[blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams

Steve P. Deeley stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
Sat Sep 25 21:19:07 UTC 2010


That is cool!  I guess working in the criminal arena is quite interesting?
Steve
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>I practice criminal law as a primary practice, but I ocassionally work in
> the family law arena.
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> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 1:28 PM
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>  Sounds reasonable.What type of law do you practice?  Do you work on your
> own or have in a large firm?
> Steve
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> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:46 AM
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>>I requested the extra time and that was basically the amount arrived at
>>for  previous blind students. I also had the same amount of time during
>>law  school exams.
>>
>> John A. Ramsey Jr., P.A.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
>> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:44 AM
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>> Good for you?  How was the extra amount of time period arrived at?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Ramsey" <joramsey at cox.net>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
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>>>I had a two day bar exam and was granted time and a half as an
>>>accommodation, but I did not actually use all of the time provided
>>>because  I  had an excellent reader.
>>>
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>>> On Behalf Of ray wayne
>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:50 PM
>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
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>>>
>>> Back in my day we had two twelve hour days, three if we were taking
>>> too states at a time, or California. And we started at 6:00 in the
>>> morning and went until 6:00 at night. And that's the way it was, and
>>> we liked it! We loved it! Smile! Grumpy Old Blind Man
>>> PS: based on and old Saturday Night Live sketch.
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Blaine Deutscher <b.m.deutscher at sasktel.net>
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Date: Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 8:57:13
>>> Subject: Re: [bllaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what it's like in the sattes but isn't the bar a two
>>>> day process? do blind people get time and a half to write the exam
>>>> or how does
>>>
>>>> that work? It's something to look into now as I'm always trying to
>>>> make lives better for future students so if I speak with the law
>>>> school in Saskatchewan they might have some blind people before me
>>>> that have gone through and whatever system they used worked. I know
>>>> some people will say "blind people before you went through without
>>>> technology so what did they do?" My response to that is yes they did
>>>> but now that technology is there and we are using it more exams
>>>> should be easier to take. I'm waiting for
>>> the
>>>> day that a blind person can keep up with his classmates with the
>>>> four courses or whatever it takes to be done the same time that they
>>>> are.
>>>>
>>>> Blaine
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Kate Carroll" <carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:52 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [bllaw] Exam$ software and law school exams
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>>>>
>>>> Thank you Aser. I was not aware that I might be going through the
>>>> exact same thing with the Bar.
>>>>
>>>> Kate
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Aser Tolentino
>>>> <agtolentino at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> > My school and the CA bar use ExamSoft. While I've heard talk of
>>>> > greater accessibility now, at the time I started law school three
>>>> > years ago it was not possible to run a screen reader alongside the
>>>> > software; I confirmed this with the sample test and by speaking to
>>>> > the school's IT department. My advice would be to request the
>>>> > school forgo your use of the software as a testing accommodation.
>>>> > The issue will come up again when you take the bar and could be
>>>> > more contentious then.
>>>> >
>>>> > Best,
>>>> > Aser
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Kate Carroll
>>>> > <carroll.kathryn.e at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Good evening everyone!
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I am looking for some advice concerning law school exams. If
>>>> > > anyone has
>>>> > any
>>>> > > thoughts on my question, i would greatly appreciate hearing
>>>> > > them.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I am in my first year of law school. I currently use a Dell
>>>> > > Latitutde
>>>> > with
>>>> > > Windows 7, and ZoomText for magnification and reading. I will
>>>> > > have to use the software Exambled for my upcoming exams. I have
>>>> > > heard that this software
>>>> > > will likely prevent ZoomText (and possibly the built-in Windows
>>>> > > magnification program) from working if I attempt to use them during
>>>> > > an
>>>> > > exam.
>>>> > > I havent actually tested the problem with the tech guys at the
>>>> > > school
>>>> > > because I need to get a Zoomtext license and right now don't have
>>>> > Zoomtext
>>>> > > on my laptop.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Does anyone have experience with this Exambled software, and is
>>>> > > a user of ZoomText? What did you do to get around this (alleged)
>>>> > > problem? Any
>>>> > ideas,
>>>> > > again, are welcome.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks,
>>>> > > Kate
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Kathryn CARROLL
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