[blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams

Tracey Haynes tlfields2 at charter.net
Sat Sep 25 19:27:35 UTC 2010


Hi,

I was not a law student but do Have a Master's degree, and I was always told 
that the law provides time and a half for vision impaired students on all 
college and standardized testing.  Now, that could be the school's policy or 
it could have come down from higher powers.  I am assuming it came from 
elsewhere, though, since it applied to standardized tests as well.

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From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams

> Good for you?  How was the extra amount of time period arrived at?
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>>I had a two day bar exam and was granted time and a half as an
>> accommodation, but I did not actually use all of the time provided 
>> because
>> I
>> had an excellent reader.
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>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of ray wayne
>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:50 PM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
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>>
>> Back in my day we had two twelve hour days, three if we were taking too
>> states at a time, or California. And we started at 6:00 in the morning 
>> and
>> went until 6:00 at night. And that's the way it was, and we liked it! We
>> loved it! Smile!
>> Grumpy Old Blind Man
>> PS: based on and old Saturday Night Live sketch.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Blaine Deutscher <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 8:57:13
>> Subject: Re: [bllaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what it's like in the sattes but isn't the bar a two day
>>> process? do blind people get time and a half to write the exam or how
>>> does
>>
>>> that work? It's something to look into now as I'm always trying to make
>>> lives better for future students so if I speak with the law school in
>>> Saskatchewan they might have some blind people before me that have gone
>>> through and whatever system they used worked. I know some people will 
>>> say
>>> "blind people before you went through without technology so what did 
>>> they
>>> do?" My response to that is yes they did but now that technology is 
>>> there
>>> and we are using it more exams should be easier to take. I'm waiting for
>> the
>>> day that a blind person can keep up with his classmates with the four
>>> courses or whatever it takes to be done the same time that they are.
>>>
>>> Blaine
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kate Carroll" <carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [bllaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
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>>>
>>> Thank you Aser. I was not aware that I might be going through the
>>> exact same thing with the Bar.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Aser Tolentino
>>> <agtolentino at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> > My school and the CA bar use ExamSoft. While I've heard talk of
>>> > greater accessibility now, at the time I started law school three
>>> > years ago it was not possible to run a screen reader alongside the
>>> > software; I confirmed this with the sample test and by speaking to
>>> > the school's IT department. My advice would be to request the school
>>> > forgo your use of the software as a testing accommodation. The issue
>>> > will come up again when you take the bar and could be more
>>> > contentious then.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Aser
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Kate Carroll
>>> > <carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Good evening everyone!
>>> > >
>>> > > I am looking for some advice concerning law school exams. If
>>> > > anyone has
>>> > any
>>> > > thoughts on my question, i would greatly appreciate hearing them.
>>> > >
>>> > > I am in my first year of law school. I currently use a Dell
>>> > > Latitutde
>>> > with
>>> > > Windows 7, and ZoomText for magnification and reading. I will have
>>> > > to
>>> > > use
>>> > > the software Exambled for my upcoming exams. I have heard that this
>>> > > software
>>> > > will likely prevent ZoomText (and possibly the built-in Windows
>>> > > magnification program) from working if I attempt to use them during
>>> > > an
>>> > > exam.
>>> > > I havent actually tested the problem with the tech guys at the 
>>> > > school
>>> > > because I need to get a Zoomtext license and right now don't have
>>> > Zoomtext
>>> > > on my laptop.
>>> > >
>>> > > Does anyone have experience with this Exambled software, and is a
>>> > > user of ZoomText? What did you do to get around this (alleged)
>>> > > problem? Any
>>> > ideas,
>>> > > again, are welcome.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks,
>>> > > Kate
>>> > >
>>> > > --
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