[blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind

WB mruniverse08 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 12 14:41:02 UTC 2010 

OK...this trail has gone on endlessly.  Has anyone tried actually calling or
contacting support?  Maybe you should gather a group of people who could
call in with the same complaint.  Nitpicking it here in the group is not
going to accomplish anything.  Obviously some here have said they are not
having an issue.  Try contacting those people to get a step by step idea of
what they are doing.  I've seen at least two people say they are not having
or have gotten around the problem.  Have you tried that at least?  Try that
and then come back with some sort of plan for those who wish to complain to
Linked In and those who wish will complain.

I know this is not my group but the same thing is being repeated endlessly
and it doesn't seem that you've attempted to get around the problem or find
a solution from what others have said.

My apologies if this has offended anyone.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Tom Ladis
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:40 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind

Hello all,

I do not mean any offense at all, but it seems that people are willing to 
accept things like this as ok even though they are unnecessarily complicated

and  barriers, and they add to the frustrations of using the internet when 
blind.  If they are going to present barriers then they should have to 
present  an easy way around the barriers for human operators but still make 
it difficult for automated systems.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, and if we are willing to accept these 
things then we will be presented with more and more barriers as security 
becomes more and more of a concern.

Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind


>I just listen to it a couple of times and tap the control key after getting
> the link.  I can usually silence window eyes.  Maybe need to repeat it a
> couple of times.
>
> Steve
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>
>
>> My problem on LinkedIn is similar to what you have set up not.  There is 
>> a
>> jumbled string that can be read by clicking on a link, but JAWS announces
>> the new window opening at the same time, which makes the reading of the
>> string a problem either way.
>>
>> Basically, my point is that this sets up a barrier to those who do not
>> know
>> how to work around screen readers talking at the same time or know about
>> and
>> using a third party tool to read the string.  In the case of Home Depot, 
>> I
>> encountered a screen where there was no link to have the string read out
>> loud.  This is a bigger barrier.
>>
>> These barriers are going to get worse and become standard operating
>> procedure for web developers unless something is done to cause change in
>> this area.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom Ladis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>>
>>
>>> Ok, you guys are talking way over my head.  I've been following this
>>> discussion closely.  My credit union, there online banking services, use
>>> a
>>> verbal code link.  I'm able to click on a link for a verbal code and 
>>> fill
>>> in
>>> the box.  after several discussions with them, the company running the
>>> online banking service was able to create this link which gives you a
>>> verbal
>>> code.  Is this the problem with LinkedIn?
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The Blind
>>>
>>>
>>>> Do the new laws being discussed in Congress address this as an
>>>> accessibility
>>>> issue?  I went to the Home Depot website and was not able to complete 
>>>> my
>>>> order after spending 30 minutes or so shopping and creating an account.
>>>> They are also presenting some garbled text that I could not get past,
>>>> even
>>>> with a handheld CCTV.  They did not even offer a way to have the text
>>>> read
>>>> out loud.
>>>>
>>>> I expect that this will become more and more popular among the
>>>> developers
>>>> and more and more of a problem for blind people.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 2:57 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The 
>>>> Blind
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have visited sites where that form of question was used and it was
>>>>>totally accessible for screen reader users. There are also other sites
>>>>>where the captcha code is shown and it can be selected and copied and
>>>>>pasted in to the form field to be entered.
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Chris Danielsen" <cdanielsen8 at aol.com>
>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:39 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>> Blind
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Recently I heard of a company, Gogo In Flight, that solved the
>>>>>> inaccessible
>>>>>> visual captcha problem with logic questions instead of an audio
>>>>>> captcha.
>>>>>> These were very simple questions that would require a human response,
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> as: If today is Tuesday, what was yesterday? Or: Of the numbers 3, 9,
>>>>>> 5,
>>>>>> 14,
>>>>>> 7, which is the largest? Or: Of cow, rose, or horse, which is not an
>>>>>> animal?
>>>>>> Of course I guess this approach might not work for people with some
>>>>>> forms
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> intellectual or developmental disability. So it's possible that there
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> perfect captcha solution. But that one at least addresses the 
>>>>>> concerns
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> both blind and deaf users, or of deaf-blind ones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 8:44 PM
>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Charles and everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what if this person is both blind and deaf? The folks who develop
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> CAPTCHA solving solutions need to consider this population too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 7:17 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as long as there are alternatives to solve the captcha such as audio
>>>>>> captcha
>>>>>> or use of other services such as Solona or Web Vizum they are not
>>>>>> breaking
>>>>>> the law. As blind professionals we need to look toward using
>>>>>> alternatives
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> solve these types of problems and the alternatives are out there for
>>>>>> us
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> use.
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 8:54 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Derek,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting that they even make it a random test.  There are other
>>>>>>> sites
>>>>>>> that do this type of thing and it is not fair appropriate for any of
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> to do so.  This needs to change, for the sake of all blind people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are they breaking the law by doing this test?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Derek Wilson" <dwilson.lists at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:13 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are wondering why sometimes LinkedIn prompts you with a
>>>>>>>> captcha
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> sometimes not, you may want to read on:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> QUOTE
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Security Verification Prompts
>>>>>>>> Why am I sometimes prompted for my password or to type in 
>>>>>>>> characters
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> image shown on the security verification screen?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LinkedIn is committed to protecting the privacy and security of our
>>>>>>>> members'
>>>>>>>> information and maintaining the mutual trust we share with our
>>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As part of our proactive efforts to keep our members and community
>>>>>>>> safe
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> real and perceived threats, we vigorously monitor site activity. At
>>>>>>>> various
>>>>>>>> points in the LinkedIn site, you may be prompted to re-enter your
>>>>>>>> password
>>>>>>>> or you may be asked to type in distorted letters or numbers
>>>>>>>> presented
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> security challenge. CAPTCHA (Completely Automated Public Turing 
>>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>> Computers and Humans Apart) is a security method commonly used by
>>>>>>>> websites.
>>>>>>>> This feature helps to distinguish human attempts to access the site
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> automatic, computer-generated attempts to access the site, a
>>>>>>>> technique
>>>>>>>> typically used by spammers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At various times, you could experience an increase in CAPTCHA
>>>>>>>> prompts.
>>>>>>>> To
>>>>>>>> reduce the number of times you see the security challenge during 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> day,
>>>>>>>> you might consider the following actions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   1. Enable cookies on your browser. (See your browser's help
>>>>>>>> section.)
>>>>>>>>   2. Ensure that you don't sign out each time you use LinkedIn
>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> day. We will remember your last login for a period of time which
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>> you to bypass the login sequence (including the CAPTCHA prompt). We
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> recommend that you sign out at the end of each day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have difficulty distinguishing a particular CAPTCHA image,
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> click on the "Try a different image" link. Audio CAPTCHA is also
>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>> by clicking the audio icon found on the "Security Verification"
>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://linkedin.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/linkedin.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_
>>>>>>>> faqid=3065
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The catch is, at least for me, that I cannot find the audio icon.
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> means I cannot accesss my account - even with a password.  This
>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> persist - especially for the totally blind - until it is addressed
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> LinkedIn.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> END QUOTE
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are on Twitter, I encourage you to pressure @LinkedIn to get
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> act together. See: http://ow.ly/2lKvs & http://ow.ly/2lKxU
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Derek
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 12:37 PM
>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Chris and everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Upon reading the posts about this I checked for myself and was
>>>>>>>> automatically logged in. Linked-In worked as it always does.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Chris Danielsen" <cdanielsen8 at aol.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:13 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder if this is only a problem with new accounts or only 
>>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>>> sometimes? Someone else on this list raised this issue last week 
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> able to log into my own account with no problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:34 AM
>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The
>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you hit Control to silence JAWS?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ah, the advantages of an external synth!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Tom Ladis" <tom at tomladis.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:09 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] LinkedIn Has Been Made Inaccessible To The 
>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I received an invitation to connect to colleagues from the past
>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>> www.LinkedIn.com.  I have used LinkedIn in the past and been able
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> around with only a few problems.  It appears that they have added
>>>>>>>>> real-time verification to the login process on top of the normal
>>>>>>>>> username
>>>>>>>>> and password.  They do offer the ability to have the image that
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> present for real[-time verification, but the text is spoken at the
>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>> time that JAWS announces the popup window.  This seems to me to be
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> barrier and was not there the last time that I logged in to my
>>>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone else on here use LinkedIn?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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