[blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams

Steve P. Deeley stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
Sat Sep 25 21:18:07 UTC 2010


It would be interesting to know how that figure was calculated and 
finalized.\
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracey Haynes" <tlfields2 at charter.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams


> Hi,
>
> I was not a law student but do Have a Master's degree, and I was always 
> told
> that the law provides time and a half for vision impaired students on all
> college and standardized testing.  Now, that could be the school's policy 
> or
> it could have come down from higher powers.  I am assuming it came from
> elsewhere, though, since it applied to standardized tests as well.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:43 AM
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
>
>> Good for you?  How was the extra amount of time period arrived at?
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Ramsey" <joramsey at cox.net>
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>> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
>>
>>
>>>I had a two day bar exam and was granted time and a half as an
>>> accommodation, but I did not actually use all of the time provided
>>> because
>>> I
>>> had an excellent reader.
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of ray wayne
>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:50 PM
>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
>>>
>>>
>>> Back in my day we had two twelve hour days, three if we were taking too
>>> states at a time, or California. And we started at 6:00 in the morning
>>> and
>>> went until 6:00 at night. And that's the way it was, and we liked it! We
>>> loved it! Smile!
>>> Grumpy Old Blind Man
>>> PS: based on and old Saturday Night Live sketch.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Blaine Deutscher <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Date: Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 8:57:13
>>> Subject: Re: [bllaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what it's like in the sattes but isn't the bar a two day
>>>> process? do blind people get time and a half to write the exam or how
>>>> does
>>>
>>>> that work? It's something to look into now as I'm always trying to make
>>>> lives better for future students so if I speak with the law school in
>>>> Saskatchewan they might have some blind people before me that have gone
>>>> through and whatever system they used worked. I know some people will
>>>> say
>>>> "blind people before you went through without technology so what did
>>>> they
>>>> do?" My response to that is yes they did but now that technology is
>>>> there
>>>> and we are using it more exams should be easier to take. I'm waiting 
>>>> for
>>> the
>>>> day that a blind person can keep up with his classmates with the four
>>>> courses or whatever it takes to be done the same time that they are.
>>>>
>>>> Blaine
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Kate Carroll" <carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:52 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [bllaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Aser. I was not aware that I might be going through the
>>>> exact same thing with the Bar.
>>>>
>>>> Kate
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Aser Tolentino
>>>> <agtolentino at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> > My school and the CA bar use ExamSoft. While I've heard talk of
>>>> > greater accessibility now, at the time I started law school three
>>>> > years ago it was not possible to run a screen reader alongside the
>>>> > software; I confirmed this with the sample test and by speaking to
>>>> > the school's IT department. My advice would be to request the school
>>>> > forgo your use of the software as a testing accommodation. The issue
>>>> > will come up again when you take the bar and could be more
>>>> > contentious then.
>>>> >
>>>> > Best,
>>>> > Aser
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Kate Carroll
>>>> > <carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Good evening everyone!
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I am looking for some advice concerning law school exams. If
>>>> > > anyone has
>>>> > any
>>>> > > thoughts on my question, i would greatly appreciate hearing them.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I am in my first year of law school. I currently use a Dell
>>>> > > Latitutde
>>>> > with
>>>> > > Windows 7, and ZoomText for magnification and reading. I will have
>>>> > > to
>>>> > > use
>>>> > > the software Exambled for my upcoming exams. I have heard that this
>>>> > > software
>>>> > > will likely prevent ZoomText (and possibly the built-in Windows
>>>> > > magnification program) from working if I attempt to use them during
>>>> > > an
>>>> > > exam.
>>>> > > I havent actually tested the problem with the tech guys at the
>>>> > > school
>>>> > > because I need to get a Zoomtext license and right now don't have
>>>> > Zoomtext
>>>> > > on my laptop.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Does anyone have experience with this Exambled software, and is a
>>>> > > user of ZoomText? What did you do to get around this (alleged)
>>>> > > problem? Any
>>>> > ideas,
>>>> > > again, are welcome.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks,
>>>> > > Kate
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
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