[blindlaw] petition

Tue Jan 12 15:39:38 UTC 2010

With the budgets at this time, we can't afford it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WB" <mruniverse08 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] petition


> How about we not have only NFB facilities.  I am a member of the local NFB
> chapter but I don't believe their whole philosophy about blindness.  There
> are some great points and there are some very strange ones.
>
> I agree that the NFB should pay but the fact is that they're not.  They 
> are
> tied in with many of the state agencies across the country.
>
> So, if a person needs to get the state to pay for that institution, then
> they should go for it.  Rather than state agencies wasting money on
> frivolous things, they need to reorient their budget.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:33 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] petition
>
> You want blind individuals from those states having a blindness center,
> funded by tax payer dollars, to be able to attend NFB centers at those 
> same
> tax payers expense.  That is just not right or fiscally possible..  If the
> NFB wants these clients from states with blindness centers in place to
> attend NFB centers, they should establish scholarships or pay the way with
> NFB funding.  The budgets' of states are stretched to the limit.  States
> with blindness centers should not pay for clients to attend NFB centers.
> There is a limited amount of resources in their budgets.  That is like
> saying a state agency should have to fund a education for a consumer to
> attend Harvard if the student could qualify.  Again, there limitedf
> resources to work with in these cases.  If a consumer wants to attend a
> private college, they need to pay the difference or get scholarships to
> makeup the difference from what a state agency is able to pay.  Usually,
> state agencies will pay for blind consumers to attend in-state 
> institutions.
>
> You want an expensive college or an out of state college, you must make up
> the difference.  The same should go for the consumer attending a NFB 
> center
> if his or her state has a blindness center.
>
> Steve
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "James Pepper" <b75205 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] petition
>
>
>> Go down to your local member of Congress office and complain to them in
>> person.  Thats how you do things.  Everything else is really not going to
>> do
>> much.
>>
>> You have to talk to the staff tell them what is going on.  Tell them why
>> it
>> doesn't work explain it to them because they have no idea why things do
>> not
>> work, they are not in your shoes.
>>
>> James
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:14 PM, <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> There have been allegations that in some states the state agency does 
>>> not
>>> want to pay for residents to go to out of state rehab centers such as 
>>> the
>>> NFB centers and rehab clients have had to request hearings and other
>>> things
>>> to be have the fees paid.
>>>
>>> Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
>>> 1237 P Street
>>> Fresno ca 93721
>>> 559-266-9237
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Dubin" <mdubin at pobox.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:26 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] petition
>>>
>>>
>>>   The petition reads: "Blind consumers working with federal state
>>> agencies
>>>> for the blind and Visually Impaired should be allowed to attend 
>>>> National
>>>> Federation of the blind training centers and they should be fully paid
>>>> for
>>>> by said agencies in the U.S.A. Please rewrite...."
>>>> Would someone please explain to me what the problem is that is being
>>>> experienced?
>>>> How are they being denied the right to attend NFB Training Centers?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> marc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marc Dubin, Esq.
>>>> Director of Advocacy, Center for Independent Living of South Florida
>>>> mdubin at pobox.com
>>>> Mobile: 305-896-3000
>>>> Fax: 877-731-3030
>>>> www.victimswithdisabilities.org
>>>> Chair, Florida Bar Disability Law Committee
>>>> http://disabilitylawcommittee.blogspot.com/
>>>> Former Senior Trial Attorney, U.S. Department of Justice 1993-2005
>>>> www.ada.gov
>>>> Former Special Counsel, Office on Violence Against Women, USDOJ
>>>> www.ovw.usdoj.gov/overview.htm
>>>> Founder & Executive Director, CAVNET    www.cavnet.org
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:08 AM
>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] petition
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, petitions put forth on Internet sites like this have
>>>> little
>>>> if any real effect with Congress. It is much more effective to use a
>>>> system
>>>> of actual letters that can electronically be submitted to members of
>>>> Congress and/or state legislators. Working with many groups as a
>>>> consultant
>>>> on legislative issues I have raised this issue previously. While
>>>> consumers
>>>> definitely need a choice and self empowerment to attend facilities of
>>>> their
>>>> choice for rehabilitation the Rehab Act of 1973 or any other 
>>>> legislation
>>>> will not get rewritten using this format.
>>>> Chuck Krugman, M.S.W., Paralegal
>>>> 1237 P Street
>>>> Fresno ca 93721
>>>> 559-266-9237
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Alexander Scott Kaiser"
>>>> <MisterAlexanderScottKaiser10301990 at gmx.com>
>>>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 12:43 AM
>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] petition
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> please read and sign
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
> http://www.petition2congress.com/2/2768/rewriting-us-rehabilitation-act-1973
> /
>>>>>     Quick
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