[blindlaw] Signatures?

Susan Kelly Susan.Kelly at pima.gov
Mon Aug 20 22:30:33 UTC 2012


I agree with the consistency.  You may want to check into the
possibility of using a jurat / stamp, if that is a goal - one of my
co-workers is quadriplegic, so that is the manner in which she "signs"
her documents for court, given the physical inability to do so. 

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 3:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signatures?

hi, sorry, i know what you mean about raised line kits now.
Susan, if you were signing things for years before you became blind,
then i guess you know the movement and i expect it is similar.
The issue here is not so much a challenge as a personal thing, i think
it would look good to have it consistent.
G

On 8/20/12, Susan Kelly <Susan.Kelly at pima.gov> wrote:
> Ross is definitely right about the "recognizable" part.  I have only 
> recently lost my sight, and still sign as I remember my signature to
be.
> I'm pretty sure it bears not much resemblance to when I could actually

> see what I was doing, but the court still accepts it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Ross Doerr
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>
> Hello Ger:
> You can hear them referred to as raised line kits or signature guides.
> For a description, a signature guide is the size and shape of a 
> business card and made of either metal or plastic. I carry a metal one

> in my wallet and have made sure that the secretary kept a plastic one 
> in her desk for blind clients.
> The guide has a rectangular window, lengthwise, cut into it, and when 
> one needs to sign, the guide is placed with the window over the 
> signature line, with one of the edges on the line itself.You simply 
> sign your name inside the window.
> Of course a sighted person needs to place it for you, thats a 
> downside, but it is, after all, a sighted world we live in.
> As far as my signature goes and whether it is accepted or not -- I've 
> practiced law since 1988 and never had it challenged. If you get right

> down to it, who on earth could forge my terrible signature?
> Don't get too worked up over being able to sign things.  It is what it

> is, and they'll accept your signature.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerard Sadlier" <gerard.sadlier at gmail.com>
> To: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>; "Blind Law Mailing List"
> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 4:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signatures?
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestions.
>>
>> What is a raised line kit?
>>
>> How long did it take you to learn to do this?
>> Is your signature consistent? e.g. recognizeably yours from one 
>> signature to the next?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ger
>>
>> On 8/20/12, ckrugman at sbcglobal.net <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> Having been born blind I was taught to sign my name when I wasin 
>>> high school. However, my legal signature is an illegible scrawl but 
>>> it is legally
>>>
>>> recognized. On documents where my signature needs to be understood I
> will
>>> type or have someone print my name next to it.
>>> Chuck
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gerard Sadlier" <gerard.sadlier at gmail.com>
>>> To: "blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:59 PM
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Signatures?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in knowing how people sign documents, with their
> full
>>>> names, initials, what?
>>>>
>>>> How long did it take you to learn this, if you did so when blind 
>>>> and what methods worked for you?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> G
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