[blindkid] Awesome!
lucy
gingerlocket at hotmail.com
Fri Jun 17 17:16:00 UTC 2011
Hi, My daughters has been Blind since birth, she is now 10. Teachers/Specialists seem to know not to make a HUGE issue out of her successfully completing a Mobility skill, ECT and commend her just like they would a child learning any independence skill. But, the general public?! In my experience, Yes they do get excited and have a look of OMG! WOW! on their faces and sometimes overly exaggerate a simple skill well done. I simply have Josey say, Thank You. And, thank them too. It's not a big deal, a lot are just curious and it's great to interact with the public, educate them and make them aware that simple independent skills are a normal part of daily living!! - Lucy
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> 3. Re: Awesome! (Richard Holloway)
> 4. Re: Awesome! (Carrie Gilmer)
> 5. PBS Station Frustration (Richard Holloway)
> 6. Re: PBS Station Frustration (Penny Duffy)
> 7. Re: PBS Station Frustration (Richard Holloway)
> 8. blind vs deaf population (Richard Holloway)
> 9. Re: PBS Station Frustration (Penny Duffy)
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> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:30:30 -0500
> From: Carly B <barnesraiser at gmail.com>
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> Hi! I've been meaning to post this question for some time: what do you say
> to the well-meaning, kind-hearted, but clueless person who exclaims, "WOW!
> That's AMAZING!" when your child walks up or down a set of stairs (or some
> other perfectly ordinary thing)? Do you just smile and let it go? Talk to
> your child afterwards? Is there an opportunity for education with a quick
> and to-the-point comment?
>
> I'm just wondering what you do/say.
>
> Thanks for any helpful advice you may have!
>
> :) Carolynn Barnes
> (aka Brian's mom)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:04:40 -0400
> From: Penny Duffy <pennyduffy at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Awesome!
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> I say wow when a child uses great mobility skills but I say it for a whole
> different reason then the person in the example is. (I am a big cheerleader
> for my daughter its hard to modivate her sometimes LOL) LOL. I try and
> brush those kinds of things off. I may respond that all it all takes is
> proper training. People really think that that suffer from blindness are
> helpless. Your child did expand the person realization what the blind can
> do. Its one person at a time.
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Carly B <barnesraiser at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi! I've been meaning to post this question for some time: what do you say
> > to the well-meaning, kind-hearted, but clueless person who exclaims, "WOW!
> > That's AMAZING!" when your child walks up or down a set of stairs (or some
> > other perfectly ordinary thing)? Do you just smile and let it go? Talk to
> > your child afterwards? Is there an opportunity for education with a quick
> > and to-the-point comment?
> >
> > I'm just wondering what you do/say.
> >
> > Thanks for any helpful advice you may have!
> >
> > :) Carolynn Barnes
> > (aka Brian's mom)
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>
>
> --
> --Penny
> ----------
> Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:07:48 -0400
> From: Richard Holloway <rholloway at gopbc.org>
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> We get that a good bit as well. I agree it is a case by case thing. When there is a reasonable way to point it out without making a "situation" of it, I like to explain that my daughter is just like most kids and she does pretty much the same things, she just does things with slightly different skills than some other children.
>
> -RH
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Carly B wrote:
>
> > Hi! I've been meaning to post this question for some time: what do you say
> > to the well-meaning, kind-hearted, but clueless person who exclaims, "WOW!
> > That's AMAZING!" when your child walks up or down a set of stairs (or some
> > other perfectly ordinary thing)? Do you just smile and let it go? Talk to
> > your child afterwards? Is there an opportunity for education with a quick
> > and to-the-point comment?
> >
> > I'm just wondering what you do/say.
> >
> > Thanks for any helpful advice you may have!
> >
> > :) Carolynn Barnes
> > (aka Brian's mom)
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:14:15 -0500
> From: "Carrie Gilmer" <carrie.gilmer at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind
> children\)'" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Awesome!
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> Hi Carolynn :),
> What you describe is in a nutshell why we say that the biggest "problems"
> are not from amount of eyesight. Yes sometimes you do smile and "let it go",
> sometimes it's the fifth time after other ignorance is shown and one snaps a
> bit (or in truth, a lot, lol). I have found that it is rare the opportunity
> to both have the time to teach in a situation AND have a person who TRULY
> wants to learn. And you can typically think that a person will have often
> some epiphany and understand all from one (or even a dozen encounters); some
> NEVER get it, some get it like in an epiphany all at once (like YOU). Most
> just get embarrassed, or truly don't get it and no matter how nice you say
> anything they think YOU have the problem. Pretty much everyone likes to
> think they have no ignorance or prejudice :).
> At times I have returned with a question, "WHY do you think it is
> amazing?"...and in trying to answer they see that they thought it was super
> hard (for example) to go on stairs with poor or no vision...and some times
> there has been time to elaborate on how they likely already do things
> themselves...things they know by touch...
> What I do do--ALWAYS if my child heard it...is to discuss with him. Our
> children must learn to decipher and pick up on low expectations. What if
> this was said during/just before or after a job interview? They need to
> understand when and who says things like this might be more important. And
> they need to learn to live with this and respond-or not-without being angry
> or always assuming...Its a tricky deal. And stuff like this unfortunately
> happens everyday, every day to blind adults moving about alone in the big
> world.
> We need some phone time lady :).
> Always,
> Carrie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Carly B
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:31 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
> Subject: [blindkid] Awesome!
>
> Hi! I've been meaning to post this question for some time: what do you say
> to the well-meaning, kind-hearted, but clueless person who exclaims, "WOW!
> That's AMAZING!" when your child walks up or down a set of stairs (or some
> other perfectly ordinary thing)? Do you just smile and let it go? Talk to
> your child afterwards? Is there an opportunity for education with a quick
> and to-the-point comment?
>
> I'm just wondering what you do/say.
>
> Thanks for any helpful advice you may have!
>
> :) Carolynn Barnes
> (aka Brian's mom)
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:56:07 -0400
> From: Richard Holloway <rholloway at gopbc.org>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindkid] PBS Station Frustration
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> Could anyone who is finding DVS (audio described) programming on their local PBS affiliate please email me (on or off list) and help me determine at least what PBS affiliates / cities are actually broadcasting with DVS? (Or if you are trying but can't find it on your local affiliate that would be good to know as well.)
>
> I finally got an answer about the "technical problems" with DVS in Georgia from PBS. I learned today that Georgia Public Broadcasting (GPB) simply turned off their DVS feeds for programming a while back. According to the General Manager of GPB, they "ran into a significant amount of confusion among viewers who received it, didn?t want it, and didn?t know how to turn it off..." so they "...eventually abandoned the practice of delivering DVS."
>
> I'd really like to get a sense of whether this something that happened mainly here in Georgia or of this is more widespread. I find it pretty frustrating that their main concern is apparently the time and effort spent by their engineers telling people who don't want DVS how to turn it off.
>
> I am told they may look back into offering this again now that the delivery is different (over digital TV), but first they need to determine "...what the likely impact would be for viewers who don?t want it." Sounds like they got very little response from people who wanted DVS when they turned it off, but I think that is probably because so few potential users were even aware the service had been offered.
>
> Your feedback here on the list or directly would be really appreciated. I would very much like to get DVS running here in Georgia on PBS again and if this problem is widespread, to start addressing this on more of a national level. As much as my daughter appreciated the DVS programs, I can't imagine there would not me a lot more kids and adults who would benefit from increased numbers of shows being broadcast with audio descriptions...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard
> rholloway at gopbc.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 07:47:42 -0400
> From: Penny Duffy <pennyduffy at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] PBS Station Frustration
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> Richard,
>
> I still haven't gotten it to work on my end. I have shows that are label dvs
> and I thought I turned it on at my cable box. Still nothing. I think one of
> the biggest issues with dvs is there is NO standard yet. Close captioning
> has had a standard for years.
>
> Are you going to the convention Richard? Maybe we can talk about it.
> Regardless I am really interested and I imagine we can figure it out LOL.
> When we get it all figured out maybe we can write something up for other
> parents.
>
> I have found that when the transition to digital happened that
> many channels lost the way the used to do it and there is a lot of
> confusion.
>
> --
> --Penny
> ----------
> Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:56 AM, Richard Holloway <rholloway at gopbc.org>wrote:
>
> > Could anyone who is finding DVS (audio described) programming on their
> > local PBS affiliate please email me (on or off list) and help me determine
> > at least what PBS affiliates / cities are actually broadcasting with DVS?
> > (Or if you are trying but can't find it on your local affiliate that would
> > be good to know as well.)
> >
> > I finally got an answer about the "technical problems" with DVS in Georgia
> > from PBS. I learned today that Georgia Public Broadcasting (GPB) simply
> > turned off their DVS feeds for programming a while back. According to the
> > General Manager of GPB, they "ran into a significant amount of confusion
> > among viewers who received it, didn?t want it, and didn?t know how to turn
> > it off..." so they "...eventually abandoned the practice of delivering DVS."
> >
> > I'd really like to get a sense of whether this something that happened
> > mainly here in Georgia or of this is more widespread. I find it pretty
> > frustrating that their main concern is apparently the time and effort spent
> > by their engineers telling people who don't want DVS how to turn it off.
> >
> > I am told they may look back into offering this again now that the delivery
> > is different (over digital TV), but first they need to determine "...what
> > the likely impact would be for viewers who don?t want it." Sounds like they
> > got very little response from people who wanted DVS when they turned it off,
> > but I think that is probably because so few potential users were even aware
> > the service had been offered.
> >
> > Your feedback here on the list or directly would be really appreciated. I
> > would very much like to get DVS running here in Georgia on PBS again and if
> > this problem is widespread, to start addressing this on more of a national
> > level. As much as my daughter appreciated the DVS programs, I can't imagine
> > there would not me a lot more kids and adults who would benefit from
> > increased numbers of shows being broadcast with audio descriptions...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Richard
> > rholloway at gopbc.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > blindkid mailing list
> > blindkid at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
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> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:30:42 -0400
> From: Richard Holloway <rholloway at gopbc.org>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] PBS Station Frustration
> Message-ID: <C9EC576B-217F-4962-A9D6-DBD0AA0212C9 at gopbc.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> Penny,
>
> Yes, we'll be at the convention and I'm still more than happy to talk with you on the phone as well.
>
> I think I know what you may be seeing in the cable box and if I am right, what seems to be the right place is **not** where DVS actually appears which does seem pretty absurd as you'll see when you read on. (At least it doesn't work for us here for us.)
>
> Let me explain:
>
> On my Motorola Converter Box on the Comcast cable here, I go to:
>
> Menu:
> Setup:
> Audio Setup:
>
> Now the odd part-- there are two settings up top under "Audio Setup":
>
> Default Audio Track
> Descriptive Video Service
>
>
> Factory Settings seem to be what you would expect:
>
> Default Audio Track: English
> Descriptive Video Service: Off
>
> Here is the problem: when a valid DVS program is present, changing "Descriptive Video Service" to On has NO EFFECT.
>
> Instead, select Espanol (Spanish) for Default Audio Track or select any Spanish Option you can find.
>
> I just posted another reply with a little more info as well, but the key seems to be to look for Spanish feeds on stations like Nickelodeon, (Standard Definition), I do not believe their HIgh Definition feed has the same DVS content under Spanish (at least they did not this morning.) Just ignore "Descriptive Video Service" and deal with your Default Audio Track. It works for me the same way on the Comcast Box and with TiVo.
>
> The real problem I'm having here now seems to be only that PBS and apparently CBS are not feeding their DVS programs to my market at this time on their local affiliates. I am finding some DVS programming on Nickelodeon (SD), TCM, TBS, and Fox so far, hopefully with more to come.
>
> Also, remember some DVD's in stores have this option (even at places like Wal Mart and Target). I have also borrowed DVS DVD's for free from the local library and found some at Red Box for the usual $1 / day rental. The trick there is to see what has been released with DVS because Red Box doesn't lost that feature and many libraries are also unaware of DVS content.
>
> Please let me know if you have some better luck with this now and thanks again for your info as well!
>
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Penny Duffy wrote:
>
> > Richard,
> >
> > I still haven't gotten it to work on my end. I have shows that are label dvs
> > and I thought I turned it on at my cable box. Still nothing. I think one of
> > the biggest issues with dvs is there is NO standard yet. Close captioning
> > has had a standard for years.
> >
> > Are you going to the convention Richard? Maybe we can talk about it.
> > Regardless I am really interested and I imagine we can figure it out LOL.
> > When we get it all figured out maybe we can write something up for other
> > parents.
> >
> > I have found that when the transition to digital happened that
> > many channels lost the way the used to do it and there is a lot of
> > confusion.
> >
> > --
> > --Penny
> > ----------
> > Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:56 AM, Richard Holloway <rholloway at gopbc.org>wrote:
> >
> >> Could anyone who is finding DVS (audio described) programming on their
> >> local PBS affiliate please email me (on or off list) and help me determine
> >> at least what PBS affiliates / cities are actually broadcasting with DVS?
> >> (Or if you are trying but can't find it on your local affiliate that would
> >> be good to know as well.)
> >>
> >> I finally got an answer about the "technical problems" with DVS in Georgia
> >> from PBS. I learned today that Georgia Public Broadcasting (GPB) simply
> >> turned off their DVS feeds for programming a while back. According to the
> >> General Manager of GPB, they "ran into a significant amount of confusion
> >> among viewers who received it, didn?t want it, and didn?t know how to turn
> >> it off..." so they "...eventually abandoned the practice of delivering DVS."
> >>
> >> I'd really like to get a sense of whether this something that happened
> >> mainly here in Georgia or of this is more widespread. I find it pretty
> >> frustrating that their main concern is apparently the time and effort spent
> >> by their engineers telling people who don't want DVS how to turn it off.
> >>
> >> I am told they may look back into offering this again now that the delivery
> >> is different (over digital TV), but first they need to determine "...what
> >> the likely impact would be for viewers who don?t want it." Sounds like they
> >> got very little response from people who wanted DVS when they turned it off,
> >> but I think that is probably because so few potential users were even aware
> >> the service had been offered.
> >>
> >> Your feedback here on the list or directly would be really appreciated. I
> >> would very much like to get DVS running here in Georgia on PBS again and if
> >> this problem is widespread, to start addressing this on more of a national
> >> level. As much as my daughter appreciated the DVS programs, I can't imagine
> >> there would not me a lot more kids and adults who would benefit from
> >> increased numbers of shows being broadcast with audio descriptions...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Richard
> >> rholloway at gopbc.org
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> blindkid mailing list
> >> blindkid at nfbnet.org
> >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >> blindkid:
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> >>
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>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:01:35 -0400
> From: Richard Holloway <rholloway at gopbc.org>
> To: "(for parents of blind children) NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindkid] blind vs deaf population
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> Does anyone have or know the best source to find statistics on the blind and deaf population of the US. (World specs would be interesting as well.)
>
> I'm suspecting the NFB has some pretty accurate figured as to the numbers of blind vs visually impaired people in at least the US, and probably deaf and hard of hearing figures as well. The figures I am finding are not well documented and I'd like to have some idea of how accurate these numbers are before I use this information as I need to.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:12:31 -0400
> From: Penny Duffy <pennyduffy at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] PBS Station Frustration
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>
> O M Gosh it worked.. THANK YOU Richard. I feel like an idiot. I am a pretty
> good user of technology.
>
> I am watching Arthur with DVS right now (I love Arthur its so great with
> Marina ) You are going to make my daughter's day.
>
> So need to find a way to
>
> 1. make the information clearer; its insane that picking Spanish gave
> me English DVS.
>
> 2. encourage pbs stations (and others) to broadcast in DVS. Would writing
> letters work? Telephone calls?
>
> i hope you don't mind but I am going to use your great directions on my
> website.
>
> I am gitty. I am so frustrated that your pbs affliate is not broadcasting
> its DVS
>
> SO I back to your original question
>
> WGBH broadcasts in DVS (I guess that isn't a surprise)
>
> I haven't tested NHPTV yet but i bet they do
>
> -Penny
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Richard Holloway <rholloway at gopbc.org>wrote:
>
> > Penny,
> >
> > Yes, we'll be at the convention and I'm still more than happy to talk with
> > you on the phone as well.
> >
> > I think I know what you may be seeing in the cable box and if I am right,
> > what seems to be the right place is **not** where DVS actually appears which
> > does seem pretty absurd as you'll see when you read on. (At least it doesn't
> > work for us here for us.)
> >
> > Let me explain:
> >
> > On my Motorola Converter Box on the Comcast cable here, I go to:
> >
> > Menu:
> > Setup:
> > Audio Setup:
> >
> > Now the odd part-- there are two settings up top under "Audio Setup":
> >
> > Default Audio Track
> > Descriptive Video Service
> >
> >
> > Factory Settings seem to be what you would expect:
> >
> > Default Audio Track: English
> > Descriptive Video Service: Off
> >
> > Here is the problem: when a valid DVS program is present, changing
> > "Descriptive Video Service" to On has NO EFFECT.
> >
> > Instead, select Espanol (Spanish) for Default Audio Track or select any
> > Spanish Option you can find.
> >
> > I just posted another reply with a little more info as well, but the key
> > seems to be to look for Spanish feeds on stations like Nickelodeon,
> > (Standard Definition), I do not believe their HIgh Definition feed has the
> > same DVS content under Spanish (at least they did not this morning.) Just
> > ignore "Descriptive Video Service" and deal with your Default Audio Track.
> > It works for me the same way on the Comcast Box and with TiVo.
> >
> > The real problem I'm having here now seems to be only that PBS and
> > apparently CBS are not feeding their DVS programs to my market at this time
> > on their local affiliates. I am finding some DVS programming on Nickelodeon
> > (SD), TCM, TBS, and Fox so far, hopefully with more to come.
> >
> > Also, remember some DVD's in stores have this option (even at places like
> > Wal Mart and Target). I have also borrowed DVS DVD's for free from the local
> > library and found some at Red Box for the usual $1 / day rental. The trick
> > there is to see what has been released with DVS because Red Box doesn't lost
> > that feature and many libraries are also unaware of DVS content.
> >
> > Please let me know if you have some better luck with this now and thanks
> > again for your info as well!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Penny Duffy wrote:
> >
> > > Richard,
> > >
> > > I still haven't gotten it to work on my end. I have shows that are label
> > dvs
> > > and I thought I turned it on at my cable box. Still nothing. I think one
> > of
> > > the biggest issues with dvs is there is NO standard yet. Close captioning
> > > has had a standard for years.
> > >
> > > Are you going to the convention Richard? Maybe we can talk about it.
> > > Regardless I am really interested and I imagine we can figure it out LOL.
> > > When we get it all figured out maybe we can write something up for other
> > > parents.
> > >
> > > I have found that when the transition to digital happened that
> > > many channels lost the way the used to do it and there is a lot of
> > > confusion.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --Penny
> > > ----------
> > > Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:56 AM, Richard Holloway <rholloway at gopbc.org
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Could anyone who is finding DVS (audio described) programming on their
> > >> local PBS affiliate please email me (on or off list) and help me
> > determine
> > >> at least what PBS affiliates / cities are actually broadcasting with
> > DVS?
> > >> (Or if you are trying but can't find it on your local affiliate that
> > would
> > >> be good to know as well.)
> > >>
> > >> I finally got an answer about the "technical problems" with DVS in
> > Georgia
> > >> from PBS. I learned today that Georgia Public Broadcasting (GPB) simply
> > >> turned off their DVS feeds for programming a while back. According to
> > the
> > >> General Manager of GPB, they "ran into a significant amount of
> > confusion
> > >> among viewers who received it, didn?t want it, and didn?t know how to
> > turn
> > >> it off..." so they "...eventually abandoned the practice of delivering
> > DVS."
> > >>
> > >> I'd really like to get a sense of whether this something that happened
> > >> mainly here in Georgia or of this is more widespread. I find it pretty
> > >> frustrating that their main concern is apparently the time and effort
> > spent
> > >> by their engineers telling people who don't want DVS how to turn it off.
> > >>
> > >> I am told they may look back into offering this again now that the
> > delivery
> > >> is different (over digital TV), but first they need to determine
> > "...what
> > >> the likely impact would be for viewers who don?t want it." Sounds like
> > they
> > >> got very little response from people who wanted DVS when they turned it
> > off,
> > >> but I think that is probably because so few potential users were even
> > aware
> > >> the service had been offered.
> > >>
> > >> Your feedback here on the list or directly would be really appreciated.
> > I
> > >> would very much like to get DVS running here in Georgia on PBS again and
> > if
> > >> this problem is widespread, to start addressing this on more of a
> > national
> > >> level. As much as my daughter appreciated the DVS programs, I can't
> > imagine
> > >> there would not me a lot more kids and adults who would benefit from
> > >> increased numbers of shows being broadcast with audio descriptions...
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Richard
> > >> rholloway at gopbc.org
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> --
> --Penny
> ----------
> Adventures with Abby - visionfora.blogspot.com
>
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