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Mon Jun 15 18:54:39 UTC 2009
Like I said...Emily went down over the side of the road on a pretty steep
embankment and the chair would not tip. She wanted to show me that the
chair is built to stay upright. I am sure there are incidents of people
falling out of the chair, etc. I would suggest you contact Jazzy and ask how
their chair is made to handle inclines etc. deb
In a message dated 6/15/2009 12:48:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
mommaholly at gmail.com writes:
I was just wondering if the chair could fall on you. I heard they are
quite heavy.
Holly
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dept of rehab services...blind services. that is what we have here in
tx.
NO i have challenged that chair and not fell out...but even if you
do...you can fall standing up...worse thing u will do is fall
out....closer to
ground lol.
In a message dated 6/14/2009 11:14:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
mommaholly at gmail.com writes:
Blind association? Like DSB? Have you ever been afraid you might tip
it and if so what would happen like would it fall on you or dump you
out?
Holly
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blind association should be able to network you holly to a mobility
specialist. They paid for services to help me...best money ever
spent...for
real. I never ever tipped in this chair and I can tell you I have put
it
through some pretty tough tests....we have even had to wash the wheels
off cuz
they get mud caked in them cuz I was trying to garden after a rain
lol.
Maybe I need mud flaps too...someone went by one day and said to
hubby...good
thing no one gives her a tractor lol....ha ha...deb
In a message dated 6/14/2009 8:11:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
mommaholly at gmail.com writes:
Oh you made me laugh saying that John Deer needs to make some wheels
for
you. Smiles. Have you ever had your chair tp with you in it? How
would I go about finding a mobility specialist that can do wc and db
too?
Holly
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Oh Laura..I do wish I was near you. You and I would go on a
wheelchair
field trip and I guarantee you come home two hours later feeling more
confident. It does not happen overnight and you need a good 3-6
months and much
exposure to different buildings and situations to get around. And
truly,
you could fall now on your own without the wheelchair. At least with
wheelchair..you are closer to the ground. Also, we actually tested
this Jazzy
chair and went down over a hill (my mobility specialist did it to see
how
stable the chair is about tipping over) and she was at a pretty steep
slant and
it did NOT tip. Now..getting stuck..I am the queen at getting that
chair
stuck places. Like I said...John Deere needs to invent some new
wheels for
me lol. My son who is 15 jokes he is going to charge me "wrecker
fees"
for getting me unstuck from our front yard after it just rained lol.
I think
the trick is mobility training and I heard (just a rumor) that the
government has cut mobility training as part of a service. I
LOVEEEEEEEEd my
mobility specialist...she actually pulled me out of bed some days I
didn't want
to go!! ha ha. I hope you will try again in an open space...deb
In a message dated 6/14/2009 6:05:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
lauraeaves at yahoo.com writes:
Wow, Holly and Agape, your mail makes me count my blessings. I still
have
balance, but a severe to profound hearing loss in both ears. My
vision is
now down to seeing only light and bright colors, and that out of the
right
corner of the right eye, and I am confined to a manual chair due to
orthopedic problems -- but I still feel blessed. Negativity is poison
--
not just unpleasant for people to deal with, but eroding the negative
person
him/herself.
Good luck with the power chair. I confess I'm afraid of them. I
had
a
sighted friend in college who was in a power chair and accidently
went off
the side of a curb. She had to be scooped up from the street and
xrayed
for
injuries. She didn't have the brittle bone problem I have -- if I
did
that
with a chair it would be a major catastrophy.
I did try a power chair for a week, and liked it, but the dangers
weren't
worth it to me -- not to mention to damage to my walls and
furniture...*smile*
Anyway, good luck and happy rolling!
--le
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Holly,
I am especially interested in blind mobility because I was a nurse
and am studying to become a rehab specialist. I myself had to
struggle with mobility issues that actually depressed me enough I was
staying in bed way
too
much.
I am not real familiar with your condition although you have
explained
that you are totally blind and have hearing lose also. It sounds
like
your gait (walking) has been compromised by your disease also. I
guess I would
like to know if this disease is progressive and will your walking
and
stability get worse??? How much hearing loss have you experienced?
I have MS/a back injury from previous car accident/and am legally
blind (I see shadows from the left eye so that is a
help-sometimes.... When one eye can see even just a bit...it causes
a perception problem (that
is another whole story) and I think something is further then it is
and end up
hitting
a doorway or my finger.) My conditions might progress so I
prepared
myself
for no vision at all. I used a blindfold and that was actually
easier to mobilate.
I decided in 2005, that I needed to stop using all my energy
staying
upright. My kids and grand kids always saw me walking in an
"ape-like
walk"
using a cane with a grim face trying to survive the pain of walking.
By
the
time, I got to my destination, I had to take a pain pill and was
miserable for any event in my life. It was my best decision to get
electric
mobility.
Let me give you some tips I learned.
1. Hand controls: You use your left or right hand to control the
knobs. It is wise to first use the "turtle setting" of the chair when
first learning to use your chair. Always keep your hand above the
controls and
not
hanging off the side or you will break a finger or hurt your hand if
you
do
hit the molding, etc. going through a doorway. Size up your
doorways.
You
will need at LEAST 35 inches for doorways and floor space with a
Jazzy electric chair to clear the arm rests which is its widest
part.
Always turn the control to off when you stop or when getting in and
out of the chair. This is VERY important fact to learn. If you
leave the
chair
on, and am pivoting, you can hit controller and your chair will
either run into you or knock something flying while you are trying
to pivot out of
the chair. TRAIN that if you don't turn it off...someone scolds you
lol.
2. Clear your surroundings in your home and learn your "spaces".
I
am
sure your family members already know that nothing is to be moved or
rearranged without telling you already but I need to reiterate that.
I
was
sentimental and wanted my China closet where it was because that is
full
of
my
good china and crystal but it was right next to the doorway where
the
transition strip into the room makes it a rough fit through door.
Of
course, I
needed to get that china closet moved, because what good would a
destroyed china closet be if I ran into it and all the crystal came
tumbling out of
the
doors?
Any floor that has more then half inch change going from one room to
another, will have to have a transitional strip put down. If only
under an
inch,
you can sometimes use a thick welcome carpet rectangle (some call
them
mud rugs-very course material about inch thick) to help with that
transition. Transition strips can be purchased online also. Check
with
local agencies
for funding for house adaptation because I am on a special state
program that sends aides to my home daily and they paid for the
transition strips and its installation.
Do not crowd your paths you go regularly. For example, don't put the
family computer and chair right near your path to the kitchen because
invariably family members leave the chair out. It could end up
hurting
you
if you
run into it or catch a wheel on that chair. Set your home up for
success. Clear a path that is at least 36-48 inches for you to go
freely to all places in your home. When you get your new chair, try
to get a 'mobility specialist' to work with you in an open area to
learn control of the
chair.
It
does NOT come instantly. Plan on getting a few fingers hurt or
ankle
bones
lol.
Make sure your children/family understand that sneakers (especially
men's
bulky ones) are not to be left in middle of floor. Remove all extra
furniture but keep durable cornered ones for markers to be used with
your
guide
cane. (I will talk about guide canes next.) Expect that you
still
will
have the occasional accidents of running over the cat's tail because
they didn't move fast enough etc. LOL you will hear that if you get
em lol.
3. I use a roller tip guide cane which was purchased by the blind
association for me. I tried the ball cane and it was awkward but the
roller
tip
was perfect for me. Its about 3 inches across and turns like a
steering
wheel around in front of me as I check my surroundings. Therefore,
one
hand
(my right) is using the control to move forward and backward and the
other hand (a lot of wrist action-expect your arm and shoulders to
hurt during
first
month of practicing.) is used to hold the cane
in a reverse grip with the thumb up. You use your wrist to move the
cane back and forth. Learn to keep the roller tip on the ground at
all times. This roller tip is "clearing" you for access to the new
area in front of you. You will soon learn that it will show
you
when you get to a new intersection in a building and even on a busy
street will tell you when sidewalk changes or curb is ahead. It has
saved me many falls down a stairwell etc. I kind of think of my
guide cane as a
magic
wand to open up my world to me again. I went everywhere with my
mobility specialist to learn different challenges. In the hospital,
I learned that revolving doors should be avoided by blind wheelchair
users from my
mobility
specialist. I would not take that as a "NO NO" so I learned to use
the slow down button on the revolving door and go through them anyway
because
our
major hospital has it as the entrance where my hubby was always
there
as a patient. The guide cane will make a half circle in front of you
at
all times staying on the ground. Think of windshield wipers but
completely flat on ground in front of you. Practice this in an open
area such as a church, school
or
hospital.
4. Using your other senses. This is one thing that concerns me when
you said you are losing your hearing also. I use my hearing a great
deal
when
transporting myself. I listen for an upcoming person in a hall at
the hospital. I listen for the shoes of someone I am following in a
public
place.
(I do have two family members trained as my guide person by the way.
This is where a guide dog might come in handy for you. He could be
your
"ears'.) I listen constantly in new area because my guide cane
tells
me
when I
am going from cement to a driveway. I use my cane and sound to
help me cross at a red light at a busy intersection. I can hear my
cane touch the walls and curbs. You will have to rely solely on your
hand and guide cane to seek out your "frontal" space. It is always
ok to stop the chair and get your bearings with where you are by
taking
the guide cane completely around your area. You can even take it
behind you to see how far a wall or barrier is behind you. I use my
guide cane
when
backing into a
space to sit next to a regular chair in a waiting room etc.
Your familiarity with the chair will take time and practice. I can
tell
you on second day I was in tears because I am a type "A" personality
that likes to do things perfectly. But now, I have conquered
airports, school auditoriums, hospitals, and very busy intersections
on public streets.
If your healthcare provider is concerned you will lose your muscle
tone etc., that is an old school idea. I do my exercises in bed
still (I can
do
more now that I am free from pain all the time.) and I have great
upper
core
strength because I went to physical therapy to get exercises to do
in
the
wheelchair. I am constantly busy now in the wheelchair. My
kitchen
sink
and stove have no cupboard doors or wood frame so I can pull my
wheelchair right under to get access to do dishes and cook. I use
my
table for my
prep
area because it is perfect size for chopping, etc. If I ever get
rich, I will have a counter built right near sink that will be lower
for me to use as my prep area or a center island low enough for me
with a sink in it.
My
church has been so great to me. They have built ramp, redid the
kitchen, widened doors and even put a new Pergo laminated floor in
my
living room because my wheels were spinning on the thick carpeting.
What floors do you have in your home, by the way?
I have given you much to think about but truly...I love my electric
Jazzy chair. Now I am working on more storage issues on the chair
lol. I want feedbags or a special cover that is pretty and
comfortable.
In closing, I will tell you that getting a power chair is the best
thing I could do to be the best mother that I can be. I now sit up
proudly when entering my son's school. I am smiling instead of
being
in extreme pain.
I
am using that energy to engage in my child's world and community. I
personally feel more empowered in the electric wheelchair then having
to almost crawl into a public building.
I do have struggles because its not a perfect world and many things
are not handicap accessible yet. (Many bleachers at son's football
games are not yet handicap accessible for example.) I work with
community leaders, building owners, school districts to see that
they
do not have accessible buildings. I just feel that I am an educator
and advocate for those with physical and mental challenges that
prevent them to be all they can be.
YOU
can...and YOU will...if you put your mind to it.
By way, if you are looking at the financial part of the purchase of
chair, you only need a doctor's order to get the electric
wheelchair.
You then take the doctor's order to the medical supply store and
they
will help
adapt
the chair best for you. DO NOT buy a chair without being able to
try it. Medicare pays for most of the chair costs and if you have
medicaid, I believe they pick up the difference. If not, and you
don't have the 20%
funds,
look at different agencies to help you. You need to convince your
doctor
that you NEED an electric wheelchair. I had to convince my
neurologist that it would be better for me to sit to travel around
my community and
home.
I had fell so much, he had ordered a Life Line (button that
contacts
emergency personnel I have emergency) for me to wear because I laid
one
day
til
my son came home in a long walk-in closet that was very hot.
Since,
getting the chair three years ago, I have not fell once. (I have
hurt my
ankle
because I put down my foot between petal and floor which is another
big NO
NO, I didn't mention.) But an ankle sprain is much better then a
broken
hip
or concussion lol. NOW, my neurologist recommends electric
mobility
for
his patients because he has seen how totally "freeing" it was for
me
to go from pain to GAIN by using electric mobility. An electric
wheelchair improves the quality of life in people that have limited
mobility due to
injury
or disease.
Good luck, and do try to find a mobility specialist to assist you in
getting your chair and teaching you to use it. The blind association
in
your
are
should have access to a mobility specialist.
MY LAST advice is to ENJOY LIFE AS IT IS...because its YOUR life and
your memories you are making new memories with your little guy.
Laugh
at yourself when you run into a wall. If you goof and spill
something,
figure
out
what could of been done to avoid that incident. Keep things
organized.
You
will be surprised what all you can do from that chair. I even
garden but my wheels get stuck..I am gonna ask the wheelchair
company to come out
with
a John Deere wheels for on my Jazzy! HA HA.
Take every day as a Blessing! Best wishes! Keep me posted. deb
In a message dated 6/13/2009 11:40:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
mommaholly at gmail.com writes:
Hello everyone. I was on this list once before, but got off of it
for
whatever reason. Now I am back with more questions and needing
support.
I am totally blind and while I was pregnant with my son 2 years ago
I started losing my hearing. Now I have lost one hear completely
and
the other ear mostly. Since the tuor that I have is an acoustic
neuroma on the 8th nerve which controls not only hearing, but also
balance, well I'm vertually drunk all day every day.
With each day that passes my balance get worse and worse. I have
fallen countless times. I am afraid that oone of these day I'm
going to fall and break my nec or something very very dangerous.
Right now I live in Asheville, NC which is in the mountains. That is
like even
worse with the balance. Right now I use a walker, but it still can't
make me catch myself whenever I'm already falling. My vistibular
system is wack.
So I'm leaning more to a power chair. I have tumors in my spine and
don't think I would be strong enough to push myself, especially up
all these sloping sidewalks, driveways, etc of the mountains of
Asheville. I am going to be moving back to Arkansas, flat land, soon
though just
because these mountains are killing me. I'm afraid to go out of my
house alone afraid of falling. I always feel like crying when I go
out. It's so hard and I have to concentrate so intently not to lose
my
balance and thinking about it only make the balance worse and I have
to go sooooo slow.
So I think really a chair would be best for me. I just am suck
because balance is terrible now, but being in a chair, will that
make
it worse? My right leg is already weak. The quads are basically
non
existant and
PT never could get it back. There's nerve damage and really not way
to
get it back. I have nothing to lock my knees so it can buckle very
easily. And since that leg is not strong I have trouble keepingthe
balance, then throw in all the other vistibular problems.
How does mobility in a chair work? Is it hard? One thing I was
thinkingabout, I know I'm paranoid. I know there are seat belts,
but
what if the chair tips overand you're strapped in then that heavy
chairs falls on you. What would you do? How likely is it to tip?
Have any of you tipped it?
Also what would be the best type of chair to get considering I'm
blind
and don't have my own car to adapt and also won't have public
transportation in Arkansas to call a Van and make surethey have a
lift and those little wheel locks like paratranset. Would a
folding
powerchair be good? Do any of you have one of those?
Help, I'm full of question. Smiles.
Holly
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