[blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten

Sat Apr 30 22:56:14 UTC 2011

There are also Serotek Keys for K-12 (http://www.serotek.com/kk-main) and 
NVDA which are both free screen readers.  Both can be loaded on a thumb 
drive and carried from computer to computer and used as needed.

My thought about screen readers and kindergarteners is that it would help if 
an adult would try the website with the screen reader prior to having the 
child use it.  Not all sites are screen reader compatible.  A lot of 
websites designed for kids are programmed in Flash and that does not 
consistently work with a screen reader Sometimes teachers think just having 
access to a screen reader solves all the issues a blind child has accessing 
the computer.  Some kids can become discouraged and think it is their fault 
when it's actually the screen reader that isn't working.

If kids are doing exercises designed to teach math facts or typing skills, 
there are specific software packages designed for blind kids.  My overriding 
thought for teachers and TVIs is that they need to plan ahead.  If teachers, 
TVIs and parents work cooperatively and think creatively, there is little 
that the blind child can't do.

Sally Thomas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Holloway" <rholloway at gopbc.org>
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)" 
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Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Transition to Kindergarten

>I haven't been following this thread but as far as a screen reader, while 
>JAWS may be more expensive than what is needed, often-- especially for 
>small kids, it can be used for free in "demo mode". I always forget how 
>long it will go-- seems like 40 or 50 minutes, but it is generally long 
>enough for the length of lessons kids usually have at a young age.
>
> There certainly is some software that is self-voicing, but it is good to 
> have a screen reader available as well if possible. I like the idea of 
> getting the kids familiar with JAWS from an early age as they are likely 
> to be using it for a very long time. The retail package costs $900 or 
> $1000, but the free demo is the exact same software, only with a time 
> expiration. To reset the clock you have to reboot the machine.
>
> This is also great to know about if they tell you they have "no funds for 
> a screen reader". It can be downloaded for free or Freedom Scientific also 
> distributes demo CD's with this on it.
>
> Incidentally, if you want to buy it after the demo is already loaded, you 
> don't even install the software again, you just enter an activation "key". 
> At least how it has worked for many years. I have not run the "demo" 
> version in a year or more.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Aaron Cannon wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Some other thoughts from my own daughters Kindergarten experience (she
>> is sighted, I am blind):
>>
>> My daughter's class had the opportunity to use computers for short
>> periods throughout the year, and were she blind, I would likely ask
>> that she also be allowed to use a computer with some adaptive tech.  I
>> realize that it might be a little for a full-blown screen reader, but
>> there are, I believe, some self-voicing software titles aimed at that
>> age group.
>>
>> I would also make sure the IEP included cane travel instruction.  A
>> lot of cane travel instruction.
>>
>> That's all that occurs to me that hasn't already been mentioned.
>>
>> Good luck, and don't settle for anything less than everything you need.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>> On 4/29/11, Penny Duffy <pennyduffy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ok I don't think i will be that much help but I will try. I had a 
>>> sighted
>>> kindergartener who started first grade blind.
>>>
>>> I know that it is very important not to forget every child is different 
>>> and
>>> thats with the individual part comes into play with an IEP.  No one 
>>> knows
>>> your child like you do.
>>>
>>> There should be reading goals in the IEP including math. My daughter 
>>> (who is
>>> in first grade and just learned braille)  had both in her IEP. 
>>> Kindergarten
>>> kids have goals they should be at by the end of the year and that should 
>>> be
>>> your son's goal.  The IEP is very details about the level of of Braille 
>>> for
>>> reading and the Nemeth for math she should be in a year. (some of which 
>>> I
>>> still dont' understand LOL)
>>>
>>> My daughter doesn't really uses any technology (there is a clause in the 
>>> IEP
>>> to use as needed like they added a text to speech reader for the 
>>> computer
>>> when she need it) She will be introduced a note taker in about 3rd grade
>>> I believe (maybe a little older) She has a Perkins Braille at both home 
>>> and
>>> at school.  Every child is different in what they need. Those items that 
>>> the
>>> child needs and the learning medium should be covered in the functional
>>> visual assessment. Thats a very important thing to have
>>>
>>> How often will the child see the TVI.. This seems to be different for 
>>> every
>>> single child.  My daughter sees her 1 hour a day 5x a week.
>>>
>>> Don't forget Orientation and Mobility goals.  Its an area that gets
>>> forgotten sometime depending on how much experience the school district 
>>> has
>>> with visually impaired students. My daughter sees her O & M once a week 
>>> and
>>> uses a cane. She doesn't always need it but O & M is important.
>>>
>>> Will he need an aid to help convert all material and give him any extra 
>>> help
>>> he may need.  A child in kindergarten should already be learning some
>>> independence its really important they don't over help but its also very
>>> important that all the materials are  the right format for him.  Abby's 
>>> aid
>>> spend half her time not even in the room with her but converting and
>>> brailling papers and books.
>>>
>>> Its reasonable to expect that everything everyone else does in the 
>>> classroom
>>> your child is able to do some how.  Even fluff work.
>>>
>>> Oh I had them add outreach programs to the IEP. We live pretty close to
>>> Perkins School and they have these great programs during weekends look 
>>> and
>>> see if the local schools for the blind has something like that and see
>>> if the school district will pay for them.
>>>
>>> Its always  better to try and ask then not ask at all. Don't lower your
>>> expectations. Don't let the school lower them ether.
>>>
>>> Thats all I have to to share :)  there are some wonderful resources for 
>>> IEPs
>>> I don't know where to direct you.  We just did our IEP in November and I 
>>> was
>>> pretty clueless.
>>> --
>>> --Penny
>>> ----------
>>> Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Erin Teply <eteply at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am preparing for our IEP roll-up meeting as my son Max will be 
>>>> starting
>>>> kindergarten next year.  He is my first child to attend public school, 
>>>> so
>>>> the process is new to me and I have so many questions around how they
>>>> place
>>>> kids in the classroom, what they consider, etc.   I also have questions 
>>>> as
>>>> to what 'should be' on his IEP as educational goals aren't necessarily
>>>> going
>>>> to be on as he will have the same goals as everyone else.  I've got
>>>> questions on what technology should be introduced, if any, along with 
>>>> his
>>>> Perkins Brailler.  Because I feel like there is so much I don't know, I 
>>>> am
>>>> sending a letter to the school prior to the meeting to make sure all my
>>>> questions are addressed.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has a child close in age or can remember what they did prior 
>>>> to
>>>> kindergarten with respect to placement, IEP goals, technology and 
>>>> anything
>>>> else, please share with me what you can.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much,
>>>> Erin Teply
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