[blindlaw] some questions

Fri Sep 2 14:39:26 UTC 2011

Beth, You were declared incompetent by a court, and your dad is your 
guardian. Correct? That is what you told me correct? I hate to say it but 
theirs nothing Colorado can do really because this is a Florida case, and if 
you did try to get married in Colorado, the judge would say, "I'm sorry, but 
you have an incapacitation order in Florida." I am not an attorney, but this 
is common sense. I hate to be this blunt, but you need to face reality that 
as long as you have this hanging over your head, you will, not be able to 
marry Deq or anybody for that matter. Again Beth, I'm not trying to be cruel 
or mean, but it seems you do not understand what this means. They do not, 
and they can not declare someone to be incompetent in Florida based on 
blindness alone. I have a Friend who is a county judge, and he told me that 
it is based on a persons mental capacity to care for themselves.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] some questions


> Right.  The thing is my dad has been trying to force me to use financial 
> supports like this financial manager who jacked my dbit card, and so I 
> fired her.  Dad was then told about Financial Represntative Payee 
> programs, of which I have no intrerest, but I'm afraid he'll force his 
> will on me.  This is something I can't accept.
> Beth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
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> Date sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 20:05:26 -0700
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> The important thing to continue to prove this is to continue to engage in
> your regular daily activities and show that you are following through with
> whatever schooling or work program that you are considering. The other
> factor that a court looks at in determining competency is how well you
> manage your finances and daily living activities and it soulds like you 
> are
> doing well in trying to attain your goals.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 4:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] some questions
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>
> This is so true.  I'm trying to prove to judges that I m a competent
> adult, and so we know, I did and am able to consent to sexual relations
> with the man I intend to marry.  So there's no way there is going to be
> any kind of thing dealing with "providing for" me.  Deq does not have to
> provide for me.  We will simply have to let Allah take care of things, if
> you know what I mean.
> Beth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
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> Date sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 13:47:00 -0700
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] some questions
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> Theoretically they could not necessarily use the argument that a person
> would be blind. They would have to use arguments saying that the person
> did
> not have the capacity to enter in to a marriage contract as they did not
> understand what was involved in marriage. This is done at times where
> there
> has been documented evidence of mental illness or mental retardation. It
> is
> also done in cases where a party to the marriage has not reached the age
> of
> consent. While I don't know the specific circumstances they could make the
> argument that the person that you intend to marry is not capable of
> providing for you and meeting your needs. Unfortunately families will
> still
> try to try some strange angles to prevent a marriage where there is a
> disabled party involved and judges will some times fall for these
> arguments.
> This applies to other matters in family law as well. There was the recent
> case where NFB had to intervene on behalf of the couple in Missouri that
> were told by Child Protective Services that they could not raise their
> new-born infant. This does not mean it would happen in your circumstances
> but these are possibilities that can sometimes occur.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
> To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 8:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] some questions
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>
> Like what extenuating circumstances are there?  How can you prevent a
> blind person from marrying?  In CO, they couldn't do this to me
> because Deq isn't taking advantage of me.
> Beth
>
> On 9/1/11, ckrugman at sbcglobal.net <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> actually, in some cases there are laws in rare circumstances that prevent
> people from marrying in this country. In cases where a person has been
> found
> mentally incompetent or if they are under a certain age a person may be
> prohibited from marrying. In reviewing and studying law it is best never
> to
> make a blanket statement as there are always extenuating factors that may
> come in to play.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc."
> <ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com
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> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] some questions
>
>
> Hi Beth:
>
> There is no law, especially since slavery was abolished around 1865, and
> the Civil Rights Act became the law of the land in 1964, that prohibits
> you from marrying whomsoever you choose.  The choice is yours to make:
> You can pander to the dictates of the folks bugging you, or you can move
> on and marry the individual you're in love with.  What may likely happen
> is that these folks won't show up at your wedding.  The question you
> should ask yourself is how important their presence at your wedding
> would
> be.  Hence, as an adult that's capable of making choices, the sky
> remains
> your limit!
>
> Wishing you the very best.
>
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado
>
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