[Blind-international-students] introducing myself andcommentsonyour discussion

[hina altaf]

hi anmol,
yes i will work on that this weekend. but everyone please give me your
thoughts on what should we include? it seems jan is pretty good  at
summarizing the important points, so jan please give your thoughts on
the add and i will work on it. thanks everyone. hina.

On 8/5/10, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I agree. There is a free conference call service that my friend told me
> about but I failed to write down the number he gave me. I will check into it
> and let everyone know. The chat line I don't think will be appropreate for
> this situation since it is more of a social chat line and may drive people
> away. So for situation like this we need something a little more formal. So
> how about we have a social get to know you conference this weekend? How many
> of us can attend if it is this weekend? Let me know. Also Hina do you want
> to write a one page add for this group to put in the Student Slate (the
> newletter sent out by NABS)?
> Anmol
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze
> among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
>
>
> --- On Thu, 8/5/10, hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>> andcommentsonyour discussion
>> To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 3:16 PM
>> anmol i think first meeting should be
>> just social get together on the
>> conference. a lot  of us only know each other through
>> emails and never
>> spoke to one another directly. i think we should first have
>> a social
>> meeting  so  everyone is  introduced
>> to   each other. do we have a
>> free number that we could use to host our conference anmol?
>> the chat
>> line you once gave me, maybe there but i don't want any
>> other
>> intruptions. it should be just our blind international
>> group and our
>> speakers. but in this first one we should just meet one
>> another rather
>> then starting it too formal. some people are still new and
>> need to be
>> comfortable with each other.
>> hina.
>>
>> On 8/5/10, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hello Jan,
>> > Great points! I would like to do it this weekend but
>> maybe to much of a
>> > short notice.
>> > My thinking was to ask a person who I met during my
>> trip to Washington and
>> > see if she would do a presentation the project she is
>> doing on international
>> > development for people with  disabilities. Maybe
>> let her speak for about
>> > half-hour, take questions for about 15 minutes and
>> then we can move to
>> > discussion for 15 minutes or how ever long people want
>> to stay on. We could
>> > start with some of the points but the conference calls
>> will have to be on
>> > going. At some point maybe if anyone knows of a
>> immigration lawyer who would
>> > be willing to do some free consoltation maybe that
>> could be one of our guest
>> > speak. I would personally like this and alot of
>> international students could
>> > benefit from this. I suggest that Hina as one of the
>> list moderators be our
>> > leader for this conference calls until we can figure
>> out the leadership
>> > structure. Any thoughts?
>> >
>> > Anmol
>> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
>> make me sad. Perhaps
>> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
>> vague, like a breeze
>> > among flowers.
>> > Hellen Keller
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Thu, 8/5/10, jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
>> introducing myself
>> >> andcommentsonyour discussion
>> >> To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
>> >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 1:14 PM
>> >>  Hi All,
>> >> So, are we scheduling a conference call?
>> >> What shall be our agenda?
>> >> ... not necessarily in this order....
>> >>
>> >> 1. Hina and Anmol have mentioned the astronomical
>> >> expense  of an
>> >> international student. Is there something that we
>> can do
>> >> about it?
>> >> 2. Imran has mentioned the need for some type of
>> reach/out
>> >> and support
>> >> for international students. How can we find
>> international
>> >> students? Is
>> >> there a way that we can be informed when they
>> arrive so
>> >> that we can
>> >> offer a network of ....  "mentors" if you will?
>> As
>> >> well as finding a
>> >> way to give them all the information that they
>> might need
>> >> both about
>> >> blindness and their unique status as
>> international
>> >> students.
>> >>    3. How can we respond to those blind
>> >> people who are not in America?
>> >> Should we try to implement projects collectively
>> or
>> >> individually? If
>> >> we don't work with agencies that are already
>> structured,
>> >> then we will
>> >> need to find individuals as our liasons.
>> >> 5. Should we have a division of the NFB? (We have
>> enough
>> >> members). We
>> >> could write a constitution and elect officers.
>> Or,
>> >> Should we form a
>> >> formal organization independent of the nfb?
>> Discussion
>> >> about pros and
>> >> cons of affiliating with NFB or other
>> organization. What
>> >> about Anmol's
>> >> org MIUSA? What about American Foundation or
>> ......
>> >> others?
>> >> 6. Should we form a formal statement of goals,
>> guidelines
>> >> or anything else?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 8/4/10, Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > yes, i do understand. but still we need to be
>> careful
>> >> dear friend.
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Carly Mihalakis" <carlymih at earthlink.net>
>> >> > To: "Blind International Students Mailing
>> List"
>> >> > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 6:09 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
>> >> introducing myself
>> >> > andcommentsonyour discussion
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi, Heena,
>> >> >
>> >> >          I do not feel my
>> >> reference to a "son of a bitch" was used in
>> >> > a way that was gratuitous, but an accurate
>> albeit
>> >> colorful
>> >> > description of the Obama aproach approach of
>> ruling
>> >> this fair land.
>> >> > Examine the context please, Heena.
>> >> > C.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Not just a single war in Iraq but
>> can't you
>> >> hear the war drums
>> >> >> > beating from Afghanistan, Pakistan
>> and North
>> >> Korea all awaiting US
>> >> >> > invasion, for the crime of
>> nonconformance to
>> >> American values?
>> >> >> > It seems, Obama would rather invest
>> in taking
>> >> life away, and
>> >> >> > destroying perfectly viable
>> infrastructure
>> >> than to actually channel
>> >> >> > resources for the long term health
>> care
>> >> of People.
>> >> >> > He's an ever calculating son of a
>> bitch, and
>> >> nobody better start
>> >> >> > accusing me of being a racist or any
>> such
>> >> slander because   Obama
>> >> >> > keeps as far away from Black affairs
>> as
>> >> possible, even if it means
>> >> >> > throwing prominent Black figures
>> under
>> >> that bus.
>> >> >> > Car
>> >> >> >>The cost to the USA
>> infrastructure of
>> >> having a war in Iraq is also
>> >> >> >>bloody
>> >> >> >>prohibitive, doesn't seem to stop
>> our
>> >> leaders from doing so.
>> >> >> >>It's perhaps a question of
>> priorities.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Dan W.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> On Behalf Of
>> >> >> >>Guido
>> >> >> >>Corona
>> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
>> 10:55 AM
>> >> >> >>To: 'Blind International Students
>> Mailing
>> >> List'
>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducingmyself
>> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Dan, not quite sure if this has
>> been
>> >> mentioned, but the current cost of
>> >> >> >>a
>> >> >> >>money identifier is $99, not $300
>> as
>> >> suggested.  ... See below.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>As for changing to a multi-size
>> bill
>> >> system,  it simply will not happen.
>> >> >> >>The cost to the USA
>> infrastructure would
>> >> be prohibitive if the rationale
>> >> >> >>remains purely an accessibility
>> >> standpoint, for which there is a
>> >> >> >>multiplicity of
>> workarounds/alternatives.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>* * * *
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >From the Braille Monitor for
>> December
>> >> 2009 at:
>> >> >> >>http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm09/bm0911/bm091118.htm
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>New Money Identifier Available:
>> >> >> >>We received the following press
>> release
>> >> describing a new money
>> >> >> >>identifier
>> >> >> >>now available in the United
>> States. Here,
>> >> in part, is the text of this
>> >> >> >>announcement:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Orbit Research has announced the
>> >> introduction of the iBill, the world's
>> >> >> >>first affordable talking
>> banknote
>> >> identifier for the blind and
>> >> >> >>vision-impaired.
>> >> >> >>Priced at $99, the 1.5 ounce
>> pager-sized
>> >> iBill represents a breakthrough
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>in
>> >> >> >>enabling blind and vision
>> impaired people
>> >> to achieve independence in the
>> >> >> >>everyday
>> >> >> >>necessity of using paper
>> currency. At
>> >> about a third of the cost of
>> >> >> >>existing
>> >> >> >>devices, the iBill offers
>> unrivaled
>> >> features, ease of use, and accuracy
>> >> >> >>of
>> >> >> >>identification.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>The iBill is an exceptionally
>> convenient
>> >> and affordable solution that
>> >> >> >>blind
>> >> >> >>and vision-impaired people can
>> use.
>> >> Measuring just 3 inches by 1.6
>> >> >> >>inches
>> >> >> >> by
>> >> >> >>0.7 inches, the ultra-slim and
>> compact
>> >> key-fob design provides the
>> >> >> >>ultimate
>> >> >> >>in convenience, allowing it to be
>> carried
>> >> unobtrusively in a pocket or
>> >> >> >>purse,
>> >> >> >>clipped to a belt, or attached to
>> a
>> >> keychain or lanyard. Among the
>> >> >> >>features
>> >> >> >>that set it apart from other such
>> devices
>> >> are its high accuracy (better
>> >> >> >> than
>> >> >> >>99.9 percent) and the
>> near-instantaneous
>> >> speed (less than one second in
>> >> >> >> most
>> >> >> >>cases) with which it identifies
>> >> banknotes.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>The iBill provides the simplest,
>> fastest,
>> >> and most accurate means to
>> >> >> >>identify U.S. banknotes. Its
>> unique
>> >> ergonomic design permits easy and
>> >> >> >>intuitive use
>> >> >> >>without training or practice.
>> When a
>> >> banknote is inserted into the
>> >> >> >>device,
>> >> >> >>its denomination is identified at
>> the
>> >> press of a button. Based on the
>> >> >> >> user's
>> >> >> >>preference, the denomination is
>> announced
>> >> by a clear and natural voice
>> >> >> >>or
>> >> >> >> by
>> >> >> >>tone or vibration for privacy.
>> The unit
>> >> identifies all U.S. banknotes in
>> >> >> >>circulation
>> >> >> >>and recognizes them in any
>> orientation.
>> >> Banknotes in poor physical
>> >> >> >> condition
>> >> >> >>are indicated as unidentifiable
>> and are
>> >> not misread. The unit is also
>> >> >> >>upgradeable
>> >> >> >>to recognize new banknote
>> designs.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>The iBill achieves all of this
>> while
>> >> operating on a single, commonly
>> >> >> >>available AAA battery, which
>> lasts for
>> >> over a year with typical use. Its
>> >> >> >>durable construction
>> >> >> >>and sealed design ensure
>> trouble-free use.
>> >> The unit is backed by a
>> >> >> >>one-year
>> >> >> >>warranty from Orbit Research,
>> and
>> >> toll-free customer support is
>> >> >> >>available.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>For further information contact
>> Orbit
>> >> Research, 3422 Old Capitol Trail,
>> >> >> >>Suite 585, Wilmington, DE 19808;
>> (888)
>> >> 606-7248;
>> >> >> >><http://www.orbitresearch.com>.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Guido D. Corona
>> >> >> >>Email: guidoc at austin.rr.com
>> >> >> >>Home office: (512) 996-9187
>> >> >> >>Mobile: (512) 466-1322
>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> On Behalf Of
>> >> >> >>Dan
>> >> >> >>Weiner
>> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
>> 9:17 AM
>> >> >> >>To: 'Blind International Students
>> Mailing
>> >> List'
>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Wait, the NFB, our NFB which
>> claims that
>> >> any adaptation to money would
>> >> >> >> cause
>> >> >> >>the sighted to think less of our
>> ability
>> >> to handle money, this NFB now
>> >> >> >> wants
>> >> >> >>to study tactile identification
>> for
>> >> money?
>> >> >> >>Why do that, blindness is
>> reduced, with
>> >> proper training and tecnique, to
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >>level of a nuisance.
>> >> >> >>Just because we have to ask
>> people what
>> >> our money is and someone could
>> >> >> >>give
>> >> >> >>us a load of bull shit  and tell
>> us
>> >> it's a five when it's a ten, doesn't
>> >> >> >>mean we should do anything about
>> it.
>> >> >> >>The proceeding was sarcasm for
>> those who
>> >> didn't guess--smile.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Most of the countries I have
>> visited
>> >> have paper money of different
>> >> >> >>sizes
>> >> >> >>and not too many people in these
>> countries
>> >> use our folding method of
>> >> >> >>money
>> >> >> >>identifying.
>> >> >> >>The Japanese actually told me
>> bluntly it
>> >> sounded weird--smile.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>A money identifyer, to quote our
>> friend
>> >> Carlie, is a bunch of crap, or
>> >> >> >>something like that.
>> >> >> >>Many aren't reliable and they
>> cost money.
>> >> >> >>At $300.00 for the Note Teller,
>> that means
>> >> a person getting six hundred
>> >> >> >>dollars social security wouldn't
>> be able
>> >> to eat that month.
>> >> >> >>Now, granted there are other
>> models, but I
>> >> haven't tried them yet.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Speaking of Carlie, I sincerely
>> apologize
>> >> for not being in touch, I
>> >> >> >>don't
>> >> >> >>know what I did with your Email
>> in which
>> >> you sent me contact info, so
>> >> >> >> please
>> >> >> >>write me again at:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>I think our Federation is
>> somewhat
>> >> selective on the projects we take on.
>> >> >> >>If we don't want to take it on,
>> then our
>> >> leaders say it's not necessary
>> >> >> >>rather than  saying we just
>> don't
>> >> have the time or inclination to deal
>> >> >> >>with
>> >> >> >>it.
>> >> >> >>I'm pretty sick of the organized
>> blind
>> >> movement as far as things like
>> >> >> >>that
>> >> >> >>are concerned, both ACB and NFB.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Cordially,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Dan W.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> On Behalf Of
>> >> >> >>Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
>> 8:30 AM
>> >> >> >>To: Blind International Students
>> Mailing
>> >> List
>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Hi Anmol, and others
>> >> >> >>I just read many of the emails
>> about the
>> >> blind international division
>> >> >> >>and
>> >> >> >>the issue about money identifier.
>> I would
>> >> like to say this much about
>> >> >> >> money.
>> >> >> >>The NFB has been working for the
>> last two
>> >> years to get some kind of
>> >> >> >>tactile
>> >> >> >>identification system on the
>> paper bills.
>> >> Some of us who are totally
>> >> >> >>blind
>> >> >> >>are participating in a study. We
>> may have
>> >> the results by next year.
>> >> >> >>The second issue some have
>> brought up is
>> >> being independent. There is a
>> >> >> >>wonderful speech by Dr. Jernigan,
>> "The
>> >> Nature of Independence" It is
>> >> >> >>available on the NFB website. I
>> suggest
>> >> that you read it. Asking for
>> >> >> >>help
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >>not new. Even sighted people ask
>> for it.
>> >> >> >>I will say that a division will
>> be good. I
>> >> think that committee meetings
>> >> >> >>have happened enough.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Yasmin Reyazuddin
>> >> >> >>Aging & Disability services
>> >> >> >>Montgomery County Government
>> >> >> >>Department of Health & human
>> Services
>> >> >> >>401 Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
>> >> >> >>Rockville MD 20850
>> >> >> >>240-777-0311 (MC311)
>> >> >> >>240-777-1556 (personal)
>> >> >> >>240-777-1495 (fax)
>> >> >> >>office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
>> >> >> >>Languages English, Hindi, Urdu,
>> Braille
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>This message may contain
>> protected health
>> >> information or other
>> >> >> >>information
>> >> >> >>that is confidential or
>> privileged. If you
>> >> are not the intended
>> >> >> >>recipient,
>> >> >> >>please contact the sender by
>> return mail
>> >> and destroy any copies of this
>> >> >> >>material.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Thank you.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> On Behalf Of
>> >> >> >>Anmol
>> >> >> >>Bhatia
>> >> >> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010
>> 9:30 PM
>> >> >> >>To: Blind International Students
>> Mailing
>> >> List
>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>> >> >> >> andcommentson
>> >> >> >>your discussion
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Hello Reyazuddin,,
>> >> >> >>The sad reality is that the same
>> is true
>> >> for the schools for the blind
>> >> >> >>in
>> >> >> >>the United States. The Arkansas
>> School for
>> >> the Blind was not the same
>> >> >> >>when
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >>graduated from there as it was
>> when I
>> >> started there. I often blind
>> >> >> >>people
>> >> >> >>that we are our own worst
>> enemies. It is a
>> >> pleg which has hit blind
>> >> >> >>community, blind schools, blind
>> >> organizations and professnals serving
>> >> >> >>the
>> >> >> >>blind community and we need a
>> quick cure!
>> >> lol
>> >> >> >>However, our generation "our
>> generation
>> >> and beyound" can not let the
>> >> >> >>same
>> >> >> >>happen when we come in
>> leadership
>> >> positions. I am also from India and
>> >> >> >> always
>> >> >> >>like to meet other blind people
>> from
>> >> India.
>> >> >> >>Anmol
>> >> >> >>I seldom think about my
>> limitations, and
>> >> they never make me sad. Perhaps
>> >> >> >>there is just a touch of yearning
>> at
>> >> times; but it is vague, like a
>> >> >> >>breeze
>> >> >> >>among flowers.
>> >> >> >>Hellen Keller
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Reyazuddin,
>> Yasmin
>> >> >> >><Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > From: Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>> >> >> >> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>> >> >> >> > Subject: Re:
>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>> and
>> >> >> >>commentson your discussion
>> >> >> >> > To: "Blind International
>> Students
>> >> Mailing List"
>> >> >> >><blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> >> > Date: Tuesday, August 3,
>> 2010, 3:10
>> >> PM
>> >> >> >> > Hi Jan,
>> >> >> >> > I like your idea. We all
>> have to
>> >> think about what is
>> >> >> >> > important. For the group. I
>> have not
>> >> shared but here it is.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Last November I went to
>> India, and
>> >> visited my old school.
>> >> >> >> > This used to be a very good
>> school
>> >> when I went there. We had
>> >> >> >> > blind teachers and some
>> sighted
>> >> teachers. There were blind
>> >> >> >> > people working in different
>> jobs.
>> >> >> >> > I found out that the school
>> has gone
>> >> down hill, meaning
>> >> >> >> > there is no hope for the
>> students.
>> >> The school administration
>> >> >> >> > does not serve the blind
>> community.
>> >> They serve their own
>> >> >> >> > pockets. They have very few
>> real
>> >> teachers and the rest are
>> >> >> >> > administration pets.
>> >> >> >> > When I went there, the
>> security
>> >> guard told me that I was
>> >> >> >> > not welcome. The school was
>> closed
>> >> and no staff was there. I
>> >> >> >> > persisted and went in. I
>> met some of
>> >> my old teachers who
>> >> >> >> > gave me the bad news. The
>> school
>> >> administration and the
>> >> >> >> > teachers are fighting
>> against each
>> >> other. There are human
>> >> >> >> > rights violations of all
>> levels.
>> >> >> >> > Blind graduates of the
>> school are no
>> >> longer able to go to
>> >> >> >> > college and they can not
>> get jobs.
>> >> >> >> > Students at the school are
>> not
>> >> getting any assistance or
>> >> >> >> > education. If you have a
>> will you
>> >> may get through but it is
>> >> >> >> > very difficult.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I am sure that many others
>> will have
>> >> similar stories.
>> >> >> >> > Right now I am mentoring a
>> young
>> >> blind man who lives in
>> >> >> >> > India by email.
>> >> >> >> > I am sorry if this is not
>> the right
>> >> forum for this
>> >> >> >> > discussion.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Yasmin Reyazuddin
>> >> >> >> > Aging & Disability
>> services
>> >> >> >> > Montgomery County
>> Government
>> >> >> >> > Department of Health &
>> human
>> >> Services
>> >> >> >> > 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd
>> floor)
>> >> >> >> > Rockville MD 20850
>> >> >> >> > 240-777-0311 (MC311)
>> >> >> >> > 240-777-1556 (personal)
>> >> >> >> > 240-777-1495 (fax)
>> >> >> >> > office hours 8:30 am 5:00
>> pm
>> >> >> >> > Languages English, Hindi,
>> Urdu,
>> >> Braille
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > This message may contain
>> protected
>> >> health information or
>> >> >> >> > other information that is
>> >> confidential or privileged. If you
>> >> >> >> > are not the intended
>> recipient,
>> >> please contact the sender by
>> >> >> >> > return mail and destroy any
>> copies
>> >> of this material.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thank you.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> >> > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> >> >> > On Behalf Of jan wright
>> >> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03,
>> 2010 3:40
>> >> PM
>> >> >> >> > To: Blind International
>> Students
>> >> Mailing List
>> >> >> >> > Subject: Re:
>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing
>> >> >> >> > myself and commentson your
>> >> discussion
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >   Hi Jim, Yasmin and
>> >> Anmol,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Anmol, I will ask:
>> >> >> >> > What part of the Nfb
>> philosophy do
>> >> you find does not fit
>> >> >> >> > into the
>> >> >> >> > category of "positive."
>> >> >> >> > In short, which part do you
>> have a
>> >> difficult time
>> >> >> >> > supporting?
>> >> >> >> > We all -- well most of us,
>> have
>> >> certain things that we are
>> >> >> >> > passionate
>> >> >> >> > about within the NFB and
>> some things
>> >> that we are not as
>> >> >> >> > passionate about.
>> >> >> >> > Some of us are passionate
>> about
>> >> braille! Others are
>> >> >> >> > passionate about
>> >> >> >> > independent travel. Others
>> are
>> >> passionate about the "image
>> >> >> >> > of the
>> >> >> >> > blind in public."
>> >> >> >> > I must admit:
>> >> >> >> > There are parts of the
>> philosophy
>> >> that I support
>> >> >> >> > whole-heartedly.
>> >> >> >> > For example: I do believe
>> that
>> >> everyone should have a
>> >> >> >> > chance to learn
>> >> >> >> > braille as a viable way of
>> >> communicating.
>> >> >> >> > I believe that blind people
>> should
>> >> be taught by blind
>> >> >> >> > people.
>> >> >> >> > But, (one example of my
>> >> divergence)  I did hear that
>> >> >> >> > in the philosophy
>> >> >> >> > that the NFB is skeptical
>> (and does
>> >> not care) to work with
>> >> >> >> > other
>> >> >> >> > organizations of disabled
>> people.
>> >> >> >> > They say that if they work
>> with
>> >> other disabled people's
>> >> >> >> > organizations,
>> >> >> >> > blind people get  put on
>> the
>> >> backburner.
>> >> >> >> > I understand this
>> skepticism. But, I
>> >> would encourage us to
>> >> >> >> > still try
>> >> >> >> > to work with other
>> organizations -
>> >> yet, have our goal
>> >> >> >> > firmly planted
>> >> >> >> > in our mind.
>> >> >> >> > So, you might say that I
>> "disagree,"
>> >> with that portion of
>> >> >> >> > the philosophy.
>> >> >> >> > But, for me:
>> >> >> >> > I am in the nfb because I
>> want to
>> >> help blind people achieve
>> >> >> >> > their
>> >> >> >> > highest  potential.
>> >> >> >> > I want to show us (I am not
>> so
>> >> worried about that fickle
>> >> >> >> > sighted
>> >> >> >> > public) that We can live
>> the life
>> >> that we want.
>> >> >> >> > We can be parents.
>> >> >> >> > We can be professionals.
>> >> >> >> > We can go on trips
>> independently.
>> >> >> >> > We can enjoy activities
>> such as
>> >> sports, games, playing an
>> >> >> >> > instrument,
>> >> >> >> > picnics, etc.
>> >> >> >> > We can worship as we
>> choose.
>> >> >> >> > We can go to college.
>> >> >> >> > We can have a career.
>> >> >> >> > We can live fulfilling
>> lives full of
>> >> all of the events
>> >> >> >> > that  are
>> >> >> >> > present in the lives of
>> the
>> >> sighted.
>> >> >> >> > That is why I am here.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > And, maybe that is what we
>> can take
>> >> to other countries.
>> >> >> >> > Thoughts?????
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > There are organizations in
>> other
>> >> countries.
>> >> >> >> > Does the world Blind Union
>> have a
>> >> listing of these
>> >> >> >> > organizations in
>> >> >> >> > each country?
>> >> >> >> > I have found some, but not
>> many.
>> >> >> >> > I thought that one thing
>> that the
>> >> World Blind Union can do
>> >> >> >> > is to
>> >> >> >> > provide an international
>> directory
>> >> of organizations and
>> >> >> >> > services for
>> >> >> >> > the blind.
>> >> >> >> > It would also be nice if
>> they could
>> >> help with an internet
>> >> >> >> > site and
>> >> >> >> > a bit of email.
>> >> >> >> > Yes, I have seen the
>> International
>> >> Library Service provide
>> >> >> >> > a small
>> >> >> >> > list, but it is out of
>> date, I am
>> >> positive.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Blind corps, well, I will
>> have to
>> >> google this.
>> >> >> >> > Do they only go to
>> turkey?????
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I am sorry to hear about
>> Robert
>> >> Leslie Newman.
>> >> >> >> > I  always enjoyed the
>> thought
>> >> provoker and hope that
>> >> >> >> > someday, a writer
>> >> >> >> > takes it on.
>> >> >> >> > Jan
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On 8/3/10, Anmol Bhatia
>> <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > Hello James,
>> >> >> >> > > First and for most
>> welcome to
>> >> the list.
>> >> >> >> > > I like Hina ecco the
>> value that
>> >> people like you and
>> >> >> >> > Jan bring to
>> >> >> >> > > international students
>> and for
>> >> blind individuals in
>> >> >> >> > under developed
>> >> >> >> > > countries.
>> >> >> >> > > During the Inter
>> Cultural
>> >> Exchange Committee meeting,
>> >> >> >> > Buna Dahal, one of the
>> >> >> >> > > co-founders of Blind
>> Core did a
>> >> presentation on Blind
>> >> >> >> > Cor and as I mentioned
>> >> >> >> > > to the group
>> sometime ago
>> >> on the discussion that
>> >> >> >> > maybe this can be one of
>> >> >> >> > > our adopted projects.
>> >> >> >> > > I actually met the
>> young lady
>> >> from Japan whom you were
>> >> >> >> > refering to at the
>> >> >> >> > > Travel and Tureism
>> chapter
>> >> meeting. To be quite
>> >> >> >> > honest, she provided me
>> with
>> >> >> >> > > her contact
>> information and I
>> >> accidently deleted it so
>> >> >> >> > if it would be
>> >> >> >> > > possible for you to
>> get her
>> >> contact information and
>> >> >> >> > email me off list I
>> >> >> >> > > would really
>> appreciate it.
>> >> >> >> > > This brings up another
>> idea!
>> >> Maybe we could advertise
>> >> >> >> > with the Travel and
>> >> >> >> > > Tureism group and send
>> out a
>> >> flyer on their list
>> >> >> >> > serve. I am pretty sure
>> >> >> >> > > there would be members
>> in this
>> >> group who would love to
>> >> >> >> > connect with
>> >> >> >> > > international students
>> and
>> >> possibley do some
>> >> >> >> > international development
>> >> >> >> > > project.
>> >> >> >> > > I am glad you brought
>> the point
>> >> about starting a
>> >> >> >> > special interest
>> >> >> >> > > international division
>> within
>> >> NFB. I think we would
>> >> >> >> > have more supporters
>> >> >> >> > > then not. As you
>> mentioned that
>> >> most people would
>> >> >> >> > enthusiastically support
>> >> >> >> > > us and this is true
>> and these
>> >> people would also bring
>> >> >> >> > our group value. My
>> >> >> >> > > vision is that our
>> group
>> >> would consist of
>> >> >> >> > international students,
>> people
>> >> >> >> > > who care deeply about
>> >> international students such as
>> >> >> >> > yourself and Jan and
>> >> >> >> > > Americans who are
>> interested in
>> >> travel abroad eather
>> >> >> >> > for studies or just
>> >> >> >> > > travel or are
>> interested in
>> >> making international
>> >> >> >> > friends. I think we would
>> >> >> >> > > also have alot of
>> second
>> >> generation US citizens
>> >> >> >> > meaning those who are
>> >> >> >> > > naturalized  US
>> citizens.
>> >> I met a person who was a
>> >> >> >> > naturalized  US citizen
>> >> >> >> > > but said he will
>> always be
>> >> international in heart.
>> >> >> >> > > In addition, we would
>> have
>> >> supportors who may not
>> >> >> >> > Necessarily  be active
>> >> >> >> > > with our group,  but
>> would
>> >> be supportors  of our
>> >> >> >> > cause. As you mentioned,
>> >> >> >> > > there will certainly
>> be a few
>> >> who would be hostile to
>> >> >> >> > our cause and
>> >> >> >> > > existence but these
>> will be
>> >> few. One thing I have
>> >> >> >> > learned in more then 20
>> >> >> >> > > years of living in the
>> United
>> >> States is that people
>> >> >> >> > who are hostile towards
>> >> >> >> > > international students
>> and
>> >> people who are not lucky
>> >> >> >> > enough to be US citizens
>> >> >> >> > > are usually the same
>> people who
>> >> hold negative attitude
>> >> >> >> > towards many things
>> >> >> >> > > including blindness
>> and are
>> >> usually the people who are
>> >> >> >> > self serving meaning
>> >> >> >> > > only think about what
>> is best
>> >> for them. I have learned
>> >> >> >> > through experience
>> >> >> >> > > that it is best just
>> to ignore
>> >> these people.
>> >> >> >> > > As you mentioned the
>> benefit a
>> >> organized special
>> >> >> >> > interest  group for us is
>> >> >> >> > > that it would allow us
>> to have
>> >> a leadership structure,
>> >> >> >> > allow us to open up a
>> >> >> >> > > bank account and allow
>> us to
>> >> rais funds.
>> >> >> >> > > I like the idea of
>> writing up a
>> >> one page add and
>> >> >> >> > distribute it to various
>> >> >> >> > > groups and anywhere
>> else we may
>> >> be able to recruit. My
>> >> >> >> > suggestion is that we
>> >> >> >> > > have a conference call
>> maybe as
>> >> soon  as this
>> >> >> >> > weekend to discuss the
>> content
>> >> >> >> > > of the add and
>> brainstorm of
>> >> places where we could
>> >> >> >> > advertise. Any thoughts?
>> >> >> >> > > Jim you brought up
>> another
>> >> advantage of our group and
>> >> >> >> > this list. Amazing how
>> >> >> >> > > ideas pop up in one's
>> mind!
>> >> When you mentioned that
>> >> >> >> > you were Hina's pen-pal,
>> >> >> >> > > it occured to me that
>> this
>> >> group would be excellent
>> >> >> >> > place to build pen-pal
>> >> >> >> > > relationships with
>> blind
>> >> individuals in other
>> >> >> >> > countries. To be quite
>> frank a
>> >> >> >> > > teacher at the
>> Arkansas School
>> >> for the Blind
>> >> >> >> > encouraged me to find a
>> pen-pal
>> >> >> >> > > but I was simply just
>> to lazy
>> >> to do it. This were the
>> >> >> >> > days of writing and
>> >> >> >> > > mailing the letter
>> before the
>> >> days of email and
>> >> >> >> > internet. Amazing how
>> >> >> >> > > technology has changed
>> even
>> >> with communicating with
>> >> >> >> > pen-pal!
>> >> >> >> > > Anyways, Jim welcome
>> to the
>> >> list and please give
>> >> >> >> > Robbert Lesliy Newman our
>> >> >> >> > > best regard and wish
>> him
>> >> speady  recovery.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > sincerely,
>> >> >> >> > > Anmol
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > I seldom think about
>> my
>> >> limitations, and they never
>> >> >> >> > make me sad. Perhaps
>> >> >> >> > > there is just a touch
>> of
>> >> yearning at times; but it is
>> >> >> >> > vague, like a breeze
>> >> >> >> > > among flowers.
>> >> >> >> > > Hellen Keller
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > --- On Mon, 8/2/10,
>> James H.
>> >> "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR
>> >> >> >> > <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>> >> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> From: James H.
>> "Jim"
>> >> Canaday M.A. N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> Subject:
>> >> [Blind-international-students]
>> >> >> >> > introducing myself and
>> comments on
>> >> >> >> > >> your discussion
>> >> >> >> > >> To: "Blind
>> International
>> >> Students Mailing List"
>> >> >> >> > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> >> > >> Date: Monday,
>> August 2,
>> >> 2010, 7:53 PM
>> >> >> >> > >> Hello members of
>> the Blind
>> >> >> >> > >> Internationals nfb
>> list;
>> >> >> >> > >> I am Jim
>> Canaday.  I
>> >> am the president of the
>> >> >> >> > Jayhawk
>> >> >> >> > >> chapter of the NFB
>> of
>> >> kansas, here in Lawrence
>> >> >> >> > (where Kansas
>> >> >> >> > >> University is
>> >> located).  I am also active with
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > >> writers division
>> of NFB.
>> >> >> >> > >> I'll give more of
>> an
>> >> introduction later down this
>> >> >> >> > e-mail.
>> >> >> >> > >> > I have been
>> delighted
>> >> that nfb  supported
>> >> >> >> > this effort
>> >> >> >> > >> by providing the
>> list for
>> >> internationals.  I
>> >> >> >> > care
>> >> >> >> > >> deeply about
>> blind
>> >> international students who are
>> >> >> >> > here in
>> >> >> >> > >> the U.S.  I am
>> also
>> >> quite concerned about
>> >> >> >> > conditions
>> >> >> >> > >> for most blind
>> people in
>> >> the world.  I know very
>> >> >> >> > well
>> >> >> >> > >> in my heart that
>> blind
>> >> people have it much better
>> >> >> >> > here than
>> >> >> >> > >> in most of the
>> world and
>> >> that means that we have a
>> >> >> >> > serious
>> >> >> >> > >> responsibility.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> Robert Leslie
>> Newman,
>> >> president of the writers
>> >> >> >> > division and
>> >> >> >> > >> active member of
>> Blind
>> >> Corps is currently in the
>> >> >> >> > hospital,
>> >> >> >> > >> he lives in
>> nebraska.
>> >> he cares deeply and works
>> >> >> >> > >> diligently to
>> bring the nfb
>> >> philosophy of
>> >> >> >> > orientation and
>> >> >> >> > >> mobility to other
>> countries
>> >> through blind corps;
>> >> >> >> > they
>> >> >> >> > >> go teach the
>> teachers
>> >> primarily.  that  way
>> >> >> >> > other
>> >> >> >> > >> countries can
>> train their
>> >> own blind people.
>> >> >> >> > >> also from nebraska
>> is Fetos
>> >> Floyd who grew to
>> >> >> >> > adulthood in
>> >> >> >> > >> Turkey.  she is
>> I
>> >> believe the head of the
>> >> >> >> > nebraska
>> >> >> >> > >> center for the
>> blind where
>> >> training takes place
>> >> >> >> > and she
>> >> >> >> > >> participates in
>> blind corps
>> >> too.
>> >> >> >> > >> robert and fetos
>> and
>> >> several others recently
>> >> >> >> > returned from
>> >> >> >> > >> their second trip
>> to
>> >> turkey.  it seems that the
>> >> >> >> > program
>> >> >> >> > >> in turkey is doing
>> very
>> >> well.  I believe that all
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> > >> the members of
>> Blind Corps
>> >> are members of NFB.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> I have
>> communicated with
>> >> officers of NABS about
>> >> >> >> > this group
>> >> >> >> > >> recently, and
>> several
>> >> months ago.  there is an
>> >> >> >> > >> international grad
>> student
>> >> here in my chapter and
>> >> >> >> > I have
>> >> >> >> > >> told her of this
>> >> list.  I cannot tell you why she
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > >> hesitant to join.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> it's really great
>> to see
>> >> the activity on this list
>> >> >> >> > increase
>> >> >> >> > >> so
>> >> much!   blind people often experience
>> >> >> >> > >> isolation.  I
>> think
>> >> that may often be worse for
>> >> >> >> > blind
>> >> >> >> > >> international
>> students who
>> >> come here to study.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> if I can give a
>> little
>> >> advice,
>> >> >> >> > >> I believe that
>> >> international students and
>> >> >> >> > internationals in
>> >> >> >> > >> the U.S. should
>> actually
>> >> have their own division
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > >> NFB.  you are at
>> the
>> >> beginning of this process.
>> >> >> >> > >> or you are at the
>> beginning
>> >> of becoming a special
>> >> >> >> > interest
>> >> >> >> > >> group.  as a
>> division
>> >> you will get more attention
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > >> have more impact
>> on
>> >> others.  it takes time to
>> >> >> >> > build a
>> >> >> >> > >> group, organize
>> and form a
>> >> division.  and your
>> >> >> >> > >> experience is
>> actually
>> >> typical.  yes some people
>> >> >> >> > may be
>> >> >> >> > >> put off by your
>> being
>> >> internationals, but most
>> >> >> >> > will
>> >> >> >> > >> not.  some
>> >> people  will be put off by the fact
>> >> >> >> > >> that I am from
>> kansas,
>> >> too.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> Divisions start
>> from the
>> >> ground up most often.
>> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> > >> have taken steps
>> >> already like other groups did:
>> >> >> >> > >> forming
>> communication
>> >> within yourselves; defining
>> >> >> >> > your
>> >> >> >> > >> identity and your
>> >> interests; and forming goals.
>> >> >> >> > I hope
>> >> >> >> > >> you might find in
>> your
>> >> hearts some patience with
>> >> >> >> > the rest of
>> >> >> >> > >> us in the
>> federation, as we
>> >> are all human too.
>> >> >> >> > some of
>> >> >> >> > >> us will
>> enthusiastically
>> >> work with internationals,
>> >> >> >> > many will
>> >> >> >> > >> be shy or busy
>> with other
>> >> interests, and a few
>> >> >> >> > will be truly
>> >> >> >> > >> hostile.  please
>> don't
>> >> let the few bad people put
>> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> > >> off.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> more advice.
>> >> >> >> > >> maybe you all have
>> done
>> >> this but I have not seen
>> >> >> >> > it.
>> >> >> >> > >> you are now in the
>> stage of
>> >> getting interested
>> >> >> >> > people
>> >> >> >> > >> together for your
>> >> organization.  a very simple
>> >> >> >> > thing
>> >> >> >> > >> you can do in this
>> is to
>> >> write a direct one page
>> >> >> >> > >> statement.  your
>> >> organization's statement should
>> >> >> >> > give
>> >> >> >> > >> your tentative
>> name, your
>> >> e-mail list info for
>> >> >> >> > subscribing,
>> >> >> >> > >> who you are, what
>> your
>> >> interests are, and who you
>> >> >> >> > are
>> >> >> >> > >> looking for as
>> new
>> >> members.  and any other
>> >> >> >> > contact
>> >> >> >> > >> information that
>> would be
>> >> useful.  your statement
>> >> >> >> > then
>> >> >> >> > >> can be easily
>> posted to
>> >> groups, and people can
>> >> >> >> > forward it
>> >> >> >> > >> along.  you will
>> have
>> >> a single  presentation
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > >> you all have
>> agreed on that
>> >> represents you.
>> >> >> >> > your
>> >> >> >> > >> statement also can
>> go into
>> >> the Braille Monitor.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> to get this
>> statement
>> >> together, you need to first
>> >> >> >> > decide
>> >> >> >> > >> what your goals
>> and
>> >> interests are.  think of who
>> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> > >> are looking for
>> as
>> >> potential members.  and, you
>> >> >> >> > can
>> >> >> >> > >> consider how to
>> put your
>> >> group's presentation
>> >> >> >> > together from
>> >> >> >> > >> those decisions.
>> I
>> >> would not presume to suggest
>> >> >> >> > to you
>> >> >> >> > >> what these should
>> be.
>> >> but if you have a unified
>> >> >> >> > >> message, and one
>> that is
>> >> very easily distributed,
>> >> >> >> > it is very
>> >> >> >> > >> powerful.  there
>> are
>> >> people you want in your
>> >> >> >> > group who
>> >> >> >> > >> may have to hear
>> about it
>> >> two or more times before
>> >> >> >> > they
>> >> >> >> > >> reach out to you.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> I believe strongly
>> in NFB,
>> >> and I also know that
>> >> >> >> > >> internationals
>> are
>> >> wonderful people who also teach
>> >> >> >> > the rest
>> >> >> >> > >> of us much.  so I
>> very
>> >> strongly hope that you
>> >> >> >> > will work
>> >> >> >> > >> within NFB.  NFB
>> has
>> >> great resources you will
>> >> >> >> > find
>> >> >> >> > >> helpful.  it also
>> has
>> >> a wonderful network of
>> >> >> >> > >> people.  NFB will
>> be
>> >> much better with you in it.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> though you do not
>> have a
>> >> formal organization now,
>> >> >> >> > it would
>> >> >> >> > >> be worth
>> investigating
>> >> forming one.  that way you
>> >> >> >> > can
>> >> >> >> > >> designate officers
>> and have
>> >> a bank account.
>> >> >> >> > also,
>> >> >> >> > >> others will see
>> you are
>> >> serious by taking these
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> steps.   again, many other divisions and
>> >> >> >> > >> special interest
>> groups
>> >> have done the same
>> >> >> >> > thing.  and
>> >> >> >> > >> most started with
>> very
>> >> little if any push or
>> >> >> >> > support from
>> >> >> >> > >> NFB national
>> >> leadership.  there are at least two
>> >> >> >> > other
>> >> >> >> > >> nfb groups I
>> could
>> >> participate with, but I do not
>> >> >> >> > have the
>> >> >> >> > >> time or energy to
>> join in
>> >> with them.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> if you look at the
>> writers
>> >> division website
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> www.nfb-writers-division.org
>> >> >> >> > >> you will see that
>> we have a
>> >> very good website.
>> >> >> >> > this
>> >> >> >> > >> is also provided
>> by the
>> >> national organization.
>> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> > >> they did not
>> provide such
>> >> things for the writers
>> >> >> >> > division
>> >> >> >> > >> until it was
>> organized and
>> >> functioning.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> enough advice?
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> *I am here because
>> of
>> >> Hina.  five years and a
>> >> >> >> > month
>> >> >> >> > >> ago, I wrote to
>> her in
>> >> Pakistan, and I was
>> >> >> >> > incredibly
>> >> >> >> > >> fortunate to be
>> her pen
>> >> pal.  she is a dear
>> >> >> >> > friend of
>> >> >> >> > >> mine.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> the M.A. after my
>> name is
>> >> in clinical psychology,
>> >> >> >> > and I
>> >> >> >> > >> completed the
>> practicum as
>> >> a student
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> therapist.   I earned the degree at kansas
>> >> >> >> > >> university in
>> 1991, with no
>> >> help from kansas
>> >> >> >> > >> university.  K.U.
>> has
>> >> a sad long history of not
>> >> >> >> > >> properly providing
>> services
>> >> for blind students.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> I grew up in rural
>> central
>> >> california so I am
>> >> >> >> > curious about
>> >> >> >> > >> where Miso
>> lives.  I
>> >> was completely blind from
>> >> >> >> > age 13,
>> >> >> >> > >> and partial
>> before
>> >> that.  my bachelor's degree is
>> >> >> >> > from
>> >> >> >> > >> the university of
>> >> california at davis.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> I am married and
>> have no
>> >> children.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> I hope I can help
>> this
>> >> group to grow and
>> >> >> >> > flourish.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> jc
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> At 04:48 PM
>> 8/2/2010, you
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > Hello,
>> >> >> >> > >> > Jan if you
>> will recall
>> >> one of the co-founders
>> >> >> >> > of Blind
>> >> >> >> > >> Core was from
>> Turkey and is
>> >> I believe the director
>> >> >> >> > of VR in
>> >> >> >> > >> Nebraska. However,
>> do not
>> >> quote me on this. I do
>> >> >> >> > not agree
>> >> >> >> > >> about bringing
>> NFB
>> >> philosophy to my country but a
>> >> >> >> > philosophy
>> >> >> >> > >> which promotes
>> possitive
>> >> attitude about blindness
>> >> >> >> > and a can
>> >> >> >> > >> do attitude. Just
>> my two
>> >> sense .
>> >> >> >> > >> > Anmol
>> >> >> >> > >> > I seldom
>> think about
>> >> my limitations, and they
>> >> >> >> > never
>> >> >> >> > >> make me sad.
>> Perhaps there
>> >> is just a touch of
>> >> >> >> > yearning at
>> >> >> >> > >> times; but it is
>> vague,
>> >> like a breeze among
>> >> >> >> > flowers.
>> >> >> >> > >> > Hellen
>> Keller
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > --- On Mon,
>> 8/2/10,
>> >> Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>> >> >> >> > >> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>> >> >> >> > >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > From:
>> Reyazuddin,
>> >> Yasmin
>> >> >> >> > >> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Subject:
>> Re:
>> >> >> >> >
>> [Blind-international-students]
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> [Blind-international-students introduction
>> >> >> >> > >> > > To:
>> "Blind
>> >> International Students
>> >> >> >> > Mailing List"
>> >> >> >> > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Date:
>> Monday,
>> >> August 2, 2010, 3:42 PM
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Hi Hena
>> and all
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Once
>> again, we
>> >> need to communicate with
>> >> >> >> > Ron Brown
>> >> >> >> > >> and see
>> >> >> >> > >> > > if he
>> will
>> >> support us. Also if some of
>> >> >> >> > you will
>> >> >> >> > >> remember
>> >> >> >> > >> > > there
>> was a group
>> >> of blind
>> >> >> >> > federationists who
>> >> >> >> > >> went to Turkey
>> >> >> >> > >> > > to teach
>> the
>> >> blind professionals there.
>> >> >> >> > May be we
>> >> >> >> > >> need to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > talk
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>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>> Behalf Of hina
>> >> altaf
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Sent:
>> Monday,
>> >> August 02, 2010 4:18 PM
>> >> >> >> > >> > > To:
>> Blind
>> >> International Students Mailing
>> >> >> >> > List
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Subject:
>> Re:
>> >> >> >> >
>> [Blind-international-students]
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > hi jan,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >  yes
>> that is
>> >> why i started this list
>> >> >> >> > and had
>> >> >> >> > >> philip help me
>> >> >> >> > >> > > as co
>> >> >> >> > >> > > founder.
>> buna is
>> >> on the list but she
>> >> >> >> > never said
>> >> >> >> > >> anything.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > she is
>> a
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> wonderful person
>> >> but i think if she
>> >> >> >> > wanted to do
>> >> >> >> > >> anything
>> >> >> >> > >> > > for
>> this
>> >> >> >> > >> > > list or
>> >> international students, she
>> >> >> >> > would have
>> >> >> >> > >> said
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> something by now
>> >> >> >> > >> > > or
>> before. but i
>> >> am not sure how to
>> >> >> >> > respond to
>> >> >> >> > >> this since
>> >> >> >> > >> > > she
>> never
>> >> >> >> > >> > > spoke
>> much in the
>> >> list and i know she
>> >> >> >> > was in the
>> >> >> >> > >> list since
>> >> >> >> > >> > > she did
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> communicate with
>> >> me long time ago.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > so that
>> is my
>> >> question, does nfb
>> >> >> >> > officials want
>> >> >> >> > >> to get
>> >> >> >> > >> > > involve
>> with
>> >> >> >> > >> > > helping
>> >> internationals and people in
>> >> >> >> > under
>> >> >> >> > >> developed
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> countries? that
>> >> >> >> > >> > > is
>> something i
>> >> can not answer and most
>> >> >> >> > nfb
>> >> >> >> > >> officials are
>> >> >> >> > >> > > quiet on
>> this
>> >> >> >> > >> > > list and
>> some
>> >> don't even respond.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > hina.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>> 8/2/10,
>> >> Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>> >> >> >> > >> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > Hi
>> Jan,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Good
>> >> observation.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Most of the
>> >> time the international
>> >> >> >> > people
>> >> >> >> > >> are the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> underserved as
>> >> they are
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > (we
>> are) not
>> >> included in or
>> >> >> >> > promoted other
>> >> >> >> > >> than being
>> >> >> >> > >> > > a
>> member.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > If
>> we move
>> >> forward and become
>> >> >> >> > leaders other
>> >> >> >> > >> (majority)
>> >> >> >> > >> > > do not
>> like it.
>> >> I
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> know it from
>> >> my personal
>> >> >> >> > experience.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > I
>> have to
>> >> thank the scholarship
>> >> >> >> > committee
>> >> >> >> > >> this year as
>> >> >> >> > >> > > there
>> were many
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> international students who won the
>> >> >> >> > >> scholarships. If
>> we
>> >> >> >> > >> > > could
>> have the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> students
>> >> participate and become
>> >> >> >> > leaders in
>> >> >> >> > >> their own
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> communities we
>> >> will not
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > be
>> >> underserved or impoverished.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Yasmin
>> >> Reyazuddin
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Aging &
>> >> Disability services
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Montgomery
>> >> County Government
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Department
>> >> of Health & human
>> >> >> >> > Services
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> 401
>> >> Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Rockville MD
>> >> 20850
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> 240-777-0311
>> >> (MC311)
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> 240-777-1556
>> >> (personal)
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> 240-777-1495
>> >> (fax)
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> office hours
>> >> 8:30 am 5:00 pm
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Languages
>> >> English, Hindi, Urdu,
>> >> >> >> > Braille
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> This message
>> >> may contain protected
>> >> >> >> > health
>> >> >> >> > >> information
>> >> >> >> > >> > > or
>> other
>> >> information
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> that is
>> >> confidential or privileged.
>> >> >> >> > If you
>> >> >> >> > >> are not the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> intended
>> >> recipient,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> please
>> >> contact the sender by return
>> >> >> >> > mail and
>> >> >> >> > >> destroy
>> >> >> >> > >> > > any
>> copies of
>> >> this
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> material.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Thank you.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
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>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>> Behalf Of jan
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> wright
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Sent:
>> >> Monday, August 02, 2010 3:52
>> >> >> >> > PM
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > To:
>> Blind
>> >> International Students
>> >> >> >> > Mailing
>> >> >> >> > >> List
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Subject:
>> >> Re:
>> >> >> >> >
>> [Blind-international-students]
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > Hi
>> Yasmin,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> That is an
>> >> interesting thought.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > I
>> know Ron
>> >> and I am sure that he
>> >> >> >> > would be
>> >> >> >> > >> open to the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > idea.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > My
>> only
>> >> question is:
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Since
>> >> "underserved,"   has a
>> >> >> >> > >> broader
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> application than
>> >> "international
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> students,"
>> >> do you think that the
>> >> >> >> > >> international
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> community will be
>> >> ....
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> .... last to
>> >> receive support?
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Just a
>> >> question.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Honestly, I
>> >> am not certain, but it
>> >> >> >> > doesn't
>> >> >> >> > >> seem that
>> >> >> >> > >> > > this
>> group is
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> getting much
>> >> notice in the NFB, as
>> >> >> >> > it is.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Anmol had
>> >> some great ideas!
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > We
>> should
>> >> not let them pass as
>> >> >> >> > ideas only.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Jan
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > On
>> 8/2/10,
>> >> hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> what is
>> >> the goal of that group
>> >> >> >> > yasmin?
>> >> >> >> > >> we can do
>> >> >> >> > >> > > it but i
>> would
>> >> like
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> to know
>> >> more about that group
>> >> >> >> > first. and
>> >> >> >> > >> then you
>> >> >> >> > >> > > can send
>> the
>> >> email.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> how is
>> >> it going to help us in
>> >> >> >> > starting a
>> >> >> >> > >> project
>> >> >> >> > >> > > to help
>> people
>> >> in
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> under
>> >> developed countries?
>> >> >> >> > thanks.
>> >> >> >> > >> hina.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> On
>> >> 8/2/10, Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> Hi
>> >> Hena, and all:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> I
>> >> will suggest that we
>> >> >> >> > consider
>> >> >> >> > >> combining two
>> >> >> >> > >> > > groups
>> into one
>> >> and getting
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> what
>> >> we need. The cultural
>> >> >> >> > exchange
>> >> >> >> > >> group
>> >> >> >> > >> > > should
>> join
>> >> forces with the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> committee to empower
>> >> >> >> > underserved
>> >> >> >> > >> population.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> The
>> >> goals are similar and
>> >> >> >> > then we
>> >> >> >> > >> will also
>> >> >> >> > >> > > have the
>> support
>> >> of the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> national
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> office. I can start the
>> >> >> >> > process by
>> >> >> >> > >> sending an
>> >> >> >> > >> > > email to
>> Ron
>> >> Brown who is
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> president of Indiana.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> We
>> >> have a meeting every
>> >> >> >> > year and can
>> >> >> >> > >> do more
>> >> >> >> > >> > > that
>> way.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Yasmin Reyazuddin
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Aging & Disability
>> >> >> >> > services
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Montgomery County
>> >> >> >> > Government
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Department of Health &
>> >> >> >> > human
>> >> >> >> > >> Services
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> 401
>> >> Hungerford Drive (3rd
>> >> >> >> > floor)
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Rockville MD 20850
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> 240-777-0311 (MC311)
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> 240-777-1556 (personal)
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> 240-777-1495 (fax)
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> office hours 8:30 am 5:00
>> >> >> >> > pm
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Languages English, Hindi,
>> >> >> >> > Urdu,
>> >> >> >> > >> Braille
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> This
>> >> message may contain
>> >> >> >> > protected
>> >> >> >> > >> health
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> information or
>> >> other
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> information
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> that
>> >> is confidential or
>> >> >> >> > privileged.
>> >> >> >> > >> If you are
>> >> >> >> > >> > > not the
>> intended
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> recipient,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> please contact the sender
>> >> >> >> > by return
>> >> >> >> > >> mail and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > destroy
>> any
>> >> copies of this
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> material.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Thank you.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>> Behalf Of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> hina
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> altaf
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Sent: Monday, August 02,
>> >> >> >> > 2010 1:38
>> >> >> >> > >> PM
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> To:
>> >> Blind International
>> >> >> >> > Students
>> >> >> >> > >> Mailing List
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >>
>> [Blind-international-students][Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> hi
>> >> anmol,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>  i agree with you and
>> >> >> >> > that's
>> >> >> >> > >> what we
>> >> >> >> > >> > > tried
>> last year
>> >> without much
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> success. i think on this
>> >> >> >> > issue i
>> >> >> >> > >> need to talk
>> >> >> >> > >> > > to you
>> either on
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> phone or online. there are
>> >> >> >> > a lot of
>> >> >> >> > >> issues and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > things
>> that i
>> >> don't
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> feel
>> >> comfortable discussing
>> >> >> >> > on nfb
>> >> >> >> > >> mailing
>> >> >> >> > >> > > list due
>> to some
>> >> reasons
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> which i think we can talk
>> >> >> >> > off list.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> hina.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> On
>> >> 8/2/10, Anmol Bhatia
>> >> >> >> > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Hello Jan and Hina,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Due to reasons which I
>> >> >> >> > do not
>> >> >> >> > >> want to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > mention
>> on the
>> >> list I do not think
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> our
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> list would get much
>> >> >> >> > >> advertisement from
>> the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > NFB
>> officials. So
>> >> this means
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> that
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> more then likely we
>> >> >> >> > will have to
>> >> >> >> > >> self
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> advertise.
>> >> Personally I have been
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> advertising through
>> >> >> >> > word of
>> >> >> >> > >> mouth telling
>> >> >> >> > >> > > my
>> friends or
>> >> anyone who may
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> be
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> interested in joining
>> >> >> >> > or is
>> >> >> >> > >> interested in
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> international
>> >> issues. Also
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> maybe
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> someone can write a
>> >> >> >> > article for
>> >> >> >> > >> Mobility
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> International USA
>> >> (MIUSA)
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> www.miusa.org
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> and it would be
>> >> >> >> > published on
>> >> >> >> > >> their
>> >> >> >> > >> > > webcite.
>> It is a
>> >> non-profit
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> organization
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> which works on
>> >> >> >> > international
>> >> >> >> > >> development
>> >> >> >> > >> > > for
>> people with
>> >> disabilities in
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> other countries and
>> >> >> >> > also
>> >> >> >> > >> promotes
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> international
>> >> travel for individuals
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> with
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> disabilities. Some
>> >> >> >> > things they
>> >> >> >> > >> do is to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > promote
>> study
>> >> abroad
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> opportunities
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> for students with
>> >> >> >> > disabilities
>> >> >> >> > >> and
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> leadership
>> >> trainings for individuals
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> with
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> disabilities. I would
>> >> >> >> > encourage
>> >> >> >> > >> you to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > visit
>> their
>> >> webcite and maybe
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> sign
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> up
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> for their news letter.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Also we may want to
>> >> >> >> > consider
>> >> >> >> > >> sending a
>> >> >> >> > >> > > blerb to
>> various
>> >> list serves that
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> we
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> are on to let people
>> >> >> >> > know that
>> >> >> >> > >> there is a
>> >> >> >> > >> > > list
>> serve for
>> >> international
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> students and for anyone
>> >> >> >> > who
>> >> >> >> > >> wants to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> communicate with
>> >> international
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> students
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> or is interested in
>> >> >> >> > learning
>> >> >> >> > >> about study
>> >> >> >> > >> > > abroad
>> or
>> >> volunteer
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> opportunities
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> abroad. Also someone
>> >> >> >> > could write
>> >> >> >> > >> a article
>> >> >> >> > >> > > for the
>> Student
>> >> Slate (a news
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> letter sponsored by the
>> >> >> >> > NABS "a
>> >> >> >> > >> student
>> >> >> >> > >> > > chapter
>> of the
>> >> NFB") September
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> issue. I would
>> >> >> >> > volunteer to do
>> >> >> >> > >> this but I
>> >> >> >> > >> > > am
>> already
>> >> writing couple of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> articles so it may be a
>> >> >> >> > bit to
>> >> >> >> > >> much.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> The list is on the NFB
>> >> >> >> > >> discussion list.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Infact
>> >> thats how I learned
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> about
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> it, but most people do
>> >> >> >> > not think
>> >> >> >> > >> about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > going to
>> the
>> >> discussion list page
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> therefore are not aware
>> >> >> >> > of it.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Also I think having
>> >> >> >> > regular
>> >> >> >> > >> conference
>> >> >> >> > >> > > calls
>> and some
>> >> fun activities
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> will
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> help generate interest
>> >> >> >> > in the
>> >> >> >> > >> group.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Just some thoughts.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Anmol
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> I seldom think about
>> >> >> >> > my
>> >> >> >> > >> limitations, and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > they
>> never make
>> >> me sad. Perhaps
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> there is just a touch
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> > >> yearning at
>> >> >> >> > >> > > times;
>> but it is
>> >> vague, like a
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> breeze
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> among flowers.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Hellen Keller
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> --- On Mon, 8/2/10,
>> >> >> >> > hina altaf
>> >> >> >> > >> <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> From: hina altaf
>> >> >> >> > <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Subject: Re:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> [Blind-international-students]
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> To: "Blind
>> >> >> >> > International
>> >> >> >> > >> Students
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Mailing
>> List"
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Date: Monday,
>> >> >> >> > August 2,
>> >> >> >> > >> 2010, 12:03
>> >> >> >> > >> > > PM
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> i contacted Diane
>> >> >> >> > >> McGeorge  last
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> year as well about
>> >> >> >> > our group
>> >> >> >> > >> but
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> never got any
>> >> >> >> > reply. well
>> >> >> >> > >> where do you
>> >> >> >> > >> > > want to
>> >> advertise
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> the group?
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> last year i and
>> >> >> >> > philip got
>> >> >> >> > >> an offer to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > do a
>> radio show
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> about our group
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> but we did not do
>> >> >> >> > due to
>> >> >> >> > >> some reason
>> >> >> >> > >> > > that we
>> discussed
>> >> off
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> list. but
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> that is something
>> >> >> >> > we could
>> >> >> >> > >> still
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> consider. hina.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> On 8/2/10, jan
>> >> >> >> > wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Hi Anmol,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Tell us about
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > >> conference in
>> >> >> >> > >> > > DC.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > That sounds
>> >> >> >> > >> interesting.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Yes, I forgot
>> >> >> >> > about the
>> >> >> >> > >> world
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Blind
>> Union.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > I went to
>> >> >> >> > their site in
>> >> >> >> > >> hopes to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > join:
>> but I am
>> >> not
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> part of an
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > organization
>> >> >> >> > and I
>> >> >> >> > >> think that you
>> >> >> >> > >> > > have to
>> have lots
>> >> of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> money to join.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Or, you have
>> >> >> >> > to be part
>> >> >> >> > >> of a
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> blindness
>> >> organization.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Well, Anmol, I
>> >> >> >> > forgot
>> >> >> >> > >> about the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > blind
>> corps
>> >> also.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > I found this
>> >> >> >> > quite
>> >> >> >> > >> interesting.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > I'd like to
>> >> >> >> > know more
>> >> >> >> > >> about it
>> >> >> >> > >> > > and if
>> we could
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> contribute in some
>> >> >> >> > type of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > way.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Yes, I would
>> >> >> >> > be willing
>> >> >> >> > >> to hear
>> >> >> >> > >> > > this
>> woman speak
>> >> on a
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> conference call.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > I have a
>> >> >> >> > meeting on
>> >> >> >> > >> Tuesday, but
>> >> >> >> > >> > > the
>> other days
>> >> are
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> free for me.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > I have emailed
>> >> >> >> > Diane
>> >> >> >> > >> McGeorge
>> >> >> >> > >> > > about
>> this group
>> >> and she
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> has not gotten
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > back with me.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > So, I guess we
>> >> >> >> > will
>> >> >> >> > >> have to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> advertise
>> >> ourselves.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > If we can get
>> >> >> >> > a good
>> >> >> >> > >> description
>> >> >> >> > >> > > about
>> our group
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> together,  then
>> >> >> >> > we
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > can send it to
>> >> >> >> > our
>> >> >> >> > >> divisions and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > state
>> presidents
>> >> for
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> them to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > distribute.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Hey, Hina, you
>> >> >> >> > are
>> >> >> >> > >> moderator of
>> >> >> >> > >> > > the
>> group:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > What do you
>> >> >> >> > think?
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > I don't know,
>> >> >> >> > any
>> >> >> >> > >> thoughts?
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > On 8/2/10,
>> >> >> >> > Imran Ahmed
>> >> >> >> > >> <imran.altaf at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >> What
>> >> >> >> > platform are
>> >> >> >> > >> you using
>> >> >> >> > >> > > to host
>> the
>> >> conference
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> calls? Please
>> >> >> >> > share
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > necessary
>> >> >> >> > >> details so that
>> >> >> >> > >> > > all who
>> are
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> interested, can
>> >> >> >> > participate
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >> in the
>> >> >> >> > conference
>> >> >> >> > >> call.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >> Imran.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >> On 8/2/10,
>> >> >> >> > hina
>> >> >> >> > >> altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> hi
>> >> >> >> > anmol,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>  yes
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > >> is great idea
>> >> >> >> > >> > > to
>> involve more
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> people an d
>> >> >> >> > organizations
>> >> >> >> > >> who
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> might
>> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> > >> interested to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > help
>> people from
>> >> under
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> developed
>> >> >> >> > countries.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> buna
>> >> >> >> > is also on
>> >> >> >> > >> the list,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > i met
>> her last
>> >> year
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> and she is a very
>> >> >> >> > nice
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> lady
>> >> >> >> > who is
>> >> >> >> > >> very
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> successfull in
>> >> overcoming
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> challenges that she
>> >> >> >> > had
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> being
>> >> >> >> > someone
>> >> >> >> > >> from under
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> developed
>> >> countries.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> how did your
>> >> >> >> > conference
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> go? i
>> >> >> >> > wish i
>> >> >> >> > >> could have
>> >> >> >> > >> > > been
>> able to make
>> >> it
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> but due to some
>> >> >> >> > issues i
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> was
>> >> >> >> > not able to
>> >> >> >> > >> attend
>> >> >> >> > >> > > although
>> i
>> >> qualified.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> also i think we
>> >> >> >> > should
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> focuss
>> >> >> >> > on
>> >> >> >> > >> starting one
>> >> >> >> > >> > > project
>> at a time
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> discuss first what
>> >> >> >> > we
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> want
>> >> >> >> > to do. but
>> >> >> >> > >> i will be
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> interested in
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> conference call and
>> >> >> >> > if we
>> >> >> >> > >> can
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> get
>> >> >> >> > some ideas
>> >> >> >> > >> from the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > members
>> as well
>> >> as
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> from some people
>> >> >> >> > who are
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > already serving
>> >> >> >> > >> under
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> developed
>> >> countries in
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> some ways. thanks.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> hina
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> On
>> >> >> >> > 8/1/10,
>> >> >> >> > >> Anmol Bhatia
>> >> >> >> > >> > > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Hello Jan
>> >> >> >> > >> and all,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Sorry it
>> >> >> >> > >> has taken me
>> >> >> >> > >> > > a while
>> to
>> >> respond.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> I was in Washington
>> >> >> >> > D.C.
>> >> >> >> > >> last
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > week
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > for the
>> >> >> >> > >> National
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Council
>> on
>> >> Disability
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Summit and got kind
>> >> >> >> > of busy
>> >> >> >> > >> since
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > returning.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Jan you did
>> >> >> >> > >> pretty
>> >> >> >> > >> > > good
>> job
>> >> summarizing
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> what happened at
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > >> meeting,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > you for got
>> >> >> >> > >> about the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > World
>> Blind
>> >> Union.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Dr. Shroder (NFB's
>> >> >> >> > first
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> vice-president)
>> who
>> >> >> >> > >> > > is
>> active in the
>> >> World
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Blind Union told us
>> >> >> >> > about
>> >> >> >> > >> the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > World Blind
>> >> >> >> > >> Union and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > what it
>> does.
>> >> Also
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Buna Dahal told us
>> >> >> >> > about
>> >> >> >> > >> her
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > experience
>> >> >> >> > >> about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > growing
>> in Nepal
>> >> as the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> only person in her
>> >> >> >> > family
>> >> >> >> > >> who
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > blind and
>> >> >> >> > >> some of the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> challenges she
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> faced. She also
>> >> >> >> > told us
>> >> >> >> > >> about the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Blind
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Core (like
>> >> >> >> > >> the Peace
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Core)
>> except a
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> organization which
>> >> >> >> > serves
>> >> >> >> > >> blind
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > people.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Perhaps
>> >> >> >> > >> this can be
>> >> >> >> > >> > > one of
>> our
>> >> adopted
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> project that we as
>> >> >> >> > a group
>> >> >> >> > >> of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > interested
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> Federationest who
>> >> are
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> interested in help
>> >> >> >> > blind
>> >> >> >> > >> kids in less
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > developed
>> >> >> >> > >> countries
>> >> >> >> > >> > > can work
>> with.
>> >> Also
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> last week I met a
>> >> >> >> > lady who
>> >> >> >> > >> is
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > doing
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > some work
>> >> >> >> > >> in
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Ecuador
>> to train
>> >> and assist
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> the disabled
>> >> >> >> > population
>> >> >> >> > >> there.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>> I
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > am
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > thinking
>> >> >> >> > >> about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > holding
>> a
>> >> conference call
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> next weekend so
>> >> >> >> > that the
>> >> >> >> > >> lady
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > who
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>> I
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > met can
>> >> >> >> > >> tell us about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > her work
>> and
>> >> what
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> she does. If I held
>> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> > >> conference
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > call would
>> >> >> >> > >> you
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> attend?
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Also Jan I
>> >> >> >> > >> actually
>> >> >> >> > >> > > thought
>> about
>> >> this
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> mailing list at the
>> >> >> >> > meeting,
>> >> >> >> > >> but
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>> be
>> >> >> >> > quit
>> >> >> >> > >> frank I felt
>> >> >> >> > >> > > that I
>> was
>> >> hogging
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> the discussione so
>> >> >> >> > decided
>> >> >> >> > >> to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > keep
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>> my
>> >> >> >> > mouth
>> >> >> >> > >> shut. But I
>> >> >> >> > >> > > wish I
>> would
>> >> have
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> said something or
>> >> >> >> > atleast
>> >> >> >> > >> got
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > everyone's
>> >> >> >> > >> email
>> >> >> >> > >> > > address
>> so that
>> >> we could
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> have formed some
>> >> >> >> > sort of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> communication.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Anmol
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>> I
>> >> >> >> > seldom
>> >> >> >> > >> think about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > my
>> limitations,
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> they never make me
>> >> >> >> > sad.
>> >> >> >> > >> Perhaps
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > there is
>> >> >> >> > >> just a touch
>> >> >> >> > >> > > of
>> yearning at
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> times; but it is
>> >> >> >> > vague, like
>> >> >> >> > >> a
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > breeze
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > among
>> >> >> >> > >> flowers.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Hellen
>> >> >> >> > >> Keller
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > --- On Sat,
>> >> >> >> > >> 7/24/10,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > jan
>> wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> From:
>> >> >> >> > >> jan wright
>> >> >> >> > >> > > <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> Subject: Re:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> [Blind-international-students]
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> To:
>> >> >> >> > >> "Blind
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> International
>> >> Students
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Mailing List"
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> Date:
>> >> >> >> > >> Saturday,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > July 24,
>> 2010,
>> >> 6:43
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> PM
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> Hi
>> >> >> >> > >> All,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> I
>> will
>> >> >> >> > >> give a
>> >> >> >> > >> > > summary
>> of what
>> >> went on
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> during the meeting
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> (as
>> it
>> >> >> >> > >> refers
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> to
>> this
>> >> >> >> > >> list or
>> >> >> >> > >> > > things
>> that we
>> >> can do
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> on our own).
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> Please,
>> >> >> >> > >> Anmol,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > chime in
>> if I
>> >> either
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> forget something
>> >> >> >> > or
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> present
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> something
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> incorrectly.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> We
>> >> >> >> > >> discussed
>> >> >> >> > >> > > making
>> books
>> >> more
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> accessible for
>> >> >> >> > those who do
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> not
>> >> >> >> > >> live in the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > USA.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> We
>> all
>> >> >> >> > >> know about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > the
>> strict laws
>> >> of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> the Library of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> Congress and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > NLS.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> There
>> >> >> >> > >> was some
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> discussion about
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> library in
>> >> >> >> > Australia
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> and
>> how
>> >> >> >> > >> they
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> were
>> >> >> >> > >> trying to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > help
>> others have
>> >> access
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> to both braille
>> >> >> >> > (at
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> least
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> technical
>> >> >> >> > >> > > braille)
>> and
>> >> audio books.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> But,
>> >> >> >> > >> there were
>> >> >> >> > >> > > no
>> suggestions as
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> how we might
>> >> >> >> > assist
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> the
>> >> >> >> > >> process.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> We
>> >> >> >> > >> talked about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > sending
>> items
>> >> abroad.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> Some
>> >> >> >> > >> people
>> >> >> >> > >> > > wanted
>> to have a
>> >> drive to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> collect equipment
>> >> >> >> > or
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> products
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> for
>> the
>> >> >> >> > >> blind and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > send
>> them to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> developing
>> >> >> >> > countries.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> There
>> >> >> >> > >> was some
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> discussion about
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> postal fees.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> Apparently these
>> >> >> >> > >> > > fees
>> have
>> >> hindered
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> people from
>> >> >> >> > sending
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> large
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> quantities of
>> >> >> >> > >> > > products
>> to
>> >> other
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> countries.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> It
>> was
>> >> >> >> > >> suggested
>> >> >> >> > >> > > that if
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