[blindlaw] UpDate on Linkedin website:

Sun Sep 12 07:48:56 UTC 2010

Good evening Mark,

I'm not suggesting that there needs to be a single solution, but I am suggesting that, as you have stated, there are cases where it would be an undue burden to implement all solutions required to make the verification possible.

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On 2010-09-12, at 3:36 AM, Marc Workman wrote:

> The mistake here seems to be in thinking that a single solution has to be implemented.  There probably is no single solution that will allow every human being, and no computer, to varify that an actual person is entering the information.
> 
> Why not have several options? Why not have a visual option, an audio option, a logic option, a phone in option, and any other option that is necessary without constituting an undo hardship?
> 
> I realize that for some companies this would be burdensome, but for the larger companies, this is simply a matter of providing a reasonable accommodation.
> 
> We need to stop thinking in terms of a single solution.  It just isn't out there, but this doesn't mean a multi-pronged approach won't work.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Marc
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.J. Zufelt" <lists at zufelt.ca>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] UpDate on Linkedin website:
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> 
>> I have to agree here.  In canada we have the concept of reasonable accommodation, providing a reasonable accommodation cannot be an undue burden on the respondent in a human rights action.
>> 
>> So, if a site were only making an audio, or only a visual, CAPTCHA available, I would argue that they should make both available as a reasonable accommodation.  This would likely not be an undue burden. However, ensuring that their security mechanism works for * all * Internet users, and still provides security, is impossible. Therefore, it would, in my opinion, constitute an undue burden.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Everett Zufelt
>> http://zufelt.ca
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>> 
>> On 2010-09-11, at 5:14 PM, Jorge Paez wrote:
>> 
>>> Peter:
>>> You can't sue them.
>>> Its a security mesure that fits the greater majority--from the standpoint of someone who studies law closely, you cannot sue them for such particular things. Not saying weather you're right or wrong, but it wouldn't be legally possible.
>>> 
>>> Jorge
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>>> 
>>>>  It has been pointed out that so far no one has issued a legal challenge
>>>> to the use of CAPTCHAS and the accessibility problems they cause. Perhaps a
>>>> good law suit is just what the doctor ordered to spur developers in to
>>>> action to create new methods of spam and bot control that protects Internet
>>>> infrastructures while insuring accessibility for all. All I can say is bring
>>>> it on! I also wish to apologies to Scott, David and others for this
>>>> off-topic thread. All the best for a great weekend.
>>>> 
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." <ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] UpDate on Linkedin website:
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>>>> 
>>>> Hello Mr. Zufelt:
>>>> 
>>>> Here in Denver, we have the U.S. Mint that prints virtually all the coins
>>>> used in the United States.
>>>> 
>>>> In order to take a tour of the Mint, one has to schedule a date on the
>>>> Mint's website.  The last few I have scheduled, a random number is generated
>>>> and I was asked to enter the number into an edit box.  I was able to READ
>>>> THE GENERATED NUMBER for myself without assistance from a third party, and I
>>>> DID NOT have to use any audio.
>>>> 
>>>> This type of CAPTCHA is, in my view, far more accessible than the GARBLED
>>>> audio types I have had to deal with.  No, I am NOT HEARING IMPAIRED; but
>>>> those GARBLED AUDIO thingies can be a ROYAL pain one million percent of the
>>>> time.  To be succinct, I detest them!
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Olusegun
>>>> Denver, Colorado
>>>> 
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