[Blind-international-students] introducing myself andcommentsonyour discussion

[Anmol Bhatia]

Hello,
I agree. There is a free conference call service that my friend told me about but I failed to write down the number he gave me. I will check into it and let everyone know. The chat line I don't think will be appropreate for this situation since it is more of a social chat line and may drive people away. So for situation like this we need something a little more formal. So how about we have a social get to know you conference this weekend? How many of us can attend if it is this weekend? Let me know. Also Hina do you want to write a one page add for this group to put in the Student Slate (the newletter sent out by NABS)?
Anmol
I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
Hellen Keller


--- On Thu, 8/5/10, hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] introducing myself andcommentsonyour discussion
> To: "Blind International Students Mailing List" <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 3:16 PM
> anmol i think first meeting should be
> just social get together on the
> conference. a lot  of us only know each other through
> emails and never
> spoke to one another directly. i think we should first have
> a social
> meeting  so  everyone is  introduced
> to   each other. do we have a
> free number that we could use to host our conference anmol?
> the chat
> line you once gave me, maybe there but i don't want any
> other
> intruptions. it should be just our blind international
> group and our
> speakers. but in this first one we should just meet one
> another rather
> then starting it too formal. some people are still new and
> need to be
> comfortable with each other.
> hina.
> 
> On 8/5/10, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello Jan,
> > Great points! I would like to do it this weekend but
> maybe to much of a
> > short notice.
> > My thinking was to ask a person who I met during my
> trip to Washington and
> > see if she would do a presentation the project she is
> doing on international
> > development for people with  disabilities. Maybe
> let her speak for about
> > half-hour, take questions for about 15 minutes and
> then we can move to
> > discussion for 15 minutes or how ever long people want
> to stay on. We could
> > start with some of the points but the conference calls
> will have to be on
> > going. At some point maybe if anyone knows of a
> immigration lawyer who would
> > be willing to do some free consoltation maybe that
> could be one of our guest
> > speak. I would personally like this and alot of
> international students could
> > benefit from this. I suggest that Hina as one of the
> list moderators be our
> > leader for this conference calls until we can figure
> out the leadership
> > structure. Any thoughts?
> >
> > Anmol
> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
> make me sad. Perhaps
> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
> vague, like a breeze
> > among flowers.
> > Hellen Keller
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 8/5/10, jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> introducing myself
> >> andcommentsonyour discussion
> >> To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
> >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> >> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 1:14 PM
> >>  Hi All,
> >> So, are we scheduling a conference call?
> >> What shall be our agenda?
> >> ... not necessarily in this order....
> >>
> >> 1. Hina and Anmol have mentioned the astronomical
> >> expense  of an
> >> international student. Is there something that we
> can do
> >> about it?
> >> 2. Imran has mentioned the need for some type of
> reach/out
> >> and support
> >> for international students. How can we find
> international
> >> students? Is
> >> there a way that we can be informed when they
> arrive so
> >> that we can
> >> offer a network of ....  "mentors" if you will?
> As
> >> well as finding a
> >> way to give them all the information that they
> might need
> >> both about
> >> blindness and their unique status as
> international
> >> students.
> >>    3. How can we respond to those blind
> >> people who are not in America?
> >> Should we try to implement projects collectively
> or
> >> individually? If
> >> we don't work with agencies that are already
> structured,
> >> then we will
> >> need to find individuals as our liasons.
> >> 5. Should we have a division of the NFB? (We have
> enough
> >> members). We
> >> could write a constitution and elect officers. 
> Or,
> >> Should we form a
> >> formal organization independent of the nfb?
> Discussion
> >> about pros and
> >> cons of affiliating with NFB or other
> organization. What
> >> about Anmol's
> >> org MIUSA? What about American Foundation or
> ......
> >> others?
> >> 6. Should we form a formal statement of goals,
> guidelines
> >> or anything else?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/4/10, Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >> > yes, i do understand. but still we need to be
> careful
> >> dear friend.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Carly Mihalakis" <carlymih at earthlink.net>
> >> > To: "Blind International Students Mailing
> List"
> >> > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 6:09 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
> >> introducing myself
> >> > andcommentsonyour discussion
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi, Heena,
> >> >
> >> >          I do not feel my
> >> reference to a "son of a bitch" was used in
> >> > a way that was gratuitous, but an accurate
> albeit
> >> colorful
> >> > description of the Obama aproach approach of
> ruling
> >> this fair land.
> >> > Examine the context please, Heena.
> >> > C.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Not just a single war in Iraq but
> can't you
> >> hear the war drums
> >> >> > beating from Afghanistan, Pakistan
> and North
> >> Korea all awaiting US
> >> >> > invasion, for the crime of
> nonconformance to
> >> American values?
> >> >> > It seems, Obama would rather invest
> in taking
> >> life away, and
> >> >> > destroying perfectly viable
> infrastructure
> >> than to actually channel
> >> >> > resources for the long term health
> care
> >> of People.
> >> >> > He's an ever calculating son of a
> bitch, and
> >> nobody better start
> >> >> > accusing me of being a racist or any
> such
> >> slander because   Obama
> >> >> > keeps as far away from Black affairs
> as
> >> possible, even if it means
> >> >> > throwing prominent Black figures 
> under
> >> that bus.
> >> >> > Car
> >> >> >>The cost to the USA
> infrastructure of
> >> having a war in Iraq is also
> >> >> >>bloody
> >> >> >>prohibitive, doesn't seem to stop
> our
> >> leaders from doing so.
> >> >> >>It's perhaps a question of
> priorities.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Dan W.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> On Behalf Of
> >> >> >>Guido
> >> >> >>Corona
> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
> 10:55 AM
> >> >> >>To: 'Blind International Students
> Mailing
> >> List'
> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
> >> [Blind-international-students] introducingmyself
> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Dan, not quite sure if this has
> been
> >> mentioned, but the current cost of
> >> >> >>a
> >> >> >>money identifier is $99, not $300
> as
> >> suggested.  ... See below.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>As for changing to a multi-size
> bill
> >> system,  it simply will not happen.
> >> >> >>The cost to the USA
> infrastructure would
> >> be prohibitive if the rationale
> >> >> >>remains purely an accessibility
> >> standpoint, for which there is a
> >> >> >>multiplicity of
> workarounds/alternatives.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>* * * *
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >From the Braille Monitor for
> December
> >> 2009 at:
> >> >> >>http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm09/bm0911/bm091118.htm
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>New Money Identifier Available:
> >> >> >>We received the following press
> release
> >> describing a new money
> >> >> >>identifier
> >> >> >>now available in the United
> States. Here,
> >> in part, is the text of this
> >> >> >>announcement:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Orbit Research has announced the
> >> introduction of the iBill, the world's
> >> >> >>first affordable talking
> banknote
> >> identifier for the blind and
> >> >> >>vision-impaired.
> >> >> >>Priced at $99, the 1.5 ounce
> pager-sized
> >> iBill represents a breakthrough
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>in
> >> >> >>enabling blind and vision
> impaired people
> >> to achieve independence in the
> >> >> >>everyday
> >> >> >>necessity of using paper
> currency. At
> >> about a third of the cost of
> >> >> >>existing
> >> >> >>devices, the iBill offers
> unrivaled
> >> features, ease of use, and accuracy
> >> >> >>of
> >> >> >>identification.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>The iBill is an exceptionally
> convenient
> >> and affordable solution that
> >> >> >>blind
> >> >> >>and vision-impaired people can
> use.
> >> Measuring just 3 inches by 1.6
> >> >> >>inches
> >> >> >> by
> >> >> >>0.7 inches, the ultra-slim and
> compact
> >> key-fob design provides the
> >> >> >>ultimate
> >> >> >>in convenience, allowing it to be
> carried
> >> unobtrusively in a pocket or
> >> >> >>purse,
> >> >> >>clipped to a belt, or attached to
> a
> >> keychain or lanyard. Among the
> >> >> >>features
> >> >> >>that set it apart from other such
> devices
> >> are its high accuracy (better
> >> >> >> than
> >> >> >>99.9 percent) and the
> near-instantaneous
> >> speed (less than one second in
> >> >> >> most
> >> >> >>cases) with which it identifies
> >> banknotes.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>The iBill provides the simplest,
> fastest,
> >> and most accurate means to
> >> >> >>identify U.S. banknotes. Its
> unique
> >> ergonomic design permits easy and
> >> >> >>intuitive use
> >> >> >>without training or practice.
> When a
> >> banknote is inserted into the
> >> >> >>device,
> >> >> >>its denomination is identified at
> the
> >> press of a button. Based on the
> >> >> >> user's
> >> >> >>preference, the denomination is
> announced
> >> by a clear and natural voice
> >> >> >>or
> >> >> >> by
> >> >> >>tone or vibration for privacy.
> The unit
> >> identifies all U.S. banknotes in
> >> >> >>circulation
> >> >> >>and recognizes them in any
> orientation.
> >> Banknotes in poor physical
> >> >> >> condition
> >> >> >>are indicated as unidentifiable
> and are
> >> not misread. The unit is also
> >> >> >>upgradeable
> >> >> >>to recognize new banknote
> designs.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>The iBill achieves all of this
> while
> >> operating on a single, commonly
> >> >> >>available AAA battery, which
> lasts for
> >> over a year with typical use. Its
> >> >> >>durable construction
> >> >> >>and sealed design ensure
> trouble-free use.
> >> The unit is backed by a
> >> >> >>one-year
> >> >> >>warranty from Orbit Research,
> and
> >> toll-free customer support is
> >> >> >>available.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>For further information contact
> Orbit
> >> Research, 3422 Old Capitol Trail,
> >> >> >>Suite 585, Wilmington, DE 19808;
> (888)
> >> 606-7248;
> >> >> >><http://www.orbitresearch.com>.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Guido D. Corona
> >> >> >>Email: guidoc at austin.rr.com
> >> >> >>Home office: (512) 996-9187
> >> >> >>Mobile: (512) 466-1322
> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> On Behalf Of
> >> >> >>Dan
> >> >> >>Weiner
> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
> 9:17 AM
> >> >> >>To: 'Blind International Students
> Mailing
> >> List'
> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Wait, the NFB, our NFB which
> claims that
> >> any adaptation to money would
> >> >> >> cause
> >> >> >>the sighted to think less of our
> ability
> >> to handle money, this NFB now
> >> >> >> wants
> >> >> >>to study tactile identification
> for
> >> money?
> >> >> >>Why do that, blindness is
> reduced, with
> >> proper training and tecnique, to
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >>level of a nuisance.
> >> >> >>Just because we have to ask
> people what
> >> our money is and someone could
> >> >> >>give
> >> >> >>us a load of bull shit  and tell
> us
> >> it's a five when it's a ten, doesn't
> >> >> >>mean we should do anything about
> it.
> >> >> >>The proceeding was sarcasm for
> those who
> >> didn't guess--smile.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Most of the countries I have
> visited
> >> have paper money of different
> >> >> >>sizes
> >> >> >>and not too many people in these
> countries
> >> use our folding method of
> >> >> >>money
> >> >> >>identifying.
> >> >> >>The Japanese actually told me
> bluntly it
> >> sounded weird--smile.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>A money identifyer, to quote our
> friend
> >> Carlie, is a bunch of crap, or
> >> >> >>something like that.
> >> >> >>Many aren't reliable and they
> cost money.
> >> >> >>At $300.00 for the Note Teller,
> that means
> >> a person getting six hundred
> >> >> >>dollars social security wouldn't
> be able
> >> to eat that month.
> >> >> >>Now, granted there are other
> models, but I
> >> haven't tried them yet.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Speaking of Carlie, I sincerely
> apologize
> >> for not being in touch, I
> >> >> >>don't
> >> >> >>know what I did with your Email
> in which
> >> you sent me contact info, so
> >> >> >> please
> >> >> >>write me again at:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>I think our Federation is
> somewhat
> >> selective on the projects we take on.
> >> >> >>If we don't want to take it on,
> then our
> >> leaders say it's not necessary
> >> >> >>rather than  saying we just
> don't
> >> have the time or inclination to deal
> >> >> >>with
> >> >> >>it.
> >> >> >>I'm pretty sick of the organized
> blind
> >> movement as far as things like
> >> >> >>that
> >> >> >>are concerned, both ACB and NFB.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Cordially,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Dan W.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> On Behalf Of
> >> >> >>Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
> 8:30 AM
> >> >> >>To: Blind International Students
> Mailing
> >> List
> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Hi Anmol, and others
> >> >> >>I just read many of the emails
> about the
> >> blind international division
> >> >> >>and
> >> >> >>the issue about money identifier.
> I would
> >> like to say this much about
> >> >> >> money.
> >> >> >>The NFB has been working for the
> last two
> >> years to get some kind of
> >> >> >>tactile
> >> >> >>identification system on the
> paper bills.
> >> Some of us who are totally
> >> >> >>blind
> >> >> >>are participating in a study. We
> may have
> >> the results by next year.
> >> >> >>The second issue some have
> brought up is
> >> being independent. There is a
> >> >> >>wonderful speech by Dr. Jernigan,
> "The
> >> Nature of Independence" It is
> >> >> >>available on the NFB website. I
> suggest
> >> that you read it. Asking for
> >> >> >>help
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >>not new. Even sighted people ask
> for it.
> >> >> >>I will say that a division will
> be good. I
> >> think that committee meetings
> >> >> >>have happened enough.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Yasmin Reyazuddin
> >> >> >>Aging & Disability services
> >> >> >>Montgomery County Government
> >> >> >>Department of Health & human
> Services
> >> >> >>401 Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
> >> >> >>Rockville MD 20850
> >> >> >>240-777-0311 (MC311)
> >> >> >>240-777-1556 (personal)
> >> >> >>240-777-1495 (fax)
> >> >> >>office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
> >> >> >>Languages English, Hindi, Urdu,
> Braille
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>This message may contain
> protected health
> >> information or other
> >> >> >>information
> >> >> >>that is confidential or
> privileged. If you
> >> are not the intended
> >> >> >>recipient,
> >> >> >>please contact the sender by
> return mail
> >> and destroy any copies of this
> >> >> >>material.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Thank you.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> On Behalf Of
> >> >> >>Anmol
> >> >> >>Bhatia
> >> >> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010
> 9:30 PM
> >> >> >>To: Blind International Students
> Mailing
> >> List
> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
> >> >> >> andcommentson
> >> >> >>your discussion
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Hello Reyazuddin,,
> >> >> >>The sad reality is that the same
> is true
> >> for the schools for the blind
> >> >> >>in
> >> >> >>the United States. The Arkansas
> School for
> >> the Blind was not the same
> >> >> >>when
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >>graduated from there as it was
> when I
> >> started there. I often blind
> >> >> >>people
> >> >> >>that we are our own worst
> enemies. It is a
> >> pleg which has hit blind
> >> >> >>community, blind schools, blind
> >> organizations and professnals serving
> >> >> >>the
> >> >> >>blind community and we need a
> quick cure!
> >> lol
> >> >> >>However, our generation "our
> generation
> >> and beyound" can not let the
> >> >> >>same
> >> >> >>happen when we come in
> leadership
> >> positions. I am also from India and
> >> >> >> always
> >> >> >>like to meet other blind people
> from
> >> India.
> >> >> >>Anmol
> >> >> >>I seldom think about my
> limitations, and
> >> they never make me sad. Perhaps
> >> >> >>there is just a touch of yearning
> at
> >> times; but it is vague, like a
> >> >> >>breeze
> >> >> >>among flowers.
> >> >> >>Hellen Keller
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Reyazuddin,
> Yasmin
> >> >> >><Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > From: Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> >> >> >> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> >> >> >> > Subject: Re:
> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
> and
> >> >> >>commentson your discussion
> >> >> >> > To: "Blind International
> Students
> >> Mailing List"
> >> >> >><blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> >> > Date: Tuesday, August 3,
> 2010, 3:10
> >> PM
> >> >> >> > Hi Jan,
> >> >> >> > I like your idea. We all
> have to
> >> think about what is
> >> >> >> > important. For the group. I
> have not
> >> shared but here it is.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Last November I went to
> India, and
> >> visited my old school.
> >> >> >> > This used to be a very good
> school
> >> when I went there. We had
> >> >> >> > blind teachers and some
> sighted
> >> teachers. There were blind
> >> >> >> > people working in different
> jobs.
> >> >> >> > I found out that the school
> has gone
> >> down hill, meaning
> >> >> >> > there is no hope for the
> students.
> >> The school administration
> >> >> >> > does not serve the blind
> community.
> >> They serve their own
> >> >> >> > pockets. They have very few
> real
> >> teachers and the rest are
> >> >> >> > administration pets.
> >> >> >> > When I went there, the
> security
> >> guard told me that I was
> >> >> >> > not welcome. The school was
> closed
> >> and no staff was there. I
> >> >> >> > persisted and went in. I
> met some of
> >> my old teachers who
> >> >> >> > gave me the bad news. The
> school
> >> administration and the
> >> >> >> > teachers are fighting
> against each
> >> other. There are human
> >> >> >> > rights violations of all
> levels.
> >> >> >> > Blind graduates of the
> school are no
> >> longer able to go to
> >> >> >> > college and they can not
> get jobs.
> >> >> >> > Students at the school are
> not
> >> getting any assistance or
> >> >> >> > education. If you have a
> will you
> >> may get through but it is
> >> >> >> > very difficult.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I am sure that many others
> will have
> >> similar stories.
> >> >> >> > Right now I am mentoring a
> young
> >> blind man who lives in
> >> >> >> > India by email.
> >> >> >> > I am sorry if this is not
> the right
> >> forum for this
> >> >> >> > discussion.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Yasmin Reyazuddin
> >> >> >> > Aging & Disability
> services
> >> >> >> > Montgomery County
> Government
> >> >> >> > Department of Health &
> human
> >> Services
> >> >> >> > 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd
> floor)
> >> >> >> > Rockville MD 20850
> >> >> >> > 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> >> >> >> > 240-777-1556 (personal)
> >> >> >> > 240-777-1495 (fax)
> >> >> >> > office hours 8:30 am 5:00
> pm
> >> >> >> > Languages English, Hindi,
> Urdu,
> >> Braille
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > This message may contain
> protected
> >> health information or
> >> >> >> > other information that is
> >> confidential or privileged. If you
> >> >> >> > are not the intended
> recipient,
> >> please contact the sender by
> >> >> >> > return mail and destroy any
> copies
> >> of this material.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thank you.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> >> >> > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> >> >> > On Behalf Of jan wright
> >> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03,
> 2010 3:40
> >> PM
> >> >> >> > To: Blind International
> Students
> >> Mailing List
> >> >> >> > Subject: Re:
> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing
> >> >> >> > myself and commentson your
> >> discussion
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >   Hi Jim, Yasmin and
> >> Anmol,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Anmol, I will ask:
> >> >> >> > What part of the Nfb
> philosophy do
> >> you find does not fit
> >> >> >> > into the
> >> >> >> > category of "positive."
> >> >> >> > In short, which part do you
> have a
> >> difficult time
> >> >> >> > supporting?
> >> >> >> > We all -- well most of us,
> have
> >> certain things that we are
> >> >> >> > passionate
> >> >> >> > about within the NFB and
> some things
> >> that we are not as
> >> >> >> > passionate about.
> >> >> >> > Some of us are passionate
> about
> >> braille! Others are
> >> >> >> > passionate about
> >> >> >> > independent travel. Others
> are
> >> passionate about the "image
> >> >> >> > of the
> >> >> >> > blind in public."
> >> >> >> > I must admit:
> >> >> >> > There are parts of the
> philosophy
> >> that I support
> >> >> >> > whole-heartedly.
> >> >> >> > For example: I do believe 
> that
> >> everyone should have a
> >> >> >> > chance to learn
> >> >> >> > braille as a viable way of
> >> communicating.
> >> >> >> > I believe that blind people
> should
> >> be taught by blind
> >> >> >> > people.
> >> >> >> > But, (one example of my
> >> divergence)  I did hear that
> >> >> >> > in the philosophy
> >> >> >> > that the NFB is skeptical
> (and does
> >> not care) to work with
> >> >> >> > other
> >> >> >> > organizations of disabled
> people.
> >> >> >> > They say that if they work
> with
> >> other disabled people's
> >> >> >> > organizations,
> >> >> >> > blind people get  put on
> the
> >> backburner.
> >> >> >> > I understand this
> skepticism. But, I
> >> would encourage us to
> >> >> >> > still try
> >> >> >> > to work with other
> organizations -
> >> yet, have our goal
> >> >> >> > firmly planted
> >> >> >> > in our mind.
> >> >> >> > So, you might say that I
> "disagree,"
> >> with that portion of
> >> >> >> > the philosophy.
> >> >> >> > But, for me:
> >> >> >> > I am in the nfb because I
> want to
> >> help blind people achieve
> >> >> >> > their
> >> >> >> > highest  potential.
> >> >> >> > I want to show us (I am not
> so
> >> worried about that fickle
> >> >> >> > sighted
> >> >> >> > public) that We can live
> the life
> >> that we want.
> >> >> >> > We can be parents.
> >> >> >> > We can be professionals.
> >> >> >> > We can go on trips
> independently.
> >> >> >> > We can enjoy activities
> such as
> >> sports, games, playing an
> >> >> >> > instrument,
> >> >> >> > picnics, etc.
> >> >> >> > We can worship as we
> choose.
> >> >> >> > We can go to college.
> >> >> >> > We can have a career.
> >> >> >> > We can live fulfilling
> lives full of
> >> all of the events
> >> >> >> > that  are
> >> >> >> > present in the lives of
> the
> >> sighted.
> >> >> >> > That is why I am here.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > And, maybe that is what we
> can take
> >> to other countries.
> >> >> >> > Thoughts?????
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > There are organizations in
> other
> >> countries.
> >> >> >> > Does the world Blind Union
> have a
> >> listing of these
> >> >> >> > organizations in
> >> >> >> > each country?
> >> >> >> > I have found some, but not
> many.
> >> >> >> > I thought that one thing
> that the
> >> World Blind Union can do
> >> >> >> > is to
> >> >> >> > provide an international
> directory
> >> of organizations and
> >> >> >> > services for
> >> >> >> > the blind.
> >> >> >> > It would also be nice if
> they could
> >> help with an internet
> >> >> >> > site and
> >> >> >> > a bit of email.
> >> >> >> > Yes, I have seen the
> International
> >> Library Service provide
> >> >> >> > a small
> >> >> >> > list, but it is out of
> date, I am
> >> positive.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Blind corps, well, I will
> have to
> >> google this.
> >> >> >> > Do they only go to
> turkey?????
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I am sorry to hear about
> Robert
> >> Leslie Newman.
> >> >> >> > I  always enjoyed the
> thought
> >> provoker and hope that
> >> >> >> > someday, a writer
> >> >> >> > takes it on.
> >> >> >> > Jan
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On 8/3/10, Anmol Bhatia
> <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> > > Hello James,
> >> >> >> > > First and for most
> welcome to
> >> the list.
> >> >> >> > > I like Hina ecco the
> value that
> >> people like you and
> >> >> >> > Jan bring to
> >> >> >> > > international students
> and for
> >> blind individuals in
> >> >> >> > under developed
> >> >> >> > > countries.
> >> >> >> > > During the Inter
> Cultural
> >> Exchange Committee meeting,
> >> >> >> > Buna Dahal, one of the
> >> >> >> > > co-founders of Blind
> Core did a
> >> presentation on Blind
> >> >> >> > Cor and as I mentioned
> >> >> >> > > to the group 
> sometime ago
> >> on the discussion that
> >> >> >> > maybe this can be one of
> >> >> >> > > our adopted projects.
> >> >> >> > > I actually met the
> young lady
> >> from Japan whom you were
> >> >> >> > refering to at the
> >> >> >> > > Travel and Tureism
> chapter
> >> meeting. To be quite
> >> >> >> > honest, she provided me
> with
> >> >> >> > > her contact
> information and I
> >> accidently deleted it so
> >> >> >> > if it would be
> >> >> >> > > possible for you to
> get her
> >> contact information and
> >> >> >> > email me off list I
> >> >> >> > > would really
> appreciate it.
> >> >> >> > > This brings up another
> idea!
> >> Maybe we could advertise
> >> >> >> > with the Travel and
> >> >> >> > > Tureism group and send
> out a
> >> flyer on their list
> >> >> >> > serve. I am pretty sure
> >> >> >> > > there would be members
> in this
> >> group who would love to
> >> >> >> > connect with
> >> >> >> > > international students
> and
> >> possibley do some
> >> >> >> > international development
> >> >> >> > > project.
> >> >> >> > > I am glad you brought
> the point
> >> about starting a
> >> >> >> > special interest
> >> >> >> > > international division
> within
> >> NFB. I think we would
> >> >> >> > have more supporters
> >> >> >> > > then not. As you
> mentioned that
> >> most people would
> >> >> >> > enthusiastically support
> >> >> >> > > us and this is true
> and these
> >> people would also bring
> >> >> >> > our group value. My
> >> >> >> > > vision is that our
> group
> >> would consist of
> >> >> >> > international students,
> people
> >> >> >> > > who care deeply about
> >> international students such as
> >> >> >> > yourself and Jan and
> >> >> >> > > Americans who are
> interested in
> >> travel abroad eather
> >> >> >> > for studies or just
> >> >> >> > > travel or are
> interested in
> >> making international
> >> >> >> > friends. I think we would
> >> >> >> > > also have alot of
> second
> >> generation US citizens
> >> >> >> > meaning those who are
> >> >> >> > > naturalized  US
> citizens.
> >> I met a person who was a
> >> >> >> > naturalized  US citizen
> >> >> >> > > but said he will
> always be
> >> international in heart.
> >> >> >> > > In addition, we would
> have
> >> supportors who may not
> >> >> >> > Necessarily  be active
> >> >> >> > > with our group,  but
> would
> >> be supportors  of our
> >> >> >> > cause. As you mentioned,
> >> >> >> > > there will certainly
> be a few
> >> who would be hostile to
> >> >> >> > our cause and
> >> >> >> > > existence but these
> will be
> >> few. One thing I have
> >> >> >> > learned in more then 20
> >> >> >> > > years of living in the
> United
> >> States is that people
> >> >> >> > who are hostile towards
> >> >> >> > > international students
> and
> >> people who are not lucky
> >> >> >> > enough to be US citizens
> >> >> >> > > are usually the same
> people who
> >> hold negative attitude
> >> >> >> > towards many things
> >> >> >> > > including blindness
> and are
> >> usually the people who are
> >> >> >> > self serving meaning
> >> >> >> > > only think about what
> is best
> >> for them. I have learned
> >> >> >> > through experience
> >> >> >> > > that it is best just
> to ignore
> >> these people.
> >> >> >> > > As you mentioned the
> benefit a
> >> organized special
> >> >> >> > interest  group for us is
> >> >> >> > > that it would allow us
> to have
> >> a leadership structure,
> >> >> >> > allow us to open up a
> >> >> >> > > bank account and allow
> us to
> >> rais funds.
> >> >> >> > > I like the idea of
> writing up a
> >> one page add and
> >> >> >> > distribute it to various
> >> >> >> > > groups and anywhere
> else we may
> >> be able to recruit. My
> >> >> >> > suggestion is that we
> >> >> >> > > have a conference call
> maybe as
> >> soon  as this
> >> >> >> > weekend to discuss the
> content
> >> >> >> > > of the add and
> brainstorm of
> >> places where we could
> >> >> >> > advertise. Any thoughts?
> >> >> >> > > Jim you brought up
> another
> >> advantage of our group and
> >> >> >> > this list. Amazing how
> >> >> >> > > ideas pop up in one's
> mind!
> >> When you mentioned that
> >> >> >> > you were Hina's pen-pal,
> >> >> >> > > it occured to me that
> this
> >> group would be excellent
> >> >> >> > place to build pen-pal
> >> >> >> > > relationships with
> blind
> >> individuals in other
> >> >> >> > countries. To be quite
> frank a
> >> >> >> > > teacher at the
> Arkansas School
> >> for the Blind
> >> >> >> > encouraged me to find a
> pen-pal
> >> >> >> > > but I was simply just
> to lazy
> >> to do it. This were the
> >> >> >> > days of writing and
> >> >> >> > > mailing the letter
> before the
> >> days of email and
> >> >> >> > internet. Amazing how
> >> >> >> > > technology has changed
> even
> >> with communicating with
> >> >> >> > pen-pal!
> >> >> >> > > Anyways, Jim welcome
> to the
> >> list and please give
> >> >> >> > Robbert Lesliy Newman our
> >> >> >> > > best regard and wish
> him
> >> speady  recovery.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > sincerely,
> >> >> >> > > Anmol
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > I seldom think about
> my
> >> limitations, and they never
> >> >> >> > make me sad. Perhaps
> >> >> >> > > there is just a touch
> of
> >> yearning at times; but it is
> >> >> >> > vague, like a breeze
> >> >> >> > > among flowers.
> >> >> >> > > Hellen Keller
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > --- On Mon, 8/2/10,
> James H.
> >> "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR
> >> >> >> > <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> >> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> From: James H.
> "Jim"
> >> Canaday M.A. N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com>
> >> >> >> > >> Subject:
> >> [Blind-international-students]
> >> >> >> > introducing myself and
> comments on
> >> >> >> > >> your discussion
> >> >> >> > >> To: "Blind
> International
> >> Students Mailing List"
> >> >> >> > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> >> > >> Date: Monday,
> August 2,
> >> 2010, 7:53 PM
> >> >> >> > >> Hello members of
> the Blind
> >> >> >> > >> Internationals nfb
> list;
> >> >> >> > >> I am Jim
> Canaday.  I
> >> am the president of the
> >> >> >> > Jayhawk
> >> >> >> > >> chapter of the NFB
> of
> >> kansas, here in Lawrence
> >> >> >> > (where Kansas
> >> >> >> > >> University is
> >> located).  I am also active with
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > >> writers division
> of NFB.
> >> >> >> > >> I'll give more of
> an
> >> introduction later down this
> >> >> >> > e-mail.
> >> >> >> > >> > I have been
> delighted
> >> that nfb  supported
> >> >> >> > this effort
> >> >> >> > >> by providing the
> list for
> >> internationals.  I
> >> >> >> > care
> >> >> >> > >> deeply about
> blind
> >> international students who are
> >> >> >> > here in
> >> >> >> > >> the U.S.  I am
> also
> >> quite concerned about
> >> >> >> > conditions
> >> >> >> > >> for most blind
> people in
> >> the world.  I know very
> >> >> >> > well
> >> >> >> > >> in my heart that
> blind
> >> people have it much better
> >> >> >> > here than
> >> >> >> > >> in most of the
> world and
> >> that means that we have a
> >> >> >> > serious
> >> >> >> > >> responsibility.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> Robert Leslie
> Newman,
> >> president of the writers
> >> >> >> > division and
> >> >> >> > >> active member of
> Blind
> >> Corps is currently in the
> >> >> >> > hospital,
> >> >> >> > >> he lives in
> nebraska.
> >> he cares deeply and works
> >> >> >> > >> diligently to
> bring the nfb
> >> philosophy of
> >> >> >> > orientation and
> >> >> >> > >> mobility to other
> countries
> >> through blind corps;
> >> >> >> > they
> >> >> >> > >> go teach the
> teachers
> >> primarily.  that  way
> >> >> >> > other
> >> >> >> > >> countries can
> train their
> >> own blind people.
> >> >> >> > >> also from nebraska
> is Fetos
> >> Floyd who grew to
> >> >> >> > adulthood in
> >> >> >> > >> Turkey.  she is
> I
> >> believe the head of the
> >> >> >> > nebraska
> >> >> >> > >> center for the
> blind where
> >> training takes place
> >> >> >> > and she
> >> >> >> > >> participates in
> blind corps
> >> too.
> >> >> >> > >> robert and fetos
> and
> >> several others recently
> >> >> >> > returned from
> >> >> >> > >> their second trip
> to
> >> turkey.  it seems that the
> >> >> >> > program
> >> >> >> > >> in turkey is doing
> very
> >> well.  I believe that all
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > >> the members of
> Blind Corps
> >> are members of NFB.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I have
> communicated with
> >> officers of NABS about
> >> >> >> > this group
> >> >> >> > >> recently, and
> several
> >> months ago.  there is an
> >> >> >> > >> international grad
> student
> >> here in my chapter and
> >> >> >> > I have
> >> >> >> > >> told her of this
> >> list.  I cannot tell you why she
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > >> hesitant to join.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> it's really great
> to see
> >> the activity on this list
> >> >> >> > increase
> >> >> >> > >> so
> >> much!   blind people often experience
> >> >> >> > >> isolation.  I
> think
> >> that may often be worse for
> >> >> >> > blind
> >> >> >> > >> international
> students who
> >> come here to study.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> if I can give a
> little
> >> advice,
> >> >> >> > >> I believe that
> >> international students and
> >> >> >> > internationals in
> >> >> >> > >> the U.S. should
> actually
> >> have their own division
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > >> NFB.  you are at
> the
> >> beginning of this process.
> >> >> >> > >> or you are at the
> beginning
> >> of becoming a special
> >> >> >> > interest
> >> >> >> > >> group.  as a
> division
> >> you will get more attention
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > >> have more impact
> on
> >> others.  it takes time to
> >> >> >> > build a
> >> >> >> > >> group, organize
> and form a
> >> division.  and your
> >> >> >> > >> experience is
> actually
> >> typical.  yes some people
> >> >> >> > may be
> >> >> >> > >> put off by your
> being
> >> internationals, but most
> >> >> >> > will
> >> >> >> > >> not.  some
> >> people  will be put off by the fact
> >> >> >> > >> that I am from
> kansas,
> >> too.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> Divisions start
> from the
> >> ground up most often.
> >> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> > >> have taken steps
> >> already like other groups did:
> >> >> >> > >> forming
> communication
> >> within yourselves; defining
> >> >> >> > your
> >> >> >> > >> identity and your
> >> interests; and forming goals.
> >> >> >> > I hope
> >> >> >> > >> you might find in
> your
> >> hearts some patience with
> >> >> >> > the rest of
> >> >> >> > >> us in the
> federation, as we
> >> are all human too.
> >> >> >> > some of
> >> >> >> > >> us will
> enthusiastically
> >> work with internationals,
> >> >> >> > many will
> >> >> >> > >> be shy or busy
> with other
> >> interests, and a few
> >> >> >> > will be truly
> >> >> >> > >> hostile.  please
> don't
> >> let the few bad people put
> >> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> > >> off.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> more advice.
> >> >> >> > >> maybe you all have
> done
> >> this but I have not seen
> >> >> >> > it.
> >> >> >> > >> you are now in the
> stage of
> >> getting interested
> >> >> >> > people
> >> >> >> > >> together for your
> >> organization.  a very simple
> >> >> >> > thing
> >> >> >> > >> you can do in this
> is to
> >> write a direct one page
> >> >> >> > >> statement.  your
> >> organization's statement should
> >> >> >> > give
> >> >> >> > >> your tentative
> name, your
> >> e-mail list info for
> >> >> >> > subscribing,
> >> >> >> > >> who you are, what
> your
> >> interests are, and who you
> >> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > >> looking for as
> new
> >> members.  and any other
> >> >> >> > contact
> >> >> >> > >> information that
> would be
> >> useful.  your statement
> >> >> >> > then
> >> >> >> > >> can be easily
> posted to
> >> groups, and people can
> >> >> >> > forward it
> >> >> >> > >> along.  you will
> have
> >> a single  presentation
> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> > >> you all have
> agreed on that
> >> represents you.
> >> >> >> > your
> >> >> >> > >> statement also can
> go into
> >> the Braille Monitor.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> to get this
> statement
> >> together, you need to first
> >> >> >> > decide
> >> >> >> > >> what your goals
> and
> >> interests are.  think of who
> >> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> > >> are looking for
> as
> >> potential members.  and, you
> >> >> >> > can
> >> >> >> > >> consider how to
> put your
> >> group's presentation
> >> >> >> > together from
> >> >> >> > >> those decisions. 
> I
> >> would not presume to suggest
> >> >> >> > to you
> >> >> >> > >> what these should
> be.
> >> but if you have a unified
> >> >> >> > >> message, and one
> that is
> >> very easily distributed,
> >> >> >> > it is very
> >> >> >> > >> powerful.  there
> are
> >> people you want in your
> >> >> >> > group who
> >> >> >> > >> may have to hear
> about it
> >> two or more times before
> >> >> >> > they
> >> >> >> > >> reach out to you.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I believe strongly
> in NFB,
> >> and I also know that
> >> >> >> > >> internationals
> are
> >> wonderful people who also teach
> >> >> >> > the rest
> >> >> >> > >> of us much.  so I
> very
> >> strongly hope that you
> >> >> >> > will work
> >> >> >> > >> within NFB.  NFB
> has
> >> great resources you will
> >> >> >> > find
> >> >> >> > >> helpful.  it also
> has
> >> a wonderful network of
> >> >> >> > >> people.  NFB will
> be
> >> much better with you in it.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> though you do not
> have a
> >> formal organization now,
> >> >> >> > it would
> >> >> >> > >> be worth
> investigating
> >> forming one.  that way you
> >> >> >> > can
> >> >> >> > >> designate officers
> and have
> >> a bank account.
> >> >> >> > also,
> >> >> >> > >> others will see
> you are
> >> serious by taking these
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> steps.   again, many other divisions and
> >> >> >> > >> special interest
> groups
> >> have done the same
> >> >> >> > thing.  and
> >> >> >> > >> most started with
> very
> >> little if any push or
> >> >> >> > support from
> >> >> >> > >> NFB national
> >> leadership.  there are at least two
> >> >> >> > other
> >> >> >> > >> nfb groups I
> could
> >> participate with, but I do not
> >> >> >> > have the
> >> >> >> > >> time or energy to
> join in
> >> with them.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> if you look at the
> writers
> >> division website
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> www.nfb-writers-division.org
> >> >> >> > >> you will see that
> we have a
> >> very good website.
> >> >> >> > this
> >> >> >> > >> is also provided
> by the
> >> national organization.
> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> > >> they did not
> provide such
> >> things for the writers
> >> >> >> > division
> >> >> >> > >> until it was
> organized and
> >> functioning.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> enough advice?
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> *I am here because
> of
> >> Hina.  five years and a
> >> >> >> > month
> >> >> >> > >> ago, I wrote to
> her in
> >> Pakistan, and I was
> >> >> >> > incredibly
> >> >> >> > >> fortunate to be
> her pen
> >> pal.  she is a dear
> >> >> >> > friend of
> >> >> >> > >> mine.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> the M.A. after my
> name is
> >> in clinical psychology,
> >> >> >> > and I
> >> >> >> > >> completed the
> practicum as
> >> a student
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> therapist.   I earned the degree at kansas
> >> >> >> > >> university in
> 1991, with no
> >> help from kansas
> >> >> >> > >> university.  K.U.
> has
> >> a sad long history of not
> >> >> >> > >> properly providing
> services
> >> for blind students.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I grew up in rural
> central
> >> california so I am
> >> >> >> > curious about
> >> >> >> > >> where Miso
> lives.  I
> >> was completely blind from
> >> >> >> > age 13,
> >> >> >> > >> and partial
> before
> >> that.  my bachelor's degree is
> >> >> >> > from
> >> >> >> > >> the university of
> >> california at davis.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I am married and
> have no
> >> children.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I hope I can help
> this
> >> group to grow and
> >> >> >> > flourish.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> jc
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> At 04:48 PM
> 8/2/2010, you
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > Hello,
> >> >> >> > >> > Jan if you
> will recall
> >> one of the co-founders
> >> >> >> > of Blind
> >> >> >> > >> Core was from
> Turkey and is
> >> I believe the director
> >> >> >> > of VR in
> >> >> >> > >> Nebraska. However,
> do not
> >> quote me on this. I do
> >> >> >> > not agree
> >> >> >> > >> about bringing
> NFB
> >> philosophy to my country but a
> >> >> >> > philosophy
> >> >> >> > >> which promotes
> possitive
> >> attitude about blindness
> >> >> >> > and a can
> >> >> >> > >> do attitude. Just
> my two
> >> sense .
> >> >> >> > >> > Anmol
> >> >> >> > >> > I seldom
> think about
> >> my limitations, and they
> >> >> >> > never
> >> >> >> > >> make me sad.
> Perhaps there
> >> is just a touch of
> >> >> >> > yearning at
> >> >> >> > >> times; but it is
> vague,
> >> like a breeze among
> >> >> >> > flowers.
> >> >> >> > >> > Hellen
> Keller
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > --- On Mon,
> 8/2/10,
> >> Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> >> >> >> > >> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> >> >> >> > >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > > From:
> Reyazuddin,
> >> Yasmin
> >> >> >> > >> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> >> >> >> > >> > > Subject:
> Re:
> >> >> >> >
> [Blind-international-students]
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> [Blind-international-students introduction
> >> >> >> > >> > > To:
> "Blind
> >> International Students
> >> >> >> > Mailing List"
> >> >> >> > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> >> > >> > > Date:
> Monday,
> >> August 2, 2010, 3:42 PM
> >> >> >> > >> > > Hi Hena
> and all
> >> >> >> > >> > > Once
> again, we
> >> need to communicate with
> >> >> >> > Ron Brown
> >> >> >> > >> and see
> >> >> >> > >> > > if he
> will
> >> support us. Also if some of
> >> >> >> > you will
> >> >> >> > >> remember
> >> >> >> > >> > > there
> was a group
> >> of blind
> >> >> >> > federationists who
> >> >> >> > >> went to Turkey
> >> >> >> > >> > > to teach
> the
> >> blind professionals there.
> >> >> >> > May be we
> >> >> >> > >> need to
> >> >> >> > >> > > talk
> with Robert
> >> Leslie Newman from
> >> >> >> > Nebraska who
> >> >> >> > >> did the
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> program.
> >> >> >> > >> > > The NFB
> has send
> >> out people to other
> >> >> >> > countries
> >> >> >> > >> for teaching
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> federation
> >> philosophy.
> >> >> >> > >> > > We who
> get
> >> trained here need to go back
> >> >> >> > to our
> >> >> >> > >> home country
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> >> >> >> >
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> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> >
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> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > hi jan,
> >> >> >> > >> > >  yes
> that is
> >> why i started this list
> >> >> >> > and had
> >> >> >> > >> philip help me
> >> >> >> > >> > > as co
> >> >> >> > >> > > founder.
> buna is
> >> on the list but she
> >> >> >> > never said
> >> >> >> > >> anything.
> >> >> >> > >> > > she is
> a
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> wonderful person
> >> but i think if she
> >> >> >> > wanted to do
> >> >> >> > >> anything
> >> >> >> > >> > > for
> this
> >> >> >> > >> > > list or
> >> international students, she
> >> >> >> > would have
> >> >> >> > >> said
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> something by now
> >> >> >> > >> > > or
> before. but i
> >> am not sure how to
> >> >> >> > respond to
> >> >> >> > >> this since
> >> >> >> > >> > > she
> never
> >> >> >> > >> > > spoke
> much in the
> >> list and i know she
> >> >> >> > was in the
> >> >> >> > >> list since
> >> >> >> > >> > > she did
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> communicate with
> >> me long time ago.
> >> >> >> > >> > > so that
> is my
> >> question, does nfb
> >> >> >> > officials want
> >> >> >> > >> to get
> >> >> >> > >> > > involve
> with
> >> >> >> > >> > > helping
> >> internationals and people in
> >> >> >> > under
> >> >> >> > >> developed
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> countries? that
> >> >> >> > >> > > is
> something i
> >> can not answer and most
> >> >> >> > nfb
> >> >> >> > >> officials are
> >> >> >> > >> > > quiet on
> this
> >> >> >> > >> > > list and
> some
> >> don't even respond.
> >> >> >> > >> > > hina.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > On
> 8/2/10,
> >> Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> >> >> >> > >> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > > > Hi
> Jan,
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> Good
> >> observation.
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> Most of the
> >> time the international
> >> >> >> > people
> >> >> >> > >> are the
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> underserved as
> >> they are
> >> >> >> > >> > > > (we
> are) not
> >> included in or
> >> >> >> > promoted other
> >> >> >> > >> than being
> >> >> >> > >> > > a
> member.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > If
> we move
> >> forward and become
> >> >> >> > leaders other
> >> >> >> > >> (majority)
> >> >> >> > >> > > do not
> like it.
> >> I
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> know it from
> >> my personal
> >> >> >> > experience.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > I
> have to
> >> thank the scholarship
> >> >> >> > committee
> >> >> >> > >> this year as
> >> >> >> > >> > > there
> were many
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> >> international students who won the
> >> >> >> > >> scholarships. If
> we
> >> >> >> > >> > > could
> have the
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> students
> >> participate and become
> >> >> >> > leaders in
> >> >> >> > >> their own
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> communities we
> >> will not
> >> >> >> > >> > > > be
> >> underserved or impoverished.
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> Yasmin
> >> Reyazuddin
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> Aging &
> >> Disability services
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> Montgomery
> >> County Government
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> Department
> >> of Health & human
> >> >> >> > Services
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> 401
> >> Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
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> >> 20850
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> 240-777-0311
> >> (MC311)
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
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> >> (personal)
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
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> >> >> >> > >> > > On
> Behalf Of jan
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> wright
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> Sent:
> >> Monday, August 02, 2010 3:52
> >> >> >> > PM
> >> >> >> > >> > > > To:
> Blind
> >> International Students
> >> >> >> > Mailing
> >> >> >> > >> List
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> Subject:
> >> Re:
> >> >> >> >
> [Blind-international-students]
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >
> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > > Hi
> Yasmin,
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> That is an
> >> interesting thought.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > I
> know Ron
> >> and I am sure that he
> >> >> >> > would be
> >> >> >> > >> open to the
> >> >> >> > >> > > idea.
> >> >> >> > >> > > > My
> only
> >> question is:
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> Since
> >> "underserved,"   has a
> >> >> >> > >> broader
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> application than
> >> "international
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> students,"
> >> do you think that the
> >> >> >> > >> international
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> community will be
> >> ....
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> .... last to
> >> receive support?
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> Just a
> >> question.
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> Honestly, I
> >> am not certain, but it
> >> >> >> > doesn't
> >> >> >> > >> seem that
> >> >> >> > >> > > this
> group is
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> getting much
> >> notice in the NFB, as
> >> >> >> > it is.
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> Anmol had
> >> some great ideas!
> >> >> >> > >> > > > We
> should
> >> not let them pass as
> >> >> >> > ideas only.
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> Jan
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > > On
> 8/2/10,
> >> hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
> what is
> >> the goal of that group
> >> >> >> > yasmin?
> >> >> >> > >> we can do
> >> >> >> > >> > > it but i
> would
> >> like
> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
> to know
> >> more about that group
> >> >> >> > first. and
> >> >> >> > >> then you
> >> >> >> > >> > > can send
> the
> >> email.
> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
> how is
> >> it going to help us in
> >> >> >> > starting a
> >> >> >> > >> project
> >> >> >> > >> > > to help
> people
> >> in
> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
> under
> >> developed countries?
> >> >> >> > thanks.
> >> >> >> > >> hina.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>
> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
> On
> >> 8/2/10, Reyazuddin, Yasmin
> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
> <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>> Hi
> >> Hena, and all:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>> I
> >> will suggest that we
> >> >> >> > consider
> >> >> >> > >> combining two
> >> >> >> > >> > > groups
> into one
> >> and getting
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>> what
> >> we need. The cultural
> >> >> >> > exchange
> >> >> >> > >> group
> >> >> >> > >> > > should
> join
> >> forces with the
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> committee to empower
> >> >> >> > underserved
> >> >> >> > >> population.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>> The
> >> goals are similar and
> >> >> >> > then we
> >> >> >> > >> will also
> >> >> >> > >> > > have the
> support
> >> of the
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> national
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> office. I can start the
> >> >> >> > process by
> >> >> >> > >> sending an
> >> >> >> > >> > > email to
> Ron
> >> Brown who is
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>> the
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> president of Indiana.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>> We
> >> have a meeting every
> >> >> >> > year and can
> >> >> >> > >> do more
> >> >> >> > >> > > that
> way.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> Yasmin Reyazuddin
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> Aging & Disability
> >> >> >> > services
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> Montgomery County
> >> >> >> > Government
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> Department of Health &
> >> >> >> > human
> >> >> >> > >> Services
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>> 401
> >> Hungerford Drive (3rd
> >> >> >> > floor)
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> Rockville MD 20850
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> 240-777-0311 (MC311)
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> 240-777-1556 (personal)
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> 240-777-1495 (fax)
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> office hours 8:30 am 5:00
> >> >> >> > pm
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> Languages English, Hindi,
> >> >> >> > Urdu,
> >> >> >> > >> Braille
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>> This
> >> message may contain
> >> >> >> > protected
> >> >> >> > >> health
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> information or
> >> other
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> information
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>> that
> >> is confidential or
> >> >> >> > privileged.
> >> >> >> > >> If you are
> >> >> >> > >> > > not the
> intended
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> recipient,
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> please contact the sender
> >> >> >> > by return
> >> >> >> > >> mail and
> >> >> >> > >> > > destroy
> any
> >> copies of this
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >> >> >> > >> > > On
> Behalf Of
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> hina
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> altaf
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> Sent: Monday, August 02,
> >> >> >> > 2010 1:38
> >> >> >> > >> PM
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>> To:
> >> Blind International
> >> >> >> > Students
> >> >> >> > >> Mailing List
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> Subject: Re:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >
> >>
> [Blind-international-students][Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>> hi
> >> anmol,
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>  i agree with you and
> >> >> >> > that's
> >> >> >> > >> what we
> >> >> >> > >> > > tried
> last year
> >> without much
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> success. i think on this
> >> >> >> > issue i
> >> >> >> > >> need to talk
> >> >> >> > >> > > to you
> either on
> >> the
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> phone or online. there are
> >> >> >> > a lot of
> >> >> >> > >> issues and
> >> >> >> > >> > > things
> that i
> >> don't
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>> feel
> >> comfortable discussing
> >> >> >> > on nfb
> >> >> >> > >> mailing
> >> >> >> > >> > > list due
> to some
> >> reasons
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> which i think we can talk
> >> >> >> > off list.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> hina.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>> On
> >> 8/2/10, Anmol Bhatia
> >> >> >> > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> Hello Jan and Hina,
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> Due to reasons which I
> >> >> >> > do not
> >> >> >> > >> want to
> >> >> >> > >> > > mention
> on the
> >> list I do not think
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> our
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> list would get much
> >> >> >> > >> advertisement from
> the
> >> >> >> > >> > > NFB
> officials. So
> >> this means
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> that
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> more then likely we
> >> >> >> > will have to
> >> >> >> > >> self
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> advertise.
> >> Personally I have been
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> advertising through
> >> >> >> > word of
> >> >> >> > >> mouth telling
> >> >> >> > >> > > my
> friends or
> >> anyone who may
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> be
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> interested in joining
> >> >> >> > or is
> >> >> >> > >> interested in
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> international
> >> issues. Also
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> maybe
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> someone can write a
> >> >> >> > article for
> >> >> >> > >> Mobility
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> International USA
> >> (MIUSA)
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> www.miusa.org
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> and it would be
> >> >> >> > published on
> >> >> >> > >> their
> >> >> >> > >> > > webcite.
> It is a
> >> non-profit
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> organization
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> which works on
> >> >> >> > international
> >> >> >> > >> development
> >> >> >> > >> > > for
> people with
> >> disabilities in
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> other countries and
> >> >> >> > also
> >> >> >> > >> promotes
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> international
> >> travel for individuals
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> with
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> disabilities. Some
> >> >> >> > things they
> >> >> >> > >> do is to
> >> >> >> > >> > > promote
> study
> >> abroad
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> opportunities
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> for students with
> >> >> >> > disabilities
> >> >> >> > >> and
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> leadership
> >> trainings for individuals
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> with
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> disabilities. I would
> >> >> >> > encourage
> >> >> >> > >> you to
> >> >> >> > >> > > visit
> their
> >> webcite and maybe
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> sign
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> up
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> for their news letter.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> Also we may want to
> >> >> >> > consider
> >> >> >> > >> sending a
> >> >> >> > >> > > blerb to
> various
> >> list serves that
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> we
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> are on to let people
> >> >> >> > know that
> >> >> >> > >> there is a
> >> >> >> > >> > > list
> serve for
> >> international
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> students and for anyone
> >> >> >> > who
> >> >> >> > >> wants to
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> communicate with
> >> international
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> students
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> or is interested in
> >> >> >> > learning
> >> >> >> > >> about study
> >> >> >> > >> > > abroad
> or
> >> volunteer
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> opportunities
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> abroad. Also someone
> >> >> >> > could write
> >> >> >> > >> a article
> >> >> >> > >> > > for the
> Student
> >> Slate (a news
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> letter sponsored by the
> >> >> >> > NABS "a
> >> >> >> > >> student
> >> >> >> > >> > > chapter
> of the
> >> NFB") September
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> issue. I would
> >> >> >> > volunteer to do
> >> >> >> > >> this but I
> >> >> >> > >> > > am
> already
> >> writing couple of
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> articles so it may be a
> >> >> >> > bit to
> >> >> >> > >> much.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> The list is on the NFB
> >> >> >> > >> discussion list.
> >> >> >> > >> > > Infact
> >> thats how I learned
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> about
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> it, but most people do
> >> >> >> > not think
> >> >> >> > >> about
> >> >> >> > >> > > going to
> the
> >> discussion list page
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> and
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> therefore are not aware
> >> >> >> > of it.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> Also I think having
> >> >> >> > regular
> >> >> >> > >> conference
> >> >> >> > >> > > calls
> and some
> >> fun activities
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> will
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> help generate interest
> >> >> >> > in the
> >> >> >> > >> group.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> Just some thoughts.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> Anmol
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> I seldom think about
> >> >> >> > my
> >> >> >> > >> limitations, and
> >> >> >> > >> > > they
> never make
> >> me sad. Perhaps
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> there is just a touch
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > >> yearning at
> >> >> >> > >> > > times;
> but it is
> >> vague, like a
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> breeze
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> among flowers.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> Hellen Keller
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> --- On Mon, 8/2/10,
> >> >> >> > hina altaf
> >> >> >> > >> <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >>>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> From: hina altaf
> >> >> >> > <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> Subject: Re:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> [Blind-international-students]
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> >
> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> To: "Blind
> >> >> >> > International
> >> >> >> > >> Students
> >> >> >> > >> > > Mailing
> List"
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> Date: Monday,
> >> >> >> > August 2,
> >> >> >> > >> 2010, 12:03
> >> >> >> > >> > > PM
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> i contacted Diane
> >> >> >> > >> McGeorge  last
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> year as well about
> >> >> >> > our group
> >> >> >> > >> but
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> never got any
> >> >> >> > reply. well
> >> >> >> > >> where do you
> >> >> >> > >> > > want to
> >> advertise
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> the group?
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> last year i and
> >> >> >> > philip got
> >> >> >> > >> an offer to
> >> >> >> > >> > > do a
> radio show
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> about our group
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> but we did not do
> >> >> >> > due to
> >> >> >> > >> some reason
> >> >> >> > >> > > that we
> discussed
> >> off
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> list. but
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> that is something
> >> >> >> > we could
> >> >> >> > >> still
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> consider. hina.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> On 8/2/10, jan
> >> >> >> > wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > Hi Anmol,
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > Tell us about
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > >> conference in
> >> >> >> > >> > > DC.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > That sounds
> >> >> >> > >> interesting.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > Yes, I forgot
> >> >> >> > about the
> >> >> >> > >> world
> >> >> >> > >> > > Blind
> Union.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > I went to
> >> >> >> > their site in
> >> >> >> > >> hopes to
> >> >> >> > >> > > join:
> but I am
> >> not
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> part of an
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > organization
> >> >> >> > and I
> >> >> >> > >> think that you
> >> >> >> > >> > > have to
> have lots
> >> of
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> money to join.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > Or, you have
> >> >> >> > to be part
> >> >> >> > >> of a
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> blindness
> >> organization.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > Well, Anmol, I
> >> >> >> > forgot
> >> >> >> > >> about the
> >> >> >> > >> > > blind
> corps
> >> also.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > I found this
> >> >> >> > quite
> >> >> >> > >> interesting.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > I'd like to
> >> >> >> > know more
> >> >> >> > >> about it
> >> >> >> > >> > > and if
> we could
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> contribute in some
> >> >> >> > type of
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > way.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > Yes, I would
> >> >> >> > be willing
> >> >> >> > >> to hear
> >> >> >> > >> > > this
> woman speak
> >> on a
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> conference call.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > I have a
> >> >> >> > meeting on
> >> >> >> > >> Tuesday, but
> >> >> >> > >> > > the
> other days
> >> are
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> free for me.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > I have emailed
> >> >> >> > Diane
> >> >> >> > >> McGeorge
> >> >> >> > >> > > about
> this group
> >> and she
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> has not gotten
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > back with me.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > So, I guess we
> >> >> >> > will
> >> >> >> > >> have to
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> advertise
> >> ourselves.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > If we can get
> >> >> >> > a good
> >> >> >> > >> description
> >> >> >> > >> > > about
> our group
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> together,  then
> >> >> >> > we
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > can send it to
> >> >> >> > our
> >> >> >> > >> divisions and
> >> >> >> > >> > > state
> presidents
> >> for
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> them to
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > distribute.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > Hey, Hina, you
> >> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > >> moderator of
> >> >> >> > >> > > the
> group:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > What do you
> >> >> >> > think?
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > I don't know,
> >> >> >> > any
> >> >> >> > >> thoughts?
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> > On 8/2/10,
> >> >> >> > Imran Ahmed
> >> >> >> > >> <imran.altaf at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >> What
> >> >> >> > platform are
> >> >> >> > >> you using
> >> >> >> > >> > > to host
> the
> >> conference
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> calls? Please
> >> >> >> > share
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >> the
> >> >> >> > necessary
> >> >> >> > >> details so that
> >> >> >> > >> > > all who
> are
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> interested, can
> >> >> >> > participate
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >> in the
> >> >> >> > conference
> >> >> >> > >> call.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >> Imran.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >> On 8/2/10,
> >> >> >> > hina
> >> >> >> > >> altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>> hi
> >> >> >> > anmol,
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>  yes
> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> > >> is great idea
> >> >> >> > >> > > to
> involve more
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> people an d
> >> >> >> > organizations
> >> >> >> > >> who
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>> might
> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> > >> interested to
> >> >> >> > >> > > help
> people from
> >> under
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> developed
> >> >> >> > countries.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>> buna
> >> >> >> > is also on
> >> >> >> > >> the list,
> >> >> >> > >> > > i met
> her last
> >> year
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> and she is a very
> >> >> >> > nice
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>> lady
> >> >> >> > who is
> >> >> >> > >> very
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> successfull in
> >> overcoming
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> challenges that she
> >> >> >> > had
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>> being
> >> >> >> > someone
> >> >> >> > >> from under
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> developed
> >> countries.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> how did your
> >> >> >> > conference
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>> go? i
> >> >> >> > wish i
> >> >> >> > >> could have
> >> >> >> > >> > > been
> able to make
> >> it
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> but due to some
> >> >> >> > issues i
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>> was
> >> >> >> > not able to
> >> >> >> > >> attend
> >> >> >> > >> > > although
> i
> >> qualified.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> also i think we
> >> >> >> > should
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>> focuss
> >> >> >> > on
> >> >> >> > >> starting one
> >> >> >> > >> > > project
> at a time
> >> and
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> discuss first what
> >> >> >> > we
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>> want
> >> >> >> > to do. but
> >> >> >> > >> i will be
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> interested in
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> conference call and
> >> >> >> > if we
> >> >> >> > >> can
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>> get
> >> >> >> > some ideas
> >> >> >> > >> from the
> >> >> >> > >> > > members
> as well
> >> as
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> from some people
> >> >> >> > who are
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >> >> > already serving
> >> >> >> > >> under
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> developed
> >> countries in
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> some ways. thanks.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>> hina
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>> On
> >> >> >> > 8/1/10,
> >> >> >> > >> Anmol Bhatia
> >> >> >> > >> > > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > Hello Jan
> >> >> >> > >> and all,
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > Sorry it
> >> >> >> > >> has taken me
> >> >> >> > >> > > a while
> to
> >> respond.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> I was in Washington
> >> >> >> > D.C.
> >> >> >> > >> last
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > week
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > for the
> >> >> >> > >> National
> >> >> >> > >> > > Council
> on
> >> Disability
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> Summit and got kind
> >> >> >> > of busy
> >> >> >> > >> since
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > returning.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > Jan you did
> >> >> >> > >> pretty
> >> >> >> > >> > > good
> job
> >> summarizing
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> what happened at
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > >> meeting,
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > you for got
> >> >> >> > >> about the
> >> >> >> > >> > > World
> Blind
> >> Union.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> Dr. Shroder (NFB's
> >> >> >> > first
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > >> vice-president)
> who
> >> >> >> > >> > > is
> active in the
> >> World
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> Blind Union told us
> >> >> >> > about
> >> >> >> > >> the
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > World Blind
> >> >> >> > >> Union and
> >> >> >> > >> > > what it
> does.
> >> Also
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> Buna Dahal told us
> >> >> >> > about
> >> >> >> > >> her
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > experience
> >> >> >> > >> about
> >> >> >> > >> > > growing
> in Nepal
> >> as the
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> only person in her
> >> >> >> > family
> >> >> >> > >> who
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > blind and
> >> >> >> > >> some of the
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> challenges she
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> faced. She also
> >> >> >> > told us
> >> >> >> > >> about the
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > Blind
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > Core (like
> >> >> >> > >> the Peace
> >> >> >> > >> > > Core)
> except a
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> organization which
> >> >> >> > serves
> >> >> >> > >> blind
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > people.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > Perhaps
> >> >> >> > >> this can be
> >> >> >> > >> > > one of
> our
> >> adopted
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> project that we as
> >> >> >> > a group
> >> >> >> > >> of
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > interested
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> Federationest who
> >> are
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> interested in help
> >> >> >> > blind
> >> >> >> > >> kids in less
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > developed
> >> >> >> > >> countries
> >> >> >> > >> > > can work
> with.
> >> Also
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> last week I met a
> >> >> >> > lady who
> >> >> >> > >> is
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > doing
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > some work
> >> >> >> > >> in
> >> >> >> > >> > > Ecuador
> to train
> >> and assist
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> the disabled
> >> >> >> > population
> >> >> >> > >> there.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>> I
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > am
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > thinking
> >> >> >> > >> about
> >> >> >> > >> > > holding
> a
> >> conference call
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> next weekend so
> >> >> >> > that the
> >> >> >> > >> lady
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > who
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>> I
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > met can
> >> >> >> > >> tell us about
> >> >> >> > >> > > her work
> and
> >> what
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> she does. If I held
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > >> conference
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > call would
> >> >> >> > >> you
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > >> attend?
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > Also Jan I
> >> >> >> > >> actually
> >> >> >> > >> > > thought
> about
> >> this
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> mailing list at the
> >> >> >> > meeting,
> >> >> >> > >> but
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>> be
> >> >> >> > quit
> >> >> >> > >> frank I felt
> >> >> >> > >> > > that I
> was
> >> hogging
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> the discussione so
> >> >> >> > decided
> >> >> >> > >> to
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > keep
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>> my
> >> >> >> > mouth
> >> >> >> > >> shut. But I
> >> >> >> > >> > > wish I
> would
> >> have
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> said something or
> >> >> >> > atleast
> >> >> >> > >> got
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > everyone's
> >> >> >> > >> email
> >> >> >> > >> > > address
> so that
> >> we could
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> have formed some
> >> >> >> > sort of
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > >> communication.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > Anmol
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>> I
> >> >> >> > seldom
> >> >> >> > >> think about
> >> >> >> > >> > > my
> limitations,
> >> and
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> they never make me
> >> >> >> > sad.
> >> >> >> > >> Perhaps
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > there is
> >> >> >> > >> just a touch
> >> >> >> > >> > > of
> yearning at
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> times; but it is
> >> >> >> > vague, like
> >> >> >> > >> a
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > breeze
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > among
> >> >> >> > >> flowers.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > Hellen
> >> >> >> > >> Keller
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > --- On Sat,
> >> >> >> > >> 7/24/10,
> >> >> >> > >> > > jan
> wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> >>>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> From:
> >> >> >> > >> jan wright
> >> >> >> > >> > > <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >> Subject: Re:
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> [Blind-international-students]
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> >
> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> To:
> >> >> >> > >> "Blind
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> International
> >> Students
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> Mailing List"
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> Date:
> >> >> >> > >> Saturday,
> >> >> >> > >> > > July 24,
> 2010,
> >> 6:43
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> PM
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> Hi
> >> >> >> > >> All,
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> I
> will
> >> >> >> > >> give a
> >> >> >> > >> > > summary
> of what
> >> went on
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> during the meeting
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> (as
> it
> >> >> >> > >> refers
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> to
> this
> >> >> >> > >> list or
> >> >> >> > >> > > things
> that we
> >> can do
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> on our own).
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>>
> Please,
> >> >> >> > >> Anmol,
> >> >> >> > >> > > chime in
> if I
> >> either
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> forget something
> >> >> >> > or
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >> present
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >> something
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> incorrectly.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> We
> >> >> >> > >> discussed
> >> >> >> > >> > > making
> books
> >> more
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> accessible for
> >> >> >> > those who do
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> not
> >> >> >> > >> live in the
> >> >> >> > >> > > USA.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> We
> all
> >> >> >> > >> know about
> >> >> >> > >> > > the
> strict laws
> >> of
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> the Library of
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >> Congress and
> >> >> >> > >> > > NLS.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> There
> >> >> >> > >> was some
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> discussion about
> >> the
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> library in
> >> >> >> > Australia
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> and
> how
> >> >> >> > >> they
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> were
> >> >> >> > >> trying to
> >> >> >> > >> > > help
> others have
> >> access
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> to both braille
> >> >> >> > (at
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> least
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >> technical
> >> >> >> > >> > > braille)
> and
> >> audio books.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> But,
> >> >> >> > >> there were
> >> >> >> > >> > > no
> suggestions as
> >> to
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> how we might
> >> >> >> > assist
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> the
> >> >> >> > >> process.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> We
> >> >> >> > >> talked about
> >> >> >> > >> > > sending
> items
> >> abroad.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> Some
> >> >> >> > >> people
> >> >> >> > >> > > wanted
> to have a
> >> drive to
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> collect equipment
> >> >> >> > or
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >> products
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> for
> the
> >> >> >> > >> blind and
> >> >> >> > >> > > send
> them to
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> developing
> >> >> >> > countries.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> There
> >> >> >> > >> was some
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> discussion about
> >> the
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> postal fees.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >> Apparently these
> >> >> >> > >> > > fees
> have
> >> hindered
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> people from
> >> >> >> > sending
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> large
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >> quantities of
> >> >> >> > >> > > products
> to
> >> other
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> countries.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> It
> was
> >> >> >> > >> suggested
> >> >> >> > >> > > that if
> we want
> >> to
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> try to get products
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> send
> >> >> >> > >> to
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> > >>>>> other
> >> >> >> > >> countries:
> >> >> >> > >> > > we do
> it
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>>>> individually, not
> >> >> >> > >> collectively.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
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