[blindlaw] The Census does not track the blind

[Steve P. Deeley]

OK, does the US census ask specific questions about the number of blind 
people living in your house?

Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] The Census does not track the blind


> James,
>
> Collecting different data in only some locations is by definition
> INVALID.  You want descriptive statistics.  That's what the census
> is, descriptive statistics.  Unlike inferential statistics, where
> predictions of whole populations are taken from small samples and
> mathematics are used to determine the probability that those
> predictions are true, descriptive statistics are hard data.  The
> census is hard data for the entire population of the United States.
>
> Statistics on SOME people who are blind cannot be done.  Neither can
> it be MOST people.  Unless it is 100% of the population (or much
> greater than 99% that the census bureau has determined to be close
> enough because of the cost and logistics of ensuring that every
> single man, woman, and child is properly counted), then the statistic
> cannot be part of the US census results.
>
> If 10% of the country has been surveyed already, it's far too late.
> In fact, if even 1% of the country has been surveyed, it would be too
> late.
>
> You are single-mindedly pushing for and advocating a lie, claiming it
> to be a civil right.  You have rejected rational explanation of why
> what you insist must be done in fact cannot be at this time.  Your
> only defense of your position is that it must be possible, though you
> have no plan for actually doing so.
>
> I tell you flatly that it is not possible without an immediate halt
> to census-taking and a purge of all data collected to date, followed
> by a media campaign to inform everyone that census data must be
> re-taken in any area that has already been surveyed.  My guess is
> that it would cost hundreds of millions of dollars to do that at this
> point.
>
> The train has left the station.  You weren't on it.  The world will
> not turn back time so that you can board before the final whistle.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 05:28:23PM -0500, James Pepper wrote:
>>It is never too late, and what we need is to bring this up at the
>>convention. We really do not need Oregon's results anyway the census takes
>>data from all over the place and many states do not cooperate with all of
>>the census taking anyway, so whats the problem?
>>
>>Also we should get the AAPD involved in this effort.
>>But what we definitely need is some idea as to how many people are 
>>affected,
>>what is their economic position, did they go to college, did they get a
>>degree, this stuff is essential to developing policy and waiting for this 
>>to
>>happen 10 years from now will not do!
>>
>>This is a civil rights issue and if we go around saying oh no  we cannot
>>upset the apple cart then fine we will go around you.
>>
>>James Pepper
>
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