[blindlaw] some questions
Beth
thebluesisloose at gmail.com
Fri Sep 2 18:57:29 UTC 2011
Well, I care for myself right now in Colorado, and Dad doesn't
see that. I have to be absolutely sure that CCDC in Colorado,
the Cross-Disability Coalition, can work with the Florida system
and get rid of it. The prevention of marriage was based in part
due to parent child conflict, and then they said I had to make
changes. Whuat changes I don't know, but Deq has nearly broken
up with me a bunch of times over this, so it is grounds for
getting rid of it. I've needed help trying for months and
perhaps years.
Beth
----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
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Date sent: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:39:26 -0400
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Beth, You were declared incompetent by a court, and your dad is
your
guardian. Correct? That is what you told me correct? I hate to
say it but
theirs nothing Colorado can do really because this is a Florida
case, and if
you did try to get married in Colorado, the judge would say, "I'm
sorry, but
you have an incapacitation order in Florida." I am not an
attorney, but this
is common sense. I hate to be this blunt, but you need to face
reality that
as long as you have this hanging over your head, you will, not be
able to
marry Deq or anybody for that matter. Again Beth, I'm not trying
to be cruel
or mean, but it seems you do not understand what this means. They
do not,
and they can not declare someone to be incompetent in Florida
based on
blindness alone. I have a Friend who is a county judge, and he
told me that
it is based on a persons mental capacity to care for themselves.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] some questions
Right. The thing is my dad has been trying to force me to use
financial
supports like this financial manager who jacked my dbit card,
and so I
fired her. Dad was then told about Financial Represntative
Payee
programs, of which I have no intrerest, but I'm afraid he'll
force his
will on me. This is something I can't accept.
Beth
----- Original Message -----
From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
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Date sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 20:05:26 -0700
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The important thing to continue to prove this is to continue to
engage in
your regular daily activities and show that you are following
through with
whatever schooling or work program that you are considering. The
other
factor that a court looks at in determining competency is how
well you
manage your finances and daily living activities and it soulds
like you
are
doing well in trying to attain your goals.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 4:34 PM
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This is so true. I'm trying to prove to judges that I m a
competent
adult, and so we know, I did and am able to consent to sexual
relations
with the man I intend to marry. So there's no way there is
going to be
any kind of thing dealing with "providing for" me. Deq does not
have to
provide for me. We will simply have to let Allah take care of
things, if
you know what I mean.
Beth
----- Original Message -----
From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
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Date sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 13:47:00 -0700
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] some questions
Theoretically they could not necessarily use the argument that a
person
would be blind. They would have to use arguments saying that the
person
did
not have the capacity to enter in to a marriage contract as they
did not
understand what was involved in marriage. This is done at times
where
there
has been documented evidence of mental illness or mental
retardation. It
is
also done in cases where a party to the marriage has not reached
the age
of
consent. While I don't know the specific circumstances they
could make the
argument that the person that you intend to marry is not capable
of
providing for you and meeting your needs. Unfortunately families
will
still
try to try some strange angles to prevent a marriage where there
is a
disabled party involved and judges will some times fall for
these
arguments.
This applies to other matters in family law as well. There was
the recent
case where NFB had to intervene on behalf of the couple in
Missouri that
were told by Child Protective Services that they could not raise
their
new-born infant. This does not mean it would happen in your
circumstances
but these are possibilities that can sometimes occur.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 8:34 AM
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Like what extenuating circumstances are there? How can you
prevent a
blind person from marrying? In CO, they couldn't do this to me
because Deq isn't taking advantage of me.
Beth
On 9/1/11, ckrugman at sbcglobal.net <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
actually, in some cases there are laws in rare circumstances
that prevent
people from marrying in this country. In cases where a person
has been
found
mentally incompetent or if they are under a certain age a person
may be
prohibited from marrying. In reviewing and studying law it is
best never
to
make a blanket statement as there are always extenuating factors
that may
come in to play.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc."
<ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] some questions
Hi Beth:
There is no law, especially since slavery was abolished around
1865, and
the Civil Rights Act became the law of the land in 1964, that
prohibits
you from marrying whomsoever you choose. The choice is yours to
make:
You can pander to the dictates of the folks bugging you, or you
can move
on and marry the individual you're in love with. What may
likely happen
is that these folks won't show up at your wedding. The question
you
should ask yourself is how important their presence at your
wedding
would
be. Hence, as an adult that's capable of making choices, the
sky
remains
your limit!
Wishing you the very best.
Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado
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