started my master's at Mississippi State University. My project is
> the effect of heat stress on dairy calves. I'm game to meet as many NFB and
> blindness support allies as possible.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Ledet
> via Ag-eq
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 7:42 PM
> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
> Cc: Danielle Ledet
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Apple harvest
>
> Thanks very much. This is interesting I do enjoy reading your posts. I
> love little goats. They are pretty cool and friendly. That is how I
> would do the gardening okay thanks for confirming. Thanks for the
> insight.
>
> On 8/23/15, David Andrews via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > GMO is genetically modified organism, so GMO-free meat would be from
> > an animal that had had no genetic manipulation etc .  I don't know if
> > it also means they haven't eaten any gmo modified grain etc.?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 04:26 PM 8/23/2015, you wrote:
> >>Could you explain what GMO free meat is?
> >>
> >>Zac
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nella Foster
> >> via
> >>Ag-eq
> >>Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:17 PM
> >>To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
> >>Cc: nfoster at extremezone.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Apple harvest
> >>
> >>Tracy:
> >>
> >>I plan on keeping the young doe goats asuming they are healthy and grow
> >>well.
> >>My dose have all kidded easily and are good milkers, so hope their
> >> daughters
> >>will be the same.  Two of the dose are getting older so can probably only
> >>breed them one more time.
> >>
> >>I will casterate the young bucks and they will go to someone's table.
> >> I've
> >>made contact with a couple of butchers in the area that specialize in
> >> grass
> >>fed and GMO free meats.  I plan on following their guidelines so they will
> >>buy the kids I don't want.  This is hard for me, but I cannot keep all of
> >>them.  I could sell any unwanted doelings as milk goats since they come
> >> from
> >>good milking lines.
> >>
> >>I will be selling milk; we are allowed to sell raw milk here as long as
> >> it's
> >>picked up from the farm.  There are a few regulations you have to meet to
> >>sell the milk, that is why I'm building the milk barn.  I've met a family
> >>that live a few miles away that are selling fresh Jersey milk and they
> >>cannot keep up with the demand.  Unfortunately I'm not allowed to sell
> >>cheese, only the milk.
> >>I can sell the goat milk soap since it's not being eaten.
> >>
> >>Nella
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Quoting Tracy Carcione via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>:
> >>
> >> > Hi Nella.
> >> > Chocolate sounds very nice!
> >> > What will you do with the kids?  Will your herd get bigger and bigger,
> >> > or will your neighbors be eating roast kid?
> >> > Tracy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nella
> >> > Foster via Ag-eq
> >> > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 9:30 PM
> >> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
> >> > Cc: nfoster at extremezone.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Apple harvest
> >> >
> >> > Tracy:
> >> >
> >> > I recently got a dehydrator and so far have only dried some peppers
> >> > and herbs.
> >> >
> >> > The buck goats can get aggressive, but this little guy has been
> >> > handled since birth and I continue to spend time with him.  He is very
> >> > friendly and will follow me around like a puppy.  I think he will be
> >> > o.k. as long as I keep handling him and don't let him get away with
> >> > bad behavior.  I've met several bucks that are friendly and the people
> >> > were petting them and spending time with them.  I've seen a couple
> >> > that were aggressive, but they were just out in a pasture and didn't
> >> > have
> >>a lot of human interaction.
> >> >
> >> > The worse thing about a buck goat is how stinky they get.  so far
> >> > Chocolate isn't very smelly because he is still young.  They get more
> >> > smelly when they reach adulthood.  His name is Chocolate, which fits
> >> > right into my heard, the girls all have candy names.
> >> >
> >> > I purchased Chocolate from a nice Amish family.  All their animals
> >> > were so healthy and friendly.  He is registered and their herd has
> >> > been tested for certain diseases, which is what I wanted to find.
> >> > They even called to make sure he is doing o.k. and didn't get to
> >> > stressed by the move.  I've kept their contact info so that we can do
> >>business again.
> >> >
> >> > I think they had to call from a neighbors, they don't use phones.
> >> > When I called I spoke to the neighbor; it was strange, but all worked
> >> > out.
> >> >
> >> > Nella
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Quoting Tracy Carcione via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Nella.
> >> > > My apples are Golden Delicious, sweet/tart, the way I like them.
> >> > > I'd forgotten about drying, and I have a dehydrator.  I'll have to
> >> > > try
> >>it.
> >> > > This morning, I separated the apples into "use today" and "will keep
> >> > > a
> >> > bit".
> >> > > After lunch, applesauce!  And maybe more.
> >> > >
> >> > > Your barn sounds great! And your buck sounds cute.  Do male goats
> >> > > get aggressive, when they reach maturity?
> >> > > Tracy
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nella
> >> > > Foster via Ag-eq
> >> > > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 5:00 PM
> >> > > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
> >> > > Cc: nfoster at extremezone.com
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Apple harvest
> >> > >
> >> > > Tracy:
> >> > >
> >> > > What kind of apples?
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm so jealous, love fresh apples.
> >> > >
> >> > > Wonder how long until my little trees start bearing fruit?
> >> > >
> >> > > Do you ever dry them?
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm still getting tomatoes, peppers, squash and cucumbers.
> >> > >
> >> > > I bought a little buck goat and put out with my doe goats.  He's
> >> > > kind of young, so don't know if he is old enough to do his job yet!
> >> > > He is very cute, will grow up to be a handsome boy.  He and 2 of my
> >> > > dose have genes for spots, so hoping I get some spotted babies.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm turning my shop building into a milk barn.  The guys are working
> >> > > on it right now.  There will be a room to store hay, a room for
> >> > > milking and a room to put the goats when they kid and to keep the
> >> > > really young kids out of the weather.
> >> > > It is going to make milking so much easier.  There is a pen on one
> >> > > side where I will bring the girls, then I can take them into the
> >> > > milk room to milk and put them out a door on the other side.
> >> > >
> >> > > I finally have goat proof fencing around the whole pasture, so the
> >> > > goats and Cruiser can all be together.  Hopefully by next spring I
> >> > > will have more fences up to divide the pasture so I can rotate the
> >> > > animals around.  They graze it more even that way.
> >> > >
> >> > > What is everyone else up to?
> >> > >
> >> > > Nella
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Quoting Tracy Carcione via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>:
> >> > >
> >> > > > The apple harvest is starting to roll in.  Literally, since I'm
> >> > > > picking them up off the ground and often finding them by
> >> > > > accidentally kicking them.  My young retriever is also good at
> >> > > > finding apples.  He has a soft mouth, and can pick them up without
> >> > > > a scratch, but I'm trying to teach him not to pick up
> >> > > > miscellaneous things
> >> > off the ground.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Yesterday, I took a medium-size bucket and filled it to the top.
> >> > > > I'll have to sort them this weekend, green or ripe. Then I'll
> >> > > > start making
> >> > > applesauce.
> >> > > > I've also found a pandowdy recipe that sounds yummy.  Applesauce
> >> > > > is the easiest though, since all I have to do is boil the apples
> >> > > > 10-15 minutes, then run them through the whatchamacallit that
> >> > > > squeezes out the good stuff and leaves the seeds and skins in the
> >> > > > pot.
> >>Yumaroo!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > They're little apples, 2-3 inches across, so it will take quite a
> >> > > > few to make a pie.  But it could be worth it.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > And then there's just plain eating them.  Or wrapping some up to
> >> > > > store for later.
> >
> >          David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
> > E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org
> >
> >
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