[blindlaw] ADA and Discovery

Sun Apr 4 20:39:04 UTC 2010

Hello Derek,
I went to this link and the program is not available until April 5.  I am 
curious to know who AFB Consulting is and how they differ from AFB.  Are 
they some sort of division of AFB who Adobe has hired to partner up with for 
this presentation?  Thanks in advance for any information on this question.
Best,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Wilson" <dwilson.lists at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ADA and Discovery

> Hi folks,
>
> This might not answer any questions directly, and may not be relevant
> to handwritten documents, but hopefully the presentation lives up to
> its title, so here it is:
> AFB Consulting and Adobe Present Free Podcast: Debunking the Myth of
> PDF Inaccessibility
> http://bit.ly/c42uGw
>
> Note: Google does not allow users to send messages in HTML, so
> you may need to copy and paste the above link into your browser.
>
> Regards,
>
> Derek Wilson
> Email: career.practitioner at gmail.com
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>
>
>
> On 4/4/10, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> wrote:
>> John, I remember once I had jury duty, and I called three weeks ahead of
>> time, and told my circuits disability person that I had jury duty. 
>> Unknown
>> to me, My mother wrote, "I'm totaly blind please excuse on my jury form." 
>> It
>> was realy imbarising. Now I'm told I'm incompantant to serve as a jurer 
>> do
>> to the fact my doctor wrote a note stating I am blind. This happened 
>> serval
>> years ago. What if anything should I have done at the time? RJ
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Ramsey" <joramsey at cox.net>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ADA and Discovery
>>
>>
>>> That is one of the problems when they scan an image of the original
>>> handwritten document and do not title the image in a way that a blind
>>> practitioner is going to have knowledge of that document in a timely
>>> manner.
>>> I think that the overall issue is whether or not the State is required 
>>> or
>>> should be required to provide the text documents in an accessible 
>>> format.
>>> I
>>> am sure the ultimate answer is yes.
>>>
>>>
>>> John A. Ramsey Jr., P.A.
>>>
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>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:10 AM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] ADA and Discovery
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have access to Kurzweil or Open Book software those files can be
>>> sent
>>>
>>> through those programs and reade. Most likely the files were scanned in 
>>> to
>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>> PDF document and they are images. The only problem that will occur is if
>>> the
>>>
>>> documents contain hand-written pages as they will not be recognized by 
>>> OCR
>>> software.
>>> Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
>>> 1237 P Street
>>> Fresno ca 93721
>>> 559-266-9237
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Ramsey" <joramsey at cox.net>
>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 12:34 PM
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] ADA and Discovery
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello All of the Criminal practitioners on the list,
>>>> I practice criminal law here in Florida and have encountered a
>>>> problem.
>>>> When
>>>> the State and Public Defender's Offices are providing me with 
>>>> documents,
>>>> they are in a PDF that JAWS reads as blank. As you can imagine the
>>>> default
>>>> titles of the PDF files can basically nullify any real attempts to
>>>> discover
>>>> what the document is. My question is: has anyone had to challenge the
>>>> form
>>>> of discovery under the ADA? If so, what was the outcome?
>>>> Cordially,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John A. Ramsey Jr., P.A.
>>>>
>>>> P.O. Box 6063
>>>>
>>>> Gainesville, FL 32627
>>>>
>>>> Phone: (352) 505-6642
>>>>
>>>> Fax: (352) 240-6453
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This communication contains information that may be confidential
>>>> and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the
>>>> individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you have received
>>>> this communication in error, please call us at (352) 505-6642 and
>>>> destroy any associated printed materials and delete the electronic
>>>> material from any computer. Please be aware that any unauthorized
>>>> disclosure, use or publication of this communication or the
>>>> information it contains may result in criminal and/or civil liability.
>>>> Due to this message being transmitted over the Internet, John Ramsey
>>>> cannot assure that the messages are secure.  If you are uncomfortable
>>>> with such risks, you may decide not to use email to communicate with
>>>> John Ramsey.  Please contact us immediately at (352) 505-6642 if you
>>>> decide not to use email.  You must also be aware that email
>>>> messages may be delayed or undelivered through circumstances beyond our
>>>> control.  Thank you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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