[blindlaw] LSAT accomodations

Tue Aug 9 02:06:01 UTC 2016

I got the LSAC to allow me to use a stack of white scrap paper and a sharpie
so I could essentially do the logic games visually, just in very large,
black writing. And I agree that practice is crucial. It is an inherently
visual, discriminatory exam. It's certainly possible to do well, but only
with lots of training.

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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT accomodations

Wow this is fantastic feedback. Although I am not a braille user I can
certainly use this advice. Thank you

On Aug 8, 2016 1:14 PM, "Jameyanne Fuller via BlindLaw"
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hello,
> I realize I haven't introduced myself on this list yet. I'm Jameyanne. I'm
> from NH. I'll be a 1L at Harvard Law School this year. I was a national
> scholarship winner this year, and this convention was my first experience
> with the NFB, which I found I love and am so excited to be a part of. I've
> already learned a lot just by lurking on this thread, and I can't wait to
> learn more and contribute once I actually know law related things.
> Anyway, I took the LSAT last October. They would only let me use a
computer
> for the writing sample portion of the exam. Using a Braille notetaker was
> not an option, and I didn't ask about using a Braille display with my
> computer because at the time I was still just learning how to use that
with
> my computer (so I'm not sure about that). Otherwise I had a Braille exam,
a
> scribe to bubble in my answers, use of a Perkins Brailler and scrap paper
> for all the sections, and 100% extended time. I had no problems applying
> for
> these accommodations because they accepted accommodations I used on the
SAT
> and GRE. I did well on the test, and I would say the key to success for me
> was practice, practice, practice. I requested 6 Braille practice tests
from
> LSAC (they're free as long as you return them on test day). I also did all
> the practice tests in the back of the Princeton Review book I got on
> Bookshare. And I did some more practice tests that I'd ordered in print
> from
> LSAC orally with my mom or my dad scanned them in and proofread them so I
> could read the test on my BrailleNote. I was studying for a good four
> months
> before I actually took the test.
> In terms of the logic games, I came up with my own system of efficiently
> diagriming them on the Perkins Brailler. I used first letter abreviations
> for the elements, and on one page I wrote out the clues using the first
> letter abreviations, and then my deductions based on those clues so I
could
> easily reference all that information. Then on a separate page I started
> working on the questions. I usually diagramed either across or in columns,
> depending on the type of the game. I plugged in the information from the
> clues and my deductions, then any additional information given in the
> question, and solved the puzzle. I did not do the questions in order. I
> started with questions that asked which arrangement of elements works. You
> start by applying your deductions, one at a time, to each answer and
> eliminate the choices that don't work, then you do the same thing with the
> clues, one at a time. Then I went to questions that gave you an additional
> piece of information to plug in and then solved the puzzle. Finally, I
> tackled the complex questions, the ones that change a rule or ask for the
> number of variations or something like that. Also, I learned to spot games
> that were easier than others and to prioritize, so I did the easier games
> first so I could spend more time stress-free on the harder games. Again,
> the
> key to all this for me was practice, practice, practice. I reached the
> point
> that before I took the exam, I was consistently getting 100% on every
logic
> games section, and even having fun with it. I highly recommend the chapter
> on logic games in the Princeton Review's Cracking the LSAT (it's on
> bookshare). Come up with your own system for diagramming, but the steps
> they
> outline to solving a logic game work really well.
> Hope this is helpful.
> Jameyanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
> McCarthy via BlindLaw
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 9:46 AM
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> Cc: Jim McCarthy <jmccarthy at mdtap.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT accomodations
>
> Nicole,
> I took the LSAT many years ago and did not do well on some of the logic
> games sets. I am totally blind and used a braille writer. The problem for
> me
> with this was that I could not move the items around quickly enough in the
> manner the question might direct. I do think this could be achieved with
> excel or a spread sheet program so at least one could put all in order as
> the question requires. From that point, it is at least some bit closer to
> equal in analyzing the layout of the characters and applying the
> conditions.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nicole
> Askins via BlindLaw
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 7:50 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List
> Cc: Nicole Askins
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] LSAT accomodations
>
> Just to expound on this commentary, how should a person with low vision
> best
> approach the logic games? I have taken this test before and was unable to
> fully demonstrate and complete this portion of the exam period should I
use
> an Excel spreadsheet? If so why and how?
>
> On Aug 8, 2016 5:55 AM, "J. Isaac via BlindLaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm slated to take the LSAT shortly.
> >
> >
> >
> > I've been reading through their accomodations page to formulate my
> request.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm interested in using a computer during the exam with a screen
> > reader and braille display for writing sample and question diagramming.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with this accommodation or alternatives?
> >
> >
> >
> > I would really appreciate hearing of your experiences on this exam.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > == J
> >
> >
> >
> >
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