[Blind-international-students] introducing myself andcommentsonyour discussion

[hina altaf]

hi jan, i will set it up this evening. thanks. hina.

On 8/5/10, jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Anmol,
> are you talking about the number:
> 218-936-1200
> The "Parents of Blind Children," have used this line.
> So has many other groups.
> I know that it is not a 1800 (tole free) number.
> But, if people have skype or cell phones, it should not be a problem.
> Someone -- not me, will have to set up a passcode
> so that we all are in the same conference room.
> But, if someone knows of a better place, let us know.
> Jan
>
> On 8/5/10, hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi anmol,
>> yes i will work on that this weekend. but everyone please give me your
>> thoughts on what should we include? it seems jan is pretty good  at
>> summarizing the important points, so jan please give your thoughts on
>> the add and i will work on it. thanks everyone. hina.
>>
>> On 8/5/10, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I agree. There is a free conference call service that my friend told me
>>> about but I failed to write down the number he gave me. I will check into
>>> it
>>> and let everyone know. The chat line I don't think will be appropreate
>>> for
>>> this situation since it is more of a social chat line and may drive
>>> people
>>> away. So for situation like this we need something a little more formal.
>>> So
>>> how about we have a social get to know you conference this weekend? How
>>> many
>>> of us can attend if it is this weekend? Let me know. Also Hina do you
>>> want
>>> to write a one page add for this group to put in the Student Slate (the
>>> newletter sent out by NABS)?
>>> Anmol
>>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
>>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a
>>> breeze
>>> among flowers.
>>> Hellen Keller
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 8/5/10, hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>>>> andcommentsonyour discussion
>>>> To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 3:16 PM
>>>> anmol i think first meeting should be
>>>> just social get together on the
>>>> conference. a lot  of us only know each other through
>>>> emails and never
>>>> spoke to one another directly. i think we should first have
>>>> a social
>>>> meeting  so  everyone is  introduced
>>>> to   each other. do we have a
>>>> free number that we could use to host our conference anmol?
>>>> the chat
>>>> line you once gave me, maybe there but i don't want any
>>>> other
>>>> intruptions. it should be just our blind international
>>>> group and our
>>>> speakers. but in this first one we should just meet one
>>>> another rather
>>>> then starting it too formal. some people are still new and
>>>> need to be
>>>> comfortable with each other.
>>>> hina.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/5/10, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Hello Jan,
>>>> > Great points! I would like to do it this weekend but
>>>> maybe to much of a
>>>> > short notice.
>>>> > My thinking was to ask a person who I met during my
>>>> trip to Washington and
>>>> > see if she would do a presentation the project she is
>>>> doing on international
>>>> > development for people with  disabilities. Maybe
>>>> let her speak for about
>>>> > half-hour, take questions for about 15 minutes and
>>>> then we can move to
>>>> > discussion for 15 minutes or how ever long people want
>>>> to stay on. We could
>>>> > start with some of the points but the conference calls
>>>> will have to be on
>>>> > going. At some point maybe if anyone knows of a
>>>> immigration lawyer who would
>>>> > be willing to do some free consoltation maybe that
>>>> could be one of our guest
>>>> > speak. I would personally like this and alot of
>>>> international students could
>>>> > benefit from this. I suggest that Hina as one of the
>>>> list moderators be our
>>>> > leader for this conference calls until we can figure
>>>> out the leadership
>>>> > structure. Any thoughts?
>>>> >
>>>> > Anmol
>>>> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
>>>> make me sad. Perhaps
>>>> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
>>>> vague, like a breeze
>>>> > among flowers.
>>>> > Hellen Keller
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --- On Thu, 8/5/10, jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> From: jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
>>>> introducing myself
>>>> >> andcommentsonyour discussion
>>>> >> To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
>>>> >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 1:14 PM
>>>> >>  Hi All,
>>>> >> So, are we scheduling a conference call?
>>>> >> What shall be our agenda?
>>>> >> ... not necessarily in this order....
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 1. Hina and Anmol have mentioned the astronomical
>>>> >> expense  of an
>>>> >> international student. Is there something that we
>>>> can do
>>>> >> about it?
>>>> >> 2. Imran has mentioned the need for some type of
>>>> reach/out
>>>> >> and support
>>>> >> for international students. How can we find
>>>> international
>>>> >> students? Is
>>>> >> there a way that we can be informed when they
>>>> arrive so
>>>> >> that we can
>>>> >> offer a network of ....  "mentors" if you will?
>>>> As
>>>> >> well as finding a
>>>> >> way to give them all the information that they
>>>> might need
>>>> >> both about
>>>> >> blindness and their unique status as
>>>> international
>>>> >> students.
>>>> >>    3. How can we respond to those blind
>>>> >> people who are not in America?
>>>> >> Should we try to implement projects collectively
>>>> or
>>>> >> individually? If
>>>> >> we don't work with agencies that are already
>>>> structured,
>>>> >> then we will
>>>> >> need to find individuals as our liasons.
>>>> >> 5. Should we have a division of the NFB? (We have
>>>> enough
>>>> >> members). We
>>>> >> could write a constitution and elect officers.
>>>> Or,
>>>> >> Should we form a
>>>> >> formal organization independent of the nfb?
>>>> Discussion
>>>> >> about pros and
>>>> >> cons of affiliating with NFB or other
>>>> organization. What
>>>> >> about Anmol's
>>>> >> org MIUSA? What about American Foundation or
>>>> ......
>>>> >> others?
>>>> >> 6. Should we form a formal statement of goals,
>>>> guidelines
>>>> >> or anything else?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 8/4/10, Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> > yes, i do understand. but still we need to be
>>>> careful
>>>> >> dear friend.
>>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> > From: "Carly Mihalakis" <carlymih at earthlink.net>
>>>> >> > To: "Blind International Students Mailing
>>>> List"
>>>> >> > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 6:09 PM
>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
>>>> >> introducing myself
>>>> >> > andcommentsonyour discussion
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Hi, Heena,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >          I do not feel my
>>>> >> reference to a "son of a bitch" was used in
>>>> >> > a way that was gratuitous, but an accurate
>>>> albeit
>>>> >> colorful
>>>> >> > description of the Obama aproach approach of
>>>> ruling
>>>> >> this fair land.
>>>> >> > Examine the context please, Heena.
>>>> >> > C.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Not just a single war in Iraq but
>>>> can't you
>>>> >> hear the war drums
>>>> >> >> > beating from Afghanistan, Pakistan
>>>> and North
>>>> >> Korea all awaiting US
>>>> >> >> > invasion, for the crime of
>>>> nonconformance to
>>>> >> American values?
>>>> >> >> > It seems, Obama would rather invest
>>>> in taking
>>>> >> life away, and
>>>> >> >> > destroying perfectly viable
>>>> infrastructure
>>>> >> than to actually channel
>>>> >> >> > resources for the long term health
>>>> care
>>>> >> of People.
>>>> >> >> > He's an ever calculating son of a
>>>> bitch, and
>>>> >> nobody better start
>>>> >> >> > accusing me of being a racist or any
>>>> such
>>>> >> slander because   Obama
>>>> >> >> > keeps as far away from Black affairs
>>>> as
>>>> >> possible, even if it means
>>>> >> >> > throwing prominent Black figures
>>>> under
>>>> >> that bus.
>>>> >> >> > Car
>>>> >> >> >>The cost to the USA
>>>> infrastructure of
>>>> >> having a war in Iraq is also
>>>> >> >> >>bloody
>>>> >> >> >>prohibitive, doesn't seem to stop
>>>> our
>>>> >> leaders from doing so.
>>>> >> >> >>It's perhaps a question of
>>>> priorities.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Dan W.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>>>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> >> On Behalf Of
>>>> >> >> >>Guido
>>>> >> >> >>Corona
>>>> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
>>>> 10:55 AM
>>>> >> >> >>To: 'Blind International Students
>>>> Mailing
>>>> >> List'
>>>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>>>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducingmyself
>>>> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Dan, not quite sure if this has
>>>> been
>>>> >> mentioned, but the current cost of
>>>> >> >> >>a
>>>> >> >> >>money identifier is $99, not $300
>>>> as
>>>> >> suggested.  ... See below.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>As for changing to a multi-size
>>>> bill
>>>> >> system,  it simply will not happen.
>>>> >> >> >>The cost to the USA
>>>> infrastructure would
>>>> >> be prohibitive if the rationale
>>>> >> >> >>remains purely an accessibility
>>>> >> standpoint, for which there is a
>>>> >> >> >>multiplicity of
>>>> workarounds/alternatives.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>* * * *
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >From the Braille Monitor for
>>>> December
>>>> >> 2009 at:
>>>> >> >> >>http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm09/bm0911/bm091118.htm
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>New Money Identifier Available:
>>>> >> >> >>We received the following press
>>>> release
>>>> >> describing a new money
>>>> >> >> >>identifier
>>>> >> >> >>now available in the United
>>>> States. Here,
>>>> >> in part, is the text of this
>>>> >> >> >>announcement:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Orbit Research has announced the
>>>> >> introduction of the iBill, the world's
>>>> >> >> >>first affordable talking
>>>> banknote
>>>> >> identifier for the blind and
>>>> >> >> >>vision-impaired.
>>>> >> >> >>Priced at $99, the 1.5 ounce
>>>> pager-sized
>>>> >> iBill represents a breakthrough
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>in
>>>> >> >> >>enabling blind and vision
>>>> impaired people
>>>> >> to achieve independence in the
>>>> >> >> >>everyday
>>>> >> >> >>necessity of using paper
>>>> currency. At
>>>> >> about a third of the cost of
>>>> >> >> >>existing
>>>> >> >> >>devices, the iBill offers
>>>> unrivaled
>>>> >> features, ease of use, and accuracy
>>>> >> >> >>of
>>>> >> >> >>identification.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>The iBill is an exceptionally
>>>> convenient
>>>> >> and affordable solution that
>>>> >> >> >>blind
>>>> >> >> >>and vision-impaired people can
>>>> use.
>>>> >> Measuring just 3 inches by 1.6
>>>> >> >> >>inches
>>>> >> >> >> by
>>>> >> >> >>0.7 inches, the ultra-slim and
>>>> compact
>>>> >> key-fob design provides the
>>>> >> >> >>ultimate
>>>> >> >> >>in convenience, allowing it to be
>>>> carried
>>>> >> unobtrusively in a pocket or
>>>> >> >> >>purse,
>>>> >> >> >>clipped to a belt, or attached to
>>>> a
>>>> >> keychain or lanyard. Among the
>>>> >> >> >>features
>>>> >> >> >>that set it apart from other such
>>>> devices
>>>> >> are its high accuracy (better
>>>> >> >> >> than
>>>> >> >> >>99.9 percent) and the
>>>> near-instantaneous
>>>> >> speed (less than one second in
>>>> >> >> >> most
>>>> >> >> >>cases) with which it identifies
>>>> >> banknotes.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>The iBill provides the simplest,
>>>> fastest,
>>>> >> and most accurate means to
>>>> >> >> >>identify U.S. banknotes. Its
>>>> unique
>>>> >> ergonomic design permits easy and
>>>> >> >> >>intuitive use
>>>> >> >> >>without training or practice.
>>>> When a
>>>> >> banknote is inserted into the
>>>> >> >> >>device,
>>>> >> >> >>its denomination is identified at
>>>> the
>>>> >> press of a button. Based on the
>>>> >> >> >> user's
>>>> >> >> >>preference, the denomination is
>>>> announced
>>>> >> by a clear and natural voice
>>>> >> >> >>or
>>>> >> >> >> by
>>>> >> >> >>tone or vibration for privacy.
>>>> The unit
>>>> >> identifies all U.S. banknotes in
>>>> >> >> >>circulation
>>>> >> >> >>and recognizes them in any
>>>> orientation.
>>>> >> Banknotes in poor physical
>>>> >> >> >> condition
>>>> >> >> >>are indicated as unidentifiable
>>>> and are
>>>> >> not misread. The unit is also
>>>> >> >> >>upgradeable
>>>> >> >> >>to recognize new banknote
>>>> designs.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>The iBill achieves all of this
>>>> while
>>>> >> operating on a single, commonly
>>>> >> >> >>available AAA battery, which
>>>> lasts for
>>>> >> over a year with typical use. Its
>>>> >> >> >>durable construction
>>>> >> >> >>and sealed design ensure
>>>> trouble-free use.
>>>> >> The unit is backed by a
>>>> >> >> >>one-year
>>>> >> >> >>warranty from Orbit Research,
>>>> and
>>>> >> toll-free customer support is
>>>> >> >> >>available.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>For further information contact
>>>> Orbit
>>>> >> Research, 3422 Old Capitol Trail,
>>>> >> >> >>Suite 585, Wilmington, DE 19808;
>>>> (888)
>>>> >> 606-7248;
>>>> >> >> >><http://www.orbitresearch.com>.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Guido D. Corona
>>>> >> >> >>Email: guidoc at austin.rr.com
>>>> >> >> >>Home office: (512) 996-9187
>>>> >> >> >>Mobile: (512) 466-1322
>>>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>>>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> >> On Behalf Of
>>>> >> >> >>Dan
>>>> >> >> >>Weiner
>>>> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
>>>> 9:17 AM
>>>> >> >> >>To: 'Blind International Students
>>>> Mailing
>>>> >> List'
>>>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>>>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>>>> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Wait, the NFB, our NFB which
>>>> claims that
>>>> >> any adaptation to money would
>>>> >> >> >> cause
>>>> >> >> >>the sighted to think less of our
>>>> ability
>>>> >> to handle money, this NFB now
>>>> >> >> >> wants
>>>> >> >> >>to study tactile identification
>>>> for
>>>> >> money?
>>>> >> >> >>Why do that, blindness is
>>>> reduced, with
>>>> >> proper training and tecnique, to
>>>> >> >> >> the
>>>> >> >> >>level of a nuisance.
>>>> >> >> >>Just because we have to ask
>>>> people what
>>>> >> our money is and someone could
>>>> >> >> >>give
>>>> >> >> >>us a load of bull shit  and tell
>>>> us
>>>> >> it's a five when it's a ten, doesn't
>>>> >> >> >>mean we should do anything about
>>>> it.
>>>> >> >> >>The proceeding was sarcasm for
>>>> those who
>>>> >> didn't guess--smile.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Most of the countries I have
>>>> visited
>>>> >> have paper money of different
>>>> >> >> >>sizes
>>>> >> >> >>and not too many people in these
>>>> countries
>>>> >> use our folding method of
>>>> >> >> >>money
>>>> >> >> >>identifying.
>>>> >> >> >>The Japanese actually told me
>>>> bluntly it
>>>> >> sounded weird--smile.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>A money identifyer, to quote our
>>>> friend
>>>> >> Carlie, is a bunch of crap, or
>>>> >> >> >>something like that.
>>>> >> >> >>Many aren't reliable and they
>>>> cost money.
>>>> >> >> >>At $300.00 for the Note Teller,
>>>> that means
>>>> >> a person getting six hundred
>>>> >> >> >>dollars social security wouldn't
>>>> be able
>>>> >> to eat that month.
>>>> >> >> >>Now, granted there are other
>>>> models, but I
>>>> >> haven't tried them yet.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Speaking of Carlie, I sincerely
>>>> apologize
>>>> >> for not being in touch, I
>>>> >> >> >>don't
>>>> >> >> >>know what I did with your Email
>>>> in which
>>>> >> you sent me contact info, so
>>>> >> >> >> please
>>>> >> >> >>write me again at:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>I think our Federation is
>>>> somewhat
>>>> >> selective on the projects we take on.
>>>> >> >> >>If we don't want to take it on,
>>>> then our
>>>> >> leaders say it's not necessary
>>>> >> >> >>rather than  saying we just
>>>> don't
>>>> >> have the time or inclination to deal
>>>> >> >> >>with
>>>> >> >> >>it.
>>>> >> >> >>I'm pretty sick of the organized
>>>> blind
>>>> >> movement as far as things like
>>>> >> >> >>that
>>>> >> >> >>are concerned, both ACB and NFB.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Cordially,
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Dan W.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>>>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> >> On Behalf Of
>>>> >> >> >>Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>>>> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
>>>> 8:30 AM
>>>> >> >> >>To: Blind International Students
>>>> Mailing
>>>> >> List
>>>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>>>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>>>> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Hi Anmol, and others
>>>> >> >> >>I just read many of the emails
>>>> about the
>>>> >> blind international division
>>>> >> >> >>and
>>>> >> >> >>the issue about money identifier.
>>>> I would
>>>> >> like to say this much about
>>>> >> >> >> money.
>>>> >> >> >>The NFB has been working for the
>>>> last two
>>>> >> years to get some kind of
>>>> >> >> >>tactile
>>>> >> >> >>identification system on the
>>>> paper bills.
>>>> >> Some of us who are totally
>>>> >> >> >>blind
>>>> >> >> >>are participating in a study. We
>>>> may have
>>>> >> the results by next year.
>>>> >> >> >>The second issue some have
>>>> brought up is
>>>> >> being independent. There is a
>>>> >> >> >>wonderful speech by Dr. Jernigan,
>>>> "The
>>>> >> Nature of Independence" It is
>>>> >> >> >>available on the NFB website. I
>>>> suggest
>>>> >> that you read it. Asking for
>>>> >> >> >>help
>>>> >> >> >> is
>>>> >> >> >>not new. Even sighted people ask
>>>> for it.
>>>> >> >> >>I will say that a division will
>>>> be good. I
>>>> >> think that committee meetings
>>>> >> >> >>have happened enough.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Yasmin Reyazuddin
>>>> >> >> >>Aging & Disability services
>>>> >> >> >>Montgomery County Government
>>>> >> >> >>Department of Health & human
>>>> Services
>>>> >> >> >>401 Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
>>>> >> >> >>Rockville MD 20850
>>>> >> >> >>240-777-0311 (MC311)
>>>> >> >> >>240-777-1556 (personal)
>>>> >> >> >>240-777-1495 (fax)
>>>> >> >> >>office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
>>>> >> >> >>Languages English, Hindi, Urdu,
>>>> Braille
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>This message may contain
>>>> protected health
>>>> >> information or other
>>>> >> >> >>information
>>>> >> >> >>that is confidential or
>>>> privileged. If you
>>>> >> are not the intended
>>>> >> >> >>recipient,
>>>> >> >> >>please contact the sender by
>>>> return mail
>>>> >> and destroy any copies of this
>>>> >> >> >>material.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Thank you.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>>>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> >> On Behalf Of
>>>> >> >> >>Anmol
>>>> >> >> >>Bhatia
>>>> >> >> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010
>>>> 9:30 PM
>>>> >> >> >>To: Blind International Students
>>>> Mailing
>>>> >> List
>>>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>>>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>>>> >> >> >> andcommentson
>>>> >> >> >>your discussion
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Hello Reyazuddin,,
>>>> >> >> >>The sad reality is that the same
>>>> is true
>>>> >> for the schools for the blind
>>>> >> >> >>in
>>>> >> >> >>the United States. The Arkansas
>>>> School for
>>>> >> the Blind was not the same
>>>> >> >> >>when
>>>> >> >> >> I
>>>> >> >> >>graduated from there as it was
>>>> when I
>>>> >> started there. I often blind
>>>> >> >> >>people
>>>> >> >> >>that we are our own worst
>>>> enemies. It is a
>>>> >> pleg which has hit blind
>>>> >> >> >>community, blind schools, blind
>>>> >> organizations and professnals serving
>>>> >> >> >>the
>>>> >> >> >>blind community and we need a
>>>> quick cure!
>>>> >> lol
>>>> >> >> >>However, our generation "our
>>>> generation
>>>> >> and beyound" can not let the
>>>> >> >> >>same
>>>> >> >> >>happen when we come in
>>>> leadership
>>>> >> positions. I am also from India and
>>>> >> >> >> always
>>>> >> >> >>like to meet other blind people
>>>> from
>>>> >> India.
>>>> >> >> >>Anmol
>>>> >> >> >>I seldom think about my
>>>> limitations, and
>>>> >> they never make me sad. Perhaps
>>>> >> >> >>there is just a touch of yearning
>>>> at
>>>> >> times; but it is vague, like a
>>>> >> >> >>breeze
>>>> >> >> >>among flowers.
>>>> >> >> >>Hellen Keller
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Reyazuddin,
>>>> Yasmin
>>>> >> >> >><Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> > From: Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>>>> >> >> >> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>>>> >> >> >> > Subject: Re:
>>>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>>>> and
>>>> >> >> >>commentson your discussion
>>>> >> >> >> > To: "Blind International
>>>> Students
>>>> >> Mailing List"
>>>> >> >> >><blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >> >> >> > Date: Tuesday, August 3,
>>>> 2010, 3:10
>>>> >> PM
>>>> >> >> >> > Hi Jan,
>>>> >> >> >> > I like your idea. We all
>>>> have to
>>>> >> think about what is
>>>> >> >> >> > important. For the group. I
>>>> have not
>>>> >> shared but here it is.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Last November I went to
>>>> India, and
>>>> >> visited my old school.
>>>> >> >> >> > This used to be a very good
>>>> school
>>>> >> when I went there. We had
>>>> >> >> >> > blind teachers and some
>>>> sighted
>>>> >> teachers. There were blind
>>>> >> >> >> > people working in different
>>>> jobs.
>>>> >> >> >> > I found out that the school
>>>> has gone
>>>> >> down hill, meaning
>>>> >> >> >> > there is no hope for the
>>>> students.
>>>> >> The school administration
>>>> >> >> >> > does not serve the blind
>>>> community.
>>>> >> They serve their own
>>>> >> >> >> > pockets. They have very few
>>>> real
>>>> >> teachers and the rest are
>>>> >> >> >> > administration pets.
>>>> >> >> >> > When I went there, the
>>>> security
>>>> >> guard told me that I was
>>>> >> >> >> > not welcome. The school was
>>>> closed
>>>> >> and no staff was there. I
>>>> >> >> >> > persisted and went in. I
>>>> met some of
>>>> >> my old teachers who
>>>> >> >> >> > gave me the bad news. The
>>>> school
>>>> >> administration and the
>>>> >> >> >> > teachers are fighting
>>>> against each
>>>> >> other. There are human
>>>> >> >> >> > rights violations of all
>>>> levels.
>>>> >> >> >> > Blind graduates of the
>>>> school are no
>>>> >> longer able to go to
>>>> >> >> >> > college and they can not
>>>> get jobs.
>>>> >> >> >> > Students at the school are
>>>> not
>>>> >> getting any assistance or
>>>> >> >> >> > education. If you have a
>>>> will you
>>>> >> may get through but it is
>>>> >> >> >> > very difficult.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > I am sure that many others
>>>> will have
>>>> >> similar stories.
>>>> >> >> >> > Right now I am mentoring a
>>>> young
>>>> >> blind man who lives in
>>>> >> >> >> > India by email.
>>>> >> >> >> > I am sorry if this is not
>>>> the right
>>>> >> forum for this
>>>> >> >> >> > discussion.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Yasmin Reyazuddin
>>>> >> >> >> > Aging & Disability
>>>> services
>>>> >> >> >> > Montgomery County
>>>> Government
>>>> >> >> >> > Department of Health &
>>>> human
>>>> >> Services
>>>> >> >> >> > 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd
>>>> floor)
>>>> >> >> >> > Rockville MD 20850
>>>> >> >> >> > 240-777-0311 (MC311)
>>>> >> >> >> > 240-777-1556 (personal)
>>>> >> >> >> > 240-777-1495 (fax)
>>>> >> >> >> > office hours 8:30 am 5:00
>>>> pm
>>>> >> >> >> > Languages English, Hindi,
>>>> Urdu,
>>>> >> Braille
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > This message may contain
>>>> protected
>>>> >> health information or
>>>> >> >> >> > other information that is
>>>> >> confidential or privileged. If you
>>>> >> >> >> > are not the intended
>>>> recipient,
>>>> >> please contact the sender by
>>>> >> >> >> > return mail and destroy any
>>>> copies
>>>> >> of this material.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Thank you.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> >> >> > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> >> >> >> > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> >> >> >> > On Behalf Of jan wright
>>>> >> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03,
>>>> 2010 3:40
>>>> >> PM
>>>> >> >> >> > To: Blind International
>>>> Students
>>>> >> Mailing List
>>>> >> >> >> > Subject: Re:
>>>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing
>>>> >> >> >> > myself and commentson your
>>>> >> discussion
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >   Hi Jim, Yasmin and
>>>> >> Anmol,
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Anmol, I will ask:
>>>> >> >> >> > What part of the Nfb
>>>> philosophy do
>>>> >> you find does not fit
>>>> >> >> >> > into the
>>>> >> >> >> > category of "positive."
>>>> >> >> >> > In short, which part do you
>>>> have a
>>>> >> difficult time
>>>> >> >> >> > supporting?
>>>> >> >> >> > We all -- well most of us,
>>>> have
>>>> >> certain things that we are
>>>> >> >> >> > passionate
>>>> >> >> >> > about within the NFB and
>>>> some things
>>>> >> that we are not as
>>>> >> >> >> > passionate about.
>>>> >> >> >> > Some of us are passionate
>>>> about
>>>> >> braille! Others are
>>>> >> >> >> > passionate about
>>>> >> >> >> > independent travel. Others
>>>> are
>>>> >> passionate about the "image
>>>> >> >> >> > of the
>>>> >> >> >> > blind in public."
>>>> >> >> >> > I must admit:
>>>> >> >> >> > There are parts of the
>>>> philosophy
>>>> >> that I support
>>>> >> >> >> > whole-heartedly.
>>>> >> >> >> > For example: I do believe
>>>> that
>>>> >> everyone should have a
>>>> >> >> >> > chance to learn
>>>> >> >> >> > braille as a viable way of
>>>> >> communicating.
>>>> >> >> >> > I believe that blind people
>>>> should
>>>> >> be taught by blind
>>>> >> >> >> > people.
>>>> >> >> >> > But, (one example of my
>>>> >> divergence)  I did hear that
>>>> >> >> >> > in the philosophy
>>>> >> >> >> > that the NFB is skeptical
>>>> (and does
>>>> >> not care) to work with
>>>> >> >> >> > other
>>>> >> >> >> > organizations of disabled
>>>> people.
>>>> >> >> >> > They say that if they work
>>>> with
>>>> >> other disabled people's
>>>> >> >> >> > organizations,
>>>> >> >> >> > blind people get  put on
>>>> the
>>>> >> backburner.
>>>> >> >> >> > I understand this
>>>> skepticism. But, I
>>>> >> would encourage us to
>>>> >> >> >> > still try
>>>> >> >> >> > to work with other
>>>> organizations -
>>>> >> yet, have our goal
>>>> >> >> >> > firmly planted
>>>> >> >> >> > in our mind.
>>>> >> >> >> > So, you might say that I
>>>> "disagree,"
>>>> >> with that portion of
>>>> >> >> >> > the philosophy.
>>>> >> >> >> > But, for me:
>>>> >> >> >> > I am in the nfb because I
>>>> want to
>>>> >> help blind people achieve
>>>> >> >> >> > their
>>>> >> >> >> > highest  potential.
>>>> >> >> >> > I want to show us (I am not
>>>> so
>>>> >> worried about that fickle
>>>> >> >> >> > sighted
>>>> >> >> >> > public) that We can live
>>>> the life
>>>> >> that we want.
>>>> >> >> >> > We can be parents.
>>>> >> >> >> > We can be professionals.
>>>> >> >> >> > We can go on trips
>>>> independently.
>>>> >> >> >> > We can enjoy activities
>>>> such as
>>>> >> sports, games, playing an
>>>> >> >> >> > instrument,
>>>> >> >> >> > picnics, etc.
>>>> >> >> >> > We can worship as we
>>>> choose.
>>>> >> >> >> > We can go to college.
>>>> >> >> >> > We can have a career.
>>>> >> >> >> > We can live fulfilling
>>>> lives full of
>>>> >> all of the events
>>>> >> >> >> > that  are
>>>> >> >> >> > present in the lives of
>>>> the
>>>> >> sighted.
>>>> >> >> >> > That is why I am here.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > And, maybe that is what we
>>>> can take
>>>> >> to other countries.
>>>> >> >> >> > Thoughts?????
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > There are organizations in
>>>> other
>>>> >> countries.
>>>> >> >> >> > Does the world Blind Union
>>>> have a
>>>> >> listing of these
>>>> >> >> >> > organizations in
>>>> >> >> >> > each country?
>>>> >> >> >> > I have found some, but not
>>>> many.
>>>> >> >> >> > I thought that one thing
>>>> that the
>>>> >> World Blind Union can do
>>>> >> >> >> > is to
>>>> >> >> >> > provide an international
>>>> directory
>>>> >> of organizations and
>>>> >> >> >> > services for
>>>> >> >> >> > the blind.
>>>> >> >> >> > It would also be nice if
>>>> they could
>>>> >> help with an internet
>>>> >> >> >> > site and
>>>> >> >> >> > a bit of email.
>>>> >> >> >> > Yes, I have seen the
>>>> International
>>>> >> Library Service provide
>>>> >> >> >> > a small
>>>> >> >> >> > list, but it is out of
>>>> date, I am
>>>> >> positive.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Blind corps, well, I will
>>>> have to
>>>> >> google this.
>>>> >> >> >> > Do they only go to
>>>> turkey?????
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > I am sorry to hear about
>>>> Robert
>>>> >> Leslie Newman.
>>>> >> >> >> > I  always enjoyed the
>>>> thought
>>>> >> provoker and hope that
>>>> >> >> >> > someday, a writer
>>>> >> >> >> > takes it on.
>>>> >> >> >> > Jan
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > On 8/3/10, Anmol Bhatia
>>>> <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > > Hello James,
>>>> >> >> >> > > First and for most
>>>> welcome to
>>>> >> the list.
>>>> >> >> >> > > I like Hina ecco the
>>>> value that
>>>> >> people like you and
>>>> >> >> >> > Jan bring to
>>>> >> >> >> > > international students
>>>> and for
>>>> >> blind individuals in
>>>> >> >> >> > under developed
>>>> >> >> >> > > countries.
>>>> >> >> >> > > During the Inter
>>>> Cultural
>>>> >> Exchange Committee meeting,
>>>> >> >> >> > Buna Dahal, one of the
>>>> >> >> >> > > co-founders of Blind
>>>> Core did a
>>>> >> presentation on Blind
>>>> >> >> >> > Cor and as I mentioned
>>>> >> >> >> > > to the group
>>>> sometime ago
>>>> >> on the discussion that
>>>> >> >> >> > maybe this can be one of
>>>> >> >> >> > > our adopted projects.
>>>> >> >> >> > > I actually met the
>>>> young lady
>>>> >> from Japan whom you were
>>>> >> >> >> > refering to at the
>>>> >> >> >> > > Travel and Tureism
>>>> chapter
>>>> >> meeting. To be quite
>>>> >> >> >> > honest, she provided me
>>>> with
>>>> >> >> >> > > her contact
>>>> information and I
>>>> >> accidently deleted it so
>>>> >> >> >> > if it would be
>>>> >> >> >> > > possible for you to
>>>> get her
>>>> >> contact information and
>>>> >> >> >> > email me off list I
>>>> >> >> >> > > would really
>>>> appreciate it.
>>>> >> >> >> > > This brings up another
>>>> idea!
>>>> >> Maybe we could advertise
>>>> >> >> >> > with the Travel and
>>>> >> >> >> > > Tureism group and send
>>>> out a
>>>> >> flyer on their list
>>>> >> >> >> > serve. I am pretty sure
>>>> >> >> >> > > there would be members
>>>> in this
>>>> >> group who would love to
>>>> >> >> >> > connect with
>>>> >> >> >> > > international students
>>>> and
>>>> >> possibley do some
>>>> >> >> >> > international development
>>>> >> >> >> > > project.
>>>> >> >> >> > > I am glad you brought
>>>> the point
>>>> >> about starting a
>>>> >> >> >> > special interest
>>>> >> >> >> > > international division
>>>> within
>>>> >> NFB. I think we would
>>>> >> >> >> > have more supporters
>>>> >> >> >> > > then not. As you
>>>> mentioned that
>>>> >> most people would
>>>> >> >> >> > enthusiastically support
>>>> >> >> >> > > us and this is true
>>>> and these
>>>> >> people would also bring
>>>> >> >> >> > our group value. My
>>>> >> >> >> > > vision is that our
>>>> group
>>>> >> would consist of
>>>> >> >> >> > international students,
>>>> people
>>>> >> >> >> > > who care deeply about
>>>> >> international students such as
>>>> >> >> >> > yourself and Jan and
>>>> >> >> >> > > Americans who are
>>>> interested in
>>>> >> travel abroad eather
>>>> >> >> >> > for studies or just
>>>> >> >> >> > > travel or are
>>>> interested in
>>>> >> making international
>>>> >> >> >> > friends. I think we would
>>>> >> >> >> > > also have alot of
>>>> second
>>>> >> generation US citizens
>>>> >> >> >> > meaning those who are
>>>> >> >> >> > > naturalized  US
>>>> citizens.
>>>> >> I met a person who was a
>>>> >> >> >> > naturalized  US citizen
>>>> >> >> >> > > but said he will
>>>> always be
>>>> >> international in heart.
>>>> >> >> >> > > In addition, we would
>>>> have
>>>> >> supportors who may not
>>>> >> >> >> > Necessarily  be active
>>>> >> >> >> > > with our group,  but
>>>> would
>>>> >> be supportors  of our
>>>> >> >> >> > cause. As you mentioned,
>>>> >> >> >> > > there will certainly
>>>> be a few
>>>> >> who would be hostile to
>>>> >> >> >> > our cause and
>>>> >> >> >> > > existence but these
>>>> will be
>>>> >> few. One thing I have
>>>> >> >> >> > learned in more then 20
>>>> >> >> >> > > years of living in the
>>>> United
>>>> >> States is that people
>>>> >> >> >> > who are hostile towards
>>>> >> >> >> > > international students
>>>> and
>>>> >> people who are not lucky
>>>> >> >> >> > enough to be US citizens
>>>> >> >> >> > > are usually the same
>>>> people who
>>>> >> hold negative attitude
>>>> >> >> >> > towards many things
>>>> >> >> >> > > including blindness
>>>> and are
>>>> >> usually the people who are
>>>> >> >> >> > self serving meaning
>>>> >> >> >> > > only think about what
>>>> is best
>>>> >> for them. I have learned
>>>> >> >> >> > through experience
>>>> >> >> >> > > that it is best just
>>>> to ignore
>>>> >> these people.
>>>> >> >> >> > > As you mentioned the
>>>> benefit a
>>>> >> organized special
>>>> >> >> >> > interest  group for us is
>>>> >> >> >> > > that it would allow us
>>>> to have
>>>> >> a leadership structure,
>>>> >> >> >> > allow us to open up a
>>>> >> >> >> > > bank account and allow
>>>> us to
>>>> >> rais funds.
>>>> >> >> >> > > I like the idea of
>>>> writing up a
>>>> >> one page add and
>>>> >> >> >> > distribute it to various
>>>> >> >> >> > > groups and anywhere
>>>> else we may
>>>> >> be able to recruit. My
>>>> >> >> >> > suggestion is that we
>>>> >> >> >> > > have a conference call
>>>> maybe as
>>>> >> soon  as this
>>>> >> >> >> > weekend to discuss the
>>>> content
>>>> >> >> >> > > of the add and
>>>> brainstorm of
>>>> >> places where we could
>>>> >> >> >> > advertise. Any thoughts?
>>>> >> >> >> > > Jim you brought up
>>>> another
>>>> >> advantage of our group and
>>>> >> >> >> > this list. Amazing how
>>>> >> >> >> > > ideas pop up in one's
>>>> mind!
>>>> >> When you mentioned that
>>>> >> >> >> > you were Hina's pen-pal,
>>>> >> >> >> > > it occured to me that
>>>> this
>>>> >> group would be excellent
>>>> >> >> >> > place to build pen-pal
>>>> >> >> >> > > relationships with
>>>> blind
>>>> >> individuals in other
>>>> >> >> >> > countries. To be quite
>>>> frank a
>>>> >> >> >> > > teacher at the
>>>> Arkansas School
>>>> >> for the Blind
>>>> >> >> >> > encouraged me to find a
>>>> pen-pal
>>>> >> >> >> > > but I was simply just
>>>> to lazy
>>>> >> to do it. This were the
>>>> >> >> >> > days of writing and
>>>> >> >> >> > > mailing the letter
>>>> before the
>>>> >> days of email and
>>>> >> >> >> > internet. Amazing how
>>>> >> >> >> > > technology has changed
>>>> even
>>>> >> with communicating with
>>>> >> >> >> > pen-pal!
>>>> >> >> >> > > Anyways, Jim welcome
>>>> to the
>>>> >> list and please give
>>>> >> >> >> > Robbert Lesliy Newman our
>>>> >> >> >> > > best regard and wish
>>>> him
>>>> >> speady  recovery.
>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> > > sincerely,
>>>> >> >> >> > > Anmol
>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> > > I seldom think about
>>>> my
>>>> >> limitations, and they never
>>>> >> >> >> > make me sad. Perhaps
>>>> >> >> >> > > there is just a touch
>>>> of
>>>> >> yearning at times; but it is
>>>> >> >> >> > vague, like a breeze
>>>> >> >> >> > > among flowers.
>>>> >> >> >> > > Hellen Keller
>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> > > --- On Mon, 8/2/10,
>>>> James H.
>>>> >> "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR
>>>> >> >> >> > <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > > wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> From: James H.
>>>> "Jim"
>>>> >> Canaday M.A. N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Subject:
>>>> >> [Blind-international-students]
>>>> >> >> >> > introducing myself and
>>>> comments on
>>>> >> >> >> > >> your discussion
>>>> >> >> >> > >> To: "Blind
>>>> International
>>>> >> Students Mailing List"
>>>> >> >> >> > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Date: Monday,
>>>> August 2,
>>>> >> 2010, 7:53 PM
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Hello members of
>>>> the Blind
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Internationals nfb
>>>> list;
>>>> >> >> >> > >> I am Jim
>>>> Canaday.  I
>>>> >> am the president of the
>>>> >> >> >> > Jayhawk
>>>> >> >> >> > >> chapter of the NFB
>>>> of
>>>> >> kansas, here in Lawrence
>>>> >> >> >> > (where Kansas
>>>> >> >> >> > >> University is
>>>> >> located).  I am also active with
>>>> >> >> >> > the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> writers division
>>>> of NFB.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> I'll give more of
>>>> an
>>>> >> introduction later down this
>>>> >> >> >> > e-mail.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > I have been
>>>> delighted
>>>> >> that nfb  supported
>>>> >> >> >> > this effort
>>>> >> >> >> > >> by providing the
>>>> list for
>>>> >> internationals.  I
>>>> >> >> >> > care
>>>> >> >> >> > >> deeply about
>>>> blind
>>>> >> international students who are
>>>> >> >> >> > here in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> the U.S.  I am
>>>> also
>>>> >> quite concerned about
>>>> >> >> >> > conditions
>>>> >> >> >> > >> for most blind
>>>> people in
>>>> >> the world.  I know very
>>>> >> >> >> > well
>>>> >> >> >> > >> in my heart that
>>>> blind
>>>> >> people have it much better
>>>> >> >> >> > here than
>>>> >> >> >> > >> in most of the
>>>> world and
>>>> >> that means that we have a
>>>> >> >> >> > serious
>>>> >> >> >> > >> responsibility.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Robert Leslie
>>>> Newman,
>>>> >> president of the writers
>>>> >> >> >> > division and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> active member of
>>>> Blind
>>>> >> Corps is currently in the
>>>> >> >> >> > hospital,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> he lives in
>>>> nebraska.
>>>> >> he cares deeply and works
>>>> >> >> >> > >> diligently to
>>>> bring the nfb
>>>> >> philosophy of
>>>> >> >> >> > orientation and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> mobility to other
>>>> countries
>>>> >> through blind corps;
>>>> >> >> >> > they
>>>> >> >> >> > >> go teach the
>>>> teachers
>>>> >> primarily.  that  way
>>>> >> >> >> > other
>>>> >> >> >> > >> countries can
>>>> train their
>>>> >> own blind people.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> also from nebraska
>>>> is Fetos
>>>> >> Floyd who grew to
>>>> >> >> >> > adulthood in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Turkey.  she is
>>>> I
>>>> >> believe the head of the
>>>> >> >> >> > nebraska
>>>> >> >> >> > >> center for the
>>>> blind where
>>>> >> training takes place
>>>> >> >> >> > and she
>>>> >> >> >> > >> participates in
>>>> blind corps
>>>> >> too.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> robert and fetos
>>>> and
>>>> >> several others recently
>>>> >> >> >> > returned from
>>>> >> >> >> > >> their second trip
>>>> to
>>>> >> turkey.  it seems that the
>>>> >> >> >> > program
>>>> >> >> >> > >> in turkey is doing
>>>> very
>>>> >> well.  I believe that all
>>>> >> >> >> > of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> the members of
>>>> Blind Corps
>>>> >> are members of NFB.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> I have
>>>> communicated with
>>>> >> officers of NABS about
>>>> >> >> >> > this group
>>>> >> >> >> > >> recently, and
>>>> several
>>>> >> months ago.  there is an
>>>> >> >> >> > >> international grad
>>>> student
>>>> >> here in my chapter and
>>>> >> >> >> > I have
>>>> >> >> >> > >> told her of this
>>>> >> list.  I cannot tell you why she
>>>> >> >> >> > is
>>>> >> >> >> > >> hesitant to join.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> it's really great
>>>> to see
>>>> >> the activity on this list
>>>> >> >> >> > increase
>>>> >> >> >> > >> so
>>>> >> much!   blind people often experience
>>>> >> >> >> > >> isolation.  I
>>>> think
>>>> >> that may often be worse for
>>>> >> >> >> > blind
>>>> >> >> >> > >> international
>>>> students who
>>>> >> come here to study.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> if I can give a
>>>> little
>>>> >> advice,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> I believe that
>>>> >> international students and
>>>> >> >> >> > internationals in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> the U.S. should
>>>> actually
>>>> >> have their own division
>>>> >> >> >> > in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> NFB.  you are at
>>>> the
>>>> >> beginning of this process.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> or you are at the
>>>> beginning
>>>> >> of becoming a special
>>>> >> >> >> > interest
>>>> >> >> >> > >> group.  as a
>>>> division
>>>> >> you will get more attention
>>>> >> >> >> > and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> have more impact
>>>> on
>>>> >> others.  it takes time to
>>>> >> >> >> > build a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> group, organize
>>>> and form a
>>>> >> division.  and your
>>>> >> >> >> > >> experience is
>>>> actually
>>>> >> typical.  yes some people
>>>> >> >> >> > may be
>>>> >> >> >> > >> put off by your
>>>> being
>>>> >> internationals, but most
>>>> >> >> >> > will
>>>> >> >> >> > >> not.  some
>>>> >> people  will be put off by the fact
>>>> >> >> >> > >> that I am from
>>>> kansas,
>>>> >> too.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Divisions start
>>>> from the
>>>> >> ground up most often.
>>>> >> >> >> > you
>>>> >> >> >> > >> have taken steps
>>>> >> already like other groups did:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> forming
>>>> communication
>>>> >> within yourselves; defining
>>>> >> >> >> > your
>>>> >> >> >> > >> identity and your
>>>> >> interests; and forming goals.
>>>> >> >> >> > I hope
>>>> >> >> >> > >> you might find in
>>>> your
>>>> >> hearts some patience with
>>>> >> >> >> > the rest of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> us in the
>>>> federation, as we
>>>> >> are all human too.
>>>> >> >> >> > some of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> us will
>>>> enthusiastically
>>>> >> work with internationals,
>>>> >> >> >> > many will
>>>> >> >> >> > >> be shy or busy
>>>> with other
>>>> >> interests, and a few
>>>> >> >> >> > will be truly
>>>> >> >> >> > >> hostile.  please
>>>> don't
>>>> >> let the few bad people put
>>>> >> >> >> > you
>>>> >> >> >> > >> off.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> more advice.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> maybe you all have
>>>> done
>>>> >> this but I have not seen
>>>> >> >> >> > it.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> you are now in the
>>>> stage of
>>>> >> getting interested
>>>> >> >> >> > people
>>>> >> >> >> > >> together for your
>>>> >> organization.  a very simple
>>>> >> >> >> > thing
>>>> >> >> >> > >> you can do in this
>>>> is to
>>>> >> write a direct one page
>>>> >> >> >> > >> statement.  your
>>>> >> organization's statement should
>>>> >> >> >> > give
>>>> >> >> >> > >> your tentative
>>>> name, your
>>>> >> e-mail list info for
>>>> >> >> >> > subscribing,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> who you are, what
>>>> your
>>>> >> interests are, and who you
>>>> >> >> >> > are
>>>> >> >> >> > >> looking for as
>>>> new
>>>> >> members.  and any other
>>>> >> >> >> > contact
>>>> >> >> >> > >> information that
>>>> would be
>>>> >> useful.  your statement
>>>> >> >> >> > then
>>>> >> >> >> > >> can be easily
>>>> posted to
>>>> >> groups, and people can
>>>> >> >> >> > forward it
>>>> >> >> >> > >> along.  you will
>>>> have
>>>> >> a single  presentation
>>>> >> >> >> > that
>>>> >> >> >> > >> you all have
>>>> agreed on that
>>>> >> represents you.
>>>> >> >> >> > your
>>>> >> >> >> > >> statement also can
>>>> go into
>>>> >> the Braille Monitor.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> to get this
>>>> statement
>>>> >> together, you need to first
>>>> >> >> >> > decide
>>>> >> >> >> > >> what your goals
>>>> and
>>>> >> interests are.  think of who
>>>> >> >> >> > you
>>>> >> >> >> > >> are looking for
>>>> as
>>>> >> potential members.  and, you
>>>> >> >> >> > can
>>>> >> >> >> > >> consider how to
>>>> put your
>>>> >> group's presentation
>>>> >> >> >> > together from
>>>> >> >> >> > >> those decisions.
>>>> I
>>>> >> would not presume to suggest
>>>> >> >> >> > to you
>>>> >> >> >> > >> what these should
>>>> be.
>>>> >> but if you have a unified
>>>> >> >> >> > >> message, and one
>>>> that is
>>>> >> very easily distributed,
>>>> >> >> >> > it is very
>>>> >> >> >> > >> powerful.  there
>>>> are
>>>> >> people you want in your
>>>> >> >> >> > group who
>>>> >> >> >> > >> may have to hear
>>>> about it
>>>> >> two or more times before
>>>> >> >> >> > they
>>>> >> >> >> > >> reach out to you.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> I believe strongly
>>>> in NFB,
>>>> >> and I also know that
>>>> >> >> >> > >> internationals
>>>> are
>>>> >> wonderful people who also teach
>>>> >> >> >> > the rest
>>>> >> >> >> > >> of us much.  so I
>>>> very
>>>> >> strongly hope that you
>>>> >> >> >> > will work
>>>> >> >> >> > >> within NFB.  NFB
>>>> has
>>>> >> great resources you will
>>>> >> >> >> > find
>>>> >> >> >> > >> helpful.  it also
>>>> has
>>>> >> a wonderful network of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> people.  NFB will
>>>> be
>>>> >> much better with you in it.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> though you do not
>>>> have a
>>>> >> formal organization now,
>>>> >> >> >> > it would
>>>> >> >> >> > >> be worth
>>>> investigating
>>>> >> forming one.  that way you
>>>> >> >> >> > can
>>>> >> >> >> > >> designate officers
>>>> and have
>>>> >> a bank account.
>>>> >> >> >> > also,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> others will see
>>>> you are
>>>> >> serious by taking these
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> steps.   again, many other divisions and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> special interest
>>>> groups
>>>> >> have done the same
>>>> >> >> >> > thing.  and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> most started with
>>>> very
>>>> >> little if any push or
>>>> >> >> >> > support from
>>>> >> >> >> > >> NFB national
>>>> >> leadership.  there are at least two
>>>> >> >> >> > other
>>>> >> >> >> > >> nfb groups I
>>>> could
>>>> >> participate with, but I do not
>>>> >> >> >> > have the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> time or energy to
>>>> join in
>>>> >> with them.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> if you look at the
>>>> writers
>>>> >> division website
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> www.nfb-writers-division.org
>>>> >> >> >> > >> you will see that
>>>> we have a
>>>> >> very good website.
>>>> >> >> >> > this
>>>> >> >> >> > >> is also provided
>>>> by the
>>>> >> national organization.
>>>> >> >> >> > but
>>>> >> >> >> > >> they did not
>>>> provide such
>>>> >> things for the writers
>>>> >> >> >> > division
>>>> >> >> >> > >> until it was
>>>> organized and
>>>> >> functioning.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> enough advice?
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> *I am here because
>>>> of
>>>> >> Hina.  five years and a
>>>> >> >> >> > month
>>>> >> >> >> > >> ago, I wrote to
>>>> her in
>>>> >> Pakistan, and I was
>>>> >> >> >> > incredibly
>>>> >> >> >> > >> fortunate to be
>>>> her pen
>>>> >> pal.  she is a dear
>>>> >> >> >> > friend of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> mine.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> the M.A. after my
>>>> name is
>>>> >> in clinical psychology,
>>>> >> >> >> > and I
>>>> >> >> >> > >> completed the
>>>> practicum as
>>>> >> a student
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> therapist.   I earned the degree at kansas
>>>> >> >> >> > >> university in
>>>> 1991, with no
>>>> >> help from kansas
>>>> >> >> >> > >> university.  K.U.
>>>> has
>>>> >> a sad long history of not
>>>> >> >> >> > >> properly providing
>>>> services
>>>> >> for blind students.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> I grew up in rural
>>>> central
>>>> >> california so I am
>>>> >> >> >> > curious about
>>>> >> >> >> > >> where Miso
>>>> lives.  I
>>>> >> was completely blind from
>>>> >> >> >> > age 13,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> and partial
>>>> before
>>>> >> that.  my bachelor's degree is
>>>> >> >> >> > from
>>>> >> >> >> > >> the university of
>>>> >> california at davis.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> I am married and
>>>> have no
>>>> >> children.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> I hope I can help
>>>> this
>>>> >> group to grow and
>>>> >> >> >> > flourish.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> jc
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> At 04:48 PM
>>>> 8/2/2010, you
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > Hello,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > Jan if you
>>>> will recall
>>>> >> one of the co-founders
>>>> >> >> >> > of Blind
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Core was from
>>>> Turkey and is
>>>> >> I believe the director
>>>> >> >> >> > of VR in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Nebraska. However,
>>>> do not
>>>> >> quote me on this. I do
>>>> >> >> >> > not agree
>>>> >> >> >> > >> about bringing
>>>> NFB
>>>> >> philosophy to my country but a
>>>> >> >> >> > philosophy
>>>> >> >> >> > >> which promotes
>>>> possitive
>>>> >> attitude about blindness
>>>> >> >> >> > and a can
>>>> >> >> >> > >> do attitude. Just
>>>> my two
>>>> >> sense .
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > Anmol
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > I seldom
>>>> think about
>>>> >> my limitations, and they
>>>> >> >> >> > never
>>>> >> >> >> > >> make me sad.
>>>> Perhaps there
>>>> >> is just a touch of
>>>> >> >> >> > yearning at
>>>> >> >> >> > >> times; but it is
>>>> vague,
>>>> >> like a breeze among
>>>> >> >> >> > flowers.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > Hellen
>>>> Keller
>>>> >> >> >> > >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > --- On Mon,
>>>> 8/2/10,
>>>> >> Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > From:
>>>> Reyazuddin,
>>>> >> Yasmin
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Subject:
>>>> Re:
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> [Blind-international-students]
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> [Blind-international-students introduction
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > To:
>>>> "Blind
>>>> >> International Students
>>>> >> >> >> > Mailing List"
>>>> >> >> >> > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Date:
>>>> Monday,
>>>> >> August 2, 2010, 3:42 PM
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Hi Hena
>>>> and all
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Once
>>>> again, we
>>>> >> need to communicate with
>>>> >> >> >> > Ron Brown
>>>> >> >> >> > >> and see
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > if he
>>>> will
>>>> >> support us. Also if some of
>>>> >> >> >> > you will
>>>> >> >> >> > >> remember
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > there
>>>> was a group
>>>> >> of blind
>>>> >> >> >> > federationists who
>>>> >> >> >> > >> went to Turkey
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > to teach
>>>> the
>>>> >> blind professionals there.
>>>> >> >> >> > May be we
>>>> >> >> >> > >> need to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > talk
>>>> with Robert
>>>> >> Leslie Newman from
>>>> >> >> >> > Nebraska who
>>>> >> >> >> > >> did the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> program.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > The NFB
>>>> has send
>>>> >> out people to other
>>>> >> >> >> > countries
>>>> >> >> >> > >> for teaching
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> federation
>>>> >> philosophy.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > We who
>>>> get
>>>> >> trained here need to go back
>>>> >> >> >> > to our
>>>> >> >> >> > >> home country
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > and take
>>>> the
>>>> >> federation to people
>>>> >> >> >> > there.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Yasmin
>>>> >> Reyazuddin
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Aging
>>>> &
>>>> >> Disability services
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> Montgomery County
>>>> >> Government
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
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>>>> Hungerford
>>>> >> Drive (3rd floor)
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>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> 240-777-0311
>>>> >> (MC311)
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
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>>>> you
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>>>> >> intended recipient, please
>>>> >> >> >> > contact
>>>> >> >> >> > >> the sender by
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > return
>>>> mail and
>>>> >> destroy any copies of
>>>> >> >> >> > this
>>>> >> >> >> > >> material.
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>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>>>> Behalf Of hina
>>>> >> altaf
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Sent:
>>>> Monday,
>>>> >> August 02, 2010 4:18 PM
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > To:
>>>> Blind
>>>> >> International Students Mailing
>>>> >> >> >> > List
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Subject:
>>>> Re:
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> [Blind-international-students]
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > hi jan,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >  yes
>>>> that is
>>>> >> why i started this list
>>>> >> >> >> > and had
>>>> >> >> >> > >> philip help me
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > as co
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > founder.
>>>> buna is
>>>> >> on the list but she
>>>> >> >> >> > never said
>>>> >> >> >> > >> anything.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > she is
>>>> a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> wonderful person
>>>> >> but i think if she
>>>> >> >> >> > wanted to do
>>>> >> >> >> > >> anything
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > for
>>>> this
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > list or
>>>> >> international students, she
>>>> >> >> >> > would have
>>>> >> >> >> > >> said
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> something by now
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > or
>>>> before. but i
>>>> >> am not sure how to
>>>> >> >> >> > respond to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> this since
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > she
>>>> never
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > spoke
>>>> much in the
>>>> >> list and i know she
>>>> >> >> >> > was in the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> list since
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > she did
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> communicate with
>>>> >> me long time ago.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > so that
>>>> is my
>>>> >> question, does nfb
>>>> >> >> >> > officials want
>>>> >> >> >> > >> to get
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > involve
>>>> with
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > helping
>>>> >> internationals and people in
>>>> >> >> >> > under
>>>> >> >> >> > >> developed
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> countries? that
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > is
>>>> something i
>>>> >> can not answer and most
>>>> >> >> >> > nfb
>>>> >> >> >> > >> officials are
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > quiet on
>>>> this
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > list and
>>>> some
>>>> >> don't even respond.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > hina.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>>>> 8/2/10,
>>>> >> Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > Hi
>>>> Jan,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Good
>>>> >> observation.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Most of the
>>>> >> time the international
>>>> >> >> >> > people
>>>> >> >> >> > >> are the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> underserved as
>>>> >> they are
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > (we
>>>> are) not
>>>> >> included in or
>>>> >> >> >> > promoted other
>>>> >> >> >> > >> than being
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > a
>>>> member.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > If
>>>> we move
>>>> >> forward and become
>>>> >> >> >> > leaders other
>>>> >> >> >> > >> (majority)
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > do not
>>>> like it.
>>>> >> I
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> know it from
>>>> >> my personal
>>>> >> >> >> > experience.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > I
>>>> have to
>>>> >> thank the scholarship
>>>> >> >> >> > committee
>>>> >> >> >> > >> this year as
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > there
>>>> were many
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> >> international students who won the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> scholarships. If
>>>> we
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > could
>>>> have the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> students
>>>> >> participate and become
>>>> >> >> >> > leaders in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> their own
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> communities we
>>>> >> will not
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > be
>>>> >> underserved or impoverished.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Yasmin
>>>> >> Reyazuddin
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Aging &
>>>> >> Disability services
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Montgomery
>>>> >> County Government
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Department
>>>> >> of Health & human
>>>> >> >> >> > Services
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> 401
>>>> >> Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Rockville MD
>>>> >> 20850
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> 240-777-0311
>>>> >> (MC311)
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> 240-777-1556
>>>> >> (personal)
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> 240-777-1495
>>>> >> (fax)
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> office hours
>>>> >> 8:30 am 5:00 pm
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Languages
>>>> >> English, Hindi, Urdu,
>>>> >> >> >> > Braille
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> This message
>>>> >> may contain protected
>>>> >> >> >> > health
>>>> >> >> >> > >> information
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > or
>>>> other
>>>> >> information
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> that is
>>>> >> confidential or privileged.
>>>> >> >> >> > If you
>>>> >> >> >> > >> are not the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> intended
>>>> >> recipient,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> please
>>>> >> contact the sender by return
>>>> >> >> >> > mail and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> destroy
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > any
>>>> copies of
>>>> >> this
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> material.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>>>> Behalf Of jan
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> wright
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Sent:
>>>> >> Monday, August 02, 2010 3:52
>>>> >> >> >> > PM
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > To:
>>>> Blind
>>>> >> International Students
>>>> >> >> >> > Mailing
>>>> >> >> >> > >> List
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Subject:
>>>> >> Re:
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> [Blind-international-students]
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > Hi
>>>> Yasmin,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> That is an
>>>> >> interesting thought.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > I
>>>> know Ron
>>>> >> and I am sure that he
>>>> >> >> >> > would be
>>>> >> >> >> > >> open to the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > idea.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > My
>>>> only
>>>> >> question is:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Since
>>>> >> "underserved,"   has a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> broader
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> application than
>>>> >> "international
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> students,"
>>>> >> do you think that the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> international
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> community will be
>>>> >> ....
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> .... last to
>>>> >> receive support?
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Just a
>>>> >> question.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Honestly, I
>>>> >> am not certain, but it
>>>> >> >> >> > doesn't
>>>> >> >> >> > >> seem that
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > this
>>>> group is
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> getting much
>>>> >> notice in the NFB, as
>>>> >> >> >> > it is.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Anmol had
>>>> >> some great ideas!
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > We
>>>> should
>>>> >> not let them pass as
>>>> >> >> >> > ideas only.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> Jan
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > On
>>>> 8/2/10,
>>>> >> hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>> what is
>>>> >> the goal of that group
>>>> >> >> >> > yasmin?
>>>> >> >> >> > >> we can do
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > it but i
>>>> would
>>>> >> like
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>> to know
>>>> >> more about that group
>>>> >> >> >> > first. and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> then you
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > can send
>>>> the
>>>> >> email.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>> how is
>>>> >> it going to help us in
>>>> >> >> >> > starting a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> project
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > to help
>>>> people
>>>> >> in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>> under
>>>> >> developed countries?
>>>> >> >> >> > thanks.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> hina.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>> On
>>>> >> 8/2/10, Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>> <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>> Hi
>>>> >> Hena, and all:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>> I
>>>> >> will suggest that we
>>>> >> >> >> > consider
>>>> >> >> >> > >> combining two
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > groups
>>>> into one
>>>> >> and getting
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>> what
>>>> >> we need. The cultural
>>>> >> >> >> > exchange
>>>> >> >> >> > >> group
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > should
>>>> join
>>>> >> forces with the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> committee to empower
>>>> >> >> >> > underserved
>>>> >> >> >> > >> population.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>> The
>>>> >> goals are similar and
>>>> >> >> >> > then we
>>>> >> >> >> > >> will also
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > have the
>>>> support
>>>> >> of the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> national
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> office. I can start the
>>>> >> >> >> > process by
>>>> >> >> >> > >> sending an
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > email to
>>>> Ron
>>>> >> Brown who is
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>> the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> president of Indiana.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>> We
>>>> >> have a meeting every
>>>> >> >> >> > year and can
>>>> >> >> >> > >> do more
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > that
>>>> way.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Yasmin Reyazuddin
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Aging & Disability
>>>> >> >> >> > services
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Montgomery County
>>>> >> >> >> > Government
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Department of Health &
>>>> >> >> >> > human
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Services
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>> 401
>>>> >> Hungerford Drive (3rd
>>>> >> >> >> > floor)
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Rockville MD 20850
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> 240-777-0311 (MC311)
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> 240-777-1556 (personal)
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> 240-777-1495 (fax)
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> office hours 8:30 am 5:00
>>>> >> >> >> > pm
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Languages English, Hindi,
>>>> >> >> >> > Urdu,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Braille
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>> This
>>>> >> message may contain
>>>> >> >> >> > protected
>>>> >> >> >> > >> health
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> information or
>>>> >> other
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> information
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>> that
>>>> >> is confidential or
>>>> >> >> >> > privileged.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> If you are
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > not the
>>>> intended
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> recipient,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> please contact the sender
>>>> >> >> >> > by return
>>>> >> >> >> > >> mail and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > destroy
>>>> any
>>>> >> copies of this
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> material.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Thank you.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> hina
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> altaf
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Sent: Monday, August 02,
>>>> >> >> >> > 2010 1:38
>>>> >> >> >> > >> PM
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>> To:
>>>> >> Blind International
>>>> >> >> >> > Students
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Mailing List
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Subject: Re:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> [Blind-international-students][Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>> hi
>>>> >> anmol,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>  i agree with you and
>>>> >> >> >> > that's
>>>> >> >> >> > >> what we
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > tried
>>>> last year
>>>> >> without much
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> success. i think on this
>>>> >> >> >> > issue i
>>>> >> >> >> > >> need to talk
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > to you
>>>> either on
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> phone or online. there are
>>>> >> >> >> > a lot of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> issues and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > things
>>>> that i
>>>> >> don't
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>> feel
>>>> >> comfortable discussing
>>>> >> >> >> > on nfb
>>>> >> >> >> > >> mailing
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > list due
>>>> to some
>>>> >> reasons
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> which i think we can talk
>>>> >> >> >> > off list.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> hina.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>> On
>>>> >> 8/2/10, Anmol Bhatia
>>>> >> >> >> > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> Hello Jan and Hina,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> Due to reasons which I
>>>> >> >> >> > do not
>>>> >> >> >> > >> want to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > mention
>>>> on the
>>>> >> list I do not think
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> our
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> list would get much
>>>> >> >> >> > >> advertisement from
>>>> the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > NFB
>>>> officials. So
>>>> >> this means
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> that
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> more then likely we
>>>> >> >> >> > will have to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> self
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> advertise.
>>>> >> Personally I have been
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> advertising through
>>>> >> >> >> > word of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> mouth telling
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > my
>>>> friends or
>>>> >> anyone who may
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> be
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> interested in joining
>>>> >> >> >> > or is
>>>> >> >> >> > >> interested in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> international
>>>> >> issues. Also
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> maybe
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> someone can write a
>>>> >> >> >> > article for
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Mobility
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> International USA
>>>> >> (MIUSA)
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> www.miusa.org
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> and it would be
>>>> >> >> >> > published on
>>>> >> >> >> > >> their
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > webcite.
>>>> It is a
>>>> >> non-profit
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> organization
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> which works on
>>>> >> >> >> > international
>>>> >> >> >> > >> development
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > for
>>>> people with
>>>> >> disabilities in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> other countries and
>>>> >> >> >> > also
>>>> >> >> >> > >> promotes
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> international
>>>> >> travel for individuals
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> with
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> disabilities. Some
>>>> >> >> >> > things they
>>>> >> >> >> > >> do is to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > promote
>>>> study
>>>> >> abroad
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> opportunities
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> for students with
>>>> >> >> >> > disabilities
>>>> >> >> >> > >> and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> leadership
>>>> >> trainings for individuals
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> with
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> disabilities. I would
>>>> >> >> >> > encourage
>>>> >> >> >> > >> you to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > visit
>>>> their
>>>> >> webcite and maybe
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> sign
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> up
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> for their news letter.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> Also we may want to
>>>> >> >> >> > consider
>>>> >> >> >> > >> sending a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > blerb to
>>>> various
>>>> >> list serves that
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> we
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> are on to let people
>>>> >> >> >> > know that
>>>> >> >> >> > >> there is a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > list
>>>> serve for
>>>> >> international
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> students and for anyone
>>>> >> >> >> > who
>>>> >> >> >> > >> wants to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> communicate with
>>>> >> international
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> students
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> or is interested in
>>>> >> >> >> > learning
>>>> >> >> >> > >> about study
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > abroad
>>>> or
>>>> >> volunteer
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> opportunities
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> abroad. Also someone
>>>> >> >> >> > could write
>>>> >> >> >> > >> a article
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > for the
>>>> Student
>>>> >> Slate (a news
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> letter sponsored by the
>>>> >> >> >> > NABS "a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> student
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > chapter
>>>> of the
>>>> >> NFB") September
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> issue. I would
>>>> >> >> >> > volunteer to do
>>>> >> >> >> > >> this but I
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > am
>>>> already
>>>> >> writing couple of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> articles so it may be a
>>>> >> >> >> > bit to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> much.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> The list is on the NFB
>>>> >> >> >> > >> discussion list.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Infact
>>>> >> thats how I learned
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> about
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> it, but most people do
>>>> >> >> >> > not think
>>>> >> >> >> > >> about
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > going to
>>>> the
>>>> >> discussion list page
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> therefore are not aware
>>>> >> >> >> > of it.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> Also I think having
>>>> >> >> >> > regular
>>>> >> >> >> > >> conference
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > calls
>>>> and some
>>>> >> fun activities
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> will
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> help generate interest
>>>> >> >> >> > in the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> group.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> Just some thoughts.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> Anmol
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> I seldom think about
>>>> >> >> >> > my
>>>> >> >> >> > >> limitations, and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > they
>>>> never make
>>>> >> me sad. Perhaps
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> there is just a touch
>>>> >> >> >> > of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> yearning at
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > times;
>>>> but it is
>>>> >> vague, like a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> breeze
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> among flowers.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> Hellen Keller
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> --- On Mon, 8/2/10,
>>>> >> >> >> > hina altaf
>>>> >> >> >> > >> <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> From: hina altaf
>>>> >> >> >> > <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> [Blind-international-students]
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> To: "Blind
>>>> >> >> >> > International
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Students
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Mailing
>>>> List"
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> Date: Monday,
>>>> >> >> >> > August 2,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> 2010, 12:03
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > PM
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> i contacted Diane
>>>> >> >> >> > >> McGeorge  last
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> year as well about
>>>> >> >> >> > our group
>>>> >> >> >> > >> but
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> never got any
>>>> >> >> >> > reply. well
>>>> >> >> >> > >> where do you
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > want to
>>>> >> advertise
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> the group?
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> last year i and
>>>> >> >> >> > philip got
>>>> >> >> >> > >> an offer to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > do a
>>>> radio show
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> about our group
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> but we did not do
>>>> >> >> >> > due to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> some reason
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > that we
>>>> discussed
>>>> >> off
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> list. but
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> that is something
>>>> >> >> >> > we could
>>>> >> >> >> > >> still
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> consider. hina.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> On 8/2/10, jan
>>>> >> >> >> > wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > Hi Anmol,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > Tell us about
>>>> >> >> >> > the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> conference in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > DC.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > That sounds
>>>> >> >> >> > >> interesting.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > Yes, I forgot
>>>> >> >> >> > about the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> world
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Blind
>>>> Union.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > I went to
>>>> >> >> >> > their site in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> hopes to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > join:
>>>> but I am
>>>> >> not
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> part of an
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > organization
>>>> >> >> >> > and I
>>>> >> >> >> > >> think that you
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > have to
>>>> have lots
>>>> >> of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> money to join.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > Or, you have
>>>> >> >> >> > to be part
>>>> >> >> >> > >> of a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> blindness
>>>> >> organization.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > Well, Anmol, I
>>>> >> >> >> > forgot
>>>> >> >> >> > >> about the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > blind
>>>> corps
>>>> >> also.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > I found this
>>>> >> >> >> > quite
>>>> >> >> >> > >> interesting.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > I'd like to
>>>> >> >> >> > know more
>>>> >> >> >> > >> about it
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > and if
>>>> we could
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> contribute in some
>>>> >> >> >> > type of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > way.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > Yes, I would
>>>> >> >> >> > be willing
>>>> >> >> >> > >> to hear
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > this
>>>> woman speak
>>>> >> on a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> conference call.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > I have a
>>>> >> >> >> > meeting on
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Tuesday, but
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > the
>>>> other days
>>>> >> are
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> free for me.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > I have emailed
>>>> >> >> >> > Diane
>>>> >> >> >> > >> McGeorge
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > about
>>>> this group
>>>> >> and she
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> has not gotten
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > back with me.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > So, I guess we
>>>> >> >> >> > will
>>>> >> >> >> > >> have to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> advertise
>>>> >> ourselves.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > If we can get
>>>> >> >> >> > a good
>>>> >> >> >> > >> description
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > about
>>>> our group
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> together,  then
>>>> >> >> >> > we
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > can send it to
>>>> >> >> >> > our
>>>> >> >> >> > >> divisions and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > state
>>>> presidents
>>>> >> for
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> them to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > distribute.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > Hey, Hina, you
>>>> >> >> >> > are
>>>> >> >> >> > >> moderator of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > the
>>>> group:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > What do you
>>>> >> >> >> > think?
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > I don't know,
>>>> >> >> >> > any
>>>> >> >> >> > >> thoughts?
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> > On 8/2/10,
>>>> >> >> >> > Imran Ahmed
>>>> >> >> >> > >> <imran.altaf at gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >> What
>>>> >> >> >> > platform are
>>>> >> >> >> > >> you using
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > to host
>>>> the
>>>> >> conference
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> calls? Please
>>>> >> >> >> > share
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >> the
>>>> >> >> >> > necessary
>>>> >> >> >> > >> details so that
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > all who
>>>> are
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> interested, can
>>>> >> >> >> > participate
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >> in the
>>>> >> >> >> > conference
>>>> >> >> >> > >> call.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >> Imran.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 8/2/10,
>>>> >> >> >> > hina
>>>> >> >> >> > >> altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> hi
>>>> >> >> >> > anmol,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>  yes
>>>> >> >> >> > that
>>>> >> >> >> > >> is great idea
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > to
>>>> involve more
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> people an d
>>>> >> >> >> > organizations
>>>> >> >> >> > >> who
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> might
>>>> >> >> >> > be
>>>> >> >> >> > >> interested to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > help
>>>> people from
>>>> >> under
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> developed
>>>> >> >> >> > countries.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> buna
>>>> >> >> >> > is also on
>>>> >> >> >> > >> the list,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > i met
>>>> her last
>>>> >> year
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> and she is a very
>>>> >> >> >> > nice
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> lady
>>>> >> >> >> > who is
>>>> >> >> >> > >> very
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> successfull in
>>>> >> overcoming
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> challenges that she
>>>> >> >> >> > had
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> being
>>>> >> >> >> > someone
>>>> >> >> >> > >> from under
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> developed
>>>> >> countries.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> how did your
>>>> >> >> >> > conference
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> go? i
>>>> >> >> >> > wish i
>>>> >> >> >> > >> could have
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > been
>>>> able to make
>>>> >> it
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> but due to some
>>>> >> >> >> > issues i
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> was
>>>> >> >> >> > not able to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> attend
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > although
>>>> i
>>>> >> qualified.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> also i think we
>>>> >> >> >> > should
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> focuss
>>>> >> >> >> > on
>>>> >> >> >> > >> starting one
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > project
>>>> at a time
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> discuss first what
>>>> >> >> >> > we
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> want
>>>> >> >> >> > to do. but
>>>> >> >> >> > >> i will be
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> interested in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> conference call and
>>>> >> >> >> > if we
>>>> >> >> >> > >> can
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> get
>>>> >> >> >> > some ideas
>>>> >> >> >> > >> from the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > members
>>>> as well
>>>> >> as
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> from some people
>>>> >> >> >> > who are
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> > already serving
>>>> >> >> >> > >> under
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> developed
>>>> >> countries in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> some ways. thanks.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> hina
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>> On
>>>> >> >> >> > 8/1/10,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Anmol Bhatia
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > Hello Jan
>>>> >> >> >> > >> and all,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > Sorry it
>>>> >> >> >> > >> has taken me
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > a while
>>>> to
>>>> >> respond.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> I was in Washington
>>>> >> >> >> > D.C.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> last
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > week
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > for the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> National
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Council
>>>> on
>>>> >> Disability
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> Summit and got kind
>>>> >> >> >> > of busy
>>>> >> >> >> > >> since
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > returning.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > Jan you did
>>>> >> >> >> > >> pretty
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > good
>>>> job
>>>> >> summarizing
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> what happened at
>>>> >> >> >> > the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> meeting,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > but
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > you for got
>>>> >> >> >> > >> about the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > World
>>>> Blind
>>>> >> Union.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> Dr. Shroder (NFB's
>>>> >> >> >> > first
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> vice-president)
>>>> who
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > is
>>>> active in the
>>>> >> World
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> Blind Union told us
>>>> >> >> >> > about
>>>> >> >> >> > >> the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > World Blind
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Union and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > what it
>>>> does.
>>>> >> Also
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> Buna Dahal told us
>>>> >> >> >> > about
>>>> >> >> >> > >> her
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > experience
>>>> >> >> >> > >> about
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > growing
>>>> in Nepal
>>>> >> as the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> only person in her
>>>> >> >> >> > family
>>>> >> >> >> > >> who
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > is
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > blind and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> some of the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> challenges she
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> faced. She also
>>>> >> >> >> > told us
>>>> >> >> >> > >> about the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > Blind
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > Core (like
>>>> >> >> >> > >> the Peace
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Core)
>>>> except a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> organization which
>>>> >> >> >> > serves
>>>> >> >> >> > >> blind
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > people.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > Perhaps
>>>> >> >> >> > >> this can be
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > one of
>>>> our
>>>> >> adopted
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> project that we as
>>>> >> >> >> > a group
>>>> >> >> >> > >> of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > interested
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> Federationest who
>>>> >> are
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> interested in help
>>>> >> >> >> > blind
>>>> >> >> >> > >> kids in less
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > developed
>>>> >> >> >> > >> countries
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > can work
>>>> with.
>>>> >> Also
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> last week I met a
>>>> >> >> >> > lady who
>>>> >> >> >> > >> is
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > doing
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > some work
>>>> >> >> >> > >> in
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Ecuador
>>>> to train
>>>> >> and assist
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> the disabled
>>>> >> >> >> > population
>>>> >> >> >> > >> there.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>> I
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > am
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > thinking
>>>> >> >> >> > >> about
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > holding
>>>> a
>>>> >> conference call
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> next weekend so
>>>> >> >> >> > that the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> lady
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > who
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>> I
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > met can
>>>> >> >> >> > >> tell us about
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > her work
>>>> and
>>>> >> what
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> she does. If I held
>>>> >> >> >> > a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> conference
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > call would
>>>> >> >> >> > >> you
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> attend?
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > Also Jan I
>>>> >> >> >> > >> actually
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > thought
>>>> about
>>>> >> this
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> mailing list at the
>>>> >> >> >> > meeting,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> but
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>> be
>>>> >> >> >> > quit
>>>> >> >> >> > >> frank I felt
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > that I
>>>> was
>>>> >> hogging
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> the discussione so
>>>> >> >> >> > decided
>>>> >> >> >> > >> to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > keep
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>> my
>>>> >> >> >> > mouth
>>>> >> >> >> > >> shut. But I
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > wish I
>>>> would
>>>> >> have
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> said something or
>>>> >> >> >> > atleast
>>>> >> >> >> > >> got
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > everyone's
>>>> >> >> >> > >> email
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > address
>>>> so that
>>>> >> we could
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> have formed some
>>>> >> >> >> > sort of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> communication.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > Anmol
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>> I
>>>> >> >> >> > seldom
>>>> >> >> >> > >> think about
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > my
>>>> limitations,
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> they never make me
>>>> >> >> >> > sad.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Perhaps
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > there is
>>>> >> >> >> > >> just a touch
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > of
>>>> yearning at
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> times; but it is
>>>> >> >> >> > vague, like
>>>> >> >> >> > >> a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > breeze
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > among
>>>> >> >> >> > >> flowers.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > Hellen
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Keller
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > --- On Sat,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> 7/24/10,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > jan
>>>> wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> From:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> jan wright
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Subject: Re:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> [Blind-international-students]
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> To:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> "Blind
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> International
>>>> >> Students
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> Mailing List"
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> Date:
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Saturday,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > July 24,
>>>> 2010,
>>>> >> 6:43
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> PM
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> Hi
>>>> >> >> >> > >> All,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> I
>>>> will
>>>> >> >> >> > >> give a
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > summary
>>>> of what
>>>> >> went on
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> during the meeting
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> (as
>>>> it
>>>> >> >> >> > >> refers
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> to
>>>> this
>>>> >> >> >> > >> list or
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > things
>>>> that we
>>>> >> can do
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> on our own).
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>>>> Please,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Anmol,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > chime in
>>>> if I
>>>> >> either
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> forget something
>>>> >> >> >> > or
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> present
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> something
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> incorrectly.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> We
>>>> >> >> >> > >> discussed
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > making
>>>> books
>>>> >> more
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> accessible for
>>>> >> >> >> > those who do
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> not
>>>> >> >> >> > >> live in the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > USA.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> We
>>>> all
>>>> >> >> >> > >> know about
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > the
>>>> strict laws
>>>> >> of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> the Library of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Congress and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > NLS.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> There
>>>> >> >> >> > >> was some
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> discussion about
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> library in
>>>> >> >> >> > Australia
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> and
>>>> how
>>>> >> >> >> > >> they
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> were
>>>> >> >> >> > >> trying to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > help
>>>> others have
>>>> >> access
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> to both braille
>>>> >> >> >> > (at
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> least
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> technical
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > braille)
>>>> and
>>>> >> audio books.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> But,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> there were
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > no
>>>> suggestions as
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> how we might
>>>> >> >> >> > assist
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> process.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> We
>>>> >> >> >> > >> talked about
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > sending
>>>> items
>>>> >> abroad.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> Some
>>>> >> >> >> > >> people
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > wanted
>>>> to have a
>>>> >> drive to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> collect equipment
>>>> >> >> >> > or
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> products
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> for
>>>> the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> blind and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > send
>>>> them to
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> developing
>>>> >> >> >> > countries.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> There
>>>> >> >> >> > >> was some
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> discussion about
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> postal fees.
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>>>> >> >> >> > if
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>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
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>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
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>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > could be
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>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
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>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> July 23, 2010, 7:16
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>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>> >> >>>>> July 23, 2010 6:59
>>>> >> >> >> > PM
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