[blindlaw] job discrimination

Tue Feb 24 05:54:09 UTC 2009

Unfortunately, there are many nonprofits that think they are exempt from or 
above the law because they are nonprofits. A letter from an attorney or a 
civil rights complaint won't put an organization out of business and 
sometimes it is the wake-up call that they need.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BRIAN LANGLOIS" <langlois2 at verizon.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] job discrimination


> I wouldn't worry about putting them out of business, they'll survive.
> Also, I'm afraid they would just yes their way through an educational
> conversation initiated by you.
> Perhaps a conversation with the manager, followed by contact with their
> board of directors would be in order.
> If no attention is paid, perhaps a formal complaint should be the next 
> step.
> Brian Langlois
>
> a
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Pepper" <b75205 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] job discrimination
>
>
>> Well, I just wanted to cite a list of laws to them to explain to them and
>> teach them that this man should not be doing this because I don't want to
>> harm the non profit because they do good work but they should not be 
>> doing
>> this because it is wrong. If this guy continues to do this, someone might
>> just sue them and take them out of business and they do good work and so 
>> I
>> thought that if I had a list of laws I could go to their boss and say,
> here,
>> you guys have to fix this!
>>
>> Right now I am writing a book for APress explaining how to make documents
>> forms and websites accessible because people just do not know how to do
> this
>> work and I did this with the national voter registration form.  Currently
>> the EAC, the Elections Assistance commission thinks their form is
> accessible
>> but in order to fill it out you have to have the full version of JAWS
> which
>> means that the blind have to pay a poll tax of $1095 to fill out the 
>> voter
>> registration form. I made it so they can fill it out using Adobe's "Read
> Out
>> Loud" and Microsoft Narrator so the form is accessible to anyone using a
> PC
>> running Windows and it can be filled out in about the same amount of time
> as
>> a person with eyesight and they do not have to set accessibility in Adobe
>> Reader, it is run with their default settings. All of the content is
>> accessible and I can do this in all the languages supported by Adobe 
>> which
>> is about 40 languages so this can be done worldwide.
>>
>> I had it tested by AFB Tech and the folks at the Jernigan Institute at 
>> the
>> NFB and Jim Dickson the Vice President of the AAPD presented it to the 
>> EAC
>> in October.  The NFB is  very much aware of what I can do and I am 
>> writing
>> this book to explain exactly how to do this work, including how to use 
>> the
>> software to make these documents, forms and websites so that we can solve
>> this problem and train people properly to do the work!
>>
>> Doing something constructive.
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> I see this discrimination all the time and I trying to fix it.  I think
> that
>> by demonstrating what is wrong and showing how to fix it will shame 
>> people
>> into action.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Michael Fry <mikefry79 at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm really sorry to hear this James.  At times it can be a very tough
> for
>> > people like us.  I want you to know that you're not alone.  Keep a 
>> > stiff
>> > upper lip and a positive attitude, I'm sure something better will come
>> > along.  I don't have much legal advice for you.
>> >
>> > Right now NFB's number one priority should be helping us personally to
> take
>> > advantage of the Fed stimulus plan.  NFB should be having on-line
>> > workshops,
>> > or distributing daily newsletters advising visually impaired people
> about
>> > the best ways to seek gainful employment by taking advantage of the
>> > recent massive infusion of federal funds into the economy.  For 
>> > example,
>> > where was the money most distributed too?  Should we applying for 
>> > state,
>> > county, or municipal jobs?  What non-profits received federal funds?
> What
>> > agencies practice affirmative action and received federal funds?
> Where's
>> > the money going?  Which businesses that are receivng money will be the
> most
>> > likely to hire visually impaired people?  How to use disability
> affirmative
>> > action to our advantage?
>> >
>> > I think there's a tremendous opportunity for us, that we should now
>> > be seizing.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Shane D <chatter8712 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Absolutely the ADA.
>> > >
>> > > On 2/22/09, James Pepper <b75205 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Ok this often happens to me but I found it intersting that the man
>> > > actually
>> > > > said it to my face.  I was applying for a job at a nonprofit and 
>> > > > the
>> > > hiring
>> > > > person told me that he would not hire me because he was afraid of
>> > > insurance
>> > > > costs.  Of course I have insurance and my insurance is not any more
>> > than
>> > > > anyone else and I am not legally blind, just visually impaired and
>> > > besides
>> > > > that would not affect my insurance costs anyway and of course what
> he
>> > did
>> > > > was about as illegal as you can get!
>> > > >
>> > > > I would like to know which laws he broke.  This is in Texas.  Just
> so I
>> > > know
>> > > > what to say the next time this happens and I will write a letter to
> his
>> > > boss
>> > > > telling him what a jerk this guy is and why they need to get rid of
>> > him.
>> > > >
>> > > > James
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