[Blind-international-students] introducing myself andcommentsonyour discussion

Imran Ahmed imran.altaf at gmail.com
Thu Aug 5 20:44:34 UTC 2010


Because of my scheduled move to Indianapolis this weekend, I will not
be able to spare time if the meeting is held this week.
Thanks,
Imran.

On 8/5/10, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I agree. There is a free conference call service that my friend told me
> about but I failed to write down the number he gave me. I will check into it
> and let everyone know. The chat line I don't think will be appropreate for
> this situation since it is more of a social chat line and may drive people
> away. So for situation like this we need something a little more formal. So
> how about we have a social get to know you conference this weekend? How many
> of us can attend if it is this weekend? Let me know. Also Hina do you want
> to write a one page add for this group to put in the Student Slate (the
> newletter sent out by NABS)?
> Anmol
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze
> among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
>
>
> --- On Thu, 8/5/10, hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>> andcommentsonyour discussion
>> To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 3:16 PM
>> anmol i think first meeting should be
>> just social get together on the
>> conference. a lot  of us only know each other through
>> emails and never
>> spoke to one another directly. i think we should first have
>> a social
>> meeting  so  everyone is  introduced
>> to   each other. do we have a
>> free number that we could use to host our conference anmol?
>> the chat
>> line you once gave me, maybe there but i don't want any
>> other
>> intruptions. it should be just our blind international
>> group and our
>> speakers. but in this first one we should just meet one
>> another rather
>> then starting it too formal. some people are still new and
>> need to be
>> comfortable with each other.
>> hina.
>>
>> On 8/5/10, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hello Jan,
>> > Great points! I would like to do it this weekend but
>> maybe to much of a
>> > short notice.
>> > My thinking was to ask a person who I met during my
>> trip to Washington and
>> > see if she would do a presentation the project she is
>> doing on international
>> > development for people with  disabilities. Maybe
>> let her speak for about
>> > half-hour, take questions for about 15 minutes and
>> then we can move to
>> > discussion for 15 minutes or how ever long people want
>> to stay on. We could
>> > start with some of the points but the conference calls
>> will have to be on
>> > going. At some point maybe if anyone knows of a
>> immigration lawyer who would
>> > be willing to do some free consoltation maybe that
>> could be one of our guest
>> > speak. I would personally like this and alot of
>> international students could
>> > benefit from this. I suggest that Hina as one of the
>> list moderators be our
>> > leader for this conference calls until we can figure
>> out the leadership
>> > structure. Any thoughts?
>> >
>> > Anmol
>> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
>> make me sad. Perhaps
>> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
>> vague, like a breeze
>> > among flowers.
>> > Hellen Keller
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Thu, 8/5/10, jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
>> introducing myself
>> >> andcommentsonyour discussion
>> >> To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
>> >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 1:14 PM
>> >>  Hi All,
>> >> So, are we scheduling a conference call?
>> >> What shall be our agenda?
>> >> ... not necessarily in this order....
>> >>
>> >> 1. Hina and Anmol have mentioned the astronomical
>> >> expense  of an
>> >> international student. Is there something that we
>> can do
>> >> about it?
>> >> 2. Imran has mentioned the need for some type of
>> reach/out
>> >> and support
>> >> for international students. How can we find
>> international
>> >> students? Is
>> >> there a way that we can be informed when they
>> arrive so
>> >> that we can
>> >> offer a network of ....  "mentors" if you will?
>> As
>> >> well as finding a
>> >> way to give them all the information that they
>> might need
>> >> both about
>> >> blindness and their unique status as
>> international
>> >> students.
>> >>    3. How can we respond to those blind
>> >> people who are not in America?
>> >> Should we try to implement projects collectively
>> or
>> >> individually? If
>> >> we don't work with agencies that are already
>> structured,
>> >> then we will
>> >> need to find individuals as our liasons.
>> >> 5. Should we have a division of the NFB? (We have
>> enough
>> >> members). We
>> >> could write a constitution and elect officers.
>> Or,
>> >> Should we form a
>> >> formal organization independent of the nfb?
>> Discussion
>> >> about pros and
>> >> cons of affiliating with NFB or other
>> organization. What
>> >> about Anmol's
>> >> org MIUSA? What about American Foundation or
>> ......
>> >> others?
>> >> 6. Should we form a formal statement of goals,
>> guidelines
>> >> or anything else?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 8/4/10, Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > yes, i do understand. but still we need to be
>> careful
>> >> dear friend.
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Carly Mihalakis" <carlymih at earthlink.net>
>> >> > To: "Blind International Students Mailing
>> List"
>> >> > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 6:09 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
>> >> introducing myself
>> >> > andcommentsonyour discussion
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi, Heena,
>> >> >
>> >> >          I do not feel my
>> >> reference to a "son of a bitch" was used in
>> >> > a way that was gratuitous, but an accurate
>> albeit
>> >> colorful
>> >> > description of the Obama aproach approach of
>> ruling
>> >> this fair land.
>> >> > Examine the context please, Heena.
>> >> > C.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Not just a single war in Iraq but
>> can't you
>> >> hear the war drums
>> >> >> > beating from Afghanistan, Pakistan
>> and North
>> >> Korea all awaiting US
>> >> >> > invasion, for the crime of
>> nonconformance to
>> >> American values?
>> >> >> > It seems, Obama would rather invest
>> in taking
>> >> life away, and
>> >> >> > destroying perfectly viable
>> infrastructure
>> >> than to actually channel
>> >> >> > resources for the long term health
>> care
>> >> of People.
>> >> >> > He's an ever calculating son of a
>> bitch, and
>> >> nobody better start
>> >> >> > accusing me of being a racist or any
>> such
>> >> slander because   Obama
>> >> >> > keeps as far away from Black affairs
>> as
>> >> possible, even if it means
>> >> >> > throwing prominent Black figures
>> under
>> >> that bus.
>> >> >> > Car
>> >> >> >>The cost to the USA
>> infrastructure of
>> >> having a war in Iraq is also
>> >> >> >>bloody
>> >> >> >>prohibitive, doesn't seem to stop
>> our
>> >> leaders from doing so.
>> >> >> >>It's perhaps a question of
>> priorities.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Dan W.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> On Behalf Of
>> >> >> >>Guido
>> >> >> >>Corona
>> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
>> 10:55 AM
>> >> >> >>To: 'Blind International Students
>> Mailing
>> >> List'
>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducingmyself
>> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Dan, not quite sure if this has
>> been
>> >> mentioned, but the current cost of
>> >> >> >>a
>> >> >> >>money identifier is $99, not $300
>> as
>> >> suggested.  ... See below.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>As for changing to a multi-size
>> bill
>> >> system,  it simply will not happen.
>> >> >> >>The cost to the USA
>> infrastructure would
>> >> be prohibitive if the rationale
>> >> >> >>remains purely an accessibility
>> >> standpoint, for which there is a
>> >> >> >>multiplicity of
>> workarounds/alternatives.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>* * * *
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >From the Braille Monitor for
>> December
>> >> 2009 at:
>> >> >> >>http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm09/bm0911/bm091118.htm
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>New Money Identifier Available:
>> >> >> >>We received the following press
>> release
>> >> describing a new money
>> >> >> >>identifier
>> >> >> >>now available in the United
>> States. Here,
>> >> in part, is the text of this
>> >> >> >>announcement:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Orbit Research has announced the
>> >> introduction of the iBill, the world's
>> >> >> >>first affordable talking
>> banknote
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>> >> >> >>vision-impaired.
>> >> >> >>Priced at $99, the 1.5 ounce
>> pager-sized
>> >> iBill represents a breakthrough
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>in
>> >> >> >>enabling blind and vision
>> impaired people
>> >> to achieve independence in the
>> >> >> >>everyday
>> >> >> >>necessity of using paper
>> currency. At
>> >> about a third of the cost of
>> >> >> >>existing
>> >> >> >>devices, the iBill offers
>> unrivaled
>> >> features, ease of use, and accuracy
>> >> >> >>of
>> >> >> >>identification.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>The iBill is an exceptionally
>> convenient
>> >> and affordable solution that
>> >> >> >>blind
>> >> >> >>and vision-impaired people can
>> use.
>> >> Measuring just 3 inches by 1.6
>> >> >> >>inches
>> >> >> >> by
>> >> >> >>0.7 inches, the ultra-slim and
>> compact
>> >> key-fob design provides the
>> >> >> >>ultimate
>> >> >> >>in convenience, allowing it to be
>> carried
>> >> unobtrusively in a pocket or
>> >> >> >>purse,
>> >> >> >>clipped to a belt, or attached to
>> a
>> >> keychain or lanyard. Among the
>> >> >> >>features
>> >> >> >>that set it apart from other such
>> devices
>> >> are its high accuracy (better
>> >> >> >> than
>> >> >> >>99.9 percent) and the
>> near-instantaneous
>> >> speed (less than one second in
>> >> >> >> most
>> >> >> >>cases) with which it identifies
>> >> banknotes.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>The iBill provides the simplest,
>> fastest,
>> >> and most accurate means to
>> >> >> >>identify U.S. banknotes. Its
>> unique
>> >> ergonomic design permits easy and
>> >> >> >>intuitive use
>> >> >> >>without training or practice.
>> When a
>> >> banknote is inserted into the
>> >> >> >>device,
>> >> >> >>its denomination is identified at
>> the
>> >> press of a button. Based on the
>> >> >> >> user's
>> >> >> >>preference, the denomination is
>> announced
>> >> by a clear and natural voice
>> >> >> >>or
>> >> >> >> by
>> >> >> >>tone or vibration for privacy.
>> The unit
>> >> identifies all U.S. banknotes in
>> >> >> >>circulation
>> >> >> >>and recognizes them in any
>> orientation.
>> >> Banknotes in poor physical
>> >> >> >> condition
>> >> >> >>are indicated as unidentifiable
>> and are
>> >> not misread. The unit is also
>> >> >> >>upgradeable
>> >> >> >>to recognize new banknote
>> designs.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>The iBill achieves all of this
>> while
>> >> operating on a single, commonly
>> >> >> >>available AAA battery, which
>> lasts for
>> >> over a year with typical use. Its
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>> >> >> >>and sealed design ensure
>> trouble-free use.
>> >> The unit is backed by a
>> >> >> >>one-year
>> >> >> >>warranty from Orbit Research,
>> and
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>> >> >> >>available.
>> >> >> >>
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>> Orbit
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>> >> 606-7248;
>> >> >> >><http://www.orbitresearch.com>.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Guido D. Corona
>> >> >> >>Email: guidoc at austin.rr.com
>> >> >> >>Home office: (512) 996-9187
>> >> >> >>Mobile: (512) 466-1322
>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> On Behalf Of
>> >> >> >>Dan
>> >> >> >>Weiner
>> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
>> 9:17 AM
>> >> >> >>To: 'Blind International Students
>> Mailing
>> >> List'
>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Wait, the NFB, our NFB which
>> claims that
>> >> any adaptation to money would
>> >> >> >> cause
>> >> >> >>the sighted to think less of our
>> ability
>> >> to handle money, this NFB now
>> >> >> >> wants
>> >> >> >>to study tactile identification
>> for
>> >> money?
>> >> >> >>Why do that, blindness is
>> reduced, with
>> >> proper training and tecnique, to
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >>level of a nuisance.
>> >> >> >>Just because we have to ask
>> people what
>> >> our money is and someone could
>> >> >> >>give
>> >> >> >>us a load of bull shit  and tell
>> us
>> >> it's a five when it's a ten, doesn't
>> >> >> >>mean we should do anything about
>> it.
>> >> >> >>The proceeding was sarcasm for
>> those who
>> >> didn't guess--smile.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Most of the countries I have
>> visited
>> >> have paper money of different
>> >> >> >>sizes
>> >> >> >>and not too many people in these
>> countries
>> >> use our folding method of
>> >> >> >>money
>> >> >> >>identifying.
>> >> >> >>The Japanese actually told me
>> bluntly it
>> >> sounded weird--smile.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>A money identifyer, to quote our
>> friend
>> >> Carlie, is a bunch of crap, or
>> >> >> >>something like that.
>> >> >> >>Many aren't reliable and they
>> cost money.
>> >> >> >>At $300.00 for the Note Teller,
>> that means
>> >> a person getting six hundred
>> >> >> >>dollars social security wouldn't
>> be able
>> >> to eat that month.
>> >> >> >>Now, granted there are other
>> models, but I
>> >> haven't tried them yet.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Speaking of Carlie, I sincerely
>> apologize
>> >> for not being in touch, I
>> >> >> >>don't
>> >> >> >>know what I did with your Email
>> in which
>> >> you sent me contact info, so
>> >> >> >> please
>> >> >> >>write me again at:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>I think our Federation is
>> somewhat
>> >> selective on the projects we take on.
>> >> >> >>If we don't want to take it on,
>> then our
>> >> leaders say it's not necessary
>> >> >> >>rather than  saying we just
>> don't
>> >> have the time or inclination to deal
>> >> >> >>with
>> >> >> >>it.
>> >> >> >>I'm pretty sick of the organized
>> blind
>> >> movement as far as things like
>> >> >> >>that
>> >> >> >>are concerned, both ACB and NFB.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Cordially,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Dan W.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> On Behalf Of
>> >> >> >>Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
>> 8:30 AM
>> >> >> >>To: Blind International Students
>> Mailing
>> >> List
>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Hi Anmol, and others
>> >> >> >>I just read many of the emails
>> about the
>> >> blind international division
>> >> >> >>and
>> >> >> >>the issue about money identifier.
>> I would
>> >> like to say this much about
>> >> >> >> money.
>> >> >> >>The NFB has been working for the
>> last two
>> >> years to get some kind of
>> >> >> >>tactile
>> >> >> >>identification system on the
>> paper bills.
>> >> Some of us who are totally
>> >> >> >>blind
>> >> >> >>are participating in a study. We
>> may have
>> >> the results by next year.
>> >> >> >>The second issue some have
>> brought up is
>> >> being independent. There is a
>> >> >> >>wonderful speech by Dr. Jernigan,
>> "The
>> >> Nature of Independence" It is
>> >> >> >>available on the NFB website. I
>> suggest
>> >> that you read it. Asking for
>> >> >> >>help
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >>not new. Even sighted people ask
>> for it.
>> >> >> >>I will say that a division will
>> be good. I
>> >> think that committee meetings
>> >> >> >>have happened enough.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Yasmin Reyazuddin
>> >> >> >>Aging & Disability services
>> >> >> >>Montgomery County Government
>> >> >> >>Department of Health & human
>> Services
>> >> >> >>401 Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
>> >> >> >>Rockville MD 20850
>> >> >> >>240-777-0311 (MC311)
>> >> >> >>240-777-1556 (personal)
>> >> >> >>240-777-1495 (fax)
>> >> >> >>office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
>> >> >> >>Languages English, Hindi, Urdu,
>> Braille
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>This message may contain
>> protected health
>> >> information or other
>> >> >> >>information
>> >> >> >>that is confidential or
>> privileged. If you
>> >> are not the intended
>> >> >> >>recipient,
>> >> >> >>please contact the sender by
>> return mail
>> >> and destroy any copies of this
>> >> >> >>material.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Thank you.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> On Behalf Of
>> >> >> >>Anmol
>> >> >> >>Bhatia
>> >> >> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010
>> 9:30 PM
>> >> >> >>To: Blind International Students
>> Mailing
>> >> List
>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>> >> >> >> andcommentson
>> >> >> >>your discussion
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Hello Reyazuddin,,
>> >> >> >>The sad reality is that the same
>> is true
>> >> for the schools for the blind
>> >> >> >>in
>> >> >> >>the United States. The Arkansas
>> School for
>> >> the Blind was not the same
>> >> >> >>when
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >>graduated from there as it was
>> when I
>> >> started there. I often blind
>> >> >> >>people
>> >> >> >>that we are our own worst
>> enemies. It is a
>> >> pleg which has hit blind
>> >> >> >>community, blind schools, blind
>> >> organizations and professnals serving
>> >> >> >>the
>> >> >> >>blind community and we need a
>> quick cure!
>> >> lol
>> >> >> >>However, our generation "our
>> generation
>> >> and beyound" can not let the
>> >> >> >>same
>> >> >> >>happen when we come in
>> leadership
>> >> positions. I am also from India and
>> >> >> >> always
>> >> >> >>like to meet other blind people
>> from
>> >> India.
>> >> >> >>Anmol
>> >> >> >>I seldom think about my
>> limitations, and
>> >> they never make me sad. Perhaps
>> >> >> >>there is just a touch of yearning
>> at
>> >> times; but it is vague, like a
>> >> >> >>breeze
>> >> >> >>among flowers.
>> >> >> >>Hellen Keller
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Reyazuddin,
>> Yasmin
>> >> >> >><Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > From: Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>> >> >> >> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>> >> >> >> > Subject: Re:
>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>> and
>> >> >> >>commentson your discussion
>> >> >> >> > To: "Blind International
>> Students
>> >> Mailing List"
>> >> >> >><blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> >> > Date: Tuesday, August 3,
>> 2010, 3:10
>> >> PM
>> >> >> >> > Hi Jan,
>> >> >> >> > I like your idea. We all
>> have to
>> >> think about what is
>> >> >> >> > important. For the group. I
>> have not
>> >> shared but here it is.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Last November I went to
>> India, and
>> >> visited my old school.
>> >> >> >> > This used to be a very good
>> school
>> >> when I went there. We had
>> >> >> >> > blind teachers and some
>> sighted
>> >> teachers. There were blind
>> >> >> >> > people working in different
>> jobs.
>> >> >> >> > I found out that the school
>> has gone
>> >> down hill, meaning
>> >> >> >> > there is no hope for the
>> students.
>> >> The school administration
>> >> >> >> > does not serve the blind
>> community.
>> >> They serve their own
>> >> >> >> > pockets. They have very few
>> real
>> >> teachers and the rest are
>> >> >> >> > administration pets.
>> >> >> >> > When I went there, the
>> security
>> >> guard told me that I was
>> >> >> >> > not welcome. The school was
>> closed
>> >> and no staff was there. I
>> >> >> >> > persisted and went in. I
>> met some of
>> >> my old teachers who
>> >> >> >> > gave me the bad news. The
>> school
>> >> administration and the
>> >> >> >> > teachers are fighting
>> against each
>> >> other. There are human
>> >> >> >> > rights violations of all
>> levels.
>> >> >> >> > Blind graduates of the
>> school are no
>> >> longer able to go to
>> >> >> >> > college and they can not
>> get jobs.
>> >> >> >> > Students at the school are
>> not
>> >> getting any assistance or
>> >> >> >> > education. If you have a
>> will you
>> >> may get through but it is
>> >> >> >> > very difficult.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I am sure that many others
>> will have
>> >> similar stories.
>> >> >> >> > Right now I am mentoring a
>> young
>> >> blind man who lives in
>> >> >> >> > India by email.
>> >> >> >> > I am sorry if this is not
>> the right
>> >> forum for this
>> >> >> >> > discussion.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Yasmin Reyazuddin
>> >> >> >> > Aging & Disability
>> services
>> >> >> >> > Montgomery County
>> Government
>> >> >> >> > Department of Health &
>> human
>> >> Services
>> >> >> >> > 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd
>> floor)
>> >> >> >> > Rockville MD 20850
>> >> >> >> > 240-777-0311 (MC311)
>> >> >> >> > 240-777-1556 (personal)
>> >> >> >> > 240-777-1495 (fax)
>> >> >> >> > office hours 8:30 am 5:00
>> pm
>> >> >> >> > Languages English, Hindi,
>> Urdu,
>> >> Braille
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > This message may contain
>> protected
>> >> health information or
>> >> >> >> > other information that is
>> >> confidential or privileged. If you
>> >> >> >> > are not the intended
>> recipient,
>> >> please contact the sender by
>> >> >> >> > return mail and destroy any
>> copies
>> >> of this material.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thank you.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> >> > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> >> >> > On Behalf Of jan wright
>> >> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03,
>> 2010 3:40
>> >> PM
>> >> >> >> > To: Blind International
>> Students
>> >> Mailing List
>> >> >> >> > Subject: Re:
>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing
>> >> >> >> > myself and commentson your
>> >> discussion
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >   Hi Jim, Yasmin and
>> >> Anmol,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Anmol, I will ask:
>> >> >> >> > What part of the Nfb
>> philosophy do
>> >> you find does not fit
>> >> >> >> > into the
>> >> >> >> > category of "positive."
>> >> >> >> > In short, which part do you
>> have a
>> >> difficult time
>> >> >> >> > supporting?
>> >> >> >> > We all -- well most of us,
>> have
>> >> certain things that we are
>> >> >> >> > passionate
>> >> >> >> > about within the NFB and
>> some things
>> >> that we are not as
>> >> >> >> > passionate about.
>> >> >> >> > Some of us are passionate
>> about
>> >> braille! Others are
>> >> >> >> > passionate about
>> >> >> >> > independent travel. Others
>> are
>> >> passionate about the "image
>> >> >> >> > of the
>> >> >> >> > blind in public."
>> >> >> >> > I must admit:
>> >> >> >> > There are parts of the
>> philosophy
>> >> that I support
>> >> >> >> > whole-heartedly.
>> >> >> >> > For example: I do believe
>> that
>> >> everyone should have a
>> >> >> >> > chance to learn
>> >> >> >> > braille as a viable way of
>> >> communicating.
>> >> >> >> > I believe that blind people
>> should
>> >> be taught by blind
>> >> >> >> > people.
>> >> >> >> > But, (one example of my
>> >> divergence)  I did hear that
>> >> >> >> > in the philosophy
>> >> >> >> > that the NFB is skeptical
>> (and does
>> >> not care) to work with
>> >> >> >> > other
>> >> >> >> > organizations of disabled
>> people.
>> >> >> >> > They say that if they work
>> with
>> >> other disabled people's
>> >> >> >> > organizations,
>> >> >> >> > blind people get  put on
>> the
>> >> backburner.
>> >> >> >> > I understand this
>> skepticism. But, I
>> >> would encourage us to
>> >> >> >> > still try
>> >> >> >> > to work with other
>> organizations -
>> >> yet, have our goal
>> >> >> >> > firmly planted
>> >> >> >> > in our mind.
>> >> >> >> > So, you might say that I
>> "disagree,"
>> >> with that portion of
>> >> >> >> > the philosophy.
>> >> >> >> > But, for me:
>> >> >> >> > I am in the nfb because I
>> want to
>> >> help blind people achieve
>> >> >> >> > their
>> >> >> >> > highest  potential.
>> >> >> >> > I want to show us (I am not
>> so
>> >> worried about that fickle
>> >> >> >> > sighted
>> >> >> >> > public) that We can live
>> the life
>> >> that we want.
>> >> >> >> > We can be parents.
>> >> >> >> > We can be professionals.
>> >> >> >> > We can go on trips
>> independently.
>> >> >> >> > We can enjoy activities
>> such as
>> >> sports, games, playing an
>> >> >> >> > instrument,
>> >> >> >> > picnics, etc.
>> >> >> >> > We can worship as we
>> choose.
>> >> >> >> > We can go to college.
>> >> >> >> > We can have a career.
>> >> >> >> > We can live fulfilling
>> lives full of
>> >> all of the events
>> >> >> >> > that  are
>> >> >> >> > present in the lives of
>> the
>> >> sighted.
>> >> >> >> > That is why I am here.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > And, maybe that is what we
>> can take
>> >> to other countries.
>> >> >> >> > Thoughts?????
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > There are organizations in
>> other
>> >> countries.
>> >> >> >> > Does the world Blind Union
>> have a
>> >> listing of these
>> >> >> >> > organizations in
>> >> >> >> > each country?
>> >> >> >> > I have found some, but not
>> many.
>> >> >> >> > I thought that one thing
>> that the
>> >> World Blind Union can do
>> >> >> >> > is to
>> >> >> >> > provide an international
>> directory
>> >> of organizations and
>> >> >> >> > services for
>> >> >> >> > the blind.
>> >> >> >> > It would also be nice if
>> they could
>> >> help with an internet
>> >> >> >> > site and
>> >> >> >> > a bit of email.
>> >> >> >> > Yes, I have seen the
>> International
>> >> Library Service provide
>> >> >> >> > a small
>> >> >> >> > list, but it is out of
>> date, I am
>> >> positive.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Blind corps, well, I will
>> have to
>> >> google this.
>> >> >> >> > Do they only go to
>> turkey?????
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I am sorry to hear about
>> Robert
>> >> Leslie Newman.
>> >> >> >> > I  always enjoyed the
>> thought
>> >> provoker and hope that
>> >> >> >> > someday, a writer
>> >> >> >> > takes it on.
>> >> >> >> > Jan
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On 8/3/10, Anmol Bhatia
>> <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > Hello James,
>> >> >> >> > > First and for most
>> welcome to
>> >> the list.
>> >> >> >> > > I like Hina ecco the
>> value that
>> >> people like you and
>> >> >> >> > Jan bring to
>> >> >> >> > > international students
>> and for
>> >> blind individuals in
>> >> >> >> > under developed
>> >> >> >> > > countries.
>> >> >> >> > > During the Inter
>> Cultural
>> >> Exchange Committee meeting,
>> >> >> >> > Buna Dahal, one of the
>> >> >> >> > > co-founders of Blind
>> Core did a
>> >> presentation on Blind
>> >> >> >> > Cor and as I mentioned
>> >> >> >> > > to the group
>> sometime ago
>> >> on the discussion that
>> >> >> >> > maybe this can be one of
>> >> >> >> > > our adopted projects.
>> >> >> >> > > I actually met the
>> young lady
>> >> from Japan whom you were
>> >> >> >> > refering to at the
>> >> >> >> > > Travel and Tureism
>> chapter
>> >> meeting. To be quite
>> >> >> >> > honest, she provided me
>> with
>> >> >> >> > > her contact
>> information and I
>> >> accidently deleted it so
>> >> >> >> > if it would be
>> >> >> >> > > possible for you to
>> get her
>> >> contact information and
>> >> >> >> > email me off list I
>> >> >> >> > > would really
>> appreciate it.
>> >> >> >> > > This brings up another
>> idea!
>> >> Maybe we could advertise
>> >> >> >> > with the Travel and
>> >> >> >> > > Tureism group and send
>> out a
>> >> flyer on their list
>> >> >> >> > serve. I am pretty sure
>> >> >> >> > > there would be members
>> in this
>> >> group who would love to
>> >> >> >> > connect with
>> >> >> >> > > international students
>> and
>> >> possibley do some
>> >> >> >> > international development
>> >> >> >> > > project.
>> >> >> >> > > I am glad you brought
>> the point
>> >> about starting a
>> >> >> >> > special interest
>> >> >> >> > > international division
>> within
>> >> NFB. I think we would
>> >> >> >> > have more supporters
>> >> >> >> > > then not. As you
>> mentioned that
>> >> most people would
>> >> >> >> > enthusiastically support
>> >> >> >> > > us and this is true
>> and these
>> >> people would also bring
>> >> >> >> > our group value. My
>> >> >> >> > > vision is that our
>> group
>> >> would consist of
>> >> >> >> > international students,
>> people
>> >> >> >> > > who care deeply about
>> >> international students such as
>> >> >> >> > yourself and Jan and
>> >> >> >> > > Americans who are
>> interested in
>> >> travel abroad eather
>> >> >> >> > for studies or just
>> >> >> >> > > travel or are
>> interested in
>> >> making international
>> >> >> >> > friends. I think we would
>> >> >> >> > > also have alot of
>> second
>> >> generation US citizens
>> >> >> >> > meaning those who are
>> >> >> >> > > naturalized  US
>> citizens.
>> >> I met a person who was a
>> >> >> >> > naturalized  US citizen
>> >> >> >> > > but said he will
>> always be
>> >> international in heart.
>> >> >> >> > > In addition, we would
>> have
>> >> supportors who may not
>> >> >> >> > Necessarily  be active
>> >> >> >> > > with our group,  but
>> would
>> >> be supportors  of our
>> >> >> >> > cause. As you mentioned,
>> >> >> >> > > there will certainly
>> be a few
>> >> who would be hostile to
>> >> >> >> > our cause and
>> >> >> >> > > existence but these
>> will be
>> >> few. One thing I have
>> >> >> >> > learned in more then 20
>> >> >> >> > > years of living in the
>> United
>> >> States is that people
>> >> >> >> > who are hostile towards
>> >> >> >> > > international students
>> and
>> >> people who are not lucky
>> >> >> >> > enough to be US citizens
>> >> >> >> > > are usually the same
>> people who
>> >> hold negative attitude
>> >> >> >> > towards many things
>> >> >> >> > > including blindness
>> and are
>> >> usually the people who are
>> >> >> >> > self serving meaning
>> >> >> >> > > only think about what
>> is best
>> >> for them. I have learned
>> >> >> >> > through experience
>> >> >> >> > > that it is best just
>> to ignore
>> >> these people.
>> >> >> >> > > As you mentioned the
>> benefit a
>> >> organized special
>> >> >> >> > interest  group for us is
>> >> >> >> > > that it would allow us
>> to have
>> >> a leadership structure,
>> >> >> >> > allow us to open up a
>> >> >> >> > > bank account and allow
>> us to
>> >> rais funds.
>> >> >> >> > > I like the idea of
>> writing up a
>> >> one page add and
>> >> >> >> > distribute it to various
>> >> >> >> > > groups and anywhere
>> else we may
>> >> be able to recruit. My
>> >> >> >> > suggestion is that we
>> >> >> >> > > have a conference call
>> maybe as
>> >> soon  as this
>> >> >> >> > weekend to discuss the
>> content
>> >> >> >> > > of the add and
>> brainstorm of
>> >> places where we could
>> >> >> >> > advertise. Any thoughts?
>> >> >> >> > > Jim you brought up
>> another
>> >> advantage of our group and
>> >> >> >> > this list. Amazing how
>> >> >> >> > > ideas pop up in one's
>> mind!
>> >> When you mentioned that
>> >> >> >> > you were Hina's pen-pal,
>> >> >> >> > > it occured to me that
>> this
>> >> group would be excellent
>> >> >> >> > place to build pen-pal
>> >> >> >> > > relationships with
>> blind
>> >> individuals in other
>> >> >> >> > countries. To be quite
>> frank a
>> >> >> >> > > teacher at the
>> Arkansas School
>> >> for the Blind
>> >> >> >> > encouraged me to find a
>> pen-pal
>> >> >> >> > > but I was simply just
>> to lazy
>> >> to do it. This were the
>> >> >> >> > days of writing and
>> >> >> >> > > mailing the letter
>> before the
>> >> days of email and
>> >> >> >> > internet. Amazing how
>> >> >> >> > > technology has changed
>> even
>> >> with communicating with
>> >> >> >> > pen-pal!
>> >> >> >> > > Anyways, Jim welcome
>> to the
>> >> list and please give
>> >> >> >> > Robbert Lesliy Newman our
>> >> >> >> > > best regard and wish
>> him
>> >> speady  recovery.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > sincerely,
>> >> >> >> > > Anmol
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > I seldom think about
>> my
>> >> limitations, and they never
>> >> >> >> > make me sad. Perhaps
>> >> >> >> > > there is just a touch
>> of
>> >> yearning at times; but it is
>> >> >> >> > vague, like a breeze
>> >> >> >> > > among flowers.
>> >> >> >> > > Hellen Keller
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > --- On Mon, 8/2/10,
>> James H.
>> >> "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR
>> >> >> >> > <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>> >> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> From: James H.
>> "Jim"
>> >> Canaday M.A. N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> Subject:
>> >> [Blind-international-students]
>> >> >> >> > introducing myself and
>> comments on
>> >> >> >> > >> your discussion
>> >> >> >> > >> To: "Blind
>> International
>> >> Students Mailing List"
>> >> >> >> > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> >> > >> Date: Monday,
>> August 2,
>> >> 2010, 7:53 PM
>> >> >> >> > >> Hello members of
>> the Blind
>> >> >> >> > >> Internationals nfb
>> list;
>> >> >> >> > >> I am Jim
>> Canaday.  I
>> >> am the president of the
>> >> >> >> > Jayhawk
>> >> >> >> > >> chapter of the NFB
>> of
>> >> kansas, here in Lawrence
>> >> >> >> > (where Kansas
>> >> >> >> > >> University is
>> >> located).  I am also active with
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > >> writers division
>> of NFB.
>> >> >> >> > >> I'll give more of
>> an
>> >> introduction later down this
>> >> >> >> > e-mail.
>> >> >> >> > >> > I have been
>> delighted
>> >> that nfb  supported
>> >> >> >> > this effort
>> >> >> >> > >> by providing the
>> list for
>> >> internationals.  I
>> >> >> >> > care
>> >> >> >> > >> deeply about
>> blind
>> >> international students who are
>> >> >> >> > here in
>> >> >> >> > >> the U.S.  I am
>> also
>> >> quite concerned about
>> >> >> >> > conditions
>> >> >> >> > >> for most blind
>> people in
>> >> the world.  I know very
>> >> >> >> > well
>> >> >> >> > >> in my heart that
>> blind
>> >> people have it much better
>> >> >> >> > here than
>> >> >> >> > >> in most of the
>> world and
>> >> that means that we have a
>> >> >> >> > serious
>> >> >> >> > >> responsibility.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> Robert Leslie
>> Newman,
>> >> president of the writers
>> >> >> >> > division and
>> >> >> >> > >> active member of
>> Blind
>> >> Corps is currently in the
>> >> >> >> > hospital,
>> >> >> >> > >> he lives in
>> nebraska.
>> >> he cares deeply and works
>> >> >> >> > >> diligently to
>> bring the nfb
>> >> philosophy of
>> >> >> >> > orientation and
>> >> >> >> > >> mobility to other
>> countries
>> >> through blind corps;
>> >> >> >> > they
>> >> >> >> > >> go teach the
>> teachers
>> >> primarily.  that  way
>> >> >> >> > other
>> >> >> >> > >> countries can
>> train their
>> >> own blind people.
>> >> >> >> > >> also from nebraska
>> is Fetos
>> >> Floyd who grew to
>> >> >> >> > adulthood in
>> >> >> >> > >> Turkey.  she is
>> I
>> >> believe the head of the
>> >> >> >> > nebraska
>> >> >> >> > >> center for the
>> blind where
>> >> training takes place
>> >> >> >> > and she
>> >> >> >> > >> participates in
>> blind corps
>> >> too.
>> >> >> >> > >> robert and fetos
>> and
>> >> several others recently
>> >> >> >> > returned from
>> >> >> >> > >> their second trip
>> to
>> >> turkey.  it seems that the
>> >> >> >> > program
>> >> >> >> > >> in turkey is doing
>> very
>> >> well.  I believe that all
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> > >> the members of
>> Blind Corps
>> >> are members of NFB.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> I have
>> communicated with
>> >> officers of NABS about
>> >> >> >> > this group
>> >> >> >> > >> recently, and
>> several
>> >> months ago.  there is an
>> >> >> >> > >> international grad
>> student
>> >> here in my chapter and
>> >> >> >> > I have
>> >> >> >> > >> told her of this
>> >> list.  I cannot tell you why she
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > >> hesitant to join.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> it's really great
>> to see
>> >> the activity on this list
>> >> >> >> > increase
>> >> >> >> > >> so
>> >> much!   blind people often experience
>> >> >> >> > >> isolation.  I
>> think
>> >> that may often be worse for
>> >> >> >> > blind
>> >> >> >> > >> international
>> students who
>> >> come here to study.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> if I can give a
>> little
>> >> advice,
>> >> >> >> > >> I believe that
>> >> international students and
>> >> >> >> > internationals in
>> >> >> >> > >> the U.S. should
>> actually
>> >> have their own division
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > >> NFB.  you are at
>> the
>> >> beginning of this process.
>> >> >> >> > >> or you are at the
>> beginning
>> >> of becoming a special
>> >> >> >> > interest
>> >> >> >> > >> group.  as a
>> division
>> >> you will get more attention
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > >> have more impact
>> on
>> >> others.  it takes time to
>> >> >> >> > build a
>> >> >> >> > >> group, organize
>> and form a
>> >> division.  and your
>> >> >> >> > >> experience is
>> actually
>> >> typical.  yes some people
>> >> >> >> > may be
>> >> >> >> > >> put off by your
>> being
>> >> internationals, but most
>> >> >> >> > will
>> >> >> >> > >> not.  some
>> >> people  will be put off by the fact
>> >> >> >> > >> that I am from
>> kansas,
>> >> too.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> Divisions start
>> from the
>> >> ground up most often.
>> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> > >> have taken steps
>> >> already like other groups did:
>> >> >> >> > >> forming
>> communication
>> >> within yourselves; defining
>> >> >> >> > your
>> >> >> >> > >> identity and your
>> >> interests; and forming goals.
>> >> >> >> > I hope
>> >> >> >> > >> you might find in
>> your
>> >> hearts some patience with
>> >> >> >> > the rest of
>> >> >> >> > >> us in the
>> federation, as we
>> >> are all human too.
>> >> >> >> > some of
>> >> >> >> > >> us will
>> enthusiastically
>> >> work with internationals,
>> >> >> >> > many will
>> >> >> >> > >> be shy or busy
>> with other
>> >> interests, and a few
>> >> >> >> > will be truly
>> >> >> >> > >> hostile.  please
>> don't
>> >> let the few bad people put
>> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> > >> off.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> more advice.
>> >> >> >> > >> maybe you all have
>> done
>> >> this but I have not seen
>> >> >> >> > it.
>> >> >> >> > >> you are now in the
>> stage of
>> >> getting interested
>> >> >> >> > people
>> >> >> >> > >> together for your
>> >> organization.  a very simple
>> >> >> >> > thing
>> >> >> >> > >> you can do in this
>> is to
>> >> write a direct one page
>> >> >> >> > >> statement.  your
>> >> organization's statement should
>> >> >> >> > give
>> >> >> >> > >> your tentative
>> name, your
>> >> e-mail list info for
>> >> >> >> > subscribing,
>> >> >> >> > >> who you are, what
>> your
>> >> interests are, and who you
>> >> >> >> > are
>> >> >> >> > >> looking for as
>> new
>> >> members.  and any other
>> >> >> >> > contact
>> >> >> >> > >> information that
>> would be
>> >> useful.  your statement
>> >> >> >> > then
>> >> >> >> > >> can be easily
>> posted to
>> >> groups, and people can
>> >> >> >> > forward it
>> >> >> >> > >> along.  you will
>> have
>> >> a single  presentation
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > >> you all have
>> agreed on that
>> >> represents you.
>> >> >> >> > your
>> >> >> >> > >> statement also can
>> go into
>> >> the Braille Monitor.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> to get this
>> statement
>> >> together, you need to first
>> >> >> >> > decide
>> >> >> >> > >> what your goals
>> and
>> >> interests are.  think of who
>> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> > >> are looking for
>> as
>> >> potential members.  and, you
>> >> >> >> > can
>> >> >> >> > >> consider how to
>> put your
>> >> group's presentation
>> >> >> >> > together from
>> >> >> >> > >> those decisions.
>> I
>> >> would not presume to suggest
>> >> >> >> > to you
>> >> >> >> > >> what these should
>> be.
>> >> but if you have a unified
>> >> >> >> > >> message, and one
>> that is
>> >> very easily distributed,
>> >> >> >> > it is very
>> >> >> >> > >> powerful.  there
>> are
>> >> people you want in your
>> >> >> >> > group who
>> >> >> >> > >> may have to hear
>> about it
>> >> two or more times before
>> >> >> >> > they
>> >> >> >> > >> reach out to you.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> I believe strongly
>> in NFB,
>> >> and I also know that
>> >> >> >> > >> internationals
>> are
>> >> wonderful people who also teach
>> >> >> >> > the rest
>> >> >> >> > >> of us much.  so I
>> very
>> >> strongly hope that you
>> >> >> >> > will work
>> >> >> >> > >> within NFB.  NFB
>> has
>> >> great resources you will
>> >> >> >> > find
>> >> >> >> > >> helpful.  it also
>> has
>> >> a wonderful network of
>> >> >> >> > >> people.  NFB will
>> be
>> >> much better with you in it.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> though you do not
>> have a
>> >> formal organization now,
>> >> >> >> > it would
>> >> >> >> > >> be worth
>> investigating
>> >> forming one.  that way you
>> >> >> >> > can
>> >> >> >> > >> designate officers
>> and have
>> >> a bank account.
>> >> >> >> > also,
>> >> >> >> > >> others will see
>> you are
>> >> serious by taking these
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> steps.   again, many other divisions and
>> >> >> >> > >> special interest
>> groups
>> >> have done the same
>> >> >> >> > thing.  and
>> >> >> >> > >> most started with
>> very
>> >> little if any push or
>> >> >> >> > support from
>> >> >> >> > >> NFB national
>> >> leadership.  there are at least two
>> >> >> >> > other
>> >> >> >> > >> nfb groups I
>> could
>> >> participate with, but I do not
>> >> >> >> > have the
>> >> >> >> > >> time or energy to
>> join in
>> >> with them.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> if you look at the
>> writers
>> >> division website
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> www.nfb-writers-division.org
>> >> >> >> > >> you will see that
>> we have a
>> >> very good website.
>> >> >> >> > this
>> >> >> >> > >> is also provided
>> by the
>> >> national organization.
>> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> > >> they did not
>> provide such
>> >> things for the writers
>> >> >> >> > division
>> >> >> >> > >> until it was
>> organized and
>> >> functioning.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> enough advice?
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> *I am here because
>> of
>> >> Hina.  five years and a
>> >> >> >> > month
>> >> >> >> > >> ago, I wrote to
>> her in
>> >> Pakistan, and I was
>> >> >> >> > incredibly
>> >> >> >> > >> fortunate to be
>> her pen
>> >> pal.  she is a dear
>> >> >> >> > friend of
>> >> >> >> > >> mine.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> the M.A. after my
>> name is
>> >> in clinical psychology,
>> >> >> >> > and I
>> >> >> >> > >> completed the
>> practicum as
>> >> a student
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> therapist.   I earned the degree at kansas
>> >> >> >> > >> university in
>> 1991, with no
>> >> help from kansas
>> >> >> >> > >> university.  K.U.
>> has
>> >> a sad long history of not
>> >> >> >> > >> properly providing
>> services
>> >> for blind students.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> I grew up in rural
>> central
>> >> california so I am
>> >> >> >> > curious about
>> >> >> >> > >> where Miso
>> lives.  I
>> >> was completely blind from
>> >> >> >> > age 13,
>> >> >> >> > >> and partial
>> before
>> >> that.  my bachelor's degree is
>> >> >> >> > from
>> >> >> >> > >> the university of
>> >> california at davis.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> I am married and
>> have no
>> >> children.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> I hope I can help
>> this
>> >> group to grow and
>> >> >> >> > flourish.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> jc
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> At 04:48 PM
>> 8/2/2010, you
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > Hello,
>> >> >> >> > >> > Jan if you
>> will recall
>> >> one of the co-founders
>> >> >> >> > of Blind
>> >> >> >> > >> Core was from
>> Turkey and is
>> >> I believe the director
>> >> >> >> > of VR in
>> >> >> >> > >> Nebraska. However,
>> do not
>> >> quote me on this. I do
>> >> >> >> > not agree
>> >> >> >> > >> about bringing
>> NFB
>> >> philosophy to my country but a
>> >> >> >> > philosophy
>> >> >> >> > >> which promotes
>> possitive
>> >> attitude about blindness
>> >> >> >> > and a can
>> >> >> >> > >> do attitude. Just
>> my two
>> >> sense .
>> >> >> >> > >> > Anmol
>> >> >> >> > >> > I seldom
>> think about
>> >> my limitations, and they
>> >> >> >> > never
>> >> >> >> > >> make me sad.
>> Perhaps there
>> >> is just a touch of
>> >> >> >> > yearning at
>> >> >> >> > >> times; but it is
>> vague,
>> >> like a breeze among
>> >> >> >> > flowers.
>> >> >> >> > >> > Hellen
>> Keller
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > --- On Mon,
>> 8/2/10,
>> >> Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>> >> >> >> > >> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>> >> >> >> > >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > From:
>> Reyazuddin,
>> >> Yasmin
>> >> >> >> > >> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Subject:
>> Re:
>> >> >> >> >
>> [Blind-international-students]
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> [Blind-international-students introduction
>> >> >> >> > >> > > To:
>> "Blind
>> >> International Students
>> >> >> >> > Mailing List"
>> >> >> >> > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Date:
>> Monday,
>> >> August 2, 2010, 3:42 PM
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Hi Hena
>> and all
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Once
>> again, we
>> >> need to communicate with
>> >> >> >> > Ron Brown
>> >> >> >> > >> and see
>> >> >> >> > >> > > if he
>> will
>> >> support us. Also if some of
>> >> >> >> > you will
>> >> >> >> > >> remember
>> >> >> >> > >> > > there
>> was a group
>> >> of blind
>> >> >> >> > federationists who
>> >> >> >> > >> went to Turkey
>> >> >> >> > >> > > to teach
>> the
>> >> blind professionals there.
>> >> >> >> > May be we
>> >> >> >> > >> need to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > talk
>> with Robert
>> >> Leslie Newman from
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>> Behalf Of hina
>> >> altaf
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Sent:
>> Monday,
>> >> August 02, 2010 4:18 PM
>> >> >> >> > >> > > To:
>> Blind
>> >> International Students Mailing
>> >> >> >> > List
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Subject:
>> Re:
>> >> >> >> >
>> [Blind-international-students]
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > hi jan,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >  yes
>> that is
>> >> why i started this list
>> >> >> >> > and had
>> >> >> >> > >> philip help me
>> >> >> >> > >> > > as co
>> >> >> >> > >> > > founder.
>> buna is
>> >> on the list but she
>> >> >> >> > never said
>> >> >> >> > >> anything.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > she is
>> a
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> wonderful person
>> >> but i think if she
>> >> >> >> > wanted to do
>> >> >> >> > >> anything
>> >> >> >> > >> > > for
>> this
>> >> >> >> > >> > > list or
>> >> international students, she
>> >> >> >> > would have
>> >> >> >> > >> said
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> something by now
>> >> >> >> > >> > > or
>> before. but i
>> >> am not sure how to
>> >> >> >> > respond to
>> >> >> >> > >> this since
>> >> >> >> > >> > > she
>> never
>> >> >> >> > >> > > spoke
>> much in the
>> >> list and i know she
>> >> >> >> > was in the
>> >> >> >> > >> list since
>> >> >> >> > >> > > she did
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> communicate with
>> >> me long time ago.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > so that
>> is my
>> >> question, does nfb
>> >> >> >> > officials want
>> >> >> >> > >> to get
>> >> >> >> > >> > > involve
>> with
>> >> >> >> > >> > > helping
>> >> internationals and people in
>> >> >> >> > under
>> >> >> >> > >> developed
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> countries? that
>> >> >> >> > >> > > is
>> something i
>> >> can not answer and most
>> >> >> >> > nfb
>> >> >> >> > >> officials are
>> >> >> >> > >> > > quiet on
>> this
>> >> >> >> > >> > > list and
>> some
>> >> don't even respond.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > hina.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>> 8/2/10,
>> >> Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>> >> >> >> > >> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > Hi
>> Jan,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Good
>> >> observation.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Most of the
>> >> time the international
>> >> >> >> > people
>> >> >> >> > >> are the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> underserved as
>> >> they are
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > (we
>> are) not
>> >> included in or
>> >> >> >> > promoted other
>> >> >> >> > >> than being
>> >> >> >> > >> > > a
>> member.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > If
>> we move
>> >> forward and become
>> >> >> >> > leaders other
>> >> >> >> > >> (majority)
>> >> >> >> > >> > > do not
>> like it.
>> >> I
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> know it from
>> >> my personal
>> >> >> >> > experience.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > I
>> have to
>> >> thank the scholarship
>> >> >> >> > committee
>> >> >> >> > >> this year as
>> >> >> >> > >> > > there
>> were many
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> international students who won the
>> >> >> >> > >> scholarships. If
>> we
>> >> >> >> > >> > > could
>> have the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> students
>> >> participate and become
>> >> >> >> > leaders in
>> >> >> >> > >> their own
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> communities we
>> >> will not
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > be
>> >> underserved or impoverished.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Yasmin
>> >> Reyazuddin
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Aging &
>> >> Disability services
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Montgomery
>> >> County Government
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Department
>> >> of Health & human
>> >> >> >> > Services
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> 401
>> >> Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Rockville MD
>> >> 20850
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> 240-777-0311
>> >> (MC311)
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> 240-777-1556
>> >> (personal)
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> 240-777-1495
>> >> (fax)
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> office hours
>> >> 8:30 am 5:00 pm
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Languages
>> >> English, Hindi, Urdu,
>> >> >> >> > Braille
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
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>> >> may contain protected
>> >> >> >> > health
>> >> >> >> > >> information
>> >> >> >> > >> > > or
>> other
>> >> information
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> that is
>> >> confidential or privileged.
>> >> >> >> > If you
>> >> >> >> > >> are not the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> intended
>> >> recipient,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> please
>> >> contact the sender by return
>> >> >> >> > mail and
>> >> >> >> > >> destroy
>> >> >> >> > >> > > any
>> copies of
>> >> this
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
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>> >> -----Original Message-----
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>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>> Behalf Of jan
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> wright
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Sent:
>> >> Monday, August 02, 2010 3:52
>> >> >> >> > PM
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > To:
>> Blind
>> >> International Students
>> >> >> >> > Mailing
>> >> >> >> > >> List
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Subject:
>> >> Re:
>> >> >> >> >
>> [Blind-international-students]
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > Hi
>> Yasmin,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> That is an
>> >> interesting thought.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > I
>> know Ron
>> >> and I am sure that he
>> >> >> >> > would be
>> >> >> >> > >> open to the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > idea.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > My
>> only
>> >> question is:
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Since
>> >> "underserved,"   has a
>> >> >> >> > >> broader
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> application than
>> >> "international
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> students,"
>> >> do you think that the
>> >> >> >> > >> international
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> community will be
>> >> ....
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> .... last to
>> >> receive support?
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Just a
>> >> question.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Honestly, I
>> >> am not certain, but it
>> >> >> >> > doesn't
>> >> >> >> > >> seem that
>> >> >> >> > >> > > this
>> group is
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> getting much
>> >> notice in the NFB, as
>> >> >> >> > it is.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Anmol had
>> >> some great ideas!
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > We
>> should
>> >> not let them pass as
>> >> >> >> > ideas only.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> Jan
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > > On
>> 8/2/10,
>> >> hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> what is
>> >> the goal of that group
>> >> >> >> > yasmin?
>> >> >> >> > >> we can do
>> >> >> >> > >> > > it but i
>> would
>> >> like
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> to know
>> >> more about that group
>> >> >> >> > first. and
>> >> >> >> > >> then you
>> >> >> >> > >> > > can send
>> the
>> >> email.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> how is
>> >> it going to help us in
>> >> >> >> > starting a
>> >> >> >> > >> project
>> >> >> >> > >> > > to help
>> people
>> >> in
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> under
>> >> developed countries?
>> >> >> >> > thanks.
>> >> >> >> > >> hina.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> On
>> >> 8/2/10, Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> Hi
>> >> Hena, and all:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> I
>> >> will suggest that we
>> >> >> >> > consider
>> >> >> >> > >> combining two
>> >> >> >> > >> > > groups
>> into one
>> >> and getting
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> what
>> >> we need. The cultural
>> >> >> >> > exchange
>> >> >> >> > >> group
>> >> >> >> > >> > > should
>> join
>> >> forces with the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> committee to empower
>> >> >> >> > underserved
>> >> >> >> > >> population.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> The
>> >> goals are similar and
>> >> >> >> > then we
>> >> >> >> > >> will also
>> >> >> >> > >> > > have the
>> support
>> >> of the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> national
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> office. I can start the
>> >> >> >> > process by
>> >> >> >> > >> sending an
>> >> >> >> > >> > > email to
>> Ron
>> >> Brown who is
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> president of Indiana.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> We
>> >> have a meeting every
>> >> >> >> > year and can
>> >> >> >> > >> do more
>> >> >> >> > >> > > that
>> way.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Yasmin Reyazuddin
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Aging & Disability
>> >> >> >> > services
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Montgomery County
>> >> >> >> > Government
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Department of Health &
>> >> >> >> > human
>> >> >> >> > >> Services
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> 401
>> >> Hungerford Drive (3rd
>> >> >> >> > floor)
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Rockville MD 20850
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> 240-777-0311 (MC311)
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> 240-777-1556 (personal)
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> 240-777-1495 (fax)
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> office hours 8:30 am 5:00
>> >> >> >> > pm
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Languages English, Hindi,
>> >> >> >> > Urdu,
>> >> >> >> > >> Braille
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> This
>> >> message may contain
>> >> >> >> > protected
>> >> >> >> > >> health
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> information or
>> >> other
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> information
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> that
>> >> is confidential or
>> >> >> >> > privileged.
>> >> >> >> > >> If you are
>> >> >> >> > >> > > not the
>> intended
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> recipient,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> please contact the sender
>> >> >> >> > by return
>> >> >> >> > >> mail and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > destroy
>> any
>> >> copies of this
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> material.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Thank you.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>> Behalf Of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> hina
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> altaf
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Sent: Monday, August 02,
>> >> >> >> > 2010 1:38
>> >> >> >> > >> PM
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> To:
>> >> Blind International
>> >> >> >> > Students
>> >> >> >> > >> Mailing List
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >>
>> [Blind-international-students][Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> hi
>> >> anmol,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>  i agree with you and
>> >> >> >> > that's
>> >> >> >> > >> what we
>> >> >> >> > >> > > tried
>> last year
>> >> without much
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> success. i think on this
>> >> >> >> > issue i
>> >> >> >> > >> need to talk
>> >> >> >> > >> > > to you
>> either on
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> phone or online. there are
>> >> >> >> > a lot of
>> >> >> >> > >> issues and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > things
>> that i
>> >> don't
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> feel
>> >> comfortable discussing
>> >> >> >> > on nfb
>> >> >> >> > >> mailing
>> >> >> >> > >> > > list due
>> to some
>> >> reasons
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> which i think we can talk
>> >> >> >> > off list.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> hina.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>> On
>> >> 8/2/10, Anmol Bhatia
>> >> >> >> > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Hello Jan and Hina,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Due to reasons which I
>> >> >> >> > do not
>> >> >> >> > >> want to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > mention
>> on the
>> >> list I do not think
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> our
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> list would get much
>> >> >> >> > >> advertisement from
>> the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > NFB
>> officials. So
>> >> this means
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> that
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> more then likely we
>> >> >> >> > will have to
>> >> >> >> > >> self
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> advertise.
>> >> Personally I have been
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> advertising through
>> >> >> >> > word of
>> >> >> >> > >> mouth telling
>> >> >> >> > >> > > my
>> friends or
>> >> anyone who may
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> be
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> interested in joining
>> >> >> >> > or is
>> >> >> >> > >> interested in
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> international
>> >> issues. Also
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> maybe
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> someone can write a
>> >> >> >> > article for
>> >> >> >> > >> Mobility
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> International USA
>> >> (MIUSA)
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> www.miusa.org
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> and it would be
>> >> >> >> > published on
>> >> >> >> > >> their
>> >> >> >> > >> > > webcite.
>> It is a
>> >> non-profit
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> organization
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> which works on
>> >> >> >> > international
>> >> >> >> > >> development
>> >> >> >> > >> > > for
>> people with
>> >> disabilities in
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> other countries and
>> >> >> >> > also
>> >> >> >> > >> promotes
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> international
>> >> travel for individuals
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> with
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> disabilities. Some
>> >> >> >> > things they
>> >> >> >> > >> do is to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > promote
>> study
>> >> abroad
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> opportunities
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> for students with
>> >> >> >> > disabilities
>> >> >> >> > >> and
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> leadership
>> >> trainings for individuals
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> with
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> disabilities. I would
>> >> >> >> > encourage
>> >> >> >> > >> you to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > visit
>> their
>> >> webcite and maybe
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> sign
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> up
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> for their news letter.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Also we may want to
>> >> >> >> > consider
>> >> >> >> > >> sending a
>> >> >> >> > >> > > blerb to
>> various
>> >> list serves that
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> we
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> are on to let people
>> >> >> >> > know that
>> >> >> >> > >> there is a
>> >> >> >> > >> > > list
>> serve for
>> >> international
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> students and for anyone
>> >> >> >> > who
>> >> >> >> > >> wants to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> communicate with
>> >> international
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> students
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> or is interested in
>> >> >> >> > learning
>> >> >> >> > >> about study
>> >> >> >> > >> > > abroad
>> or
>> >> volunteer
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> opportunities
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> abroad. Also someone
>> >> >> >> > could write
>> >> >> >> > >> a article
>> >> >> >> > >> > > for the
>> Student
>> >> Slate (a news
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> letter sponsored by the
>> >> >> >> > NABS "a
>> >> >> >> > >> student
>> >> >> >> > >> > > chapter
>> of the
>> >> NFB") September
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> issue. I would
>> >> >> >> > volunteer to do
>> >> >> >> > >> this but I
>> >> >> >> > >> > > am
>> already
>> >> writing couple of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> articles so it may be a
>> >> >> >> > bit to
>> >> >> >> > >> much.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> The list is on the NFB
>> >> >> >> > >> discussion list.
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Infact
>> >> thats how I learned
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> about
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> it, but most people do
>> >> >> >> > not think
>> >> >> >> > >> about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > going to
>> the
>> >> discussion list page
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> therefore are not aware
>> >> >> >> > of it.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Also I think having
>> >> >> >> > regular
>> >> >> >> > >> conference
>> >> >> >> > >> > > calls
>> and some
>> >> fun activities
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> will
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> help generate interest
>> >> >> >> > in the
>> >> >> >> > >> group.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Just some thoughts.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Anmol
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> I seldom think about
>> >> >> >> > my
>> >> >> >> > >> limitations, and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > they
>> never make
>> >> me sad. Perhaps
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> there is just a touch
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> > >> yearning at
>> >> >> >> > >> > > times;
>> but it is
>> >> vague, like a
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> breeze
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> among flowers.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> Hellen Keller
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> --- On Mon, 8/2/10,
>> >> >> >> > hina altaf
>> >> >> >> > >> <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> From: hina altaf
>> >> >> >> > <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Subject: Re:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> [Blind-international-students]
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> To: "Blind
>> >> >> >> > International
>> >> >> >> > >> Students
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Mailing
>> List"
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Date: Monday,
>> >> >> >> > August 2,
>> >> >> >> > >> 2010, 12:03
>> >> >> >> > >> > > PM
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> i contacted Diane
>> >> >> >> > >> McGeorge  last
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> year as well about
>> >> >> >> > our group
>> >> >> >> > >> but
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> never got any
>> >> >> >> > reply. well
>> >> >> >> > >> where do you
>> >> >> >> > >> > > want to
>> >> advertise
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> the group?
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> last year i and
>> >> >> >> > philip got
>> >> >> >> > >> an offer to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > do a
>> radio show
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> about our group
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> but we did not do
>> >> >> >> > due to
>> >> >> >> > >> some reason
>> >> >> >> > >> > > that we
>> discussed
>> >> off
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> list. but
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> that is something
>> >> >> >> > we could
>> >> >> >> > >> still
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> consider. hina.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> On 8/2/10, jan
>> >> >> >> > wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Hi Anmol,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Tell us about
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > >> conference in
>> >> >> >> > >> > > DC.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > That sounds
>> >> >> >> > >> interesting.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Yes, I forgot
>> >> >> >> > about the
>> >> >> >> > >> world
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Blind
>> Union.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > I went to
>> >> >> >> > their site in
>> >> >> >> > >> hopes to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > join:
>> but I am
>> >> not
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> part of an
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > organization
>> >> >> >> > and I
>> >> >> >> > >> think that you
>> >> >> >> > >> > > have to
>> have lots
>> >> of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> money to join.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Or, you have
>> >> >> >> > to be part
>> >> >> >> > >> of a
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> blindness
>> >> organization.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Well, Anmol, I
>> >> >> >> > forgot
>> >> >> >> > >> about the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > blind
>> corps
>> >> also.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > I found this
>> >> >> >> > quite
>> >> >> >> > >> interesting.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > I'd like to
>> >> >> >> > know more
>> >> >> >> > >> about it
>> >> >> >> > >> > > and if
>> we could
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> contribute in some
>> >> >> >> > type of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > way.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Yes, I would
>> >> >> >> > be willing
>> >> >> >> > >> to hear
>> >> >> >> > >> > > this
>> woman speak
>> >> on a
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> conference call.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > I have a
>> >> >> >> > meeting on
>> >> >> >> > >> Tuesday, but
>> >> >> >> > >> > > the
>> other days
>> >> are
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> free for me.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > I have emailed
>> >> >> >> > Diane
>> >> >> >> > >> McGeorge
>> >> >> >> > >> > > about
>> this group
>> >> and she
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> has not gotten
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > back with me.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > So, I guess we
>> >> >> >> > will
>> >> >> >> > >> have to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> advertise
>> >> ourselves.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > If we can get
>> >> >> >> > a good
>> >> >> >> > >> description
>> >> >> >> > >> > > about
>> our group
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> together,  then
>> >> >> >> > we
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > can send it to
>> >> >> >> > our
>> >> >> >> > >> divisions and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > state
>> presidents
>> >> for
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> them to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > distribute.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > Hey, Hina, you
>> >> >> >> > are
>> >> >> >> > >> moderator of
>> >> >> >> > >> > > the
>> group:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > What do you
>> >> >> >> > think?
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > I don't know,
>> >> >> >> > any
>> >> >> >> > >> thoughts?
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> > On 8/2/10,
>> >> >> >> > Imran Ahmed
>> >> >> >> > >> <imran.altaf at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >> What
>> >> >> >> > platform are
>> >> >> >> > >> you using
>> >> >> >> > >> > > to host
>> the
>> >> conference
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> calls? Please
>> >> >> >> > share
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > necessary
>> >> >> >> > >> details so that
>> >> >> >> > >> > > all who
>> are
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> interested, can
>> >> >> >> > participate
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >> in the
>> >> >> >> > conference
>> >> >> >> > >> call.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >> Imran.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >> On 8/2/10,
>> >> >> >> > hina
>> >> >> >> > >> altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> hi
>> >> >> >> > anmol,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>  yes
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > >> is great idea
>> >> >> >> > >> > > to
>> involve more
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> people an d
>> >> >> >> > organizations
>> >> >> >> > >> who
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> might
>> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> > >> interested to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > help
>> people from
>> >> under
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> developed
>> >> >> >> > countries.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> buna
>> >> >> >> > is also on
>> >> >> >> > >> the list,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > i met
>> her last
>> >> year
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> and she is a very
>> >> >> >> > nice
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> lady
>> >> >> >> > who is
>> >> >> >> > >> very
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> successfull in
>> >> overcoming
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> challenges that she
>> >> >> >> > had
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> being
>> >> >> >> > someone
>> >> >> >> > >> from under
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> developed
>> >> countries.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> how did your
>> >> >> >> > conference
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> go? i
>> >> >> >> > wish i
>> >> >> >> > >> could have
>> >> >> >> > >> > > been
>> able to make
>> >> it
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> but due to some
>> >> >> >> > issues i
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> was
>> >> >> >> > not able to
>> >> >> >> > >> attend
>> >> >> >> > >> > > although
>> i
>> >> qualified.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> also i think we
>> >> >> >> > should
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> focuss
>> >> >> >> > on
>> >> >> >> > >> starting one
>> >> >> >> > >> > > project
>> at a time
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> discuss first what
>> >> >> >> > we
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> want
>> >> >> >> > to do. but
>> >> >> >> > >> i will be
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> interested in
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> conference call and
>> >> >> >> > if we
>> >> >> >> > >> can
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> get
>> >> >> >> > some ideas
>> >> >> >> > >> from the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > members
>> as well
>> >> as
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> from some people
>> >> >> >> > who are
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > already serving
>> >> >> >> > >> under
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> developed
>> >> countries in
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> some ways. thanks.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> hina
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>> On
>> >> >> >> > 8/1/10,
>> >> >> >> > >> Anmol Bhatia
>> >> >> >> > >> > > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Hello Jan
>> >> >> >> > >> and all,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Sorry it
>> >> >> >> > >> has taken me
>> >> >> >> > >> > > a while
>> to
>> >> respond.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> I was in Washington
>> >> >> >> > D.C.
>> >> >> >> > >> last
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > week
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > for the
>> >> >> >> > >> National
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Council
>> on
>> >> Disability
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Summit and got kind
>> >> >> >> > of busy
>> >> >> >> > >> since
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > returning.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Jan you did
>> >> >> >> > >> pretty
>> >> >> >> > >> > > good
>> job
>> >> summarizing
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> what happened at
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > >> meeting,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > you for got
>> >> >> >> > >> about the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > World
>> Blind
>> >> Union.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Dr. Shroder (NFB's
>> >> >> >> > first
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> vice-president)
>> who
>> >> >> >> > >> > > is
>> active in the
>> >> World
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Blind Union told us
>> >> >> >> > about
>> >> >> >> > >> the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > World Blind
>> >> >> >> > >> Union and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > what it
>> does.
>> >> Also
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Buna Dahal told us
>> >> >> >> > about
>> >> >> >> > >> her
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > experience
>> >> >> >> > >> about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > growing
>> in Nepal
>> >> as the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> only person in her
>> >> >> >> > family
>> >> >> >> > >> who
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > blind and
>> >> >> >> > >> some of the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> challenges she
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> faced. She also
>> >> >> >> > told us
>> >> >> >> > >> about the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Blind
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Core (like
>> >> >> >> > >> the Peace
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Core)
>> except a
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> organization which
>> >> >> >> > serves
>> >> >> >> > >> blind
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > people.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Perhaps
>> >> >> >> > >> this can be
>> >> >> >> > >> > > one of
>> our
>> >> adopted
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> project that we as
>> >> >> >> > a group
>> >> >> >> > >> of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > interested
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> Federationest who
>> >> are
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> interested in help
>> >> >> >> > blind
>> >> >> >> > >> kids in less
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > developed
>> >> >> >> > >> countries
>> >> >> >> > >> > > can work
>> with.
>> >> Also
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> last week I met a
>> >> >> >> > lady who
>> >> >> >> > >> is
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > doing
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > some work
>> >> >> >> > >> in
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Ecuador
>> to train
>> >> and assist
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> the disabled
>> >> >> >> > population
>> >> >> >> > >> there.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>> I
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > am
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > thinking
>> >> >> >> > >> about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > holding
>> a
>> >> conference call
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> next weekend so
>> >> >> >> > that the
>> >> >> >> > >> lady
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > who
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>> I
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > met can
>> >> >> >> > >> tell us about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > her work
>> and
>> >> what
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> she does. If I held
>> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> > >> conference
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > call would
>> >> >> >> > >> you
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> attend?
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Also Jan I
>> >> >> >> > >> actually
>> >> >> >> > >> > > thought
>> about
>> >> this
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> mailing list at the
>> >> >> >> > meeting,
>> >> >> >> > >> but
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>> be
>> >> >> >> > quit
>> >> >> >> > >> frank I felt
>> >> >> >> > >> > > that I
>> was
>> >> hogging
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> the discussione so
>> >> >> >> > decided
>> >> >> >> > >> to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > keep
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>> my
>> >> >> >> > mouth
>> >> >> >> > >> shut. But I
>> >> >> >> > >> > > wish I
>> would
>> >> have
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> said something or
>> >> >> >> > atleast
>> >> >> >> > >> got
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > everyone's
>> >> >> >> > >> email
>> >> >> >> > >> > > address
>> so that
>> >> we could
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> have formed some
>> >> >> >> > sort of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> communication.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Anmol
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>> I
>> >> >> >> > seldom
>> >> >> >> > >> think about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > my
>> limitations,
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> they never make me
>> >> >> >> > sad.
>> >> >> >> > >> Perhaps
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > there is
>> >> >> >> > >> just a touch
>> >> >> >> > >> > > of
>> yearning at
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> times; but it is
>> >> >> >> > vague, like
>> >> >> >> > >> a
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > breeze
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > among
>> >> >> >> > >> flowers.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > Hellen
>> >> >> >> > >> Keller
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > --- On Sat,
>> >> >> >> > >> 7/24/10,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > jan
>> wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> From:
>> >> >> >> > >> jan wright
>> >> >> >> > >> > > <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> Subject: Re:
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> [Blind-international-students]
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> To:
>> >> >> >> > >> "Blind
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> International
>> >> Students
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> Mailing List"
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> Date:
>> >> >> >> > >> Saturday,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > July 24,
>> 2010,
>> >> 6:43
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> PM
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> Hi
>> >> >> >> > >> All,
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> I
>> will
>> >> >> >> > >> give a
>> >> >> >> > >> > > summary
>> of what
>> >> went on
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> during the meeting
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> (as
>> it
>> >> >> >> > >> refers
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> to
>> this
>> >> >> >> > >> list or
>> >> >> >> > >> > > things
>> that we
>> >> can do
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> on our own).
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> Please,
>> >> >> >> > >> Anmol,
>> >> >> >> > >> > > chime in
>> if I
>> >> either
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> forget something
>> >> >> >> > or
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> present
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> something
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> incorrectly.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> We
>> >> >> >> > >> discussed
>> >> >> >> > >> > > making
>> books
>> >> more
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> accessible for
>> >> >> >> > those who do
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> not
>> >> >> >> > >> live in the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > USA.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> We
>> all
>> >> >> >> > >> know about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > the
>> strict laws
>> >> of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> the Library of
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> Congress and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > NLS.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> There
>> >> >> >> > >> was some
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> discussion about
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> library in
>> >> >> >> > Australia
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> and
>> how
>> >> >> >> > >> they
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> were
>> >> >> >> > >> trying to
>> >> >> >> > >> > > help
>> others have
>> >> access
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> to both braille
>> >> >> >> > (at
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> least
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> technical
>> >> >> >> > >> > > braille)
>> and
>> >> audio books.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> But,
>> >> >> >> > >> there were
>> >> >> >> > >> > > no
>> suggestions as
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> how we might
>> >> >> >> > assist
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> the
>> >> >> >> > >> process.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> We
>> >> >> >> > >> talked about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > sending
>> items
>> >> abroad.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> Some
>> >> >> >> > >> people
>> >> >> >> > >> > > wanted
>> to have a
>> >> drive to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> collect equipment
>> >> >> >> > or
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> products
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> for
>> the
>> >> >> >> > >> blind and
>> >> >> >> > >> > > send
>> them to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> developing
>> >> >> >> > countries.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> There
>> >> >> >> > >> was some
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> discussion about
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> postal fees.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> Apparently these
>> >> >> >> > >> > > fees
>> have
>> >> hindered
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> people from
>> >> >> >> > sending
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> large
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >> quantities of
>> >> >> >> > >> > > products
>> to
>> >> other
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> countries.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>>> It
>> was
>> >> >> >> > >> suggested
>> >> >> >> > >> > > that if
>> we want
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>>>> try to get products
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