[Blind-international-students] introducing myself andcommentsonyour discussion

[jan wright]

Hi Hina,
no need for any setup.
You just pick a number for our passcode.
Something that we might all remember or something.
then, we call the
218-936-1200
and when it says put n your passcode,
we put in that number and we are in the conference.
Only the members will know the number, so no strange person can join.
Jan


On 8/5/10, hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com> wrote:
> hi jan, i will set it up this evening. thanks. hina.
>
> On 8/5/10, jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Anmol,
>> are you talking about the number:
>> 218-936-1200
>> The "Parents of Blind Children," have used this line.
>> So has many other groups.
>> I know that it is not a 1800 (tole free) number.
>> But, if people have skype or cell phones, it should not be a problem.
>> Someone -- not me, will have to set up a passcode
>> so that we all are in the same conference room.
>> But, if someone knows of a better place, let us know.
>> Jan
>>
>> On 8/5/10, hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hi anmol,
>>> yes i will work on that this weekend. but everyone please give me your
>>> thoughts on what should we include? it seems jan is pretty good  at
>>> summarizing the important points, so jan please give your thoughts on
>>> the add and i will work on it. thanks everyone. hina.
>>>
>>> On 8/5/10, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I agree. There is a free conference call service that my friend told me
>>>> about but I failed to write down the number he gave me. I will check
>>>> into
>>>> it
>>>> and let everyone know. The chat line I don't think will be appropreate
>>>> for
>>>> this situation since it is more of a social chat line and may drive
>>>> people
>>>> away. So for situation like this we need something a little more formal.
>>>> So
>>>> how about we have a social get to know you conference this weekend? How
>>>> many
>>>> of us can attend if it is this weekend? Let me know. Also Hina do you
>>>> want
>>>> to write a one page add for this group to put in the Student Slate (the
>>>> newletter sent out by NABS)?
>>>> Anmol
>>>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
>>>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a
>>>> breeze
>>>> among flowers.
>>>> Hellen Keller
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Thu, 8/5/10, hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>>>>> andcommentsonyour discussion
>>>>> To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
>>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 3:16 PM
>>>>> anmol i think first meeting should be
>>>>> just social get together on the
>>>>> conference. a lot  of us only know each other through
>>>>> emails and never
>>>>> spoke to one another directly. i think we should first have
>>>>> a social
>>>>> meeting  so  everyone is  introduced
>>>>> to   each other. do we have a
>>>>> free number that we could use to host our conference anmol?
>>>>> the chat
>>>>> line you once gave me, maybe there but i don't want any
>>>>> other
>>>>> intruptions. it should be just our blind international
>>>>> group and our
>>>>> speakers. but in this first one we should just meet one
>>>>> another rather
>>>>> then starting it too formal. some people are still new and
>>>>> need to be
>>>>> comfortable with each other.
>>>>> hina.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/5/10, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hello Jan,
>>>>> > Great points! I would like to do it this weekend but
>>>>> maybe to much of a
>>>>> > short notice.
>>>>> > My thinking was to ask a person who I met during my
>>>>> trip to Washington and
>>>>> > see if she would do a presentation the project she is
>>>>> doing on international
>>>>> > development for people with  disabilities. Maybe
>>>>> let her speak for about
>>>>> > half-hour, take questions for about 15 minutes and
>>>>> then we can move to
>>>>> > discussion for 15 minutes or how ever long people want
>>>>> to stay on. We could
>>>>> > start with some of the points but the conference calls
>>>>> will have to be on
>>>>> > going. At some point maybe if anyone knows of a
>>>>> immigration lawyer who would
>>>>> > be willing to do some free consoltation maybe that
>>>>> could be one of our guest
>>>>> > speak. I would personally like this and alot of
>>>>> international students could
>>>>> > benefit from this. I suggest that Hina as one of the
>>>>> list moderators be our
>>>>> > leader for this conference calls until we can figure
>>>>> out the leadership
>>>>> > structure. Any thoughts?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Anmol
>>>>> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
>>>>> make me sad. Perhaps
>>>>> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
>>>>> vague, like a breeze
>>>>> > among flowers.
>>>>> > Hellen Keller
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --- On Thu, 8/5/10, jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> From: jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
>>>>> introducing myself
>>>>> >> andcommentsonyour discussion
>>>>> >> To: "Blind International Students Mailing List"
>>>>> >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> >> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 1:14 PM
>>>>> >>  Hi All,
>>>>> >> So, are we scheduling a conference call?
>>>>> >> What shall be our agenda?
>>>>> >> ... not necessarily in this order....
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 1. Hina and Anmol have mentioned the astronomical
>>>>> >> expense  of an
>>>>> >> international student. Is there something that we
>>>>> can do
>>>>> >> about it?
>>>>> >> 2. Imran has mentioned the need for some type of
>>>>> reach/out
>>>>> >> and support
>>>>> >> for international students. How can we find
>>>>> international
>>>>> >> students? Is
>>>>> >> there a way that we can be informed when they
>>>>> arrive so
>>>>> >> that we can
>>>>> >> offer a network of ....  "mentors" if you will?
>>>>> As
>>>>> >> well as finding a
>>>>> >> way to give them all the information that they
>>>>> might need
>>>>> >> both about
>>>>> >> blindness and their unique status as
>>>>> international
>>>>> >> students.
>>>>> >>    3. How can we respond to those blind
>>>>> >> people who are not in America?
>>>>> >> Should we try to implement projects collectively
>>>>> or
>>>>> >> individually? If
>>>>> >> we don't work with agencies that are already
>>>>> structured,
>>>>> >> then we will
>>>>> >> need to find individuals as our liasons.
>>>>> >> 5. Should we have a division of the NFB? (We have
>>>>> enough
>>>>> >> members). We
>>>>> >> could write a constitution and elect officers.
>>>>> Or,
>>>>> >> Should we form a
>>>>> >> formal organization independent of the nfb?
>>>>> Discussion
>>>>> >> about pros and
>>>>> >> cons of affiliating with NFB or other
>>>>> organization. What
>>>>> >> about Anmol's
>>>>> >> org MIUSA? What about American Foundation or
>>>>> ......
>>>>> >> others?
>>>>> >> 6. Should we form a formal statement of goals,
>>>>> guidelines
>>>>> >> or anything else?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 8/4/10, Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >> > yes, i do understand. but still we need to be
>>>>> careful
>>>>> >> dear friend.
>>>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >> > From: "Carly Mihalakis" <carlymih at earthlink.net>
>>>>> >> > To: "Blind International Students Mailing
>>>>> List"
>>>>> >> > <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 6:09 PM
>>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [Blind-international-students]
>>>>> >> introducing myself
>>>>> >> > andcommentsonyour discussion
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Hi, Heena,
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >          I do not feel my
>>>>> >> reference to a "son of a bitch" was used in
>>>>> >> > a way that was gratuitous, but an accurate
>>>>> albeit
>>>>> >> colorful
>>>>> >> > description of the Obama aproach approach of
>>>>> ruling
>>>>> >> this fair land.
>>>>> >> > Examine the context please, Heena.
>>>>> >> > C.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > Not just a single war in Iraq but
>>>>> can't you
>>>>> >> hear the war drums
>>>>> >> >> > beating from Afghanistan, Pakistan
>>>>> and North
>>>>> >> Korea all awaiting US
>>>>> >> >> > invasion, for the crime of
>>>>> nonconformance to
>>>>> >> American values?
>>>>> >> >> > It seems, Obama would rather invest
>>>>> in taking
>>>>> >> life away, and
>>>>> >> >> > destroying perfectly viable
>>>>> infrastructure
>>>>> >> than to actually channel
>>>>> >> >> > resources for the long term health
>>>>> care
>>>>> >> of People.
>>>>> >> >> > He's an ever calculating son of a
>>>>> bitch, and
>>>>> >> nobody better start
>>>>> >> >> > accusing me of being a racist or any
>>>>> such
>>>>> >> slander because   Obama
>>>>> >> >> > keeps as far away from Black affairs
>>>>> as
>>>>> >> possible, even if it means
>>>>> >> >> > throwing prominent Black figures
>>>>> under
>>>>> >> that bus.
>>>>> >> >> > Car
>>>>> >> >> >>The cost to the USA
>>>>> infrastructure of
>>>>> >> having a war in Iraq is also
>>>>> >> >> >>bloody
>>>>> >> >> >>prohibitive, doesn't seem to stop
>>>>> our
>>>>> >> leaders from doing so.
>>>>> >> >> >>It's perhaps a question of
>>>>> priorities.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>Dan W.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>>>>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> >> On Behalf Of
>>>>> >> >> >>Guido
>>>>> >> >> >>Corona
>>>>> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
>>>>> 10:55 AM
>>>>> >> >> >>To: 'Blind International Students
>>>>> Mailing
>>>>> >> List'
>>>>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>>>>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducingmyself
>>>>> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>Dan, not quite sure if this has
>>>>> been
>>>>> >> mentioned, but the current cost of
>>>>> >> >> >>a
>>>>> >> >> >>money identifier is $99, not $300
>>>>> as
>>>>> >> suggested.  ... See below.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>As for changing to a multi-size
>>>>> bill
>>>>> >> system,  it simply will not happen.
>>>>> >> >> >>The cost to the USA
>>>>> infrastructure would
>>>>> >> be prohibitive if the rationale
>>>>> >> >> >>remains purely an accessibility
>>>>> >> standpoint, for which there is a
>>>>> >> >> >>multiplicity of
>>>>> workarounds/alternatives.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>* * * *
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> >From the Braille Monitor for
>>>>> December
>>>>> >> 2009 at:
>>>>> >> >> >>http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm09/bm0911/bm091118.htm
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>New Money Identifier Available:
>>>>> >> >> >>We received the following press
>>>>> release
>>>>> >> describing a new money
>>>>> >> >> >>identifier
>>>>> >> >> >>now available in the United
>>>>> States. Here,
>>>>> >> in part, is the text of this
>>>>> >> >> >>announcement:
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>Orbit Research has announced the
>>>>> >> introduction of the iBill, the world's
>>>>> >> >> >>first affordable talking
>>>>> banknote
>>>>> >> identifier for the blind and
>>>>> >> >> >>vision-impaired.
>>>>> >> >> >>Priced at $99, the 1.5 ounce
>>>>> pager-sized
>>>>> >> iBill represents a breakthrough
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>in
>>>>> >> >> >>enabling blind and vision
>>>>> impaired people
>>>>> >> to achieve independence in the
>>>>> >> >> >>everyday
>>>>> >> >> >>necessity of using paper
>>>>> currency. At
>>>>> >> about a third of the cost of
>>>>> >> >> >>existing
>>>>> >> >> >>devices, the iBill offers
>>>>> unrivaled
>>>>> >> features, ease of use, and accuracy
>>>>> >> >> >>of
>>>>> >> >> >>identification.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>The iBill is an exceptionally
>>>>> convenient
>>>>> >> and affordable solution that
>>>>> >> >> >>blind
>>>>> >> >> >>and vision-impaired people can
>>>>> use.
>>>>> >> Measuring just 3 inches by 1.6
>>>>> >> >> >>inches
>>>>> >> >> >> by
>>>>> >> >> >>0.7 inches, the ultra-slim and
>>>>> compact
>>>>> >> key-fob design provides the
>>>>> >> >> >>ultimate
>>>>> >> >> >>in convenience, allowing it to be
>>>>> carried
>>>>> >> unobtrusively in a pocket or
>>>>> >> >> >>purse,
>>>>> >> >> >>clipped to a belt, or attached to
>>>>> a
>>>>> >> keychain or lanyard. Among the
>>>>> >> >> >>features
>>>>> >> >> >>that set it apart from other such
>>>>> devices
>>>>> >> are its high accuracy (better
>>>>> >> >> >> than
>>>>> >> >> >>99.9 percent) and the
>>>>> near-instantaneous
>>>>> >> speed (less than one second in
>>>>> >> >> >> most
>>>>> >> >> >>cases) with which it identifies
>>>>> >> banknotes.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>The iBill provides the simplest,
>>>>> fastest,
>>>>> >> and most accurate means to
>>>>> >> >> >>identify U.S. banknotes. Its
>>>>> unique
>>>>> >> ergonomic design permits easy and
>>>>> >> >> >>intuitive use
>>>>> >> >> >>without training or practice.
>>>>> When a
>>>>> >> banknote is inserted into the
>>>>> >> >> >>device,
>>>>> >> >> >>its denomination is identified at
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> press of a button. Based on the
>>>>> >> >> >> user's
>>>>> >> >> >>preference, the denomination is
>>>>> announced
>>>>> >> by a clear and natural voice
>>>>> >> >> >>or
>>>>> >> >> >> by
>>>>> >> >> >>tone or vibration for privacy.
>>>>> The unit
>>>>> >> identifies all U.S. banknotes in
>>>>> >> >> >>circulation
>>>>> >> >> >>and recognizes them in any
>>>>> orientation.
>>>>> >> Banknotes in poor physical
>>>>> >> >> >> condition
>>>>> >> >> >>are indicated as unidentifiable
>>>>> and are
>>>>> >> not misread. The unit is also
>>>>> >> >> >>upgradeable
>>>>> >> >> >>to recognize new banknote
>>>>> designs.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>The iBill achieves all of this
>>>>> while
>>>>> >> operating on a single, commonly
>>>>> >> >> >>available AAA battery, which
>>>>> lasts for
>>>>> >> over a year with typical use. Its
>>>>> >> >> >>durable construction
>>>>> >> >> >>and sealed design ensure
>>>>> trouble-free use.
>>>>> >> The unit is backed by a
>>>>> >> >> >>one-year
>>>>> >> >> >>warranty from Orbit Research,
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> toll-free customer support is
>>>>> >> >> >>available.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>For further information contact
>>>>> Orbit
>>>>> >> Research, 3422 Old Capitol Trail,
>>>>> >> >> >>Suite 585, Wilmington, DE 19808;
>>>>> (888)
>>>>> >> 606-7248;
>>>>> >> >> >><http://www.orbitresearch.com>.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>Guido D. Corona
>>>>> >> >> >>Email: guidoc at austin.rr.com
>>>>> >> >> >>Home office: (512) 996-9187
>>>>> >> >> >>Mobile: (512) 466-1322
>>>>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>>>>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> >> On Behalf Of
>>>>> >> >> >>Dan
>>>>> >> >> >>Weiner
>>>>> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
>>>>> 9:17 AM
>>>>> >> >> >>To: 'Blind International Students
>>>>> Mailing
>>>>> >> List'
>>>>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>>>>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>>>>> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>Wait, the NFB, our NFB which
>>>>> claims that
>>>>> >> any adaptation to money would
>>>>> >> >> >> cause
>>>>> >> >> >>the sighted to think less of our
>>>>> ability
>>>>> >> to handle money, this NFB now
>>>>> >> >> >> wants
>>>>> >> >> >>to study tactile identification
>>>>> for
>>>>> >> money?
>>>>> >> >> >>Why do that, blindness is
>>>>> reduced, with
>>>>> >> proper training and tecnique, to
>>>>> >> >> >> the
>>>>> >> >> >>level of a nuisance.
>>>>> >> >> >>Just because we have to ask
>>>>> people what
>>>>> >> our money is and someone could
>>>>> >> >> >>give
>>>>> >> >> >>us a load of bull shit  and tell
>>>>> us
>>>>> >> it's a five when it's a ten, doesn't
>>>>> >> >> >>mean we should do anything about
>>>>> it.
>>>>> >> >> >>The proceeding was sarcasm for
>>>>> those who
>>>>> >> didn't guess--smile.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>Most of the countries I have
>>>>> visited
>>>>> >> have paper money of different
>>>>> >> >> >>sizes
>>>>> >> >> >>and not too many people in these
>>>>> countries
>>>>> >> use our folding method of
>>>>> >> >> >>money
>>>>> >> >> >>identifying.
>>>>> >> >> >>The Japanese actually told me
>>>>> bluntly it
>>>>> >> sounded weird--smile.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>A money identifyer, to quote our
>>>>> friend
>>>>> >> Carlie, is a bunch of crap, or
>>>>> >> >> >>something like that.
>>>>> >> >> >>Many aren't reliable and they
>>>>> cost money.
>>>>> >> >> >>At $300.00 for the Note Teller,
>>>>> that means
>>>>> >> a person getting six hundred
>>>>> >> >> >>dollars social security wouldn't
>>>>> be able
>>>>> >> to eat that month.
>>>>> >> >> >>Now, granted there are other
>>>>> models, but I
>>>>> >> haven't tried them yet.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>Speaking of Carlie, I sincerely
>>>>> apologize
>>>>> >> for not being in touch, I
>>>>> >> >> >>don't
>>>>> >> >> >>know what I did with your Email
>>>>> in which
>>>>> >> you sent me contact info, so
>>>>> >> >> >> please
>>>>> >> >> >>write me again at:
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>I think our Federation is
>>>>> somewhat
>>>>> >> selective on the projects we take on.
>>>>> >> >> >>If we don't want to take it on,
>>>>> then our
>>>>> >> leaders say it's not necessary
>>>>> >> >> >>rather than  saying we just
>>>>> don't
>>>>> >> have the time or inclination to deal
>>>>> >> >> >>with
>>>>> >> >> >>it.
>>>>> >> >> >>I'm pretty sick of the organized
>>>>> blind
>>>>> >> movement as far as things like
>>>>> >> >> >>that
>>>>> >> >> >>are concerned, both ACB and NFB.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>Cordially,
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>Dan W.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>>>>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> >> On Behalf Of
>>>>> >> >> >>Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>>>>> >> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
>>>>> 8:30 AM
>>>>> >> >> >>To: Blind International Students
>>>>> Mailing
>>>>> >> List
>>>>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>>>>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>>>>> >> >> >>andcommentsonyour discussion
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>Hi Anmol, and others
>>>>> >> >> >>I just read many of the emails
>>>>> about the
>>>>> >> blind international division
>>>>> >> >> >>and
>>>>> >> >> >>the issue about money identifier.
>>>>> I would
>>>>> >> like to say this much about
>>>>> >> >> >> money.
>>>>> >> >> >>The NFB has been working for the
>>>>> last two
>>>>> >> years to get some kind of
>>>>> >> >> >>tactile
>>>>> >> >> >>identification system on the
>>>>> paper bills.
>>>>> >> Some of us who are totally
>>>>> >> >> >>blind
>>>>> >> >> >>are participating in a study. We
>>>>> may have
>>>>> >> the results by next year.
>>>>> >> >> >>The second issue some have
>>>>> brought up is
>>>>> >> being independent. There is a
>>>>> >> >> >>wonderful speech by Dr. Jernigan,
>>>>> "The
>>>>> >> Nature of Independence" It is
>>>>> >> >> >>available on the NFB website. I
>>>>> suggest
>>>>> >> that you read it. Asking for
>>>>> >> >> >>help
>>>>> >> >> >> is
>>>>> >> >> >>not new. Even sighted people ask
>>>>> for it.
>>>>> >> >> >>I will say that a division will
>>>>> be good. I
>>>>> >> think that committee meetings
>>>>> >> >> >>have happened enough.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>Yasmin Reyazuddin
>>>>> >> >> >>Aging & Disability services
>>>>> >> >> >>Montgomery County Government
>>>>> >> >> >>Department of Health & human
>>>>> Services
>>>>> >> >> >>401 Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
>>>>> >> >> >>Rockville MD 20850
>>>>> >> >> >>240-777-0311 (MC311)
>>>>> >> >> >>240-777-1556 (personal)
>>>>> >> >> >>240-777-1495 (fax)
>>>>> >> >> >>office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
>>>>> >> >> >>Languages English, Hindi, Urdu,
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>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>This message may contain
>>>>> protected health
>>>>> >> information or other
>>>>> >> >> >>information
>>>>> >> >> >>that is confidential or
>>>>> privileged. If you
>>>>> >> are not the intended
>>>>> >> >> >>recipient,
>>>>> >> >> >>please contact the sender by
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>>>>> >> and destroy any copies of this
>>>>> >> >> >>material.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>Thank you.
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>>>>> >> >> >>From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> >> >> >>[mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> >> On Behalf Of
>>>>> >> >> >>Anmol
>>>>> >> >> >>Bhatia
>>>>> >> >> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010
>>>>> 9:30 PM
>>>>> >> >> >>To: Blind International Students
>>>>> Mailing
>>>>> >> List
>>>>> >> >> >>Subject: Re:
>>>>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>>>>> >> >> >> andcommentson
>>>>> >> >> >>your discussion
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>Hello Reyazuddin,,
>>>>> >> >> >>The sad reality is that the same
>>>>> is true
>>>>> >> for the schools for the blind
>>>>> >> >> >>in
>>>>> >> >> >>the United States. The Arkansas
>>>>> School for
>>>>> >> the Blind was not the same
>>>>> >> >> >>when
>>>>> >> >> >> I
>>>>> >> >> >>graduated from there as it was
>>>>> when I
>>>>> >> started there. I often blind
>>>>> >> >> >>people
>>>>> >> >> >>that we are our own worst
>>>>> enemies. It is a
>>>>> >> pleg which has hit blind
>>>>> >> >> >>community, blind schools, blind
>>>>> >> organizations and professnals serving
>>>>> >> >> >>the
>>>>> >> >> >>blind community and we need a
>>>>> quick cure!
>>>>> >> lol
>>>>> >> >> >>However, our generation "our
>>>>> generation
>>>>> >> and beyound" can not let the
>>>>> >> >> >>same
>>>>> >> >> >>happen when we come in
>>>>> leadership
>>>>> >> positions. I am also from India and
>>>>> >> >> >> always
>>>>> >> >> >>like to meet other blind people
>>>>> from
>>>>> >> India.
>>>>> >> >> >>Anmol
>>>>> >> >> >>I seldom think about my
>>>>> limitations, and
>>>>> >> they never make me sad. Perhaps
>>>>> >> >> >>there is just a touch of yearning
>>>>> at
>>>>> >> times; but it is vague, like a
>>>>> >> >> >>breeze
>>>>> >> >> >>among flowers.
>>>>> >> >> >>Hellen Keller
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Reyazuddin,
>>>>> Yasmin
>>>>> >> >> >><Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > From: Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>>>>> >> >> >> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>>>>> >> >> >> > Subject: Re:
>>>>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing myself
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> >> >>commentson your discussion
>>>>> >> >> >> > To: "Blind International
>>>>> Students
>>>>> >> Mailing List"
>>>>> >> >> >><blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> >> >> >> > Date: Tuesday, August 3,
>>>>> 2010, 3:10
>>>>> >> PM
>>>>> >> >> >> > Hi Jan,
>>>>> >> >> >> > I like your idea. We all
>>>>> have to
>>>>> >> think about what is
>>>>> >> >> >> > important. For the group. I
>>>>> have not
>>>>> >> shared but here it is.
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > Last November I went to
>>>>> India, and
>>>>> >> visited my old school.
>>>>> >> >> >> > This used to be a very good
>>>>> school
>>>>> >> when I went there. We had
>>>>> >> >> >> > blind teachers and some
>>>>> sighted
>>>>> >> teachers. There were blind
>>>>> >> >> >> > people working in different
>>>>> jobs.
>>>>> >> >> >> > I found out that the school
>>>>> has gone
>>>>> >> down hill, meaning
>>>>> >> >> >> > there is no hope for the
>>>>> students.
>>>>> >> The school administration
>>>>> >> >> >> > does not serve the blind
>>>>> community.
>>>>> >> They serve their own
>>>>> >> >> >> > pockets. They have very few
>>>>> real
>>>>> >> teachers and the rest are
>>>>> >> >> >> > administration pets.
>>>>> >> >> >> > When I went there, the
>>>>> security
>>>>> >> guard told me that I was
>>>>> >> >> >> > not welcome. The school was
>>>>> closed
>>>>> >> and no staff was there. I
>>>>> >> >> >> > persisted and went in. I
>>>>> met some of
>>>>> >> my old teachers who
>>>>> >> >> >> > gave me the bad news. The
>>>>> school
>>>>> >> administration and the
>>>>> >> >> >> > teachers are fighting
>>>>> against each
>>>>> >> other. There are human
>>>>> >> >> >> > rights violations of all
>>>>> levels.
>>>>> >> >> >> > Blind graduates of the
>>>>> school are no
>>>>> >> longer able to go to
>>>>> >> >> >> > college and they can not
>>>>> get jobs.
>>>>> >> >> >> > Students at the school are
>>>>> not
>>>>> >> getting any assistance or
>>>>> >> >> >> > education. If you have a
>>>>> will you
>>>>> >> may get through but it is
>>>>> >> >> >> > very difficult.
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > I am sure that many others
>>>>> will have
>>>>> >> similar stories.
>>>>> >> >> >> > Right now I am mentoring a
>>>>> young
>>>>> >> blind man who lives in
>>>>> >> >> >> > India by email.
>>>>> >> >> >> > I am sorry if this is not
>>>>> the right
>>>>> >> forum for this
>>>>> >> >> >> > discussion.
>>>>> >> >> >> >
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>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >> >> >> > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> >> >> >> > [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> >> >> >> > On Behalf Of jan wright
>>>>> >> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03,
>>>>> 2010 3:40
>>>>> >> PM
>>>>> >> >> >> > To: Blind International
>>>>> Students
>>>>> >> Mailing List
>>>>> >> >> >> > Subject: Re:
>>>>> >> [Blind-international-students] introducing
>>>>> >> >> >> > myself and commentson your
>>>>> >> discussion
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >   Hi Jim, Yasmin and
>>>>> >> Anmol,
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > Anmol, I will ask:
>>>>> >> >> >> > What part of the Nfb
>>>>> philosophy do
>>>>> >> you find does not fit
>>>>> >> >> >> > into the
>>>>> >> >> >> > category of "positive."
>>>>> >> >> >> > In short, which part do you
>>>>> have a
>>>>> >> difficult time
>>>>> >> >> >> > supporting?
>>>>> >> >> >> > We all -- well most of us,
>>>>> have
>>>>> >> certain things that we are
>>>>> >> >> >> > passionate
>>>>> >> >> >> > about within the NFB and
>>>>> some things
>>>>> >> that we are not as
>>>>> >> >> >> > passionate about.
>>>>> >> >> >> > Some of us are passionate
>>>>> about
>>>>> >> braille! Others are
>>>>> >> >> >> > passionate about
>>>>> >> >> >> > independent travel. Others
>>>>> are
>>>>> >> passionate about the "image
>>>>> >> >> >> > of the
>>>>> >> >> >> > blind in public."
>>>>> >> >> >> > I must admit:
>>>>> >> >> >> > There are parts of the
>>>>> philosophy
>>>>> >> that I support
>>>>> >> >> >> > whole-heartedly.
>>>>> >> >> >> > For example: I do believe
>>>>> that
>>>>> >> everyone should have a
>>>>> >> >> >> > chance to learn
>>>>> >> >> >> > braille as a viable way of
>>>>> >> communicating.
>>>>> >> >> >> > I believe that blind people
>>>>> should
>>>>> >> be taught by blind
>>>>> >> >> >> > people.
>>>>> >> >> >> > But, (one example of my
>>>>> >> divergence)  I did hear that
>>>>> >> >> >> > in the philosophy
>>>>> >> >> >> > that the NFB is skeptical
>>>>> (and does
>>>>> >> not care) to work with
>>>>> >> >> >> > other
>>>>> >> >> >> > organizations of disabled
>>>>> people.
>>>>> >> >> >> > They say that if they work
>>>>> with
>>>>> >> other disabled people's
>>>>> >> >> >> > organizations,
>>>>> >> >> >> > blind people get  put on
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> backburner.
>>>>> >> >> >> > I understand this
>>>>> skepticism. But, I
>>>>> >> would encourage us to
>>>>> >> >> >> > still try
>>>>> >> >> >> > to work with other
>>>>> organizations -
>>>>> >> yet, have our goal
>>>>> >> >> >> > firmly planted
>>>>> >> >> >> > in our mind.
>>>>> >> >> >> > So, you might say that I
>>>>> "disagree,"
>>>>> >> with that portion of
>>>>> >> >> >> > the philosophy.
>>>>> >> >> >> > But, for me:
>>>>> >> >> >> > I am in the nfb because I
>>>>> want to
>>>>> >> help blind people achieve
>>>>> >> >> >> > their
>>>>> >> >> >> > highest  potential.
>>>>> >> >> >> > I want to show us (I am not
>>>>> so
>>>>> >> worried about that fickle
>>>>> >> >> >> > sighted
>>>>> >> >> >> > public) that We can live
>>>>> the life
>>>>> >> that we want.
>>>>> >> >> >> > We can be parents.
>>>>> >> >> >> > We can be professionals.
>>>>> >> >> >> > We can go on trips
>>>>> independently.
>>>>> >> >> >> > We can enjoy activities
>>>>> such as
>>>>> >> sports, games, playing an
>>>>> >> >> >> > instrument,
>>>>> >> >> >> > picnics, etc.
>>>>> >> >> >> > We can worship as we
>>>>> choose.
>>>>> >> >> >> > We can go to college.
>>>>> >> >> >> > We can have a career.
>>>>> >> >> >> > We can live fulfilling
>>>>> lives full of
>>>>> >> all of the events
>>>>> >> >> >> > that  are
>>>>> >> >> >> > present in the lives of
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> sighted.
>>>>> >> >> >> > That is why I am here.
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > And, maybe that is what we
>>>>> can take
>>>>> >> to other countries.
>>>>> >> >> >> > Thoughts?????
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > There are organizations in
>>>>> other
>>>>> >> countries.
>>>>> >> >> >> > Does the world Blind Union
>>>>> have a
>>>>> >> listing of these
>>>>> >> >> >> > organizations in
>>>>> >> >> >> > each country?
>>>>> >> >> >> > I have found some, but not
>>>>> many.
>>>>> >> >> >> > I thought that one thing
>>>>> that the
>>>>> >> World Blind Union can do
>>>>> >> >> >> > is to
>>>>> >> >> >> > provide an international
>>>>> directory
>>>>> >> of organizations and
>>>>> >> >> >> > services for
>>>>> >> >> >> > the blind.
>>>>> >> >> >> > It would also be nice if
>>>>> they could
>>>>> >> help with an internet
>>>>> >> >> >> > site and
>>>>> >> >> >> > a bit of email.
>>>>> >> >> >> > Yes, I have seen the
>>>>> International
>>>>> >> Library Service provide
>>>>> >> >> >> > a small
>>>>> >> >> >> > list, but it is out of
>>>>> date, I am
>>>>> >> positive.
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > Blind corps, well, I will
>>>>> have to
>>>>> >> google this.
>>>>> >> >> >> > Do they only go to
>>>>> turkey?????
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > I am sorry to hear about
>>>>> Robert
>>>>> >> Leslie Newman.
>>>>> >> >> >> > I  always enjoyed the
>>>>> thought
>>>>> >> provoker and hope that
>>>>> >> >> >> > someday, a writer
>>>>> >> >> >> > takes it on.
>>>>> >> >> >> > Jan
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > On 8/3/10, Anmol Bhatia
>>>>> <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>>>>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> > > Hello James,
>>>>> >> >> >> > > First and for most
>>>>> welcome to
>>>>> >> the list.
>>>>> >> >> >> > > I like Hina ecco the
>>>>> value that
>>>>> >> people like you and
>>>>> >> >> >> > Jan bring to
>>>>> >> >> >> > > international students
>>>>> and for
>>>>> >> blind individuals in
>>>>> >> >> >> > under developed
>>>>> >> >> >> > > countries.
>>>>> >> >> >> > > During the Inter
>>>>> Cultural
>>>>> >> Exchange Committee meeting,
>>>>> >> >> >> > Buna Dahal, one of the
>>>>> >> >> >> > > co-founders of Blind
>>>>> Core did a
>>>>> >> presentation on Blind
>>>>> >> >> >> > Cor and as I mentioned
>>>>> >> >> >> > > to the group
>>>>> sometime ago
>>>>> >> on the discussion that
>>>>> >> >> >> > maybe this can be one of
>>>>> >> >> >> > > our adopted projects.
>>>>> >> >> >> > > I actually met the
>>>>> young lady
>>>>> >> from Japan whom you were
>>>>> >> >> >> > refering to at the
>>>>> >> >> >> > > Travel and Tureism
>>>>> chapter
>>>>> >> meeting. To be quite
>>>>> >> >> >> > honest, she provided me
>>>>> with
>>>>> >> >> >> > > her contact
>>>>> information and I
>>>>> >> accidently deleted it so
>>>>> >> >> >> > if it would be
>>>>> >> >> >> > > possible for you to
>>>>> get her
>>>>> >> contact information and
>>>>> >> >> >> > email me off list I
>>>>> >> >> >> > > would really
>>>>> appreciate it.
>>>>> >> >> >> > > This brings up another
>>>>> idea!
>>>>> >> Maybe we could advertise
>>>>> >> >> >> > with the Travel and
>>>>> >> >> >> > > Tureism group and send
>>>>> out a
>>>>> >> flyer on their list
>>>>> >> >> >> > serve. I am pretty sure
>>>>> >> >> >> > > there would be members
>>>>> in this
>>>>> >> group who would love to
>>>>> >> >> >> > connect with
>>>>> >> >> >> > > international students
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> possibley do some
>>>>> >> >> >> > international development
>>>>> >> >> >> > > project.
>>>>> >> >> >> > > I am glad you brought
>>>>> the point
>>>>> >> about starting a
>>>>> >> >> >> > special interest
>>>>> >> >> >> > > international division
>>>>> within
>>>>> >> NFB. I think we would
>>>>> >> >> >> > have more supporters
>>>>> >> >> >> > > then not. As you
>>>>> mentioned that
>>>>> >> most people would
>>>>> >> >> >> > enthusiastically support
>>>>> >> >> >> > > us and this is true
>>>>> and these
>>>>> >> people would also bring
>>>>> >> >> >> > our group value. My
>>>>> >> >> >> > > vision is that our
>>>>> group
>>>>> >> would consist of
>>>>> >> >> >> > international students,
>>>>> people
>>>>> >> >> >> > > who care deeply about
>>>>> >> international students such as
>>>>> >> >> >> > yourself and Jan and
>>>>> >> >> >> > > Americans who are
>>>>> interested in
>>>>> >> travel abroad eather
>>>>> >> >> >> > for studies or just
>>>>> >> >> >> > > travel or are
>>>>> interested in
>>>>> >> making international
>>>>> >> >> >> > friends. I think we would
>>>>> >> >> >> > > also have alot of
>>>>> second
>>>>> >> generation US citizens
>>>>> >> >> >> > meaning those who are
>>>>> >> >> >> > > naturalized  US
>>>>> citizens.
>>>>> >> I met a person who was a
>>>>> >> >> >> > naturalized  US citizen
>>>>> >> >> >> > > but said he will
>>>>> always be
>>>>> >> international in heart.
>>>>> >> >> >> > > In addition, we would
>>>>> have
>>>>> >> supportors who may not
>>>>> >> >> >> > Necessarily  be active
>>>>> >> >> >> > > with our group,  but
>>>>> would
>>>>> >> be supportors  of our
>>>>> >> >> >> > cause. As you mentioned,
>>>>> >> >> >> > > there will certainly
>>>>> be a few
>>>>> >> who would be hostile to
>>>>> >> >> >> > our cause and
>>>>> >> >> >> > > existence but these
>>>>> will be
>>>>> >> few. One thing I have
>>>>> >> >> >> > learned in more then 20
>>>>> >> >> >> > > years of living in the
>>>>> United
>>>>> >> States is that people
>>>>> >> >> >> > who are hostile towards
>>>>> >> >> >> > > international students
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> people who are not lucky
>>>>> >> >> >> > enough to be US citizens
>>>>> >> >> >> > > are usually the same
>>>>> people who
>>>>> >> hold negative attitude
>>>>> >> >> >> > towards many things
>>>>> >> >> >> > > including blindness
>>>>> and are
>>>>> >> usually the people who are
>>>>> >> >> >> > self serving meaning
>>>>> >> >> >> > > only think about what
>>>>> is best
>>>>> >> for them. I have learned
>>>>> >> >> >> > through experience
>>>>> >> >> >> > > that it is best just
>>>>> to ignore
>>>>> >> these people.
>>>>> >> >> >> > > As you mentioned the
>>>>> benefit a
>>>>> >> organized special
>>>>> >> >> >> > interest  group for us is
>>>>> >> >> >> > > that it would allow us
>>>>> to have
>>>>> >> a leadership structure,
>>>>> >> >> >> > allow us to open up a
>>>>> >> >> >> > > bank account and allow
>>>>> us to
>>>>> >> rais funds.
>>>>> >> >> >> > > I like the idea of
>>>>> writing up a
>>>>> >> one page add and
>>>>> >> >> >> > distribute it to various
>>>>> >> >> >> > > groups and anywhere
>>>>> else we may
>>>>> >> be able to recruit. My
>>>>> >> >> >> > suggestion is that we
>>>>> >> >> >> > > have a conference call
>>>>> maybe as
>>>>> >> soon  as this
>>>>> >> >> >> > weekend to discuss the
>>>>> content
>>>>> >> >> >> > > of the add and
>>>>> brainstorm of
>>>>> >> places where we could
>>>>> >> >> >> > advertise. Any thoughts?
>>>>> >> >> >> > > Jim you brought up
>>>>> another
>>>>> >> advantage of our group and
>>>>> >> >> >> > this list. Amazing how
>>>>> >> >> >> > > ideas pop up in one's
>>>>> mind!
>>>>> >> When you mentioned that
>>>>> >> >> >> > you were Hina's pen-pal,
>>>>> >> >> >> > > it occured to me that
>>>>> this
>>>>> >> group would be excellent
>>>>> >> >> >> > place to build pen-pal
>>>>> >> >> >> > > relationships with
>>>>> blind
>>>>> >> individuals in other
>>>>> >> >> >> > countries. To be quite
>>>>> frank a
>>>>> >> >> >> > > teacher at the
>>>>> Arkansas School
>>>>> >> for the Blind
>>>>> >> >> >> > encouraged me to find a
>>>>> pen-pal
>>>>> >> >> >> > > but I was simply just
>>>>> to lazy
>>>>> >> to do it. This were the
>>>>> >> >> >> > days of writing and
>>>>> >> >> >> > > mailing the letter
>>>>> before the
>>>>> >> days of email and
>>>>> >> >> >> > internet. Amazing how
>>>>> >> >> >> > > technology has changed
>>>>> even
>>>>> >> with communicating with
>>>>> >> >> >> > pen-pal!
>>>>> >> >> >> > > Anyways, Jim welcome
>>>>> to the
>>>>> >> list and please give
>>>>> >> >> >> > Robbert Lesliy Newman our
>>>>> >> >> >> > > best regard and wish
>>>>> him
>>>>> >> speady  recovery.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > > sincerely,
>>>>> >> >> >> > > Anmol
>>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > > I seldom think about
>>>>> my
>>>>> >> limitations, and they never
>>>>> >> >> >> > make me sad. Perhaps
>>>>> >> >> >> > > there is just a touch
>>>>> of
>>>>> >> yearning at times; but it is
>>>>> >> >> >> > vague, like a breeze
>>>>> >> >> >> > > among flowers.
>>>>> >> >> >> > > Hellen Keller
>>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > > --- On Mon, 8/2/10,
>>>>> James H.
>>>>> >> "Jim" Canaday M.A. N6YR
>>>>> >> >> >> > <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>> >> >> >> > > wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> From: James H.
>>>>> "Jim"
>>>>> >> Canaday M.A. N6YR <n6yr at sunflower.com>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Subject:
>>>>> >> [Blind-international-students]
>>>>> >> >> >> > introducing myself and
>>>>> comments on
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> your discussion
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> To: "Blind
>>>>> International
>>>>> >> Students Mailing List"
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Date: Monday,
>>>>> August 2,
>>>>> >> 2010, 7:53 PM
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Hello members of
>>>>> the Blind
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Internationals nfb
>>>>> list;
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> I am Jim
>>>>> Canaday.  I
>>>>> >> am the president of the
>>>>> >> >> >> > Jayhawk
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> chapter of the NFB
>>>>> of
>>>>> >> kansas, here in Lawrence
>>>>> >> >> >> > (where Kansas
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> University is
>>>>> >> located).  I am also active with
>>>>> >> >> >> > the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> writers division
>>>>> of NFB.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> I'll give more of
>>>>> an
>>>>> >> introduction later down this
>>>>> >> >> >> > e-mail.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > I have been
>>>>> delighted
>>>>> >> that nfb  supported
>>>>> >> >> >> > this effort
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> by providing the
>>>>> list for
>>>>> >> internationals.  I
>>>>> >> >> >> > care
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> deeply about
>>>>> blind
>>>>> >> international students who are
>>>>> >> >> >> > here in
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> the U.S.  I am
>>>>> also
>>>>> >> quite concerned about
>>>>> >> >> >> > conditions
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> for most blind
>>>>> people in
>>>>> >> the world.  I know very
>>>>> >> >> >> > well
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> in my heart that
>>>>> blind
>>>>> >> people have it much better
>>>>> >> >> >> > here than
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> in most of the
>>>>> world and
>>>>> >> that means that we have a
>>>>> >> >> >> > serious
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> responsibility.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Robert Leslie
>>>>> Newman,
>>>>> >> president of the writers
>>>>> >> >> >> > division and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> active member of
>>>>> Blind
>>>>> >> Corps is currently in the
>>>>> >> >> >> > hospital,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> he lives in
>>>>> nebraska.
>>>>> >> he cares deeply and works
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> diligently to
>>>>> bring the nfb
>>>>> >> philosophy of
>>>>> >> >> >> > orientation and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> mobility to other
>>>>> countries
>>>>> >> through blind corps;
>>>>> >> >> >> > they
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> go teach the
>>>>> teachers
>>>>> >> primarily.  that  way
>>>>> >> >> >> > other
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> countries can
>>>>> train their
>>>>> >> own blind people.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> also from nebraska
>>>>> is Fetos
>>>>> >> Floyd who grew to
>>>>> >> >> >> > adulthood in
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Turkey.  she is
>>>>> I
>>>>> >> believe the head of the
>>>>> >> >> >> > nebraska
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> center for the
>>>>> blind where
>>>>> >> training takes place
>>>>> >> >> >> > and she
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> participates in
>>>>> blind corps
>>>>> >> too.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> robert and fetos
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> several others recently
>>>>> >> >> >> > returned from
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> their second trip
>>>>> to
>>>>> >> turkey.  it seems that the
>>>>> >> >> >> > program
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> in turkey is doing
>>>>> very
>>>>> >> well.  I believe that all
>>>>> >> >> >> > of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> the members of
>>>>> Blind Corps
>>>>> >> are members of NFB.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> I have
>>>>> communicated with
>>>>> >> officers of NABS about
>>>>> >> >> >> > this group
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> recently, and
>>>>> several
>>>>> >> months ago.  there is an
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> international grad
>>>>> student
>>>>> >> here in my chapter and
>>>>> >> >> >> > I have
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> told her of this
>>>>> >> list.  I cannot tell you why she
>>>>> >> >> >> > is
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> hesitant to join.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> it's really great
>>>>> to see
>>>>> >> the activity on this list
>>>>> >> >> >> > increase
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> so
>>>>> >> much!   blind people often experience
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> isolation.  I
>>>>> think
>>>>> >> that may often be worse for
>>>>> >> >> >> > blind
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> international
>>>>> students who
>>>>> >> come here to study.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> if I can give a
>>>>> little
>>>>> >> advice,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> I believe that
>>>>> >> international students and
>>>>> >> >> >> > internationals in
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> the U.S. should
>>>>> actually
>>>>> >> have their own division
>>>>> >> >> >> > in
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> NFB.  you are at
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> beginning of this process.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> or you are at the
>>>>> beginning
>>>>> >> of becoming a special
>>>>> >> >> >> > interest
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> group.  as a
>>>>> division
>>>>> >> you will get more attention
>>>>> >> >> >> > and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> have more impact
>>>>> on
>>>>> >> others.  it takes time to
>>>>> >> >> >> > build a
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> group, organize
>>>>> and form a
>>>>> >> division.  and your
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> experience is
>>>>> actually
>>>>> >> typical.  yes some people
>>>>> >> >> >> > may be
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> put off by your
>>>>> being
>>>>> >> internationals, but most
>>>>> >> >> >> > will
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> not.  some
>>>>> >> people  will be put off by the fact
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> that I am from
>>>>> kansas,
>>>>> >> too.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Divisions start
>>>>> from the
>>>>> >> ground up most often.
>>>>> >> >> >> > you
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> have taken steps
>>>>> >> already like other groups did:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> forming
>>>>> communication
>>>>> >> within yourselves; defining
>>>>> >> >> >> > your
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> identity and your
>>>>> >> interests; and forming goals.
>>>>> >> >> >> > I hope
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> you might find in
>>>>> your
>>>>> >> hearts some patience with
>>>>> >> >> >> > the rest of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> us in the
>>>>> federation, as we
>>>>> >> are all human too.
>>>>> >> >> >> > some of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> us will
>>>>> enthusiastically
>>>>> >> work with internationals,
>>>>> >> >> >> > many will
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> be shy or busy
>>>>> with other
>>>>> >> interests, and a few
>>>>> >> >> >> > will be truly
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> hostile.  please
>>>>> don't
>>>>> >> let the few bad people put
>>>>> >> >> >> > you
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> off.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> more advice.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> maybe you all have
>>>>> done
>>>>> >> this but I have not seen
>>>>> >> >> >> > it.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> you are now in the
>>>>> stage of
>>>>> >> getting interested
>>>>> >> >> >> > people
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> together for your
>>>>> >> organization.  a very simple
>>>>> >> >> >> > thing
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> you can do in this
>>>>> is to
>>>>> >> write a direct one page
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> statement.  your
>>>>> >> organization's statement should
>>>>> >> >> >> > give
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> your tentative
>>>>> name, your
>>>>> >> e-mail list info for
>>>>> >> >> >> > subscribing,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> who you are, what
>>>>> your
>>>>> >> interests are, and who you
>>>>> >> >> >> > are
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> looking for as
>>>>> new
>>>>> >> members.  and any other
>>>>> >> >> >> > contact
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> information that
>>>>> would be
>>>>> >> useful.  your statement
>>>>> >> >> >> > then
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> can be easily
>>>>> posted to
>>>>> >> groups, and people can
>>>>> >> >> >> > forward it
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> along.  you will
>>>>> have
>>>>> >> a single  presentation
>>>>> >> >> >> > that
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> you all have
>>>>> agreed on that
>>>>> >> represents you.
>>>>> >> >> >> > your
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> statement also can
>>>>> go into
>>>>> >> the Braille Monitor.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> to get this
>>>>> statement
>>>>> >> together, you need to first
>>>>> >> >> >> > decide
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> what your goals
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> interests are.  think of who
>>>>> >> >> >> > you
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> are looking for
>>>>> as
>>>>> >> potential members.  and, you
>>>>> >> >> >> > can
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> consider how to
>>>>> put your
>>>>> >> group's presentation
>>>>> >> >> >> > together from
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> those decisions.
>>>>> I
>>>>> >> would not presume to suggest
>>>>> >> >> >> > to you
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> what these should
>>>>> be.
>>>>> >> but if you have a unified
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> message, and one
>>>>> that is
>>>>> >> very easily distributed,
>>>>> >> >> >> > it is very
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> powerful.  there
>>>>> are
>>>>> >> people you want in your
>>>>> >> >> >> > group who
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> may have to hear
>>>>> about it
>>>>> >> two or more times before
>>>>> >> >> >> > they
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> reach out to you.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> I believe strongly
>>>>> in NFB,
>>>>> >> and I also know that
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> internationals
>>>>> are
>>>>> >> wonderful people who also teach
>>>>> >> >> >> > the rest
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> of us much.  so I
>>>>> very
>>>>> >> strongly hope that you
>>>>> >> >> >> > will work
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> within NFB.  NFB
>>>>> has
>>>>> >> great resources you will
>>>>> >> >> >> > find
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> helpful.  it also
>>>>> has
>>>>> >> a wonderful network of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> people.  NFB will
>>>>> be
>>>>> >> much better with you in it.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> though you do not
>>>>> have a
>>>>> >> formal organization now,
>>>>> >> >> >> > it would
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> be worth
>>>>> investigating
>>>>> >> forming one.  that way you
>>>>> >> >> >> > can
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> designate officers
>>>>> and have
>>>>> >> a bank account.
>>>>> >> >> >> > also,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> others will see
>>>>> you are
>>>>> >> serious by taking these
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> steps.   again, many other divisions and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> special interest
>>>>> groups
>>>>> >> have done the same
>>>>> >> >> >> > thing.  and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> most started with
>>>>> very
>>>>> >> little if any push or
>>>>> >> >> >> > support from
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> NFB national
>>>>> >> leadership.  there are at least two
>>>>> >> >> >> > other
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> nfb groups I
>>>>> could
>>>>> >> participate with, but I do not
>>>>> >> >> >> > have the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> time or energy to
>>>>> join in
>>>>> >> with them.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> if you look at the
>>>>> writers
>>>>> >> division website
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> www.nfb-writers-division.org
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> you will see that
>>>>> we have a
>>>>> >> very good website.
>>>>> >> >> >> > this
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> is also provided
>>>>> by the
>>>>> >> national organization.
>>>>> >> >> >> > but
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> they did not
>>>>> provide such
>>>>> >> things for the writers
>>>>> >> >> >> > division
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> until it was
>>>>> organized and
>>>>> >> functioning.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> enough advice?
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> *I am here because
>>>>> of
>>>>> >> Hina.  five years and a
>>>>> >> >> >> > month
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> ago, I wrote to
>>>>> her in
>>>>> >> Pakistan, and I was
>>>>> >> >> >> > incredibly
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> fortunate to be
>>>>> her pen
>>>>> >> pal.  she is a dear
>>>>> >> >> >> > friend of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> mine.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> the M.A. after my
>>>>> name is
>>>>> >> in clinical psychology,
>>>>> >> >> >> > and I
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> completed the
>>>>> practicum as
>>>>> >> a student
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> therapist.   I earned the degree at kansas
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> university in
>>>>> 1991, with no
>>>>> >> help from kansas
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> university.  K.U.
>>>>> has
>>>>> >> a sad long history of not
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> properly providing
>>>>> services
>>>>> >> for blind students.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> I grew up in rural
>>>>> central
>>>>> >> california so I am
>>>>> >> >> >> > curious about
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> where Miso
>>>>> lives.  I
>>>>> >> was completely blind from
>>>>> >> >> >> > age 13,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> and partial
>>>>> before
>>>>> >> that.  my bachelor's degree is
>>>>> >> >> >> > from
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> the university of
>>>>> >> california at davis.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> I am married and
>>>>> have no
>>>>> >> children.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> I hope I can help
>>>>> this
>>>>> >> group to grow and
>>>>> >> >> >> > flourish.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> jc
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> At 04:48 PM
>>>>> 8/2/2010, you
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > Hello,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > Jan if you
>>>>> will recall
>>>>> >> one of the co-founders
>>>>> >> >> >> > of Blind
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Core was from
>>>>> Turkey and is
>>>>> >> I believe the director
>>>>> >> >> >> > of VR in
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Nebraska. However,
>>>>> do not
>>>>> >> quote me on this. I do
>>>>> >> >> >> > not agree
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> about bringing
>>>>> NFB
>>>>> >> philosophy to my country but a
>>>>> >> >> >> > philosophy
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> which promotes
>>>>> possitive
>>>>> >> attitude about blindness
>>>>> >> >> >> > and a can
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> do attitude. Just
>>>>> my two
>>>>> >> sense .
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > Anmol
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > I seldom
>>>>> think about
>>>>> >> my limitations, and they
>>>>> >> >> >> > never
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> make me sad.
>>>>> Perhaps there
>>>>> >> is just a touch of
>>>>> >> >> >> > yearning at
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> times; but it is
>>>>> vague,
>>>>> >> like a breeze among
>>>>> >> >> >> > flowers.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > Hellen
>>>>> Keller
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > --- On Mon,
>>>>> 8/2/10,
>>>>> >> Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > From:
>>>>> Reyazuddin,
>>>>> >> Yasmin
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Subject:
>>>>> Re:
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> [Blind-international-students]
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> [Blind-international-students introduction
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > To:
>>>>> "Blind
>>>>> >> International Students
>>>>> >> >> >> > Mailing List"
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Date:
>>>>> Monday,
>>>>> >> August 2, 2010, 3:42 PM
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Hi Hena
>>>>> and all
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Once
>>>>> again, we
>>>>> >> need to communicate with
>>>>> >> >> >> > Ron Brown
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> and see
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > if he
>>>>> will
>>>>> >> support us. Also if some of
>>>>> >> >> >> > you will
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> remember
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > there
>>>>> was a group
>>>>> >> of blind
>>>>> >> >> >> > federationists who
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> went to Turkey
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > to teach
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> blind professionals there.
>>>>> >> >> >> > May be we
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> need to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > talk
>>>>> with Robert
>>>>> >> Leslie Newman from
>>>>> >> >> >> > Nebraska who
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> did the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> program.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > The NFB
>>>>> has send
>>>>> >> out people to other
>>>>> >> >> >> > countries
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> for teaching
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> federation
>>>>> >> philosophy.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > We who
>>>>> get
>>>>> >> trained here need to go back
>>>>> >> >> >> > to our
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> home country
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > and take
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> federation to people
>>>>> >> >> >> > there.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Yasmin
>>>>> >> Reyazuddin
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Aging
>>>>> &
>>>>> >> Disability services
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> Montgomery County
>>>>> >> Government
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> Department of
>>>>> >> Health & human
>>>>> >> >> >> > Services
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > 401
>>>>> Hungerford
>>>>> >> Drive (3rd floor)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> Rockville MD
>>>>> >> 20850
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> 240-777-0311
>>>>> >> (MC311)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> 240-777-1556
>>>>> >> (personal)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> 240-777-1495
>>>>> >> (fax)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > office
>>>>> hours 8:30
>>>>> >> am 5:00 pm
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> Languages
>>>>> >> English, Hindi, Urdu, Braille
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > This
>>>>> message may
>>>>> >> contain protected
>>>>> >> >> >> > health
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> information or
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > other
>>>>> information
>>>>> >> that is confidential
>>>>> >> >> >> > or
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> privileged. If
>>>>> you
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > are not
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> intended recipient, please
>>>>> >> >> >> > contact
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> the sender by
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > return
>>>>> mail and
>>>>> >> destroy any copies of
>>>>> >> >> >> > this
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> material.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Thank
>>>>> you.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> -----Original
>>>>> >> Message-----
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>>>>> Behalf Of hina
>>>>> >> altaf
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Sent:
>>>>> Monday,
>>>>> >> August 02, 2010 4:18 PM
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > To:
>>>>> Blind
>>>>> >> International Students Mailing
>>>>> >> >> >> > List
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Subject:
>>>>> Re:
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> [Blind-international-students]
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > hi jan,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >  yes
>>>>> that is
>>>>> >> why i started this list
>>>>> >> >> >> > and had
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> philip help me
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > as co
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > founder.
>>>>> buna is
>>>>> >> on the list but she
>>>>> >> >> >> > never said
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> anything.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > she is
>>>>> a
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> wonderful person
>>>>> >> but i think if she
>>>>> >> >> >> > wanted to do
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> anything
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > for
>>>>> this
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > list or
>>>>> >> international students, she
>>>>> >> >> >> > would have
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> said
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> something by now
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > or
>>>>> before. but i
>>>>> >> am not sure how to
>>>>> >> >> >> > respond to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> this since
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > she
>>>>> never
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > spoke
>>>>> much in the
>>>>> >> list and i know she
>>>>> >> >> >> > was in the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> list since
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > she did
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> communicate with
>>>>> >> me long time ago.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > so that
>>>>> is my
>>>>> >> question, does nfb
>>>>> >> >> >> > officials want
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> to get
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > involve
>>>>> with
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > helping
>>>>> >> internationals and people in
>>>>> >> >> >> > under
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> developed
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> countries? that
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > is
>>>>> something i
>>>>> >> can not answer and most
>>>>> >> >> >> > nfb
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> officials are
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > quiet on
>>>>> this
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > list and
>>>>> some
>>>>> >> don't even respond.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > hina.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>>>>> 8/2/10,
>>>>> >> Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > Hi
>>>>> Jan,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Good
>>>>> >> observation.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Most of the
>>>>> >> time the international
>>>>> >> >> >> > people
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> are the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> underserved as
>>>>> >> they are
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > (we
>>>>> are) not
>>>>> >> included in or
>>>>> >> >> >> > promoted other
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> than being
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > a
>>>>> member.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > If
>>>>> we move
>>>>> >> forward and become
>>>>> >> >> >> > leaders other
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> (majority)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > do not
>>>>> like it.
>>>>> >> I
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> know it from
>>>>> >> my personal
>>>>> >> >> >> > experience.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > I
>>>>> have to
>>>>> >> thank the scholarship
>>>>> >> >> >> > committee
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> this year as
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > there
>>>>> were many
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> >> international students who won the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> scholarships. If
>>>>> we
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > could
>>>>> have the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> students
>>>>> >> participate and become
>>>>> >> >> >> > leaders in
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> their own
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> communities we
>>>>> >> will not
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > be
>>>>> >> underserved or impoverished.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Yasmin
>>>>> >> Reyazuddin
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Aging &
>>>>> >> Disability services
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Montgomery
>>>>> >> County Government
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Department
>>>>> >> of Health & human
>>>>> >> >> >> > Services
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> 401
>>>>> >> Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Rockville MD
>>>>> >> 20850
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> 240-777-0311
>>>>> >> (MC311)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> 240-777-1556
>>>>> >> (personal)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> 240-777-1495
>>>>> >> (fax)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> office hours
>>>>> >> 8:30 am 5:00 pm
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Languages
>>>>> >> English, Hindi, Urdu,
>>>>> >> >> >> > Braille
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> This message
>>>>> >> may contain protected
>>>>> >> >> >> > health
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> information
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > or
>>>>> other
>>>>> >> information
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> that is
>>>>> >> confidential or privileged.
>>>>> >> >> >> > If you
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> are not the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> intended
>>>>> >> recipient,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> please
>>>>> >> contact the sender by return
>>>>> >> >> >> > mail and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> destroy
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > any
>>>>> copies of
>>>>> >> this
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> material.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>>>>> Behalf Of jan
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> wright
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Sent:
>>>>> >> Monday, August 02, 2010 3:52
>>>>> >> >> >> > PM
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > To:
>>>>> Blind
>>>>> >> International Students
>>>>> >> >> >> > Mailing
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> List
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>> >> Re:
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> [Blind-international-students]
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > Hi
>>>>> Yasmin,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> That is an
>>>>> >> interesting thought.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > I
>>>>> know Ron
>>>>> >> and I am sure that he
>>>>> >> >> >> > would be
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> open to the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > idea.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > My
>>>>> only
>>>>> >> question is:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Since
>>>>> >> "underserved,"   has a
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> broader
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> application than
>>>>> >> "international
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> students,"
>>>>> >> do you think that the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> international
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> community will be
>>>>> >> ....
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> .... last to
>>>>> >> receive support?
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Just a
>>>>> >> question.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Honestly, I
>>>>> >> am not certain, but it
>>>>> >> >> >> > doesn't
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> seem that
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > this
>>>>> group is
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> getting much
>>>>> >> notice in the NFB, as
>>>>> >> >> >> > it is.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Anmol had
>>>>> >> some great ideas!
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > We
>>>>> should
>>>>> >> not let them pass as
>>>>> >> >> >> > ideas only.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> Jan
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > > On
>>>>> 8/2/10,
>>>>> >> hina altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>>> what is
>>>>> >> the goal of that group
>>>>> >> >> >> > yasmin?
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> we can do
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > it but i
>>>>> would
>>>>> >> like
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>>> to know
>>>>> >> more about that group
>>>>> >> >> >> > first. and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> then you
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > can send
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> email.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>>> how is
>>>>> >> it going to help us in
>>>>> >> >> >> > starting a
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> project
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > to help
>>>>> people
>>>>> >> in
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>>> under
>>>>> >> developed countries?
>>>>> >> >> >> > thanks.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> hina.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>>> On
>>>>> >> 8/2/10, Reyazuddin, Yasmin
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>>> <Yasmin.Reyazuddin at montgomerycountymd.gov>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > >>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>> Hi
>>>>> >> Hena, and all:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>> I
>>>>> >> will suggest that we
>>>>> >> >> >> > consider
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> combining two
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > groups
>>>>> into one
>>>>> >> and getting
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>> what
>>>>> >> we need. The cultural
>>>>> >> >> >> > exchange
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> group
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > should
>>>>> join
>>>>> >> forces with the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> committee to empower
>>>>> >> >> >> > underserved
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> population.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>> The
>>>>> >> goals are similar and
>>>>> >> >> >> > then we
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> will also
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > have the
>>>>> support
>>>>> >> of the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> national
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> office. I can start the
>>>>> >> >> >> > process by
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> sending an
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > email to
>>>>> Ron
>>>>> >> Brown who is
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>> the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> president of Indiana.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>> We
>>>>> >> have a meeting every
>>>>> >> >> >> > year and can
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> do more
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > that
>>>>> way.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> Yasmin Reyazuddin
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> Aging & Disability
>>>>> >> >> >> > services
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> Montgomery County
>>>>> >> >> >> > Government
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> Department of Health &
>>>>> >> >> >> > human
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Services
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>> 401
>>>>> >> Hungerford Drive (3rd
>>>>> >> >> >> > floor)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> Rockville MD 20850
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> 240-777-0311 (MC311)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> 240-777-1556 (personal)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> 240-777-1495 (fax)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> office hours 8:30 am 5:00
>>>>> >> >> >> > pm
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> Languages English, Hindi,
>>>>> >> >> >> > Urdu,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Braille
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>> This
>>>>> >> message may contain
>>>>> >> >> >> > protected
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> health
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> information or
>>>>> >> other
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> information
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>> that
>>>>> >> is confidential or
>>>>> >> >> >> > privileged.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> If you are
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > not the
>>>>> intended
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> recipient,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> please contact the sender
>>>>> >> >> >> > by return
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> mail and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > destroy
>>>>> any
>>>>> >> copies of this
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> material.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> Thank you.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> From: blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> [mailto:blind-international-students-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> hina
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> altaf
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> Sent: Monday, August 02,
>>>>> >> >> >> > 2010 1:38
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> PM
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>> To:
>>>>> >> Blind International
>>>>> >> >> >> > Students
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Mailing List
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> Subject: Re:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> [Blind-international-students][Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>> hi
>>>>> >> anmol,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>  i agree with you and
>>>>> >> >> >> > that's
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> what we
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > tried
>>>>> last year
>>>>> >> without much
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> success. i think on this
>>>>> >> >> >> > issue i
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> need to talk
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > to you
>>>>> either on
>>>>> >> the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> phone or online. there are
>>>>> >> >> >> > a lot of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> issues and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > things
>>>>> that i
>>>>> >> don't
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>> feel
>>>>> >> comfortable discussing
>>>>> >> >> >> > on nfb
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> mailing
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > list due
>>>>> to some
>>>>> >> reasons
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> which i think we can talk
>>>>> >> >> >> > off list.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> hina.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>> On
>>>>> >> 8/2/10, Anmol Bhatia
>>>>> >> >> >> > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> Hello Jan and Hina,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> Due to reasons which I
>>>>> >> >> >> > do not
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> want to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > mention
>>>>> on the
>>>>> >> list I do not think
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> our
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> list would get much
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> advertisement from
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > NFB
>>>>> officials. So
>>>>> >> this means
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> that
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> more then likely we
>>>>> >> >> >> > will have to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> self
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> advertise.
>>>>> >> Personally I have been
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> advertising through
>>>>> >> >> >> > word of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> mouth telling
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > my
>>>>> friends or
>>>>> >> anyone who may
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> be
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> interested in joining
>>>>> >> >> >> > or is
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> interested in
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> international
>>>>> >> issues. Also
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> maybe
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> someone can write a
>>>>> >> >> >> > article for
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Mobility
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> International USA
>>>>> >> (MIUSA)
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> www.miusa.org
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> and it would be
>>>>> >> >> >> > published on
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> their
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > webcite.
>>>>> It is a
>>>>> >> non-profit
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> organization
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> which works on
>>>>> >> >> >> > international
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> development
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > for
>>>>> people with
>>>>> >> disabilities in
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> other countries and
>>>>> >> >> >> > also
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> promotes
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> international
>>>>> >> travel for individuals
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> with
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> disabilities. Some
>>>>> >> >> >> > things they
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> do is to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > promote
>>>>> study
>>>>> >> abroad
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> opportunities
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> for students with
>>>>> >> >> >> > disabilities
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> leadership
>>>>> >> trainings for individuals
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> with
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> disabilities. I would
>>>>> >> >> >> > encourage
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> you to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > visit
>>>>> their
>>>>> >> webcite and maybe
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> sign
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> up
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> for their news letter.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> Also we may want to
>>>>> >> >> >> > consider
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> sending a
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > blerb to
>>>>> various
>>>>> >> list serves that
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> we
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> are on to let people
>>>>> >> >> >> > know that
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> there is a
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > list
>>>>> serve for
>>>>> >> international
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> students and for anyone
>>>>> >> >> >> > who
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> wants to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> communicate with
>>>>> >> international
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> students
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> or is interested in
>>>>> >> >> >> > learning
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> about study
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > abroad
>>>>> or
>>>>> >> volunteer
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> opportunities
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> abroad. Also someone
>>>>> >> >> >> > could write
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> a article
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > for the
>>>>> Student
>>>>> >> Slate (a news
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> letter sponsored by the
>>>>> >> >> >> > NABS "a
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> student
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > chapter
>>>>> of the
>>>>> >> NFB") September
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> issue. I would
>>>>> >> >> >> > volunteer to do
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> this but I
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > am
>>>>> already
>>>>> >> writing couple of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> articles so it may be a
>>>>> >> >> >> > bit to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> much.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> The list is on the NFB
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> discussion list.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Infact
>>>>> >> thats how I learned
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> about
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> it, but most people do
>>>>> >> >> >> > not think
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> about
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > going to
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> discussion list page
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> therefore are not aware
>>>>> >> >> >> > of it.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> Also I think having
>>>>> >> >> >> > regular
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> conference
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > calls
>>>>> and some
>>>>> >> fun activities
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> will
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> help generate interest
>>>>> >> >> >> > in the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> group.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> Just some thoughts.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> Anmol
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> I seldom think about
>>>>> >> >> >> > my
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> limitations, and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > they
>>>>> never make
>>>>> >> me sad. Perhaps
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> there is just a touch
>>>>> >> >> >> > of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> yearning at
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > times;
>>>>> but it is
>>>>> >> vague, like a
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> breeze
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> among flowers.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> Hellen Keller
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> --- On Mon, 8/2/10,
>>>>> >> >> >> > hina altaf
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> From: hina altaf
>>>>> >> >> >> > <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> [Blind-international-students]
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> [Blind-international-studentsintroduction
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> To: "Blind
>>>>> >> >> >> > International
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Students
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Mailing
>>>>> List"
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> <blind-international-students at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> Date: Monday,
>>>>> >> >> >> > August 2,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> 2010, 12:03
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > PM
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> i contacted Diane
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> McGeorge  last
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> year as well about
>>>>> >> >> >> > our group
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> but
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> never got any
>>>>> >> >> >> > reply. well
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> where do you
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > want to
>>>>> >> advertise
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> the group?
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> last year i and
>>>>> >> >> >> > philip got
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> an offer to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > do a
>>>>> radio show
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> about our group
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> but we did not do
>>>>> >> >> >> > due to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> some reason
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > that we
>>>>> discussed
>>>>> >> off
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> list. but
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> that is something
>>>>> >> >> >> > we could
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> still
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> consider. hina.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> On 8/2/10, jan
>>>>> >> >> >> > wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > Hi Anmol,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > Tell us about
>>>>> >> >> >> > the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> conference in
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > DC.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > That sounds
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> interesting.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > Yes, I forgot
>>>>> >> >> >> > about the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> world
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Blind
>>>>> Union.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > I went to
>>>>> >> >> >> > their site in
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> hopes to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > join:
>>>>> but I am
>>>>> >> not
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> part of an
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > organization
>>>>> >> >> >> > and I
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> think that you
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > have to
>>>>> have lots
>>>>> >> of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> money to join.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > Or, you have
>>>>> >> >> >> > to be part
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> of a
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> blindness
>>>>> >> organization.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > Well, Anmol, I
>>>>> >> >> >> > forgot
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> about the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > blind
>>>>> corps
>>>>> >> also.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > I found this
>>>>> >> >> >> > quite
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> interesting.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > I'd like to
>>>>> >> >> >> > know more
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> about it
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > and if
>>>>> we could
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> contribute in some
>>>>> >> >> >> > type of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > way.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > Yes, I would
>>>>> >> >> >> > be willing
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> to hear
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > this
>>>>> woman speak
>>>>> >> on a
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> conference call.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > I have a
>>>>> >> >> >> > meeting on
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Tuesday, but
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > the
>>>>> other days
>>>>> >> are
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> free for me.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > I have emailed
>>>>> >> >> >> > Diane
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> McGeorge
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > about
>>>>> this group
>>>>> >> and she
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> has not gotten
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > back with me.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > So, I guess we
>>>>> >> >> >> > will
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> have to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> advertise
>>>>> >> ourselves.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > If we can get
>>>>> >> >> >> > a good
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> description
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > about
>>>>> our group
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> together,  then
>>>>> >> >> >> > we
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > can send it to
>>>>> >> >> >> > our
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> divisions and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > state
>>>>> presidents
>>>>> >> for
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> them to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > distribute.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > Hey, Hina, you
>>>>> >> >> >> > are
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> moderator of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > the
>>>>> group:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > What do you
>>>>> >> >> >> > think?
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > I don't know,
>>>>> >> >> >> > any
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> thoughts?
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> > On 8/2/10,
>>>>> >> >> >> > Imran Ahmed
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> <imran.altaf at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >> What
>>>>> >> >> >> > platform are
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> you using
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > to host
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> conference
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> calls? Please
>>>>> >> >> >> > share
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >> the
>>>>> >> >> >> > necessary
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> details so that
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > all who
>>>>> are
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> interested, can
>>>>> >> >> >> > participate
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >> in the
>>>>> >> >> >> > conference
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> call.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >> Imran.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 8/2/10,
>>>>> >> >> >> > hina
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> altaf <hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>> hi
>>>>> >> >> >> > anmol,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>  yes
>>>>> >> >> >> > that
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> is great idea
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > to
>>>>> involve more
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> people an d
>>>>> >> >> >> > organizations
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> who
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>> might
>>>>> >> >> >> > be
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> interested to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > help
>>>>> people from
>>>>> >> under
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> developed
>>>>> >> >> >> > countries.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>> buna
>>>>> >> >> >> > is also on
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> the list,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > i met
>>>>> her last
>>>>> >> year
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> and she is a very
>>>>> >> >> >> > nice
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>> lady
>>>>> >> >> >> > who is
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> very
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> successfull in
>>>>> >> overcoming
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> challenges that she
>>>>> >> >> >> > had
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>> being
>>>>> >> >> >> > someone
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> from under
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> developed
>>>>> >> countries.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> how did your
>>>>> >> >> >> > conference
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>> go? i
>>>>> >> >> >> > wish i
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> could have
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > been
>>>>> able to make
>>>>> >> it
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> but due to some
>>>>> >> >> >> > issues i
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>> was
>>>>> >> >> >> > not able to
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> attend
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > although
>>>>> i
>>>>> >> qualified.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> also i think we
>>>>> >> >> >> > should
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>> focuss
>>>>> >> >> >> > on
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> starting one
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > project
>>>>> at a time
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> discuss first what
>>>>> >> >> >> > we
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>> want
>>>>> >> >> >> > to do. but
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> i will be
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> interested in
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> conference call and
>>>>> >> >> >> > if we
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> can
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>> get
>>>>> >> >> >> > some ideas
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> from the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > members
>>>>> as well
>>>>> >> as
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> from some people
>>>>> >> >> >> > who are
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > already serving
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> under
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> developed
>>>>> >> countries in
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> some ways. thanks.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>> hina
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>> On
>>>>> >> >> >> > 8/1/10,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Anmol Bhatia
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > Hello Jan
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> and all,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > Sorry it
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> has taken me
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > a while
>>>>> to
>>>>> >> respond.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> I was in Washington
>>>>> >> >> >> > D.C.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> last
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > week
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > for the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> National
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Council
>>>>> on
>>>>> >> Disability
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> Summit and got kind
>>>>> >> >> >> > of busy
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> since
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > returning.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > Jan you did
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> pretty
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > good
>>>>> job
>>>>> >> summarizing
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> what happened at
>>>>> >> >> >> > the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> meeting,
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > but
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > you for got
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> about the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > World
>>>>> Blind
>>>>> >> Union.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> Dr. Shroder (NFB's
>>>>> >> >> >> > first
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> vice-president)
>>>>> who
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > is
>>>>> active in the
>>>>> >> World
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> Blind Union told us
>>>>> >> >> >> > about
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > World Blind
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> Union and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > what it
>>>>> does.
>>>>> >> Also
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> Buna Dahal told us
>>>>> >> >> >> > about
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> her
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > experience
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> about
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > growing
>>>>> in Nepal
>>>>> >> as the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> only person in her
>>>>> >> >> >> > family
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> who
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > is
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > blind and
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> some of the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> challenges she
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> faced. She also
>>>>> >> >> >> > told us
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> about the
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > Blind
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > Core (like
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> the Peace
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > Core)
>>>>> except a
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> organization which
>>>>> >> >> >> > serves
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> blind
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > people.
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > Perhaps
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> this can be
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > > one of
>>>>> our
>>>>> >> adopted
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> project that we as
>>>>> >> >> >> > a group
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> of
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> > interested
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> Federationest who
>>>>> >> are
>>>>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> >> >>>>> interested in help
>>>>> >> >> >> > blind
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