[blindkid] ADA Question Re: Music camp? Another alternative!

Richard Holloway rholloway at gopbc.org
Wed Mar 12 05:13:27 UTC 2014


Believe me, I agree with you 100%. And to be very clear, I discuss here that I'm not aware of any penalties for failure to comply, but I surely don't suggest that when I'm referencing the ADA section with which someone is failing to comply. 

I do believe that being out of compliance with federal guidelines often has motivating power, but I think it would motivate people a lot more if someone thought their school's funding, or possibly their personal paycheck might be effected... 

Maybe on flashier topics you could even get a news crew out to turn up he heat, but improper signage, no matter what a massive hassle it may be, really isn't likely to make the evening news as a leading story. 

Hopefully over time they will get the signage better as they slowly replace these aging school buildings, thought that doesn't do a lot to help us all right now...

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> On Mar 12, 2014, at 12:56 AM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> And the irony is that Braille signs are most helpful in buildings the
> blind person is unfamiliar with. Once I get to know my way around a
> building, the  signs are kind of  redundant with what I already know
> about the layout. It's only really important when I first get there.
> But of course, by the time I realize there are no signs and complain,
> I've just learned the building without them anyway!
> Arielle
> 
>> On 3/11/14, Richard Holloway <rholloway at gopbc.org> wrote:
>> I'd like to know that too, though my guess is that no matter the mandate,
>> formal complaints are probably rare.
>> 
>> Our daughter's school is over 50 years old. As far as we are aware, she is
>> the first/only blind student there. (Long affiliated staff say she is the
>> first, so probably that dates back 20 or 30 years, and 30 years ago, far
>> fewer blind students were mainstreamed, at least around here.)
>> 
>> Braille signage should be on some compliance checklist, but what always
>> comes up is there is seemingly no penalty for failure to comply.
>> 
>> If you have 100 schools out of compliance in your district, and if you don't
>> really want to bother putting signage in 100 schools, why not wait until
>> someone complains, then put signs ONLY in the school they complained about?
>> 
>> Or in our case, go with a 5-year "temporary" solution. We were assured
>> proper signs were requested from the county while we were still finishing
>> kindergarten at a different school, but it could take months or maybe even a
>> year. 5 years later?.... Nothing but dymo tape.
>> 
>> I can't see any excuse for new buildings having improper signage, but in
>> districts like ours, where probably 80% or 90% of our buildings are at least
>> 40 or 50 years old? I don't think they are going to be moved to install
>> these thousands of signs as they should.
>> 
>> Should they still put up proper signs after we're through at our school?
>> Sure. Are we going to take time to file some formal complaint? Not likely.
>> We have bigger fish to try.
>> 
>> One other thing we noticed: Looking at other area schools. We were pleased
>> to see more permanent Braille signs in one optional school for us. Only




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