[Blind-international-students] introducingmyself andcommentsonyour discussion

Carly Mihalakis carlymih at earthlink.net
Wed Aug 4 17:10:44 UTC 2010


Goood norning, Anmole,,

Say it, brother!
CarAt 08:27 AM 8/4/2010, you wrote:
>Dan, I totally agree with you.
>True the cost of a bill identifier is $99 not $300, however, this is 
>not the point. Even if the cost of a bill identifier was $0 it does 
>not address the issue of why a blind person can not be able to 
>identify their money independently. The arguement of high cost to 
>the US infrastructure  is a age old arguement used throughout 
>American history including pryor to the passage of the Americans 
>with Disabilities ACT. It is the most convenient used by those who 
>do not want to see progress, however, I am in know way refering to 
>NFB leaders as people who do not want to see progress. NFB 
>leadership has good intentions, but I sometimes question their 
>priorities. The cost of of making the currency excessable is far 
>cheaper then a car that blind people can drive and for me as a blind 
>person it is far more important to be able to manage independently 
>then drive independently.
>Anmol
>I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. 
>Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, 
>like a breeze among flowers.
>Hellen Keller
>
>
>--- On Wed, 8/4/10, Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] introducingmyself 
> andcommentsonyour discussion
> > To: "'Blind International Students Mailing List'" 
> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 10:07 AM
> > The cost to the USA infrastructure of
> > having a war in Iraq is also bloody
> > prohibitive, doesn't seem to stop our leaders from doing
> > so.
> > It's perhaps a question of priorities.
> >
> > Dan W.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Guido
> > Corona
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:55 AM
> > To: 'Blind International Students Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> > introducingmyself
> > andcommentsonyour discussion
> >
> > Dan, not quite sure if this has been mentioned, but the
> > current cost of a
> > money identifier is $99, not $300 as suggested.  ...
> > See below.
> >
> > As for changing to a multi-size bill system,  it
> > simply will not happen.
> > The cost to the USA infrastructure would be prohibitive if
> > the rationale
> > remains purely an accessibility standpoint, for which there
> > is a
> > multiplicity of workarounds/alternatives.
> >
> > * * * *
> >
> > >From the Braille Monitor for December 2009 at:
> > http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm09/bm0911/bm091118.htm
> >
> > New Money Identifier Available:
> > We received the following press release describing a new
> > money identifier
> > now available in the United States. Here, in part, is the
> > text of this
> > announcement:
> >
> > Orbit Research has announced the introduction of the iBill,
> > the world's
> > first affordable talking banknote identifier for the blind
> > and
> > vision-impaired.
> > Priced at $99, the 1.5 ounce pager-sized iBill represents a
> > breakthrough in
> > enabling blind and vision impaired people to achieve
> > independence in the
> > everyday
> > necessity of using paper currency. At about a third of the
> > cost of existing
> > devices, the iBill offers unrivaled features, ease of use,
> > and accuracy of
> > identification.
> >
> > The iBill is an exceptionally convenient and affordable
> > solution that blind
> > and vision-impaired people can use. Measuring just 3 inches
> > by 1.6 inches by
> > 0.7 inches, the ultra-slim and compact key-fob design
> > provides the ultimate
> > in convenience, allowing it to be carried unobtrusively in
> > a pocket or
> > purse,
> > clipped to a belt, or attached to a keychain or lanyard.
> > Among the features
> > that set it apart from other such devices are its high
> > accuracy (better than
> > 99.9 percent) and the near-instantaneous speed (less than
> > one second in most
> > cases) with which it identifies banknotes.
> >
> > The iBill provides the simplest, fastest, and most accurate
> > means to
> > identify U.S. banknotes. Its unique ergonomic design
> > permits easy and
> > intuitive use
> > without training or practice. When a banknote is inserted
> > into the device,
> > its denomination is identified at the press of a button.
> > Based on the user's
> > preference, the denomination is announced by a clear and
> > natural voice or by
> > tone or vibration for privacy. The unit identifies all U.S.
> > banknotes in
> > circulation
> > and recognizes them in any orientation. Banknotes in poor
> > physical condition
> > are indicated as unidentifiable and are not misread. The
> > unit is also
> > upgradeable
> > to recognize new banknote designs.
> >
> > The iBill achieves all of this while operating on a single,
> > commonly
> > available AAA battery, which lasts for over a year with
> > typical use. Its
> > durable construction
> > and sealed design ensure trouble-free use. The unit is
> > backed by a one-year
> > warranty from Orbit Research, and toll-free customer
> > support is available.
> >
> > For further information contact Orbit Research, 3422 Old
> > Capitol Trail,
> > Suite 585, Wilmington, DE 19808; (888) 606-7248;
> > <http://www.orbitresearch.com>.
> >
> > Guido D. Corona
> > Email: guidoc at austin.rr.com
> > Home office: (512) 996-9187
> > Mobile: (512) 466-1322
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Dan
> > Weiner
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:17 AM
> > To: 'Blind International Students Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] introducing
> > myself
> > andcommentsonyour discussion
> >
> > Wait, the NFB, our NFB which claims that any adaptation to
> > money would cause
> > the sighted to think less of our ability to handle money,
> > this NFB now wants
> > to study tactile identification for money?
> > Why do that, blindness is reduced, with proper training and
> > tecnique, to the
> > level of a nuisance.
> > Just because we have to ask people what our money is and
> > someone could give
> > us a load of bull shit  and tell us it's a five when
> > it's a ten, doesn't
> > mean we should do anything about it.
> > The proceeding was sarcasm for those who didn't
> > guess--smile.
> >
> > Most of the countries I have visited  have paper money
> > of different sizes
> > and not too many people in these countries use our folding
> > method of money
> > identifying.
> > The Japanese actually told me bluntly it sounded
> > weird--smile.
> >
> > A money identifyer, to quote our friend Carlie, is a bunch
> > of crap, or
> > something like that.
> > Many aren't reliable and they cost money.
> > At $300.00 for the Note Teller, that means a person getting
> > six hundred
> > dollars social security wouldn't be able to eat that
> > month.
> > Now, granted there are other models, but I haven't tried
> > them yet.
> >
> > Speaking of Carlie, I sincerely apologize for not being in
> > touch, I don't
> > know what I did with your Email in which you sent me
> > contact info, so please
> > write me again at:
> >
> > dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
> >
> >
> > I think our Federation is somewhat selective on the
> > projects we take on.
> > If we don't want to take it on, then our leaders say it's
> > not necessary
> > rather than  saying we just don't have the time or
> > inclination to deal with
> > it.
> > I'm pretty sick of the organized blind movement as far as
> > things like that
> > are concerned, both ACB and NFB.
> >
> > Cordially,
> >
> > Dan W.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of
> > Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:30 AM
> > To: Blind International Students Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] introducing
> > myself
> > andcommentsonyour discussion
> >
> > Hi Anmol, and others
> > I just read many of the emails about the blind
> > international division and
> > the issue about money identifier. I would like to say this
> > much about money.
> > The NFB has been working for the last two years to get some
> > kind of tactile
> > identification system on the paper bills. Some of us who
> > are totally blind
> > are participating in a study. We may have the results by
> > next year.
> > The second issue some have brought up is being independent.
> > There is a
> > wonderful speech by Dr. Jernigan, "The Nature of
> > Independence" It is
> > available on the NFB website. I suggest that you read it.
> > Asking for help is
> > not new. Even sighted people ask for it.
> > I will say that a division will be good. I think that
> > committee meetings
> > have happened enough.
> >
> >
> > Yasmin Reyazuddin
> > Aging & Disability services
> > Montgomery County Government
> > Department of Health & human Services
> > 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
> > Rockville MD 20850
> > 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> > 240-777-1556 (personal)
> > 240-777-1495 (fax)
> > office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
> > Languages English, Hindi, Urdu, Braille
> >
> >
> > This message may contain protected health information or
> > other information
> > that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the
> > intended recipient,
> > please contact the sender by return mail and destroy any
> > copies of this
> > material.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf Of Anmol
> > Bhatia
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:30 PM
> > To: Blind International Students Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] introducing
> > myself andcommentson
> > your discussion
> >
> > Hello Reyazuddin,,
> > The sad reality is that the same is true for the schools
> > for the blind in
> > the United States. The Arkansas School for the Blind was
> > not the same when I
> > graduated from there as it was when I started there. I
> > often blind people
> > that we are our own worst enemies. It is a pleg which has
> > hit blind
> > community, blind schools, blind organizations and
> > professnals serving the
> > blind community and we need a quick cure! lol
> > However, our generation "our generation and beyound" can
> > not let the same
> > happen when we come in leadership positions. I am also from
> > India and always
> > like to meet other blind people from India.
> > Anmol
> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me
> > sad. Perhaps
> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
> > vague, like a breeze
> > among flowers.
> > Hellen Keller
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 8/3/10, Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Reyazuddin, Yasmin <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> > introducing myself and
> > commentson your discussion
> > > To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
> > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 3:10 PM
> > > Hi Jan,
> > > I like your idea. We all have to think about what is
> > > important. For the group. I have not shared but here
> > it is.
> > >
> > > Last November I went to India, and visited my old
> > school.
> > > This used to be a very good school when I went there.
> > We had
> > > blind teachers and some sighted teachers. There were
> > blind
> > > people working in different jobs.
> > > I found out that the school has gone down hill,
> > meaning
> > > there is no hope for the students. The school
> > administration
> > > does not serve the blind community. They serve their
> > own
> > > pockets. They have very few real teachers and the rest
> > are
> > > administration pets.
> > > When I went there, the security guard told me that I
> > was
> > > not welcome. The school was closed and no staff was
> > there. I
> > > persisted and went in. I met some of my old teachers
> > who
> > > gave me the bad news. The school administration and
> > the
> > > teachers are fighting against each other. There are
> > human
> > > rights violations of all levels.
> > > Blind graduates of the school are no longer able to go
> > to
> > > college and they can not get jobs.
> > > Students at the school are not getting any assistance
> > or
> > > education. If you have a will you may get through but
> > it is
> > > very difficult.
> > >
> > > I am sure that many others will have similar stories.
> >
> > > Right now I am mentoring a young blind man who lives
> > in
> > > India by email.
> > > I am sorry if this is not the right forum for this
> > > discussion.
> > >
> > > Yasmin Reyazuddin
> > > Aging & Disability services
> > > Montgomery County Government
> > > Department of Health & human Services
> > > 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
> > > Rockville MD 20850
> > > 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> > > 240-777-1556 (personal)
> > > 240-777-1495 (fax)
> > > office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
> > > Languages English, Hindi, Urdu, Braille
> > >
> > >
> > > This message may contain protected health information
> > or
> > > other information that is confidential or privileged.
> > If you
> > > are not the intended recipient, please contact the
> > sender by
> > > return mail and destroy any copies of this material.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > > On Behalf Of jan wright
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:40 PM
> > > To: Blind International Students Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> > introducing
> > > myself and commentson your discussion
> > >
> > >
> > >   Hi Jim, Yasmin and Anmol,
> > >
> > > Anmol, I will ask:
> > > What part of the Nfb philosophy do you find does not
> > fit
> > > into the
> > > category of "positive."
> > > In short, which part do you have a difficult time
> > > supporting?
> > > We all -- well most of us, have certain things that we
> > are
> > > passionate
> > > about within the NFB and some things that we are not
> > as
> > > passionate about.
> > > Some of us are passionate about braille! Others are
> > > passionate about
> > > independent travel. Others are passionate about the
> > "image
> > > of the
> > > blind in public."
> > > I must admit:
> > > There are parts of the philosophy that I support
> > > whole-heartedly.
> > > For example: I do believe  that everyone should have
> > a
> > > chance to learn
> > > braille as a viable way of communicating.
> > > I believe that blind people should be taught by blind
> > > people.
> > > But, (one example of my divergence)  I did hear that
> > > in the philosophy
> > > that the NFB is skeptical (and does not care) to work
> > with
> > > other
> > > organizations of disabled people.
> > > They say that if they work with other disabled
> > people's
> > > organizations,
> > > blind people get  put on the backburner.
> > > I understand this skepticism. But, I would encourage
> > us to
> > > still try
> > > to work with other organizations - yet, have our goal
> > > firmly planted
> > > in our mind.
> > > So, you might say that I "disagree," with that portion
> > of
> > > the philosophy.
> > > But, for me:
> > > I am in the nfb because I want to help blind people
> > achieve
> > > their
> > > highest  potential.
> > > I want to show us (I am not so worried about that
> > fickle
> > > sighted
> > > public) that We can live the life that we want.
> > > We can be parents.
> > > We can be professionals.
> > > We can go on trips independently.
> > > We can enjoy activities such as sports, games, playing
> > an
> > > instrument,
> > > picnics, etc.
> > > We can worship as we choose.
> > > We can go to college.
> > > We can have a career.
> > > We can live fulfilling lives full of all of the
> > events
> > > that  are
> > > present in the lives of the sighted.
> > > That is why I am here.
> > >
> > > And, maybe that is what we can take to other
> > countries.
> > > Thoughts?????
> > >
> > > There are organizations in other countries.
> > > Does the world Blind Union have a listing of these
> > > organizations in
> > > each country?
> > > I have found some, but not many.
> > > I thought that one thing that the World Blind Union
> > can do
> > > is to
> > > provide an international directory of organizations
> > and
> > > services for
> > > the blind.
> > > It would also be nice if they could help with an
> > internet
> > > site and
> > > a bit of email.
> > > Yes, I have seen the International Library Service
> > provide
> > > a small
> > > list, but it is out of date, I am positive.
> > >
> > > Blind corps, well, I will have to google this.
> > > Do they only go to turkey?????
> > >
> > > I am sorry to hear about Robert Leslie Newman.
> > > I  always enjoyed the thought provoker and hope that
> > > someday, a writer
> > > takes it on.
> > > Jan
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/3/10, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hello James,
> > > > First and for most welcome to the list.
> > > > I like Hina ecco the value that people like you
> > and
> > > Jan bring to
> > > > international students and for blind individuals
> > in
> > > under developed
> > > > countries.
> > > > During the Inter Cultural Exchange Committee
> > meeting,
> > > Buna Dahal, one of the
> > > > co-founders of Blind Core did a presentation on
> > Blind
> > > Cor and as I mentioned
> > > > to the group  sometime ago on the discussion
> > that
> > > maybe this can be one of
> > > > our adopted projects.
> > > > I actually met the young lady from Japan whom you
> > were
> > > refering to at the
> > > > Travel and Tureism chapter meeting. To be quite
> > > honest, she provided me with
> > > > her contact information and I accidently deleted
> > it so
> > > if it would be
> > > > possible for you to get her contact information
> > and
> > > email me off list I
> > > > would really appreciate it.
> > > > This brings up another idea! Maybe we could
> > advertise
> > > with the Travel and
> > > > Tureism group and send out a flyer on their list
> > > serve. I am pretty sure
> > > > there would be members in this group who would
> > love to
> > > connect with
> > > > international students and possibley do some
> > > international development
> > > > project.
> > > > I am glad you brought the point about starting a
> > > special interest
> > > > international division within NFB. I think we
> > would
> > > have more supporters
> > > > then not. As you mentioned that most people
> > would
> > > enthusiastically support
> > > > us and this is true and these people would also
> > bring
> > > our group value. My
> > > > vision is that our group  would consist of
> > > international students, people
> > > > who care deeply about international students such
> > as
> > > yourself and Jan and
> > > > Americans who are interested in travel abroad
> > eather
> > > for studies or just
> > > > travel or are interested in making international
> > > friends. I think we would
> > > > also have alot of second generation US citizens
> > > meaning those who are
> > > > naturalized  US citizens. I met a person who
> > was a
> > > naturalized  US citizen
> > > > but said he will always be international in
> > heart.
> > > > In addition, we would have supportors who may
> > not
> > > Necessarily  be active
> > > > with our group,  but would be supportors  of
> > our
> > > cause. As you mentioned,
> > > > there will certainly be a few who would be
> > hostile to
> > > our cause and
> > > > existence but these will be few. One thing I
> > have
> > > learned in more then 20
> > > > years of living in the United States is that
> > people
> > > who are hostile towards
> > > > international students and people who are not
> > lucky
> > > enough to be US citizens
> > > > are usually the same people who hold negative
> > attitude
> > > towards many things
> > > > including blindness and are usually the people
> > who are
> > > self serving meaning
> > > > only think about what is best for them. I have
> > learned
> > > through experience
> > > > that it is best just to ignore these people.
> > > > As you mentioned the benefit a organized special
> > > interest  group for us is
> > > > that it would allow us to have a leadership
> > structure,
> > > allow us to open up a
> > > > bank account and allow us to rais funds.
> > > > I like the idea of writing up a one page add and
> > > distribute it to various
> > > > groups and anywhere else we may be able to
> > recruit. My
> > > suggestion is that we
> > > > have a conference call maybe as soon  as this
> > > weekend to discuss the content
> > > > of the add and brainstorm of places where we
> > could
> > > advertise. Any thoughts?
> > > > Jim you brought up another advantage of our group
> > and
> > > this list. Amazing how
> > > > ideas pop up in one's mind! When you mentioned
> > that
> > > you were Hina's pen-pal,
> > > > it occured to me that this group would be
> > excellent
> > > place to build pen-pal
> > > > relationships with blind individuals in other
> > > countries. To be quite frank a
> > > > teacher at the Arkansas School for the Blind
> > > encouraged me to find a pen-pal
> > > > but I was simply just to lazy to do it. This were
> > the
> > > days of writing and
> > > > mailing the letter before the days of email and
> > > internet. Amazing how
> > > > technology has changed even with communicating
> > with
> > > pen-pal!
> > > > Anyways, Jim welcome to the list and please give
> > > Robbert Lesliy Newman our
> > > > best regard and wish him speady  recovery.
> > > >
> > > > sincerely,
> > > > Anmol
> > > >
> > > > I seldom think about my limitations, and they
> > never
> > > make me sad. Perhaps
> > > > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but
> > it is
> > > vague, like a breeze
> > > > among flowers.
> > > > Hellen Keller
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 8/2/10, James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A.
> > N6YR
> > > <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> From: James H. "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> > > >> Subject: [Blind-international-students]
> > > introducing myself and comments on
> > > >> your discussion
> > > >> To: "Blind International Students Mailing
> > List"
> > > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 7:53 PM
> > > >> Hello members of the Blind
> > > >> Internationals nfb list;
> > > >> I am Jim Canaday.  I am the president of
> > the
> > > Jayhawk
> > > >> chapter of the NFB of kansas, here in
> > Lawrence
> > > (where Kansas
> > > >> University is located).  I am also active
> > with
> > > the
> > > >> writers division of NFB.
> > > >> I'll give more of an introduction later down
> > this
> > > e-mail.
> > > >> > I have been delighted that nfb
> > supported
> > > this effort
> > > >> by providing the list for internationals.
> > I
> > > care
> > > >> deeply about blind international students who
> > are
> > > here in
> > > >> the U.S.  I am also quite concerned about
> > > conditions
> > > >> for most blind people in the world.  I know
> > very
> > > well
> > > >> in my heart that blind people have it much
> > better
> > > here than
> > > >> in most of the world and that means that we
> > have a
> > > serious
> > > >> responsibility.
> > > >>
> > > >> Robert Leslie Newman, president of the
> > writers
> > > division and
> > > >> active member of Blind Corps is currently in
> > the
> > > hospital,
> > > >> he lives in nebraska.  he cares deeply and
> > works
> > > >> diligently to bring the nfb philosophy of
> > > orientation and
> > > >> mobility to other countries through blind
> > corps;
> > > they
> > > >> go teach the teachers primarily.  that
> > way
> > > other
> > > >> countries can train their own blind people.
> > > >> also from nebraska is Fetos Floyd who grew
> > to
> > > adulthood in
> > > >> Turkey.  she is I believe the head of the
> > > nebraska
> > > >> center for the blind where training takes
> > place
> > > and she
> > > >> participates in blind corps too.
> > > >> robert and fetos and several others recently
> > > returned from
> > > >> their second trip to turkey.  it seems that
> > the
> > > program
> > > >> in turkey is doing very well.  I believe
> > that all
> > > of
> > > >> the members of Blind Corps are members of
> > NFB.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have communicated with officers of NABS
> > about
> > > this group
> > > >> recently, and several months ago.  there is
> > an
> > > >> international grad student here in my chapter
> > and
> > > I have
> > > >> told her of this list.  I cannot tell you
> > why she
> > > is
> > > >> hesitant to join.
> > > >>
> > > >> it's really great to see the activity on this
> > list
> > > increase
> > > >> so much!   blind people often experience
> > > >> isolation.  I think that may often be worse
> > for
> > > blind
> > > >> international students who come here to
> > study.
> > > >>
> > > >> if I can give a little advice,
> > > >> I believe that international students and
> > > internationals in
> > > >> the U.S. should actually have their own
> > division
> > > in
> > > >> NFB.  you are at the beginning of this
> > process.
> > > >> or you are at the beginning of becoming a
> > special
> > > interest
> > > >> group.  as a division you will get more
> > attention
> > > and
> > > >> have more impact on others.  it takes time
> > to
> > > build a
> > > >> group, organize and form a division.  and
> > your
> > > >> experience is actually typical.  yes some
> > people
> > > may be
> > > >> put off by your being internationals, but
> > most
> > > will
> > > >> not.  some people  will be put off by the
> > fact
> > > >> that I am from kansas, too.
> > > >>
> > > >> Divisions start from the ground up most
> > often.
> > > you
> > > >> have taken steps  already like other groups
> > did:
> > > >> forming communication within yourselves;
> > defining
> > > your
> > > >> identity and your interests; and forming
> > goals.
> > > I hope
> > > >> you might find in your hearts some patience
> > with
> > > the rest of
> > > >> us in the federation, as we are all human
> > too.
> > > some of
> > > >> us will enthusiastically work with
> > internationals,
> > > many will
> > > >> be shy or busy with other interests, and a
> > few
> > > will be truly
> > > >> hostile.  please don't let the few bad
> > people put
> > > you
> > > >> off.
> > > >>
> > > >> more advice.
> > > >> maybe you all have done this but I have not
> > seen
> > > it.
> > > >> you are now in the stage of getting
> > interested
> > > people
> > > >> together for your organization.  a very
> > simple
> > > thing
> > > >> you can do in this is to write a direct one
> > page
> > > >> statement.  your organization's statement
> > should
> > > give
> > > >> your tentative name, your e-mail list info
> > for
> > > subscribing,
> > > >> who you are, what your interests are, and who
> > you
> > > are
> > > >> looking for as new members.  and any other
> > > contact
> > > >> information that would be useful.  your
> > statement
> > > then
> > > >> can be easily posted to groups, and people
> > can
> > > forward it
> > > >> along.  you will have a single
> > presentation
> > > that
> > > >> you all have agreed on that represents
> > you.
> > > your
> > > >> statement also can go into the Braille
> > Monitor.
> > > >>
> > > >> to get this statement together, you need to
> > first
> > > decide
> > > >> what your goals and interests are.  think of
> > who
> > > you
> > > >> are looking for as potential members.  and,
> > you
> > > can
> > > >> consider how to put your group's
> > presentation
> > > together from
> > > >> those decisions.  I would not presume to
> > suggest
> > > to you
> > > >> what these should be.  but if you have a
> > unified
> > > >> message, and one that is very easily
> > distributed,
> > > it is very
> > > >> powerful.  there are people you want in
> > your
> > > group who
> > > >> may have to hear about it two or more times
> > before
> > > they
> > > >> reach out to you.
> > > >>
> > > >> I believe strongly in NFB, and I also know
> > that
> > > >> internationals are wonderful people who also
> > teach
> > > the rest
> > > >> of us much.  so I very strongly hope that
> > you
> > > will work
> > > >> within NFB.  NFB has great resources you
> > will
> > > find
> > > >> helpful.  it also has a wonderful network
> > of
> > > >> people.  NFB will be much better with you in
> > it.
> > > >>
> > > >> though you do not have a formal organization
> > now,
> > > it would
> > > >> be worth investigating forming one.  that
> > way you
> > > can
> > > >> designate officers and have a bank
> > account.
> > > also,
> > > >> others will see you are serious by taking
> > these
> > > >> steps.   again, many other divisions and
> > > >> special interest groups have done the same
> > > thing.  and
> > > >> most started with very little if any push or
> > > support from
> > > >> NFB national leadership.  there are at least
> > two
> > > other
> > > >> nfb groups I could participate with, but I do
> > not
> > > have the
> > > >> time or energy to join in with them.
> > > >>
> > > >> if you look at the writers division website
> > > >> www.nfb-writers-division.org
> > > >> you will see that we have a very good
> > website.
> > > this
> > > >> is also provided by the national
> > organization.
> > > but
> > > >> they did not provide such things for the
> > writers
> > > division
> > > >> until it was organized and functioning.
> > > >>
> > > >> enough advice?
> > > >>
> > > >> *I am here because of Hina.  five years and
> > a
> > > month
> > > >> ago, I wrote to her in Pakistan, and I was
> > > incredibly
> > > >> fortunate to be her pen pal.  she is a dear
> > > friend of
> > > >> mine.
> > > >>
> > > >> the M.A. after my name is in clinical
> > psychology,
> > > and I
> > > >> completed the practicum as a student
> > > >> therapist.   I earned the degree at
> > kansas
> > > >> university in 1991, with no help from kansas
> > > >> university.  K.U. has a sad long history of
> > not
> > > >> properly providing services for blind
> > students.
> > > >>
> > > >> I grew up in rural central california so I
> > am
> > > curious about
> > > >> where Miso lives.  I was completely blind
> > from
> > > age 13,
> > > >> and partial before that.  my bachelor's
> > degree is
> > > from
> > > >> the university of california at davis.
> > > >>
> > > >> I am married and have no children.
> > > >>
> > > >> I hope I can help this group to grow and
> > > flourish.
> > > >>
> > > >> jc
> > > >>
> > > >> At 04:48 PM 8/2/2010, you wrote:
> > > >> > Hello,
> > > >> > Jan if you will recall one of the
> > co-founders
> > > of Blind
> > > >> Core was from Turkey and is I believe the
> > director
> > > of VR in
> > > >> Nebraska. However, do not quote me on this. I
> > do
> > > not agree
> > > >> about bringing NFB philosophy to my country
> > but a
> > > philosophy
> > > >> which promotes possitive attitude about
> > blindness
> > > and a can
> > > >> do attitude. Just my two sense .
> > > >> > Anmol
> > > >> > I seldom think about my limitations, and
> > they
> > > never
> > > >> make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch
> > of
> > > yearning at
> > > >> times; but it is vague, like a breeze among
> > > flowers.
> > > >> > Hellen Keller
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> > > >> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > From: Reyazuddin, Yasmin 
> <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > > >> > > Subject: Re:
> > > [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> [Blind-international-students introduction
> > > >> > > To: "Blind International Students
> > > Mailing List"
> > > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 3:42
> > PM
> > > >> > > Hi Hena and all
> > > >> > > Once again, we need to communicate
> > with
> > > Ron Brown
> > > >> and see
> > > >> > > if he will support us. Also if some
> > of
> > > you will
> > > >> remember
> > > >> > > there was a group of blind
> > > federationists who
> > > >> went to Turkey
> > > >> > > to teach the blind professionals
> > there.
> > > May be we
> > > >> need to
> > > >> > > talk with Robert Leslie Newman
> > from
> > > Nebraska who
> > > >> did the
> > > >> > > program.
> > > >> > > The NFB has send out people to
> > other
> > > countries
> > > >> for teaching
> > > >> > > federation philosophy.
> > > >> > > We who get trained here need to go
> > back
> > > to our
> > > >> home country
> > > >> > > and take the federation to people
> > > there.
> > > >> > > Yasmin Reyazuddin
> > > >> > > Aging & Disability services
> > > >> > > Montgomery County Government
> > > >> > > Department of Health & human
> > > Services
> > > >> > > 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
> > > >> > > Rockville MD 20850
> > > >> > > 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> > > >> > > 240-777-1556 (personal)
> > > >> > > 240-777-1495 (fax)
> > > >> > > office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
> > > >> > > Languages English, Hindi, Urdu,
> > Braille
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > This message may contain protected
> > > health
> > > >> information or
> > > >> > > other information that is
> > confidential
> > > or
> > > >> privileged. If you
> > > >> > > are not the intended recipient,
> > please
> > > contact
> > > >> the sender by
> > > >> > > return mail and destroy any copies
> > of
> > > this
> > > >> material.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Thank you.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > > >> > > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > > >> > > On Behalf Of hina altaf
> > > >> > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 4:18
> > PM
> > > >> > > To: Blind International Students
> > Mailing
> > > List
> > > >> > > Subject: Re:
> > > [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > >
> > > [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > hi jan,
> > > >> > >  yes that is why i started this
> > list
> > > and had
> > > >> philip help me
> > > >> > > as co
> > > >> > > founder. buna is on the list but
> > she
> > > never said
> > > >> anything.
> > > >> > > she is a
> > > >> > > wonderful person but i think if
> > she
> > > wanted to do
> > > >> anything
> > > >> > > for this
> > > >> > > list or international students,
> > she
> > > would have
> > > >> said
> > > >> > > something by now
> > > >> > > or before. but i am not sure how
> > to
> > > respond to
> > > >> this since
> > > >> > > she never
> > > >> > > spoke much in the list and i know
> > she
> > > was in the
> > > >> list since
> > > >> > > she did
> > > >> > > communicate with me long time ago.
> > > >> > > so that is my question, does nfb
> > > officials want
> > > >> to get
> > > >> > > involve with
> > > >> > > helping internationals and people
> > in
> > > under
> > > >> developed
> > > >> > > countries? that
> > > >> > > is something i can not answer and
> > most
> > > nfb
> > > >> officials are
> > > >> > > quiet on this
> > > >> > > list and some don't even respond.
> > > >> > > hina.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On 8/2/10, Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> > > >> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > Hi Jan,
> > > >> > > > Good observation.
> > > >> > > > Most of the time the
> > international
> > > people
> > > >> are the
> > > >> > > underserved as they are
> > > >> > > > (we are) not included in or
> > > promoted other
> > > >> than being
> > > >> > > a member.
> > > >> > > > If we move forward and become
> > > leaders other
> > > >> (majority)
> > > >> > > do not like it. I
> > > >> > > > know it from my personal
> > > experience.
> > > >> > > > I have to thank the
> > scholarship
> > > committee
> > > >> this year as
> > > >> > > there were many
> > > >> > > > international students who won
> > the
> > > >> scholarships. If we
> > > >> > > could have the
> > > >> > > > students participate and
> > become
> > > leaders in
> > > >> their own
> > > >> > > communities we will not
> > > >> > > > be underserved or
> > impoverished.
> > > >> > > > Yasmin Reyazuddin
> > > >> > > > Aging & Disability
> > services
> > > >> > > > Montgomery County Government
> > > >> > > > Department of Health &
> > human
> > > Services
> > > >> > > > 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd
> > floor)
> > > >> > > > Rockville MD 20850
> > > >> > > > 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> > > >> > > > 240-777-1556 (personal)
> > > >> > > > 240-777-1495 (fax)
> > > >> > > > office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
> > > >> > > > Languages English, Hindi,
> > Urdu,
> > > Braille
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > This message may contain
> > protected
> > > health
> > > >> information
> > > >> > > or other information
> > > >> > > > that is confidential or
> > privileged.
> > > If you
> > > >> are not the
> > > >> > > intended recipient,
> > > >> > > > please contact the sender by
> > return
> > > mail and
> > > >> destroy
> > > >> > > any copies of this
> > > >> > > > material.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Thank you.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > > >> > > > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > > >> > > On Behalf Of jan
> > > >> > > > wright
> > > >> > > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010
> > 3:52
> > > PM
> > > >> > > > To: Blind International
> > Students
> > > Mailing
> > > >> List
> > > >> > > > Subject: Re:
> > > [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > > >
> > > [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Hi Yasmin,
> > > >> > > > That is an interesting
> > thought.
> > > >> > > > I know Ron and I am sure that
> > he
> > > would be
> > > >> open to the
> > > >> > > idea.
> > > >> > > > My only question is:
> > > >> > > > Since "underserved,"   has
> > a
> > > >> broader
> > > >> > > application than "international
> > > >> > > > students," do you think that
> > the
> > > >> international
> > > >> > > community will be ....
> > > >> > > > .... last to receive support?
> > > >> > > > Just a question.
> > > >> > > > Honestly, I am not certain,
> > but it
> > > doesn't
> > > >> seem that
> > > >> > > this group is
> > > >> > > > getting much notice in the
> > NFB, as
> > > it is.
> > > >> > > > Anmol had some great ideas!
> > > >> > > > We should not let them pass
> > as
> > > ideas only.
> > > >> > > > Jan
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On 8/2/10, hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >> what is the goal of that
> > group
> > > yasmin?
> > > >> we can do
> > > >> > > it but i would like
> > > >> > > >> to know more about that
> > group
> > > first. and
> > > >> then you
> > > >> > > can send the email.
> > > >> > > >> how is it going to help us
> > in
> > > starting a
> > > >> project
> > > >> > > to help people in
> > > >> > > >> under developed
> > countries?
> > > thanks.
> > > >> hina.
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> On 8/2/10, Reyazuddin,
> > Yasmin
> > > >> > > >> <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> > > >> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>> Hi Hena, and all:
> > > >> > > >>> I will suggest that
> > we
> > > consider
> > > >> combining two
> > > >> > > groups into one and getting
> > > >> > > >>> what we need. The
> > cultural
> > > exchange
> > > >> group
> > > >> > > should join forces with the
> > > >> > > >>> committee to empower
> > > underserved
> > > >> population.
> > > >> > > >>> The goals are similar
> > and
> > > then we
> > > >> will also
> > > >> > > have the support of the
> > > >> > > >>> national
> > > >> > > >>> office. I can start
> > the
> > > process by
> > > >> sending an
> > > >> > > email to Ron Brown who is
> > > >> > > >>> the
> > > >> > > >>> president of Indiana.
> > > >> > > >>> We have a meeting
> > every
> > > year and can
> > > >> do more
> > > >> > > that way.
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> Yasmin Reyazuddin
> > > >> > > >>> Aging &
> > Disability
> > > services
> > > >> > > >>> Montgomery County
> > > Government
> > > >> > > >>> Department of Health
> > &
> > > human
> > > >> Services
> > > >> > > >>> 401 Hungerford Drive
> > (3rd
> > > floor)
> > > >> > > >>> Rockville MD 20850
> > > >> > > >>> 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> > > >> > > >>> 240-777-1556
> > (personal)
> > > >> > > >>> 240-777-1495 (fax)
> > > >> > > >>> office hours 8:30 am
> > 5:00
> > > pm
> > > >> > > >>> Languages English,
> > Hindi,
> > > Urdu,
> > > >> Braille
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> This message may
> > contain
> > > protected
> > > >> health
> > > >> > > information or other
> > > >> > > >>> information
> > > >> > > >>> that is confidential
> > or
> > > privileged.
> > > >> If you are
> > > >> > > not the intended
> > > >> > > >>> recipient,
> > > >> > > >>> please contact the
> > sender
> > > by return
> > > >> mail and
> > > >> > > destroy any copies of this
> > > >> > > >>> material.
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> Thank you.
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> -----Original
> > Message-----
> > > >> > > >>> From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > > >> > > >>> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > > >> > > On Behalf Of
> > > >> > > >>> hina
> > > >> > > >>> altaf
> > > >> > > >>> Sent: Monday, August
> > 02,
> > > 2010 1:38
> > > >> PM
> > > >> > > >>> To: Blind
> > International
> > > Students
> > > >> Mailing List
> > > >> > > >>> Subject: Re:
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > >
> > [Blind-international-students][Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> hi anmol,
> > > >> > > >>>  i agree with you
> > and
> > > that's
> > > >> what we
> > > >> > > tried last year without much
> > > >> > > >>> success. i think on
> > this
> > > issue i
> > > >> need to talk
> > > >> > > to you either on the
> > > >> > > >>> phone or online. there
> > are
> > > a lot of
> > > >> issues and
> > > >> > > things that i don't
> > > >> > > >>> feel comfortable
> > discussing
> > > on nfb
> > > >> mailing
> > > >> > > list due to some reasons
> > > >> > > >>> which i think we can
> > talk
> > > off list.
> > > >> > > >>> hina.
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> On 8/2/10, Anmol
> > Bhatia
> > > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>> Hello Jan and
> > Hina,
> > > >> > > >>>> Due to reasons
> > which I
> > > do not
> > > >> want to
> > > >> > > mention on the list I do not think
> > > >> > > >>>> our
> > > >> > > >>>> list would get
> > much
> > > >> advertisement from the
> > > >> > > NFB officials. So this means
> > > >> > > >>>> that
> > > >> > > >>>> more then likely
> > we
> > > will have to
> > > >> self
> > > >> > > advertise. Personally I have been
> > > >> > > >>>> advertising
> > through
> > > word of
> > > >> mouth telling
> > > >> > > my friends or anyone who may
> > > >> > > >>>> be
> > > >> > > >>>> interested in
> > joining
> > > or is
> > > >> interested in
> > > >> > > international issues. Also
> > > >> > > >>>> maybe
> > > >> > > >>>> someone can write
> > a
> > > article for
> > > >> Mobility
> > > >> > > International USA (MIUSA)
> > > >> > > >>>> www.miusa.org
> > > >> > > >>>> and it would be
> > > published on
> > > >> their
> > > >> > > webcite. It is a non-profit
> > > >> > > >>>> organization
> > > >> > > >>>> which works on
> > > international
> > > >> development
> > > >> > > for people with disabilities in
> > > >> > > >>>> other countries
> > and
> > > also
> > > >> promotes
> > > >> > > international travel for
> > individuals
> > > >> > > >>>> with
> > > >> > > >>>> disabilities.
> > Some
> > > things they
> > > >> do is to
> > > >> > > promote study abroad
> > > >> > > >>>> opportunities
> > > >> > > >>>> for students with
> > > disabilities
> > > >> and
> > > >> > > leadership trainings for
> > individuals
> > > >> > > >>>> with
> > > >> > > >>>> disabilities. I
> > would
> > > encourage
> > > >> you to
> > > >> > > visit their webcite and maybe
> > > >> > > >>>> sign
> > > >> > > >>>> up
> > > >> > > >>>> for their news
> > letter.
> > > >> > > >>>> Also we may want
> > to
> > > consider
> > > >> sending a
> > > >> > > blerb to various list serves that
> > > >> > > >>>> we
> > > >> > > >>>> are on to let
> > people
> > > know that
> > > >> there is a
> > > >> > > list serve for international
> > > >> > > >>>> students and for
> > anyone
> > > who
> > > >> wants to
> > > >> > > communicate with international
> > > >> > > >>>> students
> > > >> > > >>>> or is interested
> > in
> > > learning
> > > >> about study
> > > >> > > abroad or volunteer
> > > >> > > >>>> opportunities
> > > >> > > >>>> abroad. Also
> > someone
> > > could write
> > > >> a article
> > > >> > > for the Student Slate (a news
> > > >> > > >>>> letter sponsored
> > by the
> > > NABS "a
> > > >> student
> > > >> > > chapter of the NFB") September
> > > >> > > >>>> issue. I would
> > > volunteer to do
> > > >> this but I
> > > >> > > am already writing couple of
> > > >> > > >>>> articles so it may
> > be a
> > > bit to
> > > >> much.
> > > >> > > >>>> The list is on the
> > NFB
> > > >> discussion list.
> > > >> > > Infact  thats how I learned
> > > >> > > >>>> about
> > > >> > > >>>> it, but most
> > people do
> > > not think
> > > >> about
> > > >> > > going to the discussion list page
> > > >> > > >>>> and
> > > >> > > >>>> therefore are not
> > aware
> > > of it.
> > > >> > > >>>> Also I think
> > having
> > > regular
> > > >> conference
> > > >> > > calls and some fun activities
> > > >> > > >>>> will
> > > >> > > >>>> help generate
> > interest
> > > in the
> > > >> group.
> > > >> > > >>>> Just some
> > thoughts.
> > > >> > > >>>> Anmol
> > > >> > > >>>> I seldom think
> > about
> > > my
> > > >> limitations, and
> > > >> > > they never make me sad. Perhaps
> > > >> > > >>>> there is just a
> > touch
> > > of
> > > >> yearning at
> > > >> > > times; but it is vague, like a
> > > >> > > >>>> breeze
> > > >> > > >>>> among flowers.
> > > >> > > >>>> Hellen Keller
> > > >> > > >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>> --- On Mon,
> > 8/2/10,
> > > hina altaf
> > > >> <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>> From: hina
> > altaf
> > > <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>> Subject: Re:
> > > >> > > [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > >
> > > [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >>>>> To: "Blind
> > > International
> > > >> Students
> > > >> > > Mailing List"
> > > >> > > >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > >>>>> Date: Monday,
> > > August 2,
> > > >> 2010, 12:03
> > > >> > > PM
> > > >> > > >>>>> i contacted
> > Diane
> > > >> McGeorge  last
> > > >> > > >>>>> year as well
> > about
> > > our group
> > > >> but
> > > >> > > >>>>> never got any
> > > reply. well
> > > >> where do you
> > > >> > > want to advertise
> > > >> > > >>>>> the group?
> > > >> > > >>>>> last year i
> > and
> > > philip got
> > > >> an offer to
> > > >> > > do a radio show
> > > >> > > >>>>> about our
> > group
> > > >> > > >>>>> but we did not
> > do
> > > due to
> > > >> some reason
> > > >> > > that we discussed off
> > > >> > > >>>>> list. but
> > > >> > > >>>>> that is
> > something
> > > we could
> > > >> still
> > > >> > > consider. hina.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>> On 8/2/10,
> > jan
> > > wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>> > Hi
> > Anmol,
> > > >> > > >>>>> > Tell us
> > about
> > > the
> > > >> conference in
> > > >> > > DC.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > That
> > sounds
> > > >> interesting.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > Yes, I
> > forgot
> > > about the
> > > >> world
> > > >> > > Blind Union.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > I went
> > to
> > > their site in
> > > >> hopes to
> > > >> > > join: but I am not
> > > >> > > >>>>> part of an
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > organization
> > > and I
> > > >> think that you
> > > >> > > have to have lots of
> > > >> > > >>>>> money to
> > join.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > Or, you
> > have
> > > to be part
> > > >> of a
> > > >> > > blindness organization.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > Well,
> > Anmol, I
> > > forgot
> > > >> about the
> > > >> > > blind corps also.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > I found
> > this
> > > quite
> > > >> interesting.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > I'd like
> > to
> > > know more
> > > >> about it
> > > >> > > and if we could
> > > >> > > >>>>> contribute in
> > some
> > > type of
> > > >> > > >>>>> > way.
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>> > Yes, I
> > would
> > > be willing
> > > >> to hear
> > > >> > > this woman speak on a
> > > >> > > >>>>> conference
> > call.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > I have a
> > > meeting on
> > > >> Tuesday, but
> > > >> > > the other days are
> > > >> > > >>>>> free for me.
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>> > I have
> > emailed
> > > Diane
> > > >> McGeorge
> > > >> > > about this group and she
> > > >> > > >>>>> has not
> > gotten
> > > >> > > >>>>> > back with
> > me.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > So, I
> > guess we
> > > will
> > > >> have to
> > > >> > > advertise ourselves.
> > > >> > > >>>>> > If we can
> > get
> > > a good
> > > >> description
> > > >> > > about our group
> > > >> > > >>>>> together,
> > then
> > > we
> > > >> > > >>>>> > can send
> > it to
> > > our
> > > >> divisions and
> > > >> > > state presidents for
> > > >> > > >>>>> them to
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > distribute.
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>> > Hey,
> > Hina, you
> > > are
> > > >> moderator of
> > > >> > > the group:
> > > >> > > >>>>> > What do
> > you
> > > think?
> > > >> > > >>>>> > I don't
> > know,
> > > any
> > > >> thoughts?
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>> > On
> > 8/2/10,
> > > Imran Ahmed
> > > >> <imran.altaf at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>> >> What
> > > platform are
> > > >> you using
> > > >> > > to host the conference
> > > >> > > >>>>> calls? Please
> > > share
> > > >> > > >>>>> >> the
> > > necessary
> > > >> details so that
> > > >> > > all who are
> > > >> > > >>>>> interested,
> > can
> > > participate
> > > >> > > >>>>> >> in
> > the
> > > conference
> > > >> call.
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>
> > Imran.
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>
> > > >> > > >>>>> >> On
> > 8/2/10,
> > > hina
> > > >> altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > hi
> > > anmol,
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > yes
> > > that
> > > >> is great idea
> > > >> > > to involve more
> > > >> > > >>>>> people an d
> > > organizations
> > > >> who
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > might
> > > be
> > > >> interested to
> > > >> > > help people from under
> > > >> > > >>>>> developed
> > > countries.
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > buna
> > > is also on
> > > >> the list,
> > > >> > > i met her last year
> > > >> > > >>>>> and she is a
> > very
> > > nice
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > lady
> > > who is
> > > >> very
> > > >> > > successfull in overcoming
> > > >> > > >>>>> challenges
> > that she
> > > had
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > being
> > > someone
> > > >> from under
> > > >> > > developed countries.
> > > >> > > >>>>> how did your
> > > conference
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > go? i
> > > wish i
> > > >> could have
> > > >> > > been able to make it
> > > >> > > >>>>> but due to
> > some
> > > issues i
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > was
> > > not able to
> > > >> attend
> > > >> > > although i qualified.
> > > >> > > >>>>> also i think
> > we
> > > should
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > focuss
> > > on
> > > >> starting one
> > > >> > > project at a time and
> > > >> > > >>>>> discuss first
> > what
> > > we
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > want
> > > to do. but
> > > >> i will be
> > > >> > > interested in
> > > >> > > >>>>> conference
> > call and
> > > if we
> > > >> can
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > get
> > > some ideas
> > > >> from the
> > > >> > > members as well as
> > > >> > > >>>>> from some
> > people
> > > who are
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > > already serving
> > > >> under
> > > >> > > developed countries in
> > > >> > > >>>>> some ways.
> > thanks.
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > hina
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > > >> > > >>>>> >>>
> > On
> > > 8/1/10,
> > > >> Anmol Bhatia
> > > >> > > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > Hello Jan
> > > >> and all,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > Sorry it
> > > >> has taken me
> > > >> > > a while to respond.
> > > >> > > >>>>> I was in
> > Washington
> > > D.C.
> > > >> last
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > week
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > for the
> > > >> National
> > > >> > > Council on Disability
> > > >> > > >>>>> Summit and got
> > kind
> > > of busy
> > > >> since
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > returning.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > Jan you did
> > > >> pretty
> > > >> > > good job summarizing
> > > >> > > >>>>> what happened
> > at
> > > the
> > > >> meeting,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > but
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > you for got
> > > >> about the
> > > >> > > World Blind Union.
> > > >> > > >>>>> Dr. Shroder
> > (NFB's
> > > first
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > >> vice-president) who
> > > >> > > is active in the World
> > > >> > > >>>>> Blind Union
> > told us
> > > about
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > World Blind
> > > >> Union and
> > > >> > > what it does. Also
> > > >> > > >>>>> Buna Dahal
> > told us
> > > about
> > > >> her
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > experience
> > > >> about
> > > >> > > growing in Nepal as the
> > > >> > > >>>>> only person in
> > her
> > > family
> > > >> who
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > is
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > blind and
> > > >> some of the
> > > >> > > challenges she
> > > >> > > >>>>> faced. She
> > also
> > > told us
> > > >> about the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > Blind
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > Core (like
> > > >> the Peace
> > > >> > > Core) except a
> > > >> > > >>>>> organization
> > which
> > > serves
> > > >> blind
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > people.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > Perhaps
> > > >> this can be
> > > >> > > one of our adopted
> > > >> > > >>>>> project that
> > we as
> > > a group
> > > >> of
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > interested
> > > >> > > Federationest who are
> > > >> > > >>>>> interested in
> > help
> > > blind
> > > >> kids in less
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > developed
> > > >> countries
> > > >> > > can work with. Also
> > > >> > > >>>>> last week I
> > met a
> > > lady who
> > > >> is
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > doing
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > some work
> > > >> in
> > > >> > > Ecuador to train and assist
> > > >> > > >>>>> the disabled
> > > population
> > > >> there.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>> I
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > am
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > thinking
> > > >> about
> > > >> > > holding a conference call
> > > >> > > >>>>> next weekend
> > so
> > > that the
> > > >> lady
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > who
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>> I
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > met can
> > > >> tell us about
> > > >> > > her work and what
> > > >> > > >>>>> she does. If I
> > held
> > > a
> > > >> conference
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > call would
> > > >> you
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > >> attend?
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > Also Jan I
> > > >> actually
> > > >> > > thought about this
> > > >> > > >>>>> mailing list
> > at the
> > > meeting,
> > > >> but
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>> be
> > > quit
> > > >> frank I felt
> > > >> > > that I was hogging
> > > >> > > >>>>> the
> > discussione so
> > > decided
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > keep
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>> my
> > > mouth
> > > >> shut. But I
> > > >> > > wish I would have
> > > >> > > >>>>> said something
> > or
> > > atleast
> > > >> got
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > everyone's
> > > >> email
> > > >> > > address so that we could
> > > >> > > >>>>> have formed
> > some
> > > sort of
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > >> communication.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > Anmol
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>> I
> > > seldom
> > > >> think about
> > > >> > > my limitations, and
> > > >> > > >>>>> they never
> > make me
> > > sad.
> > > >> Perhaps
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > there is
> > > >> just a touch
> > > >> > > of yearning at
> > > >> > > >>>>> times; but it
> > is
> > > vague, like
> > > >> a
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > breeze
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > among
> > > >> flowers.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > Hellen
> > > >> Keller
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > --- On Sat,
> > > >> 7/24/10,
> > > >> > > jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> From:
> > > >> jan wright
> > > >> > > <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> Subject: Re:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > >
> > > [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> To:
> > > >> "Blind
> > > >> > > International Students
> > > >> > > >>>>> Mailing List"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Date:
> > > >> Saturday,
> > > >> > > July 24, 2010, 6:43
> > > >> > > >>>>> PM
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi
> > > >> All,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I will
> > > >> give a
> > > >> > > summary of what went on
> > > >> > > >>>>> during the
> > meeting
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> (as it
> > > >> refers
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> to this
> > > >> list or
> > > >> > > things that we can do
> > > >> > > >>>>> on our own).
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Please,
> > > >> Anmol,
> > > >> > > chime in if I either
> > > >> > > >>>>> forget
> > something
> > > or
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> present
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> something
> > > >> > > incorrectly.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> We
> > > >> discussed
> > > >> > > making books more
> > > >> > > >>>>> accessible
> > for
> > > those who do
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> not
> > > >> live in the
> > > >> > > USA.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> We all
> > > >> know about
> > > >> > > the strict laws of
> > > >> > > >>>>> the Library
> > of
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> Congress and
> > > >> > > NLS.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> There
> > > >> was some
> > > >> > > discussion about the
> > > >> > > >>>>> library in
> > > Australia
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> and how
> > > >> they
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> were
> > > >> trying to
> > > >> > > help others have access
> > > >> > > >>>>> to both
> > braille
> > > (at
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> least
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> technical
> > > >> > > braille) and audio books.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> But,
> > > >> there were
> > > >> > > no suggestions as to
> > > >> > > >>>>> how we might
> > > assist
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> the
> > > >> process.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> We
> > > >> talked about
> > > >> > > sending items abroad.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Some
> > > >> people
> > > >> > > wanted to have a drive to
> > > >> > > >>>>> collect
> > equipment
> > > or
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> products
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> for the
> > > >> blind and
> > > >> > > send them to
> > > >> > > >>>>> developing
> > > countries.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> There
> > > >> was some
> > > >> > > discussion about the
> > > >> > > >>>>> postal fees.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> Apparently these
> > > >> > > fees have hindered
> > > >> > > >>>>> people from
> > > sending
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> large
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> quantities of
> > > >> > > products to other
> > > >> > > >>>>> countries.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> It was
> > > >> suggested
> > > >> > > that if we want to
> > > >> > > >>>>> try to get
> > products
> > > to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> send
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> other
> > > >> countries:
> > > >> > > we do it
> > > >> > > >>>>> individually,
> > not
> > > >> collectively.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> That
> > > >> was about
> > > >> > > the scope of the
> > > >> > > >>>>> meeting, as
> > it
> > > pertained to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> us
> > > >> taking
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> action
> > > >> in some
> > > >> > > sort of way.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Anmol,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Did I
> > > >> forget
> > > >> > > anything?
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Jan
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On
> > > >> 7/24/10,
> > > >> > > Philip So <philipso101 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> This sounds
> > > >> > > interesting.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> > I
> > > >> agree with
> > > >> > > Imran that since the
> > > >> > > >>>>> group is
> > small, we
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> could
> > > >> start with
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> one project
> > > >> > > first.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> Phil
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> > On
> > > >> 7/24/10,
> > > >> > > Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> hi jan,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> that
> > > >> > > is great. hope we
> > > >> > > >>>>> accomplish
> > > something.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> hina.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> -----
> > > >> > > Original Message -----
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> From:
> > > >> > > "jan wright" <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> To:
> > > >> > > "Blind International
> > > >> > > >>>>> Students
> > Mailing
> > > List"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> Sent:
> > > >> > > Saturday, July 24, 2010
> > > >> > > >>>>> 1:28 PM
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> Subject:
> > > >> > > Re:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > >
> > [Blind-international-students][Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> Hi
> > > >> > > Hina,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> Thanks!
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> If I
> > > >> > > don't see it on our
> > > >> > > >>>>> presidents'
> > list,
> > > we
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> might
> > > >> have to
> > > >> > > just start
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> posting
> > > >> > > a blurb about it
> > > >> > > >>>>> ourselves.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> Jan
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >> On
> > > >> > > 7/24/10, Carly Mihalakis
> > > >> > > >>>>> <carlymih at earthlink.net>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>> Hi,
> > > >> > > Anmol,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > Wasn't at the convention
> > > >> > > >>>>> so was not at
> > the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> meeting
> > > >> in which
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > future of this List was
> > > >> > > >>>>> discussed.
> > However,
> > > if
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I may I
> > > >> hope to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > suggest some things I
> > > >> > > >>>>> believe could
> > > cloud
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> perceptions while
> > > >> > > setting
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > global policies across
> > > >> > > >>>>> cultures of
> > other
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> peoples
> > > >> and
> > > >> > > social fabrics.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>> It
> > > >> > > seems to me that a
> > > >> > > >>>>> group's
> > cultural
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> identity ought to
> > > >> > > be kept
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > close in mind
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> while   seeking
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> to set
> > > >> universal
> > > >> > > policy and such.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>> It
> > > >> > > may be important to
> > > >> > > >>>>> consider that,
> > one
> > > size
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> does
> > > >> not fit all
> > > >> > > in
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > matters of cultural
> > > >> > > >>>>> practices.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>> C.
> > > >> > > discussed ways to
> > > >> > > >>>>> help blind
> > people
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> in
> > > >> developing
> > > >> > > countries and
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > maybe making the
> > > >> > > >>>>> committee
> > more
> > > active so I
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> was
> > > >> thinking
> > > >> > > perhaps this
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> > > could be driving force
> > > >> > > >>>>> that can make
> > it
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> happen.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>Any thoughts?
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>Anmol
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>I
> > > >> > > seldom think about
> > > >> > > >>>>> my
> > limitations,
> > > and
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> they
> > > >> never make
> > > >> > > me sad.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>Perhaps there is
> > just
> > > >> > > >>>>> a touch of
> > > yearning
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> at
> > > >> times; but it
> > > >> > > is vague,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>like a breeze
> > among
> > > >> > > >>>>> flowers.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>Hellen Keller
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>--- On Fri,
> > 7/23/10,
> > > >> > > >>>>> Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > From: Hina
> > > >> > > >>>>> <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Subject: Re:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > >
> > > [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > To: "Blind
> > > >> > > >>>>> International
> > > Students
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Mailing
> > > >> List"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Date: Friday,
> > > >> > > >>>>> July 23, 2010,
> > 7:16
> > > PM
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > hi anmol,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > that is a great
> > > >> > > >>>>> idea to turn
> > it
> > > into
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> a
> > > >> discussion list
> > > >> > > to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > discuss
> > > >> > > >>>>> disability
> > related
> > > issues.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> maybe
> > > >> someday we
> > > >> > > all
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > could  get
> > > >> > > >>>>> together and
> > do
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> something like
> > > >> > > that.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > ----- Original
> > > >> > > >>>>> Message -----
> > > From:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> "Anmol
> > > >> Bhatia"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > To: "Blind
> > > >> > > >>>>> International
> > > Students
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Mailing
> > > >> List"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Sent: Friday,
> > > >> > > >>>>> July 23, 2010
> > 6:59
> > > PM
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Subject: Re:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > >
> > > [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Hi jan,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Wellcome to the
> > > >> > > >>>>> list. I
> > believe I
> > > am
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> the guy
> > > >> from
> > > >> > > India who
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > you met at the
> > > >> > > >>>>> Intercultural
> > > exchange
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> meeting. It
> > > >> > > occured to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > me later that
> > > >> > > >>>>> this group
> > would be
> > > a
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> good
> > > >> resource for
> > > >> > > anyone
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > interested in
> > > >> > > >>>>> communicating
> > with
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> international
> > > >> > > students and
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > maybe we could
> > > >> > > >>>>> even use it
> > to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> implement some
> > > >> > > international
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > development
> > > >> > > >>>>> projects some
> > of
> > > which we
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> discussed in the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > meeting. Perhaps
> > > >> > > >>>>> this can
> > become
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> mailing
> > > >> list for
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Intercultural
> > > >> > > >>>>> exchange
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> committee. I
> > > >> > > really found the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > discussion about
> > > >> > > >>>>> Blind Core
> > really
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> interesting and
> > > >> > > one day I
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > would love to
> > > >> > > >>>>> attend the
> > World
> > > Blind
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Union.
> > > >> Someone
> > > >> > > had
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > suggest to me
> > > >> > > >>>>> that perhaps
> > we
> > > can
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> have
> > > >> an
> > > >> > > international
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > table at the
> > > >> > > >>>>> bankquit but
> > > frankly
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> things
> > > >> were so
> > > >> > > busy I did
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > not even have
> > > >> > > >>>>> the time to
> > visit
> > > with
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> this
> > > >> person.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > To answer your
> > > >> > > >>>>> question, I do
> > not
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> mind
> > > >> answering
> > > >> > > any
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > question about
> > > >> > > >>>>> my country or
> > my
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> experience or my
> > > >> > > culture or
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > religion. That
> > > >> > > >>>>> is how a
> > person
> > > can
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> learn.
> > > >> So feel
> > > >> > > free to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > ask me any
> > > >> > > >>>>> questions.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Anmol
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > I seldom think
> > > >> > > >>>>> about my
> > > limitations,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> and
> > > >> they never
> > > >> > > make me
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > sad. Perhaps
> > > >> > > >>>>> there is just
> > a
> > > touch of
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> yearning at
> > > >> > > times; but
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > it is vague,
> > > >> > > >>>>> like a breeze
> > > among
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> flowers.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > Hellen Keller
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > --- On Fri,
> > > >> > > >>>>> 7/23/10, jan
> > > wright
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > From: jan
> > > >> > > >>>>> wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Subject:
> > > >> > > >>>>> Re:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> > > [Blind-international-students]
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > introduction
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > To: "Blind
> > > >> > > >>>>> International
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> Students Mailing
> > > >> > > List"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Date:
> > > >> > > >>>>> Friday, July
> > 23,
> > > 2010,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 2:06
> > > >> PM
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Hi Hina,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Well, I
> > > >> > > >>>>> didn't meet
> > many
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> international
> > > >> > > students.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > In the
> > > >> > > >>>>> Intercultural
> > > exchange
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> meeting, there
> > > >> > > was a guy
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > from
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > India, but
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > he said
> > > >> > > >>>>> that it was
> > his
> > > first
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> time.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > And, there
> > > >> > > >>>>> was so much on
> > the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> agenda
> > > >> that we
> > > >> > > did not
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > get to
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > mingle.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > I wish that
> > > >> > > >>>>> we had.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > I thought
> > > >> > > >>>>> that I heard
> > other
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> international
> > > >> > > students
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > there:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > But, I felt
> > > >> > > >>>>> a bit awkward
> > just
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> walking
> > > >> up to
> > > >> > > them and
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > saying:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > "Hi, my
> > > >> > > >>>>> name is Jan.
> > Are
> > > you an
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> international
> > > >> > > student
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > or
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>> non-American
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > NFB
> > > >> > > >>>>> member?"
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > I may not
> > > >> > > >>>>> have been
> > received
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> well.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > So, here is
> > > >> > > >>>>> a question for
> > the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> group:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Do you mind
> > > >> > > >>>>> people
> > approaching
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> you and
> > > >> asking
> > > >> > > you
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > what
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > country you
> > > >> > > >>>>> are
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > from and
> > > >> > > >>>>> other
> > questions
> > > about
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> your
> > > >> journey as
> > > >> > > a
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > blind
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > person????
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Or, is that
> > > >> > > >>>>> just too
> > personal
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> and do
> > > >> you get
> > > >> > > tired of
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > answering
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > questions
> > > >> > > >>>>> that
> > emphasize
> > > your
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> differences?
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > Jan
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > On 7/23/10,
> > > >> > > >>>>> Imran Ahmed
> > <imran.altaf at gmail.com>
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > > Hello
> > > >> > > >>>>> Noah,
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > > Its
> > > >> > > >>>>> always
> > exciting to
> > > come
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> across
> > > >> people on
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > lists
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > who are
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > >>>>> pursuing the
> > same
> > > field as
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I am.
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > > I
> > > >> > > >>>>> actually have
> > a
> > > friend
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> located
> > > >> in oman
> > > >> > > who
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > works
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> > > > > there for
> > > >> > > >>>>> some company
> > > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
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