[Ag-eq] Temporary chemical

Mon Aug 24 01:51:09 UTC 2015

Jewel:

I've never heard of it, but that doesn't mean anything.

Sounds like something that would be good for the human animals too!

Nella
Quoting Jewel via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>:

>
> Many years ago, I heard that a drug was being considered that would allow
> farmers to run animals of
> both sexes together, while controlling mating/rutting.
> The idea was that the farmer could inject this drug into a male that would
> render him, temporarily,
> sterile;  however, the effect of the drug would wear off in a given length of
> time.
> Such a drug would be a boon for smallholders where it is, often, difficult to
> have separate grazing
> for males and females.
> Does anyone know if this drug was ever perfected, and if so, has it been
> successful?
>
>          Jewel
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> From: "Nella Foster via Ag-eq" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:27 PM
> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Apple harvest
>
> Zac:
>
> I rarely keep a goat in a pen by itself.  They are herd animals and are
> happier
> in groups.
>
> I do seperate when they are close to kidding or if one is sick or injured.
> Depending on the illness or injury I may put another animal in as a friend.
>
> Most of my pens are set up so the animals can see each other.  Often when I
> seperate one I find the rest of the herd hanging around the outside of that
> pen.
>
> My horse is very good with all the goats and they really like him.  If I
> isolate
> one of the goats in the small pasture I will put the horse in there for
> company.
>
> I have alot fewer animals than you do so it is easier for me to keep track of
> the individuals.
>
> I try and use the pasture as much as possible, less stall cleaning for me!
>
> When the kid goats are very young it is hard for me to tell them apart.  I
> started putting little break away collars on them.  The collars are all
> different so I can tell the kids apart.  As they grow I find little
> differences
> about each kid.
>
> Nella
> Quoting Zach Mason via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>:
>
> > I do have some vision, grew up on what is considered today a small dairy
> > farm, and concur with Nella that goats and sheep are less messy than cows
> > and chickens. On my family dairy farm I fed the calves. In our set up,
> > calves were fed twice per day. I was able to detect calves going off feed
> > sooner than anyone else except my mother.
> >
> > I have another bone to pick with the group, this time about animal welfare.
> > Do those of you who have animals keep them in individual pens or stalls
> when
> > not on pasture? I ask because, for me group housing animals makes it
> > difficult for me to make sure everyone is healthy. The sure way to make
> sure
> > calves are drinking would be to buy a robotic calf feeder, but that costs
> > thousands of dollars. Several "Animal Rights" groups are against individual
> > housing, but most of the people I've met don't have farm experience and
> know
> > what it takes to grow a healthy calf, much less how to do it with impaired
> > eyesight.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Zac
> >
> > P.S. I've started my master's at Mississippi State University. My project
> is
> > the effect of heat stress on dairy calves. I'm game to meet as many NFB and
> > blindness support allies as possible.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Ledet
> > via Ag-eq
> > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 7:42 PM
> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
> > Cc: Danielle Ledet
> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Apple harvest
> >
> > Thanks very much. This is interesting I do enjoy reading your posts. I
> > love little goats. They are pretty cool and friendly. That is how I
> > would do the gardening okay thanks for confirming. Thanks for the
> > insight.
> >
> > On 8/23/15, David Andrews via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > > GMO is genetically modified organism, so GMO-free meat would be from
> > > an animal that had had no genetic manipulation etc .  I don't know if
> > > it also means they haven't eaten any gmo modified grain etc.?
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > At 04:26 PM 8/23/2015, you wrote:
> > >>Could you explain what GMO free meat is?
> > >>
> > >>Zac
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nella Foster
> > >> via
> > >>Ag-eq
> > >>Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:17 PM
> > >>To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
> > >>Cc: nfoster at extremezone.com
> > >>Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Apple harvest
> > >>
> > >>Tracy:
> > >>
> > >>I plan on keeping the young doe goats asuming they are healthy and grow
> > >>well.
> > >>My dose have all kidded easily and are good milkers, so hope their
> > >> daughters
> > >>will be the same.  Two of the dose are getting older so can probably only
> > >>breed them one more time.
> > >>
> > >>I will casterate the young bucks and they will go to someone's table.
> > >> I've
> > >>made contact with a couple of butchers in the area that specialize in
> > >> grass
> > >>fed and GMO free meats.  I plan on following their guidelines so they
> will
> > >>buy the kids I don't want.  This is hard for me, but I cannot keep all of
> > >>them.  I could sell any unwanted doelings as milk goats since they come
> > >> from
> > >>good milking lines.
> > >>
> > >>I will be selling milk; we are allowed to sell raw milk here as long as
> > >> it's
> > >>picked up from the farm.  There are a few regulations you have to meet to
> > >>sell the milk, that is why I'm building the milk barn.  I've met a family
> > >>that live a few miles away that are selling fresh Jersey milk and they
> > >>cannot keep up with the demand.  Unfortunately I'm not allowed to sell
> > >>cheese, only the milk.
> > >>I can sell the goat milk soap since it's not being eaten.
> > >>
> > >>Nella
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Quoting Tracy Carcione via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Nella.
> > >> > Chocolate sounds very nice!
> > >> > What will you do with the kids?  Will your herd get bigger and bigger,
> > >> > or will your neighbors be eating roast kid?
> > >> > Tracy
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nella
> > >> > Foster via Ag-eq
> > >> > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 9:30 PM
> > >> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
> > >> > Cc: nfoster at extremezone.com
> > >> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Apple harvest
> > >> >
> > >> > Tracy:
> > >> >
> > >> > I recently got a dehydrator and so far have only dried some peppers
> > >> > and herbs.
> > >> >
> > >> > The buck goats can get aggressive, but this little guy has been
> > >> > handled since birth and I continue to spend time with him.  He is very
> > >> > friendly and will follow me around like a puppy.  I think he will be
> > >> > o.k. as long as I keep handling him and don't let him get away with
> > >> > bad behavior.  I've met several bucks that are friendly and the people
> > >> > were petting them and spending time with them.  I've seen a couple
> > >> > that were aggressive, but they were just out in a pasture and didn't
> > >> > have
> > >>a lot of human interaction.
> > >> >
> > >> > The worse thing about a buck goat is how stinky they get.  so far
> > >> > Chocolate isn't very smelly because he is still young.  They get more
> > >> > smelly when they reach adulthood.  His name is Chocolate, which fits
> > >> > right into my heard, the girls all have candy names.
> > >> >
> > >> > I purchased Chocolate from a nice Amish family.  All their animals
> > >> > were so healthy and friendly.  He is registered and their herd has
> > >> > been tested for certain diseases, which is what I wanted to find.
> > >> > They even called to make sure he is doing o.k. and didn't get to
> > >> > stressed by the move.  I've kept their contact info so that we can do
> > >>business again.
> > >> >
> > >> > I think they had to call from a neighbors, they don't use phones.
> > >> > When I called I spoke to the neighbor; it was strange, but all worked
> > >> > out.
> > >> >
> > >> > Nella
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Quoting Tracy Carcione via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi Nella.
> > >> > > My apples are Golden Delicious, sweet/tart, the way I like them.
> > >> > > I'd forgotten about drying, and I have a dehydrator.  I'll have to
> > >> > > try
> > >>it.
> > >> > > This morning, I separated the apples into "use today" and "will keep
> > >> > > a
> > >> > bit".
> > >> > > After lunch, applesauce!  And maybe more.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Your barn sounds great! And your buck sounds cute.  Do male goats
> > >> > > get aggressive, when they reach maturity?
> > >> > > Tracy
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > From: Ag-eq [mailto:ag-eq-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nella
> > >> > > Foster via Ag-eq
> > >> > > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 5:00 PM
> > >> > > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List
> > >> > > Cc: nfoster at extremezone.com
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Apple harvest
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Tracy:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > What kind of apples?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'm so jealous, love fresh apples.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Wonder how long until my little trees start bearing fruit?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Do you ever dry them?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'm still getting tomatoes, peppers, squash and cucumbers.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I bought a little buck goat and put out with my doe goats.  He's
> > >> > > kind of young, so don't know if he is old enough to do his job yet!
> > >> > > He is very cute, will grow up to be a handsome boy.  He and 2 of my
> > >> > > dose have genes for spots, so hoping I get some spotted babies.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'm turning my shop building into a milk barn.  The guys are working
> > >> > > on it right now.  There will be a room to store hay, a room for
> > >> > > milking and a room to put the goats when they kid and to keep the
> > >> > > really young kids out of the weather.
> > >> > > It is going to make milking so much easier.  There is a pen on one
> > >> > > side where I will bring the girls, then I can take them into the
> > >> > > milk room to milk and put them out a door on the other side.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I finally have goat proof fencing around the whole pasture, so the
> > >> > > goats and Cruiser can all be together.  Hopefully by next spring I
> > >> > > will have more fences up to divide the pasture so I can rotate the
> > >> > > animals around.  They graze it more even that way.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > What is everyone else up to?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Nella
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Quoting Tracy Carcione via Ag-eq <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > The apple harvest is starting to roll in.  Literally, since I'm
> > >> > > > picking them up off the ground and often finding them by
> > >> > > > accidentally kicking them.  My young retriever is also good at
> > >> > > > finding apples.  He has a soft mouth, and can pick them up without
> > >> > > > a scratch, but I'm trying to teach him not to pick up
> > >> > > > miscellaneous things
> > >> > off the ground.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Yesterday, I took a medium-size bucket and filled it to the top.
> > >> > > > I'll have to sort them this weekend, green or ripe. Then I'll
> > >> > > > start making
> > >> > > applesauce.
> > >> > > > I've also found a pandowdy recipe that sounds yummy.  Applesauce
> > >> > > > is the easiest though, since all I have to do is boil the apples
> > >> > > > 10-15 minutes, then run them through the whatchamacallit that
> > >> > > > squeezes out the good stuff and leaves the seeds and skins in the
> > >> > > > pot.
> > >>Yumaroo!
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > They're little apples, 2-3 inches across, so it will take quite a
> > >> > > > few to make a pie.  But it could be worth it.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > And then there's just plain eating them.  Or wrapping some up to
> > >> > > > store for later.
> > >
> > >          David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
> > > E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org
> > >
> > >
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