[blindlaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
Alcidonis Law Office
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Tue Oct 30 00:17:37 UTC 2012
You guys beat me to it -- I was just writing to ask Ronza if she could share
a few "policy position" titles to facilitate searches.
One of them I have used in the past is "Attorney Adviser."
Rod Alcidonis, Esquire.
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-----Original Message-----
From: ray wayne
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 7:59 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
I have the same question.
Ray Wayne
----- Original Message -----
,f3 ,ross ,do]r <rumpole at roadrunner.com>
,to3 8,bl ,law ,mail+ ,li/0 <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>,
Date: Monday, Oct 29, 2012 19:25:57
Subject: Re: [bllaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
>
>
> Where does one find policy jobs, I'm on the list for attorney postings,
> but
> don't know how to find the policy type.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
@> ,f3 8,ronza ,o?man0 <rothmanjd at gmail.com>
@> ,to3 8',bl ,law ,mail+ ,li/'0 <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [bllaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
>
>
> > Ross,
> > If you do make a move to Boston, New York, or Washington, please let me
> > know. I'd be happy to share your resume with folks in my health care
> > network. I'd also suggest you think about broadening what you're
> > looking
> > for in terms of actual positions — there are a lot of jobs on the policy
> > side and very few on the litigation side. If you do policy work for a
> > while, you might have the opportunity to get back into the litigation
> > arena
> > once you've expanded your network and gotten your foot in the federal
> > door.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ronza
> >
> >
@> @> -----Original Message-----
> > From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross
> > Doerr
> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:36 PM
> > To: Blind Law Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [bllaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
> >
> >
> > Thank you Ronza. I see that you did a great deal of networking, and that
> > is
> > something I have been trying to do a lot. I didn't know that you knew
> > Joanne Wilson — now a former director of a Federal Agency is a
> > connection!
> > I have been doing the same sort of emailing that you suggest with
> > introductory letters with a resume, and application writing for 3 years,
> > and
> > don't seem to get much beyond a reply letter saying either they will
> > keep
> > me
> > on file for the next job opening or that they don't know what they can
> > do
> > to
> > help.
> > It would seem that a move out of Maine to a more cosmepolitan area such
> > as
> > down in Boston or WOULDC would be in order. The reason I say that is we
> > don't
> > really have any mass transit up here to speak of unless you are on the
> > Amtrack train, running out of Portland regularly, so being able to do
> > the
> > type of networking that you refer to isn't possible on a bus or train up
> > here, but I wish that it were.
> > My litigation record is an excellent one in State and Federal matters
> > but
> > the type of open-minded disability hiring doesn't seem to be as evident
> > in
> > this area. Your experiences highlight the need to be either in a
> > physical
> > location where the type of casual, coincidental contacts can be made, or
> > to
> > get a good networking contact to help you get a foot in the door. Like
> > you,
> > I'm a proven and seasoned professional in healthcare litigation
> > (Medicaid)
> > and with litigation experience in the Help America Vote Act on the
> > administrative level, and then via ADA Title II into Federal Court for
> > polling place access.
> > I'm glad your experiences are successful and not as protracted in the
> > down
> > side as mine are, but thanks for the information.
> > Ross A. Doerr Esq.
> > Admitted to Practice in:
> > Maine and New Hampshire
> > F. Ct. Admissions:
> > ME & NH
> >
> >
> >
> >
@> @> ----- Original Message -----
@> @> ,f3 8,ronza ,o?man0 <rothmanjd at gmail.com>
@> @> ,to3 8',bl ,law ,mail+ ,li/'0 <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 10:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: [bllaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
> >
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm happy to help if I can. Anyone interested in tips or tricks beyond
> >> what
> >> I share below is welcome to message me privately.
> >>
> >> I earned a BA in Philosophy and a BS in Biological Sciences from a very
> >> small Catholic university in Chicago. I attended DePaul University and
> >> earned a Masters in Public Services Management with a concentration in
> >> Healthcare Administration, and I attended DePaul University College of
> >> Law
> >> where I earned my JD. I received a job offer to work in the county
> >> prosecutor's office post-law school during my last year of law school,
> >> but
> >> the county went broke, and I found out a few weeks before I was to sit
> >> for
> >> the Bar that they had to rescind all offers for new people. So I
> >> drifted
> >> a
> >> little bit, taking whatever jobs I could find, including working as an
> >> attorney investigator for a pseudo-federal agency (which means a
> >> federal
> >> judge stood up this office on a temporary basis to investigate and
> >> adjudicate employment discrimination claims for a class action). I got
> >> that
> >> job by simply sending an email with my resume and cover letter after
> >> seeing
> >> an ad for it on my law school's career office website. I also worked
> >> for
> >> a
> >> law firm for a bit, eventually managing the suburban branch, and then I
> >> struck out on my own. Meanwhile, I was handling immigration cases,
> >> both
> >> for
> >> the law firm and when I hung my own shingle, and I was having great
> >> success
> >> against USCIS and ICE. That drew some attention to me as an Arab
> >> American
> >> Muslim who was finding the systemic discrimination in DHS programs. I
> >> also
> >> networked, networked, networked.
> >>
> >> One day, I had a conversation with Joann Wilson from NFB, who asked me
> >> about
> >> my future plans. I confided that I wasn't big on managing my own law
> >> practice and thought I'd prefer to work for a nonprofit or government
> >> agency
> >> so I could have greater impact. She offered to introduce me to a
> >> friend
> >> of
> >> hers, who was the head of the civil rights office at DHS. It turned
> >> out
> >> that he had heard of me because of the litigation I'd been working on
> >> in
> >> Chicago, but he offered to conduct an informational interview with me
> >> the
> >> next time I was in DC thanks to Joann's introduction. I took him up on
> >> the
> >> offer, and when a position opened up, I applied for it. I was ready to
> >> go
> >> Schedule A, but they ended up processing my application for that job
> >> competitively. It took well over a year from initial application until
> >> I
> >> got my start date, but that was in part because I had to obtain a
> >> security
> >> clearance for the job.
> >>
> >> I stayed a few years, but I needed a change. I saw a vacancy
> >> announcement
> >> on this list for another federal position — actually Scott LaBarre
> >> posted
> >> it. That same day, I sent out my resume and cover letter to the
> >> Disability
> >> Employment Program Manager, and I had my first phone interview later
> >> that
> >> afternoon for that position. Several others on this list were also
> >> interviewed for that position, I later learned. I was brought in for
> >> an
> >> in-person interview, and I got the job. They used Schedule A for this
> >> position.
> >>
> >> Since then, I've applied using Schedule A maybe 7 times, and I've
> >> interviewed for 5 positions and have received 3 offers. These have
> >> been
> >> with various Agencies, including SBA, SSA, Education, HUD, and the DOJ.
> >>
> >> In my work, I also attend conferences on hiring individuals with
> >> disabilities. For example, there is an annual conference for federal
> >> agencies called the Perspectives on Hiring Individuals with
> >> Disabilities
> >> Federal Conference each fall in Washington. It basically teaches
> >> agencies
> >> how to use Schedule A and other hiring authorities like the Workforce
> >> Recruitment Program (like Schedule A but for current students and
> >> recent
> >> graduates), in addition to resources for providing reasonable
> >> acommodations
> >> and strategies for retention. That is where I've met the hundreds of
> >> Schedule A hires, and I've maintained contact with many of them. Also,
> >> the
> >> disability community in Washington is small, so a lot of us know one
> >> another. We turn up at conferences, workshops, balls, and just
> >> randomly
> >> riding the metro or Marc trains.
> >>
> >>
> >> My experience is that the range in age for those hired using Schedule A
> >> is
> >> all over the place. Since it can be used to hire for pretty much any
> >> position, it isn't true that most hires are entry-level. I know
> >> Schedule
> >> A
> >> folks who are attorneys, accountants, actuaries, nurses, education
> >> specialists, transportation specialists, managers, HR folks, and on and
> >> on.
> >> I can't say I know very many in law enforcement though — but then again
> >> those folks are less likely to share that they have a disability, or
> >> their
> >> disabilities are likely to be hidden rather than obvious.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ronza
> >>
> >>
@> @>@> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> >> McBride
> >> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:01 AM
> >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> >> Subject: Re: [bllaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
> >>
> >> Ronza:
> >>
> >> Would you share with us your personal success story? Where did you
> >> attend
> >> undergraduate school and law school? From the time you were licensed
> >> to
> >> practice, how long was it before your Schedule A hire? In which
> >> agency,
> >> and
> >> in what capacity was the hire?
> >>
> >>
> >> You mention "hundreds" of Schedule A success stories in your area. I
> >> believe you do not mean hundreds of blind lawyers. Of these success
> >> stories, what type of disabilities are involved? With which agencies,
> >> and
> >> in what capacity, are these people finding success with Schedule A?
> >>
> >> Also, including yourself and the hundreds of others, what would you
> >> estimate
> >> the age demographics to be. I know several of us curious about this
> >> matter
> >> are in our late 50s to early 60s. Thanks a bunch.
> >>
> >> Dan McBride, Attorney
> >> Fort Worth, Texas
> >>
@> @>@> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ronza
> >> Othman
> >> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:25 AM
> >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> >> Subject: Re: [bllaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
> >>
> >> Hi Will,
> >>
> >> I am a Schedule A "success story" myself, and I know at least two dozen
> >> in
> >> my Agency alone. I'd say overall, I probably know of several hundred
> >> individuals with disabilities who've been hired using Schedule A. But
> >> I
> >> live and interact in the Washington DC area, so I can't say how
> >> effective
> >> such programs are outside of the headquarters area. I do know folks
> >> who've
> >> been hired in the regions, but since the majority of feds work in DC,
> >> I'd
> >> say I'm more familiar with success in that area. In addition,
> >> different
> >> federal agencies have different protocols for implementing Schedule A,
> >> so
> >> I
> >> can't say each agency takes advantage of Schedule A in the same way.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ronza
> >>
> >>
@> @>@> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William
> >> T.
> >> Miller
> >> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 4:44 PM
> >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> >> Subject: Re: [bllaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
> >>
> >> Sounds familiar. I don't feel entitled to noncompetitive status, but
> >> please
> >> spare me the dangling carrot. I'm curious to know if anyone on the list
> >> is
> >> aware of any Schedule A success stories — I'd love to find out that my
> >> skepticism regarding the program is unwarranted.
> >>
> >> Will Miller
> >>
> >>
@> @>@> -----Original Message-----
@> @>@> ,f3 ,alcidonis ,law ,(fice [mailto:attorney at alcidonislaw.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 12:13 AM
> >> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [bllaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
> >>
> >> As I said, it is just a joke. Long ago I stopped wasting my time with
> >> so-called schedule A coordinators. One of them pretty much admitted to
> >> me:
> >> "I don't think I am still the coordinator though." Really? And your
> >> name
> >> is
> >> on the government's website?
> >>
> >> I also don't see what the heck they are coordinating if they have
> >> applicants
> >>
> >> send resume to their attentions and the applicant just never receives
> >> even
> >> an acknowledgement of receipt.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rod
> >>
@> @>@> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Deepa Goraya
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:49 PM
> >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> >> Subject: Re: [bllaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
> >>
> >> Many Schedule A coordinators don't even return calls or emails. I have
> >> tried
> >> contacting some of them.
> >>
@> @>@> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Alcidonis
> >> Law Office
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:25 PM
> >> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [bllaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
> >>
> >> Some of the schedule A coordinators don't even know they hold that
> >> title.
> >> The whole thing is a joke.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rod
@> @>@> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Angie Matney
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:41 PM
> >> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [bllaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
> >>
> >> Hello Will:
> >>
> >> Jobs filled through schedule a do not have to be (but may be)
> >> advertized.
> >> I
> >> guess you could contact the agency you're interested in and see if
> >> there
> >> are
> >> openings. This page has more information:
> >>
@> @>@> http://www.opm.gov/disability/mngr_3-13.asp
> >>
> >> I don't know how well this theoretically great program works in
> >> practice.
> >>
> >> Angie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/18/12, Daniel McBride <dlmlaw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>> Will:
@> >>>
> >>> Not only do I find the Schedule A Federal program somewhat suspect, I
> >>> am curious about the complete absence of Schedule A type programs at
> >>> the state and local levels.
@> >>>
> >>> I have been practicing criminal law for 29 years; 3 years as a
> >>> prosecutor and the remainder in defense. The local DA's office is
> >>> quite familiar with me and my abilities. However, my efforts to gain
> >>> employment with them do not receive the time of day. I have no doubt
> >>> but that their stated EEOC policy is mere form lacking any substance.
@> >>>
> >>> I cannot agree more with the posts entered since Ross' apology.
@> >>>
> >>> Dan McBride, Attorney
> >>> Fort Worth, Texas
@> >>>
@> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> William T.
> >>> Miller
> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:41 PM
> >>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> >>> Subject: [bllaw] binders = Schedule A? (a nonpartisan question)
@> >>>
> >>> Theoretically there is a process similar to the "binders" mentioned in
> >>> the last presidential debate: Schedule A. I'm curious if this list
> >>> feels that schedule A is an effective process? My understanding of
> >>> Schedule A is that disabled candidates for federal positions can post
> >>> for jobs before they are posted publicly and, if qualified, the hiring
> >>> manager may hire them noncompetitively. However, I don't understand
> >>> how disabled job candidates are supposed to know of potential jobs
> >>> before they are posted to the public.
> >>> If disabled candidates have no way of knowing what Schedule A
> >>> opportunities exists, then how can he or she take advantage of the
> >>> program? I'm definitely no expert on this topic, so if anyone on the
> >>> list can correct me and explain how one applies for a specific
> >>> position as a Schedule A candidate, please enlighten me.
> >>> Thank you,
@> >>>
> >>> Will Miller
@> >>> -----Original Message-----
@> >>> From: Daniel K. Beitz [mailto:dbeitz at wiennergould.com]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:54 PM
> >>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> >>> Subject: Re: [bllaw] "Question" Posting
@> >>>
> >>> I didn't see anything wrong with the post.
@> >>>
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> >>> From: bllaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ross
> >>> Doerr
> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:45 PM
> >>> To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
> >>> Subject: [bllaw] "Question" Posting
@> >>>
> >>> Hello List:
@> >>>
> >>> I am the one who posted the "question" about why disabled job seekers
> >>> aren't being asked for binders full of their resumes to get more of
> >>> "us" into the workplace. It was my blatant reference to a comment made
> >>> during the presidential debate.
@> >>>
> >>> In view of the on list and off list reprimands I have received about
> >>> the posting, I feel that I should go onto the list and apologize for
> >>> posting what is, as it has been pointed out to me repeatedly, an off
> >>> topic message.
@> >>>
> >>> I had thought that, in view of the underlying unemployment issues
> >>> that face those of us on the list, and those of us who regularly post
> >>> job listings, such as myself and Noel Nightengale, that an idea to
> >>> improve the employment situation would be net with some positive
> >>> thought provocation.
@> >>>
> >>> Since I was wrong, I apologize to the list as a whole for my off
> >>> topic posting. It will not happen again.
@> >>>
> >>> Ross A. Doerr Attorney at law
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