[blindlaw] petition

Tue Jan 12 09:03:11 UTC 2010

How about we not have only NFB facilities.  I am a member of the local NFB
chapter but I don't believe their whole philosophy about blindness.  There
are some great points and there are some very strange ones.  

I agree that the NFB should pay but the fact is that they're not.  They are
tied in with many of the state agencies across the country.

So, if a person needs to get the state to pay for that institution, then
they should go for it.  Rather than state agencies wasting money on
frivolous things, they need to reorient their budget.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:33 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] petition

You want blind individuals from those states having a blindness center, 
funded by tax payer dollars, to be able to attend NFB centers at those same 
tax payers expense.  That is just not right or fiscally possible..  If the 
NFB wants these clients from states with blindness centers in place to 
attend NFB centers, they should establish scholarships or pay the way with 
NFB funding.  The budgets' of states are stretched to the limit.  States 
with blindness centers should not pay for clients to attend NFB centers. 
There is a limited amount of resources in their budgets.  That is like 
saying a state agency should have to fund a education for a consumer to 
attend Harvard if the student could qualify.  Again, there limitedf 
resources to work with in these cases.  If a consumer wants to attend a 
private college, they need to pay the difference or get scholarships to 
makeup the difference from what a state agency is able to pay.  Usually, 
state agencies will pay for blind consumers to attend in-state institutions.

You want an expensive college or an out of state college, you must make up 
the difference.  The same should go for the consumer attending a NFB center 
if his or her state has a blindness center.

Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Pepper" <b75205 at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] petition

> Go down to your local member of Congress office and complain to them in
> person.  Thats how you do things.  Everything else is really not going to 
> do
> much.
>
> You have to talk to the staff tell them what is going on.  Tell them why 
> it
> doesn't work explain it to them because they have no idea why things do 
> not
> work, they are not in your shoes.
>
> James
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:14 PM, <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> There have been allegations that in some states the state agency does not
>> want to pay for residents to go to out of state rehab centers such as the
>> NFB centers and rehab clients have had to request hearings and other 
>> things
>> to be have the fees paid.
>>
>> Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
>> 1237 P Street
>> Fresno ca 93721
>> 559-266-9237
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Dubin" <mdubin at pobox.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] petition
>>
>>
>>   The petition reads: "Blind consumers working with federal state 
>> agencies
>>> for the blind and Visually Impaired should be allowed to attend National
>>> Federation of the blind training centers and they should be fully paid 
>>> for
>>> by said agencies in the U.S.A. Please rewrite...."
>>> Would someone please explain to me what the problem is that is being
>>> experienced?
>>> How are they being denied the right to attend NFB Training Centers?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> marc
>>>
>>>
>>> Marc Dubin, Esq.
>>> Director of Advocacy, Center for Independent Living of South Florida
>>> mdubin at pobox.com
>>> Mobile: 305-896-3000
>>> Fax: 877-731-3030
>>> www.victimswithdisabilities.org
>>> Chair, Florida Bar Disability Law Committee
>>> http://disabilitylawcommittee.blogspot.com/
>>> Former Senior Trial Attorney, U.S. Department of Justice 1993-2005
>>> www.ada.gov
>>> Former Special Counsel, Office on Violence Against Women, USDOJ
>>> www.ovw.usdoj.gov/overview.htm
>>> Founder & Executive Director, CAVNET    www.cavnet.org
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:08 AM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] petition
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, petitions put forth on Internet sites like this have 
>>> little
>>> if any real effect with Congress. It is much more effective to use a
>>> system
>>> of actual letters that can electronically be submitted to members of
>>> Congress and/or state legislators. Working with many groups as a
>>> consultant
>>> on legislative issues I have raised this issue previously. While 
>>> consumers
>>> definitely need a choice and self empowerment to attend facilities of
>>> their
>>> choice for rehabilitation the Rehab Act of 1973 or any other legislation
>>> will not get rewritten using this format.
>>> Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
>>> 1237 P Street
>>> Fresno ca 93721
>>> 559-266-9237
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Alexander Scott Kaiser"
>>> <MisterAlexanderScottKaiser10301990 at gmx.com>
>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 12:43 AM
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] petition
>>>
>>>
>>> please read and sign
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
http://www.petition2congress.com/2/2768/rewriting-us-rehabilitation-act-1973
/
>>>>     Quick
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