[blindlaw] Signatures?

Gerard Sadlier gerard.sadlier at gmail.com
Mon Aug 20 22:41:12 UTC 2012


I think a stamp would be problematic. Obviously, in the circumstances
you mention it would be proper but I do not think that it would
necessarily be held to be a signature, otherwise, for all purposes.
I would also be concerned at the risk of misuse of the stamp.

G

On 8/20/12, Susan Kelly <Susan.Kelly at pima.gov> wrote:
> I agree with the consistency.  You may want to check into the
> possibility of using a jurat / stamp, if that is a goal - one of my
> co-workers is quadriplegic, so that is the manner in which she "signs"
> her documents for court, given the physical inability to do so.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier
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> hi, sorry, i know what you mean about raised line kits now.
> Susan, if you were signing things for years before you became blind,
> then i guess you know the movement and i expect it is similar.
> The issue here is not so much a challenge as a personal thing, i think
> it would look good to have it consistent.
> G
>
> On 8/20/12, Susan Kelly <Susan.Kelly at pima.gov> wrote:
>> Ross is definitely right about the "recognizable" part.  I have only
>> recently lost my sight, and still sign as I remember my signature to
> be.
>> I'm pretty sure it bears not much resemblance to when I could actually
>
>> see what I was doing, but the court still accepts it.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Ross Doerr
>> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 2:15 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signatures?
>>
>> Hello Ger:
>> You can hear them referred to as raised line kits or signature guides.
>> For a description, a signature guide is the size and shape of a
>> business card and made of either metal or plastic. I carry a metal one
>
>> in my wallet and have made sure that the secretary kept a plastic one
>> in her desk for blind clients.
>> The guide has a rectangular window, lengthwise, cut into it, and when
>> one needs to sign, the guide is placed with the window over the
>> signature line, with one of the edges on the line itself.You simply
>> sign your name inside the window.
>> Of course a sighted person needs to place it for you, thats a
>> downside, but it is, after all, a sighted world we live in.
>> As far as my signature goes and whether it is accepted or not -- I've
>> practiced law since 1988 and never had it challenged. If you get right
>
>> down to it, who on earth could forge my terrible signature?
>> Don't get too worked up over being able to sign things.  It is what it
>
>> is, and they'll accept your signature.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gerard Sadlier" <gerard.sadlier at gmail.com>
>> To: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>; "Blind Law Mailing List"
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 4:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Signatures?
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your suggestions.
>>>
>>> What is a raised line kit?
>>>
>>> How long did it take you to learn to do this?
>>> Is your signature consistent? e.g. recognizeably yours from one
>>> signature to the next?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ger
>>>
>>> On 8/20/12, ckrugman at sbcglobal.net <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> Having been born blind I was taught to sign my name when I wasin
>>>> high school. However, my legal signature is an illegible scrawl but
>>>> it is legally
>>>>
>>>> recognized. On documents where my signature needs to be understood I
>> will
>>>> type or have someone print my name next to it.
>>>> Chuck
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gerard Sadlier" <gerard.sadlier at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:59 PM
>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Signatures?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>> I am interested in knowing how people sign documents, with their
>> full
>>>>> names, initials, what?
>>>>>
>>>>> How long did it take you to learn this, if you did so when blind
>>>>> and what methods worked for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> G
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