[blindlaw] NationalFederationoftheBlindRejectsNelson-CollinsAmendment

Tue Feb 10 02:37:26 UTC 2009

actually the AAPD has this system in effect.  Perhaps the NFB shoudl
coordinate with them!

James

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:08 PM, <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> with the use of an email legislative alert system the emails or faxes are
> sent automatically to the legislators as the system is able to match up the
> member's address with their state and Federal legislative districts. There
> is then no need to waste time going to web sites looking up legislative
> addresses. The system can also be used to generate state specific alerts on
> issues.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Pepper" <b75205 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:39 PM
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> Subject: Re:
> [blindlaw]NationalFederationoftheBlindRejectsNelson-CollinsAmendment
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>
> Well all they really need to do is issue the press releases directly to the
>> members.  If they need to do anything fancy they can use daisy for more
>> extensively laid out items, particularly legislation, thats not that
>> difficult. The only problem I see is when people try to access
>> congressional
>> websites for addresses, that would have to be provided in the press
>> release.
>>
>> James
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:45 PM, <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> the technology for such a program is already developed. The question is
>>> getting NFB to use and pay for its use.
>>> Chuck
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <chatter8712 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 12:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw]
>>> NationalFederationoftheBlindRejectsNelson-CollinsAmendment
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess the real question here is whether someone is willing to
>>>
>>>> develop this, or whether we are asking the major disability advocacy
>>>> groups to do this. I have a background in web design and would not
>>>> mind helping out on something like this, and I think it would be a
>>>> great idea.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/9/09, ckrugman at sbcglobal.net <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I too am on many email lists and to give the NFB credit of the lists
>>>>> that
>>>>> I
>>>>> was on it was the first organization to post information about the
>>>>> Nelson-Collins amendment. It seems that many of the other disability
>>>>> advocacy organizations did not post it until later or not all. Had an
>>>>> legislative action been in place along with the alert emails members
>>>>> could
>>>>> have clicked on a link in the email and generated an email or fax to
>>>>> those
>>>>> Senators acting on this amendment. While my background is not in web
>>>>> design
>>>>> I have much experience in political and community organizing and in
>>>>> that
>>>>> regard I am familiar with how these systems work. If this goes forward
>>>>> I
>>>>> would be willing to be involved in the process.
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:23 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] NationalFederationof
>>>>> theBlindRejectsNelson-CollinsAmendment
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably the fastest way to reach people is via email.  I received no
>>>>>
>>>>>> less
>>>>>>
>>>>>> than five emails about the Nelson-Collins amendment in the span of
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> nine hours.  But then, I am on the right lists and check my email
>>>>>> frequently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To that extent, what can be easily done is already being done.  What
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> could be done is a complex problem, I think.  I am not surprised it
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> been on the back burner waiting for someone with the energy and drive
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> step forward and make it happen.  You might have successfully
>>>>>> volunteered
>>>>>> yourself to be that person.  *grin*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My point in discussing this particular amendment is that is that there
>>>>>> wasn't time to discuss it.  We had pretty much one day to take
>>>>>> whatever
>>>>>> action was to be taken.  And we did, based on what time we had.
>>>>>> There's
>>>>>> not much that can be done when a near supermajority starts trying to
>>>>>> cram
>>>>>> legislation down our throats with hundreds of pages and dozens of
>>>>>> amendments unless you are right there and watching it constantly.  You
>>>>>> don't have time to get the word out, and the people you want to get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> word out to probably haven't got time to respond.  It's unfortunate,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> this is what we've got.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 11:50:03PM -0800, ckrugman at sbcglobal.netwrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure that I understand this logic in that the issue here is
>>>>>>> methods in which members can effectively be mobilized to take action
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> support the NFB philosophy when advocating for legislation. When
>>>>>>> chapter
>>>>>>> meetings are held once a month and state bulletins and publications
>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>> as the Monitor are published once a month this does not provide for
>>>>>>> timely action on the part of members. The Nelson-Collins Amendment is
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> really the issue here it was the means that the broader issue came to
>>>>>>> light as there was a need for immediate action to be taken by members
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> an inadequate method of members to take such action. While many
>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have always been raised regarding the quality of VR services limiting
>>>>>>> funds for such services will not improve them on any account. Perhaps
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NFB needs to spend some time and money on modernizing the way it
>>>>>>> relates
>>>>>>> to members and how effective existing methods of communication are in
>>>>>>> mobilizing its members. Is the current method of distributing
>>>>>>> legislative
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> information through audio tapes played at chapter meetings the most
>>>>>>> effective method? I for one would prefer to receive legislative email
>>>>>>> alerts as is done with most other advocacy organizations as it is
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> more expedient with regard to use of time at chapter meetings and the
>>>>>>> fact that it is available in an accessible format for immediate
>>>>>>> action
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> members. This does not preclude the use of information published in
>>>>>>> Braille but it would result in a greater degree of member
>>>>>>> participation
>>>>>>> and involvement.
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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