[blindlaw] Re Witnessing documents as blind lawyer

Tue Jul 31 20:21:38 UTC 2012

What functions does a notary perform in your system?

A previous poster suggested that one could become a notary quite
easily in her jurisdiction? Is that right?

What are the criteria for admission?

On 7/31/12, Daniel McBride <dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Mr. Borah:
>
> As an attorney, my obligations lie solely with my client.  I must represent
> my client zealously within the bounds of the law.  If an evidentiary issue
> arises, regarding the authenticity and admissibility of said document, it
> is
> my obligation to fully challenge same before its admittance.
>
> If this means challenging its authenticity resulting from a blind notary's
> ability to properly identify said document, then I will do so.  As I am
> representing my client, and not the interests of blind notaries, it is no
> hypocrisy.
>
> Dan McBride
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Kyle Borah
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:11 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Re Witnessing documents as blind lawyer
>
> I'm not trying to challenge your philosophies or ways of doing things, but
> isn't that kind of hypocritical? What I mean is, you're blind and you're
> not
> even going to trust another blind person that the document was signed
> correctly.
>
> Blessings,
> Kyle Borah
>
> At-large board member of the Missouri Association of Blind Students and
> proud graduate of Oakville Senior high school class of 2012.
>
> Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of
> the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.
> Isaiah 1:17
>
> On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:52 PM, "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Mr. Langlois:
>
> I would not give up being a Notary, especially if same provides a source of
> income.  However, as a blind attorney, I would challenge the authenticity
> of
> any legal document that I knew to be notarized by a blind person.
>
> Dan McBride
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Brian Langlois
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 9:25 PM
> To: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net; Blind Law Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Re Witnessing documents as blind lawyer
>
> O-oh, I'm a notary and I'm totally blind.
> Should I give it up?
> Brian Langlois, Massachusetts
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Re Witnessing documents as blind lawyer
>
>
>> As a blind paralegal and formerly as a clinical social workerand advocate
>>
>> I always had a sighted witness such as clerical staff or notary witness
>> documents as I would have no knowledge of how the document was signed or
>> what was written as the signature. It is for this person that a blind
>> person cannot be a notary.
>> Chuck Krugman, MSW Paralegal
>> 1237 P Street
>> Fresno ca93721
>> 559-266-9237
>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/chuck-krugman/b/357/722
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Elizabeth Rene" <emrene at earthlink.net>
>> To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:02 PM
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Re Witnessing documents as blind lawyer
>>
>>
>>> I think one should first look carefully at one's state statutes
>>> regarding
>
>>> documents that must be witnessed: Wills, deeds, etc., to see what makes
>>> them valid or invalid.  It might be that one doesn't need even to see
>>> the
>
>>> document signed, but only to have, e.g. the testator, grantor, etc. say
> in
>
>>> your presence that the signature is his or hers.
>>>
>>> And there's always a little theatre in lawyering, I think.  If you're
>>> worried about how it will look to your client to have a blind person
>>> witnessing a document, why not have a notary public there, with all her
>>> seals and affidavits, to acknowledge the signature, with you and
>>> whomever
>
>>> else to sign off as witnesses?  It might not be legally required to make
>>>
>>> your document valid, but could put the client's and your own mind at
>>> rest. And there's nothing to being made a notary, so your secretary
>>> could
>
>>> serve that function, with no extra cost to your client.  This is with
>>> the
>
>>> caveat that my words aren't legal advice, and, as Bill Handle always
>>> says
>
>>> on his radio show, "worth every cent you paid for it!"
>>>
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>>
>>>
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