[blindlaw] job discrimination

Michael Fry mikefry79 at gmail.com
Tue Feb 24 05:25:56 UTC 2009


The stimulus plan is desinged to create 4 million jobs.  NFB needs to
cordinate a significant effort to be sure at least a small fraction of those
go to people who visually impaired.

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:18 PM, BRIAN LANGLOIS <langlois2 at verizon.net>wrote:

>  I wouldn't worry about putting them out of business, they'll survive.
> Also, I'm afraid they would just yes their way through an educational
> conversation initiated by you.
> Perhaps a conversation with the manager, followed by contact with their
> board of directors would be in order.
> If no attention is paid, perhaps a formal complaint should be the next
> step.
> Brian Langlois
>
>  a
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Pepper" <b75205 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] job discrimination
>
>
>  > Well, I just wanted to cite a list of laws to them to explain to them
> and
> > teach them that this man should not be doing this because I don't want to
> > harm the non profit because they do good work but they should not be
> doing
> > this because it is wrong. If this guy continues to do this, someone might
> > just sue them and take them out of business and they do good work and so
> I
> > thought that if I had a list of laws I could go to their boss and say,
> here,
> > you guys have to fix this!
> >
> > Right now I am writing a book for APress explaining how to make documents
> > forms and websites accessible because people just do not know how to do
> this
> > work and I did this with the national voter registration form.  Currently
> > the EAC, the Elections Assistance commission thinks their form is
> accessible
> > but in order to fill it out you have to have the full version of JAWS
> which
> > means that the blind have to pay a poll tax of $1095 to fill out the
> voter
> > registration form. I made it so they can fill it out using Adobe's "Read
> Out
> > Loud" and Microsoft Narrator so the form is accessible to anyone using a
> PC
> > running Windows and it can be filled out in about the same amount of time
> as
> > a person with eyesight and they do not have to set accessibility in Adobe
> > Reader, it is run with their default settings. All of the content is
> > accessible and I can do this in all the languages supported by Adobe
> which
> > is about 40 languages so this can be done worldwide.
> >
> > I had it tested by AFB Tech and the folks at the Jernigan Institute at
> the
> > NFB and Jim Dickson the Vice President of the AAPD presented it to the
> EAC
> > in October.  The NFB is  very much aware of what I can do and I am
> writing
> > this book to explain exactly how to do this work, including how to use
> the
> > software to make these documents, forms and websites so that we can solve
> > this problem and train people properly to do the work!
> >
> > Doing something constructive.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> > I see this discrimination all the time and I trying to fix it.  I think
> that
> > by demonstrating what is wrong and showing how to fix it will shame
> people
> > into action.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Michael Fry <mikefry79 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm really sorry to hear this James.  At times it can be a very tough
> for
> > > people like us.  I want you to know that you're not alone.  Keep a
> stiff
> > > upper lip and a positive attitude, I'm sure something better will come
> > > along.  I don't have much legal advice for you.
> > >
> > > Right now NFB's number one priority should be helping us personally to
> take
> > > advantage of the Fed stimulus plan.  NFB should be having on-line
> > > workshops,
> > > or distributing daily newsletters advising visually impaired people
> about
> > > the best ways to seek gainful employment by taking advantage of the
> > > recent massive infusion of federal funds into the economy.  For
> example,
> > > where was the money most distributed too?  Should we applying for
> state,
> > > county, or municipal jobs?  What non-profits received federal funds?
> What
> > > agencies practice affirmative action and received federal funds?
> Where's
> > > the money going?  Which businesses that are receivng money will be the
> most
> > > likely to hire visually impaired people?  How to use disability
> affirmative
> > > action to our advantage?
> > >
> > > I think there's a tremendous opportunity for us, that we should now
> > > be seizing.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Shane D <chatter8712 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Absolutely the ADA.
> > > >
> > > > On 2/22/09, James Pepper <b75205 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Ok this often happens to me but I found it intersting that the man
> > > > actually
> > > > > said it to my face.  I was applying for a job at a nonprofit and
> the
> > > > hiring
> > > > > person told me that he would not hire me because he was afraid of
> > > > insurance
> > > > > costs.  Of course I have insurance and my insurance is not any more
> > > than
> > > > > anyone else and I am not legally blind, just visually impaired and
> > > > besides
> > > > > that would not affect my insurance costs anyway and of course what
> he
> > > did
> > > > > was about as illegal as you can get!
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to know which laws he broke.  This is in Texas.  Just
> so I
> > > > know
> > > > > what to say the next time this happens and I will write a letter to
> his
> > > > boss
> > > > > telling him what a jerk this guy is and why they need to get rid of
> > > him.
> > > > >
> > > > > James
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