[blindlaw] class notes

Gerard Sadlier gerard.sadlier at gmail.com
Fri Sep 18 17:16:34 UTC 2015


Hi,

I agree with Chris about taking your own notes - whether or not you
have a note taker. Taking a good note is an important skill.

Ger

On 9/18/15, Stewart, Christopher K via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Amy,
>
> First off, I want to start by saying that I think you should use
> whatever means possible to achieve success in school.
>
> I've never used a notetaker before, so I'm not sure how schools handle
> it. However, I want to make sure that your school is providing another
> law student to take your notes in class. I can't imagine that an
> undergraduate student, unless unusually advanced, would be able to
> make the determinations of what constitutes important information,
> particularly in a class where the socratic method is relied on.
>
> Also, again, it's your party, and you should do whatever works for
> you. However, an important thing in law school is learning to take a
> lot of information and create a concise statement of the law. So, even
> while using a notetaker, I would suggest taking your own notes if only
> for the purposes of learning to quickly accomplish this. But, again,
> at the end of the day, it's whatever helps to make you successful.
>
> Best,
> Chris
>
>
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>>    1. Class Notes (Aimee Harwood)
>>    2. Re: Class Notes (Sy Hoekstra)
>>    3. Re: Class Notes (Alosha Moore)
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>> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:08:15 -0400
>> From: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Class Notes
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>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I have a few questions about note takers provided by the school and clas
>> notes.  1. If a person is granted a note taker, is the blind student
>> required to take notes and should that blind student be scrutinized about
>> the fact that they are or are not also taking notes?  2.  Are there
>> guidelines that schools provide the note taker that indicates what they
>> can
>> or can not include in the class notes?  3.  Is anything said in class
>> allowed to be included in the class notes by the note taker?  4.  Is the
>> blind student allowed to request things  that are said in class that are
>> not
>> currently included in the class notes to be included in the notes
>> provided
>> by the note taker?
>>
>> ,If there is any other information regarding notetakers and class notes
>> that
>> I may not have thought of, please don't hesitate to throw it in.
>>
>>
>> Aimee
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:15:28 -0400
>> From: "Sy Hoekstra" <sy.hoekstra at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Class Notes
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>> I think you should be given whatever accommodations you need to both take
>> part in class and end up with solid notes. So if that means you don't
>> take
>> notes while someone else does, that's fine. Also, anyone who actually
>> scrutinizes and remarks on whether you're taking notes is a bit
>> ridiculous.
>> And yes, you should definitely feel free to ask your note taker to take
>> better notes, or switch to a person who is better at taking notes. I have
>> never heard of guidelines on this subject, but that doesn't mean they
>> don't
>> exist. My undergraduate school definitely did quality control on my note
>> takers. But I just took my own notes in law school.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aimee
>> Harwood via blindlaw
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:08 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Class Notes
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I have a few questions about note takers provided by the school and clas
>> notes.  1. If a person is granted a note taker, is the blind student
>> required to take notes and should that blind student be scrutinized about
>> the fact that they are or are not also taking notes?  2.  Are there
>> guidelines that schools provide the note taker that indicates what they
>> can
>> or can not include in the class notes?  3.  Is anything said in class
>> allowed to be included in the class notes by the note taker?  4.  Is the
>> blind student allowed to request things  that are said in class that are
>> not
>> currently included in the class notes to be included in the notes
>> provided
>> by the note taker?
>>
>> ,If there is any other information regarding notetakers and class notes
>> that
>> I may not have thought of, please don't hesitate to throw it in.
>>
>>
>> Aimee
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:10:23 -0500
>> From: Alosha Moore <aloshamoore at gmail.com>
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Class Notes
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>> Amy:
>> No, if The blind student requests to have someone provide them with
>> notes,
>> they are not required to continue taking their own notes. That note taker
>> is
>> required to be competent and cognizant of both visually presented
>> material
>> as well as auditory. The blind student is allowed to request the note
>> taker
>> to be aware of specific information that they deem pertinent, but it is
>> better to find a note taker that already takes good notesand does not
>> have
>> to make major changes to suit both of you.
>> My note taker happens to be one of the top in our class and we've set up
>> a
>> drop box system that suits both of us. Remember, this is a very
>> reasonable
>> request as many professors depend on conveying information visually which
>> does not suit the blind student at all.hope this helps and feel free to
>> ask
>> for clarification.
>> Warm regards, Alosha Moore.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone.
>>
>>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Aimee Harwood via blindlaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I have a few questions about note takers provided by the school and clas
>>> notes.  1. If a person is granted a note taker, is the blind student
>>> required to take notes and should that blind student be scrutinized
>>> about
>>> the fact that they are or are not also taking notes?  2.  Are there
>>> guidelines that schools provide the note taker that indicates what they
>>> can or can not include in the class notes?  3.  Is anything said in
>>> class
>>> allowed to be included in the class notes by the note taker?  4.  Is the
>>> blind student allowed to request things  that are said in class that are
>>> not currently included in the class notes to be included in the notes
>>> provided by the note taker?
>>>
>>> ,If there is any other information regarding notetakers and class notes
>>> that I may not have thought of, please don't hesitate to throw it in.
>>>
>>>
>>> Aimee
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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