[blindlaw] LSAT Logic Games

Thu May 14 00:16:48 UTC 2015

Hi Guys:

I have been following this thread and I too am taking the LSAT in June.  I 
took it in February and did 138.  I thought that was fabulous but I guess 
the law schools don't like that score.  As far as the logic games, I found 
that even though I tried to use excel, braille display, and also braille 
writers, etc, I found that II still was getting it all jumbled up in my 
mind; I've been practicing since last january and I haven't gotten any 
better at it.  I think what Nicole and I are looking for is very specific 
followable instructions to tackle such games.  Are there tutors out there 
who specialize in teaching blind persons these puzzles?  someone like a 
shrink who understands how the human brain works?  I am actually considering 
just guessing "d" for all the game questions; I'm bound to hit on a couple 
of them just by chance.  My theory is that the logic reasoning is two 
sections of the test; therefore between those two sections and the reading 
section that should get me at least 140 or slightly better and then let the 
chips fall where they may.

What do you guys think of this?  Is it possible that since totally blind 
persons from birth can only visualize in two dimensions, this is the 
detriment when it comes to these games?

Please advise.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Kelby Carlson via blindlaw
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 6:51 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Kelby Carlson
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT Logic Games

Nicole,

Michal is right about this.  As much as you may hate to hear
this, it's probably better to hold off on taking the test until
September.  I would actually begin the accommodation process
right now; it is literally never too early to start in this case.
You'll need to request absolutely every single accommodation you
think you might need, and in very specific detail.  I made this
mistake and was not able to use the accommodations for the logic
games that I had planned.  Fortunately I was still able to obtain
a reasonable score, but in many ways I was lucky.

As for suggestions, I would echo Michal's.  I also had some luck
using symbols on a braille display.  IT will take a good deal of
experimentation and practice.  Use lots of practice tests with
different problems and groupings.  See if things click, and don't
be afraid to try different methods with different sorts of sets.

K.

----- Original Message -----
From: Michal Nowicki via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 13 May 2015 18:10:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT Logic Games

Hi Nicole,

When I took the LSAT last year, I used a Microsoft Excel
spreadsheet to
sketch out the games.  I chose Excel over tactile objects because
I quickly
discovered that it would be much easier to manipulate the various
conditions
that way.

For grouping games, I recommend you use columns for the groups,
as those are
the stable elements in the game, and that you place the members
of each
group in the cells below the appropriate group headings.  I also
recommend a
separate row for all the rules.  The key to success on logic
games is
working out a strategy that works for you, so feel free to
experiment.

You can be certain that LSAC will not let you skip logic games,
so don't
even try taking the easy way out.  In fact, I was very fortunate
to get all
the accommodations I requested, as many blind test takers had
major
difficulties getting the accommodations they needed; LSAC does
not like to
work with test takers with disabilities to insure that their
needs are met.
With that in mind, I'm afraid you won't be able to take the LSAT
in June,
since you don't yet know how to tackle logic games and thus are
not in a
position to request specific accommodations.  You can't, for
instance,
decide that Excel works best for you a week before the test and
show up on
the day of the exam expecting to be allowed to use the program;
each
accommodation must be preapproved by LSAC well in advance, and
the process
for requesting accommodations can be very time-consuming.  As a
matter of
fact, the deadline for the June test may have already passed.

Please don't hesitate to contact me off-list at
mnowicki4 at iCloud.com if you
have further questions.  Good luck!

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Nicole
Askins via blindlaw
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 4:05 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Nicole Askins
Subject: [blindlaw] LSAT Logic Games

Greetings all,

I am new to this list serve and would like to thank valarie for
giving me
information about it.
I have a question, I am scheduled to take the LSAT in June and
can not seem
to get a handle on the Grouping Games.  since some of you may
have experience
with this test, please advise.
1.  Did anyone have this section of the test omitted?
2.  how did you create the diagrams if not omitted?

Thank you for your time and attention to this matter Nicole
Askins
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