[blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind

Chris Danielsen cdanielsen8 at aol.com
Sat Aug 7 16:39:28 UTC 2010


Recently I heard of a company, Gogo In Flight, that solved the inaccessible
visual captcha problem with logic questions instead of an audio captcha.
These were very simple questions that would require a human response, such
as: If today is Tuesday, what was yesterday? Or: Of the numbers 3, 9, 5, 14,
7, which is the largest? Or: Of cow, rose, or horse, which is not an animal?
Of course I guess this approach might not work for people with some forms of
intellectual or developmental disability. So it's possible that there is no
perfect captcha solution. But that one at least addresses the concerns of
both blind and deaf users, or of deaf-blind ones.

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 8:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind

Hello Charles and everyone,

And what if this person is both blind and deaf? The folks who develop these
CAPTCHA solving solutions need to consider this population too.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind


as long as there are alternatives to solve the captcha such as audio captcha
or use of other services such as Solona or Web Vizum they are not breaking
the law. As blind professionals we need to look toward using alternatives to
solve these types of problems and the alternatives are out there for us to
use.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind


> Derek,
>
> Interesting that they even make it a random test.  There are other sites
> that do this type of thing and it is not fair appropriate for any of them
> to do so.  This needs to change, for the sake of all blind people.
>
> Are they breaking the law by doing this test?
>
>
> Tom
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Derek Wilson" <dwilson.lists at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>
>
>> If you are wondering why sometimes LinkedIn prompts you with a captcha
>> and
>> sometimes not, you may want to read on:
>>
>> QUOTE
>>
>> Security Verification Prompts
>> Why am I sometimes prompted for my password or to type in characters from
>> an
>> image shown on the security verification screen?
>>
>> LinkedIn is committed to protecting the privacy and security of our
>> members'
>> information and maintaining the mutual trust we share with our community.
>>
>> As part of our proactive efforts to keep our members and community safe
>> from
>> real and perceived threats, we vigorously monitor site activity. At
>> various
>> points in the LinkedIn site, you may be prompted to re-enter your
>> password
>> or you may be asked to type in distorted letters or numbers presented in
>> a
>> security challenge. CAPTCHA (Completely Automated Public Turing test to
>> tell
>> Computers and Humans Apart) is a security method commonly used by
>> websites.
>> This feature helps to distinguish human attempts to access the site from
>> automatic, computer-generated attempts to access the site, a technique
>> typically used by spammers.
>>
>> At various times, you could experience an increase in CAPTCHA prompts. To
>> reduce the number of times you see the security challenge during the day,
>> you might consider the following actions:
>>
>>   1. Enable cookies on your browser. (See your browser's help section.)
>>   2. Ensure that you don't sign out each time you use LinkedIn during the
>> day. We will remember your last login for a period of time which will
>> allow
>> you to bypass the login sequence (including the CAPTCHA prompt). We do
>> recommend that you sign out at the end of each day.
>>
>> If you have difficulty distinguishing a particular CAPTCHA image, you can
>> click on the "Try a different image" link. Audio CAPTCHA is also
>> available
>> by clicking the audio icon found on the "Security Verification" page.
>> Source:
>>
http://linkedin.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/linkedin.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_
>> faqid=3065
>>
>> The catch is, at least for me, that I cannot find the audio icon.  This
>> means I cannot accesss my account - even with a password.  This issue
>> will
>> persist - especially for the totally blind - until it is addressed by
>> LinkedIn.
>>
>> END QUOTE
>>
>> If you are on Twitter, I encourage you to pressure @LinkedIn to get their
>> act together. See: http://ow.ly/2lKvs & http://ow.ly/2lKxU
>>
>> Regards,
>> Derek
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 12:37 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>>
>> Hello Chris and everyone,
>>
>>    Upon reading the posts about this I checked for myself and was
>> automatically logged in. Linked-In worked as it always does.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Danielsen" <cdanielsen8 at aol.com>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>>
>>
>> I wonder if this is only a problem with new accounts or only happens
>> sometimes? Someone else on this list raised this issue last week but I
>> was
>> able to log into my own account with no problem.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:34 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>>
>> Can you hit Control to silence JAWS?
>>
>> Ah, the advantages of an external synth!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:09 AM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>>
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I received an invitation to connect to colleagues from the past through
>>> www.LinkedIn.com.  I have used LinkedIn in the past and been able to get
>>> around with only a few problems.  It appears that they have added
>>> real-time verification to the login process on top of the normal
>>> username
>>> and password.  They do offer the ability to have the image that they
>>> present for real[-time verification, but the text is spoken at the same
>>> time that JAWS announces the popup window.  This seems to me to be a
>>> barrier and was not there the last time that I logged in to my account.
>>>
>>> Does anyone else on here use LinkedIn?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
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