[blindlaw] Information
Aimee Harwood
awildheir at gmail.com
Wed Oct 19 14:36:17 UTC 2016
Hello Elizabeth,
Make that two in regards to Anita's questions. Lol
Aimee
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 19, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Anita Keith-Foust via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Dear Elizabeth:
>
> I hope that you are well.
>
> I have been following this great discussion and it has been extremely informative. It will help me tremendously once I learn how to apply the information.
>
> How did you learn how to use the equipment? Did you have to experiment until you figured it out? Is there a class that the Apple Stores offer?
>
> I have an iPad Pro and have stopped using it because I have a Bluetooth keyboard that I use with my iPhone.
>
> I can't keep my place of where I am typing so I feel like I make a lot of time consuming errors. I was totally blind and some of my sight has come back. I still cannot see well and am classified as legally blind and low vision. I have attempted to learn Braille for the past year and I am slow as molasses on a cold winter morning. How do you manage to keep your productivity up? I need any suggestions that you have. Help!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Anita Keith-Foust
> 919-430-1978
>
> Sent from my iPhone. Please forgive typos.
>
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 1:27 PM, Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>> I can send Word documents as attachments to anyone or to a Windows computer mailbox of my own, either in Word or PDF, using the "share" utility in Word on my iPad. I can also send them to Dropbox and retrieve them from there to insert into my emails as attachments from anywhere that I can access Dropbox from the email address for that account. The "hand off" utility in Apple's operating systems should let you switch back and forth between your iOS device and your Mac, so that if you have Word installed on both machines you can start a project on one and finish on the other. I have a Mac, but haven't used this utility because I like working on my iPad the best.
>> Elizabeth
>>
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 10:04:11 -0400
>> From: "Luis Mendez" <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
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>> I agree with Elizabeth that as a productivity and reading tool the Ipad is great. However, I encountered more productivity challenges with the Mac Book Pro with both Pages and Word 2016. In the end I reverted to a Windows laptop for some aspects of my work. I also discovered to my delight that Dragon Professional 15 works very well with a braille display using either JAWS 17 or NV Access.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:50 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Dan Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Question for Elizabeth. How do you get Word documents from your iPad to your computer? Also, do you use a Mack computer as well? Does that work well transferring documents to Word on a Windows computer?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel K. Beitz
>> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> Rochester, MI 48307
>> Phone: (248) 841-9405
>> Fax: (248) 652-2729
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:40 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Cc: Michal Nowicki
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Although I love dictation in iOS, I personally would not want to have to rely on it to draft a memo, brief, or contract. However, a wireless keyboard or a Bluetooth Braille display with a Braille keyboard could make it work. Nevertheless, I don't intend to give up on Windows or my desktop computer anytime soon. Although I do also have a laptop, I use my desktop whenever I can because it is more powerful.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Michal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:18 AM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Elizabeth Rene <rene0373 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> If I had law school to do all over again, I'd get an iPad or an iPad Pro. I love mine, and do all my work on it. Both Word and Pages work beautifully on it, you can export in both Word and PDF from either app, and Pages takes dictation beautifully. VoiceOver works beautifully for legal research, and lets me read 1000+-page files comfortably. And, as a bonus, you don't have to keep memorizing new key combination commands. And you're not chained to a desk.
>> I used JAWS for years and years, and felt like a hostage every time an upgrade to the software was needed. Apple builds speech right into its operating systems. And the KNFB Reader app lets you scan what you can't get online.
>> Lastly, if that isn't clear and convincing evidence in the iPads favor, think of the bar review. I recently took the UBE (my second bar exam) using a course called BarMax, taught completely on the iPad, and passed right out of the box. And I could study outside or at Starbucks!
>> I rest my case.
>>
>> Elizabeth M Ren?
>> Attorney at Law
>> WSBA #10710
>> KCBA #21824
>> rene0373 at gmail.com
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:13:42 +0000
>> From: Tai Tomasi <ttomasi at driowa.org>
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Luis:
>>
>> Do you need any additional software or scripts to use Dragon with JAWS 17? By NV Access, are you referring to NVDA?
>>
>> Tai Tomasi, J.D.
>> Staff Attorney
>>
>>
>>
>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 9:04 AM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Luis Mendez <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> I agree with Elizabeth that as a productivity and reading tool the Ipad is great. However, I encountered more productivity challenges with the Mac Book Pro with both Pages and Word 2016. In the end I reverted to a Windows laptop for some aspects of my work. I also discovered to my delight that Dragon Professional 15 works very well with a braille display using either JAWS 17 or NV Access.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:50 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Dan Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Question for Elizabeth. How do you get Word documents from your iPad to your computer? Also, do you use a Mack computer as well? Does that work well transferring documents to Word on a Windows computer?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel K. Beitz
>> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> Rochester, MI 48307
>> Phone: (248) 841-9405
>> Fax: (248) 652-2729
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>>
>> www.wiennergould.com
>>
>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:40 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Cc: Michal Nowicki
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Although I love dictation in iOS, I personally would not want to have to rely on it to draft a memo, brief, or contract. However, a wireless keyboard or a Bluetooth Braille display with a Braille keyboard could make it work. Nevertheless, I don't intend to give up on Windows or my desktop computer anytime soon. Although I do also have a laptop, I use my desktop whenever I can because it is more powerful.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Michal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:18 AM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Elizabeth Rene <rene0373 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> If I had law school to do all over again, I'd get an iPad or an iPad Pro. I love mine, and do all my work on it. Both Word and Pages work beautifully on it, you can export in both Word and PDF from either app, and Pages takes dictation beautifully. VoiceOver works beautifully for legal research, and lets me read 1000+-page files comfortably. And, as a bonus, you don't have to keep memorizing new key combination commands. And you're not chained to a desk.
>> I used JAWS for years and years, and felt like a hostage every time an upgrade to the software was needed. Apple builds speech right into its operating systems. And the KNFB Reader app lets you scan what you can't get online.
>> Lastly, if that isn't clear and convincing evidence in the iPads favor, think of the bar review. I recently took the UBE (my second bar exam) using a course called BarMax, taught completely on the iPad, and passed right out of the box. And I could study outside or at Starbucks!
>> I rest my case.
>>
>> Elizabeth M Ren?
>> Attorney at Law
>> WSBA #10710
>> KCBA #21824
>> rene0373 at gmail.com
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>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:16:47 -0400
>> From: "Luis Mendez" <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>> Message-ID: <064301d22889$7ace0b80$706a2280$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> Good morning:
>>
>> I am using JAWS 17 and NV Access, A.K.A. NVDA with a Braille Edge 40, with no additional software other than the required drivers ver each screen reader. However, Dragon still requires bridge software to read back what is on the screen. I am eagerly awaiting further development of Access Bridge. I did have Jay-Say, but the upkeep was not cost effective.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 10:14 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Tai Tomasi <ttomasi at driowa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Luis:
>>
>> Do you need any additional software or scripts to use Dragon with JAWS 17? By NV Access, are you referring to NVDA?
>>
>> Tai Tomasi, J.D.
>> Staff Attorney
>>
>>
>>
>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org
>> www.driowa.org
>>
>> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 9:04 AM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Luis Mendez <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> I agree with Elizabeth that as a productivity and reading tool the Ipad is great. However, I encountered more productivity challenges with the Mac Book Pro with both Pages and Word 2016. In the end I reverted to a Windows laptop for some aspects of my work. I also discovered to my delight that Dragon Professional 15 works very well with a braille display using either JAWS 17 or NV Access.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:50 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Dan Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Question for Elizabeth. How do you get Word documents from your iPad to your computer? Also, do you use a Mack computer as well? Does that work well transferring documents to Word on a Windows computer?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel K. Beitz
>> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> Rochester, MI 48307
>> Phone: (248) 841-9405
>> Fax: (248) 652-2729
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>>
>> www.wiennergould.com
>>
>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:40 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Cc: Michal Nowicki
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Although I love dictation in iOS, I personally would not want to have to rely on it to draft a memo, brief, or contract. However, a wireless keyboard or a Bluetooth Braille display with a Braille keyboard could make it work. Nevertheless, I don't intend to give up on Windows or my desktop computer anytime soon. Although I do also have a laptop, I use my desktop whenever I can because it is more powerful.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Michal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:18 AM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Elizabeth Rene <rene0373 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> If I had law school to do all over again, I'd get an iPad or an iPad Pro. I love mine, and do all my work on it. Both Word and Pages work beautifully on it, you can export in both Word and PDF from either app, and Pages takes dictation beautifully. VoiceOver works beautifully for legal research, and lets me read 1000+-page files comfortably. And, as a bonus, you don't have to keep memorizing new key combination commands. And you're not chained to a desk.
>> I used JAWS for years and years, and felt like a hostage every time an upgrade to the software was needed. Apple builds speech right into its operating systems. And the KNFB Reader app lets you scan what you can't get online.
>> Lastly, if that isn't clear and convincing evidence in the iPads favor, think of the bar review. I recently took the UBE (my second bar exam) using a course called BarMax, taught completely on the iPad, and passed right out of the box. And I could study outside or at Starbucks!
>> I rest my case.
>>
>> Elizabeth M Ren?
>> Attorney at Law
>> WSBA #10710
>> KCBA #21824
>> rene0373 at gmail.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 15:23:44 +0000
>> From: Dan Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>> Message-ID:
>> <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681CAE5DC at DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> How do you get docs from the iPad to your windows laptop?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel K. Beitz
>> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> Rochester, MI? 48307
>> Phone:? (248) 841-9405
>> Fax:? (248) 652-2729
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>>
>> www.wiennergould.com
>>
>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached
>> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.? If you are
>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email
>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying,
>> or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to
>> this email is strictly prohibited.? Should you receive this communication in error,
>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning
>> us at (248) 841-9400.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:17 AM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Cc: Luis Mendez
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Good morning:
>>
>> I am using JAWS 17 and NV Access, A.K.A. NVDA with a Braille Edge 40, with no additional software other than the required drivers ver each screen reader. However, Dragon still requires bridge software to read back what is on the screen. I am eagerly awaiting further development of Access Bridge. I did have Jay-Say, but the upkeep was not cost effective.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 10:14 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Tai Tomasi <ttomasi at driowa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Luis:
>>
>> Do you need any additional software or scripts to use Dragon with JAWS 17? By NV Access, are you referring to NVDA?
>>
>> Tai Tomasi, J.D.
>> Staff Attorney
>>
>>
>>
>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org
>> www.driowa.org
>>
>> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities
>>
>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
>>
>> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 9:04 AM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Luis Mendez <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> I agree with Elizabeth that as a productivity and reading tool the Ipad is great. However, I encountered more productivity challenges with the Mac Book Pro with both Pages and Word 2016. In the end I reverted to a Windows laptop for some aspects of my work. I also discovered to my delight that Dragon Professional 15 works very well with a braille display using either JAWS 17 or NV Access.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:50 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Dan Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Question for Elizabeth. How do you get Word documents from your iPad to your computer? Also, do you use a Mack computer as well? Does that work well transferring documents to Word on a Windows computer?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel K. Beitz
>> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> Rochester, MI 48307
>> Phone: (248) 841-9405
>> Fax: (248) 652-2729
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>>
>> www.wiennergould.com
>>
>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:40 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Cc: Michal Nowicki
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Although I love dictation in iOS, I personally would not want to have to rely on it to draft a memo, brief, or contract. However, a wireless keyboard or a Bluetooth Braille display with a Braille keyboard could make it work. Nevertheless, I don't intend to give up on Windows or my desktop computer anytime soon. Although I do also have a laptop, I use my desktop whenever I can because it is more powerful.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Michal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:18 AM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Elizabeth Rene <rene0373 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> If I had law school to do all over again, I'd get an iPad or an iPad Pro. I love mine, and do all my work on it. Both Word and Pages work beautifully on it, you can export in both Word and PDF from either app, and Pages takes dictation beautifully. VoiceOver works beautifully for legal research, and lets me read 1000+-page files comfortably. And, as a bonus, you don't have to keep memorizing new key combination commands. And you're not chained to a desk.
>> I used JAWS for years and years, and felt like a hostage every time an upgrade to the software was needed. Apple builds speech right into its operating systems. And the KNFB Reader app lets you scan what you can't get online.
>> Lastly, if that isn't clear and convincing evidence in the iPads favor, think of the bar review. I recently took the UBE (my second bar exam) using a course called BarMax, taught completely on the iPad, and passed right out of the box. And I could study outside or at Starbucks!
>> I rest my case.
>>
>> Elizabeth M Ren?
>> Attorney at Law
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>> KCBA #21824
>> rene0373 at gmail.com
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 13:24:15 -0400
>> From: "Luis Mendez" <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Dan Beitz'" <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>, "'Blind Law Mailing
>> List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>> Message-ID: <06a401d2289b$49f376a0$ddda63e0$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> I use ICloud for which there is a Windows App, One Drive and Dropbox, depending on the workflow. I recommend storing documents to be accessed for reading on ICloud since they can be accessed with little effort from within Voice dream. I put my Word documents in One Drive, which makes Word the default app for opening them. I store very large project files on Dropbox.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Beitz [mailto:dbeitz at wiennergould.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:24 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Luis Mendez <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> How do you get docs from the iPad to your windows laptop?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel K. Beitz
>> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> Rochester, MI 48307
>> Phone: (248) 841-9405
>> Fax: (248) 652-2729
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>>
>> www.wiennergould.com
>>
>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:17 AM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Cc: Luis Mendez
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Good morning:
>>
>> I am using JAWS 17 and NV Access, A.K.A. NVDA with a Braille Edge 40, with no additional software other than the required drivers ver each screen reader. However, Dragon still requires bridge software to read back what is on the screen. I am eagerly awaiting further development of Access Bridge. I did have Jay-Say, but the upkeep was not cost effective.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 10:14 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Tai Tomasi <ttomasi at driowa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Luis:
>>
>> Do you need any additional software or scripts to use Dragon with JAWS 17? By NV Access, are you referring to NVDA?
>>
>> Tai Tomasi, J.D.
>> Staff Attorney
>>
>>
>>
>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 9:04 AM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Luis Mendez <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> I agree with Elizabeth that as a productivity and reading tool the Ipad is great. However, I encountered more productivity challenges with the Mac Book Pro with both Pages and Word 2016. In the end I reverted to a Windows laptop for some aspects of my work. I also discovered to my delight that Dragon Professional 15 works very well with a braille display using either JAWS 17 or NV Access.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:50 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Dan Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Question for Elizabeth. How do you get Word documents from your iPad to your computer? Also, do you use a Mack computer as well? Does that work well transferring documents to Word on a Windows computer?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel K. Beitz
>> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> Rochester, MI 48307
>> Phone: (248) 841-9405
>> Fax: (248) 652-2729
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>>
>> www.wiennergould.com
>>
>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:40 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Cc: Michal Nowicki
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Although I love dictation in iOS, I personally would not want to have to rely on it to draft a memo, brief, or contract. However, a wireless keyboard or a Bluetooth Braille display with a Braille keyboard could make it work. Nevertheless, I don't intend to give up on Windows or my desktop computer anytime soon. Although I do also have a laptop, I use my desktop whenever I can because it is more powerful.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Michal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:18 AM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Elizabeth Rene <rene0373 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> If I had law school to do all over again, I'd get an iPad or an iPad Pro. I love mine, and do all my work on it. Both Word and Pages work beautifully on it, you can export in both Word and PDF from either app, and Pages takes dictation beautifully. VoiceOver works beautifully for legal research, and lets me read 1000+-page files comfortably. And, as a bonus, you don't have to keep memorizing new key combination commands. And you're not chained to a desk.
>> I used JAWS for years and years, and felt like a hostage every time an upgrade to the software was needed. Apple builds speech right into its operating systems. And the KNFB Reader app lets you scan what you can't get online.
>> Lastly, if that isn't clear and convincing evidence in the iPads favor, think of the bar review. I recently took the UBE (my second bar exam) using a course called BarMax, taught completely on the iPad, and passed right out of the box. And I could study outside or at Starbucks!
>> I rest my case.
>>
>> Elizabeth M Ren?
>> Attorney at Law
>> WSBA #10710
>> KCBA #21824
>> rene0373 at gmail.com
>> _______________________________________________
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:33:58 +0000
>> From: Dan Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>
>> To: Luis Mendez <lmendez716 at gmail.com>, 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>> Message-ID:
>> <AA0FA234D2A3A745A64FC025D904D681CAE8AD at DAGN15b-e6.exg6.exghost.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Can you have several documents open at one time? How do you switch between them? Are there any limitations that make using Word or pages on the iPad less useful than on a desktop?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel K. Beitz
>> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> Rochester, MI? 48307
>> Phone:? (248) 841-9405
>> Fax:? (248) 652-2729
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>>
>> www.wiennergould.com
>>
>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached
>> to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged.? If you are
>> not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email
>> to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying,
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>> please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning
>> us at (248) 841-9400.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Luis Mendez [mailto:lmendez716 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 1:24 PM
>> To: Dan Beitz; 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Subject: RE: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> I use ICloud for which there is a Windows App, One Drive and Dropbox, depending on the workflow. I recommend storing documents to be accessed for reading on ICloud since they can be accessed with little effort from within Voice dream. I put my Word documents in One Drive, which makes Word the default app for opening them. I store very large project files on Dropbox.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Beitz [mailto:dbeitz at wiennergould.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:24 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Luis Mendez <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> How do you get docs from the iPad to your windows laptop?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel K. Beitz
>> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> Rochester, MI 48307
>> Phone: (248) 841-9405
>> Fax: (248) 652-2729
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>>
>> www.wiennergould.com
>>
>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:17 AM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Cc: Luis Mendez
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Good morning:
>>
>> I am using JAWS 17 and NV Access, A.K.A. NVDA with a Braille Edge 40, with no additional software other than the required drivers ver each screen reader. However, Dragon still requires bridge software to read back what is on the screen. I am eagerly awaiting further development of Access Bridge. I did have Jay-Say, but the upkeep was not cost effective.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 10:14 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Tai Tomasi <ttomasi at driowa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Luis:
>>
>> Do you need any additional software or scripts to use Dragon with JAWS 17? By NV Access, are you referring to NVDA?
>>
>> Tai Tomasi, J.D.
>> Staff Attorney
>>
>>
>>
>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
>> E-mail: ttomasi at driowa.org
>> www.driowa.org
>>
>> Our Mission: To defend and promote the human and legal rights of Iowans with disabilities
>>
>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
>>
>> This e-mail and any attachments contain information from the law firm of Disability Rights Iowa and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). This e-mail may contain privileged attorney-client communications or work product. Any dissemination by anyone other than an intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient, you are prohibited from any further viewing of the e-mail or any attachments or from making any use of the e-mail or attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail, any attachments, and all copies from any drives or storage media and destroy any printouts.
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 9:04 AM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Luis Mendez <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> I agree with Elizabeth that as a productivity and reading tool the Ipad is great. However, I encountered more productivity challenges with the Mac Book Pro with both Pages and Word 2016. In the end I reverted to a Windows laptop for some aspects of my work. I also discovered to my delight that Dragon Professional 15 works very well with a braille display using either JAWS 17 or NV Access.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:50 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Dan Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Question for Elizabeth. How do you get Word documents from your iPad to your computer? Also, do you use a Mack computer as well? Does that work well transferring documents to Word on a Windows computer?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel K. Beitz
>> Wienner & Gould, P.C.
>> 950 University Dr., Ste. 350
>> Rochester, MI 48307
>> Phone: (248) 841-9405
>> Fax: (248) 652-2729
>> dbeitz at wiennergould.com
>>
>> www.wiennergould.com
>>
>> This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering this email to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution or use of any of the information contained herein or attached to this email is strictly prohibited. Should you receive this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this email or by telephoning us at (248) 841-9400.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:40 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>> Cc: Michal Nowicki
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Although I love dictation in iOS, I personally would not want to have to rely on it to draft a memo, brief, or contract. However, a wireless keyboard or a Bluetooth Braille display with a Braille keyboard could make it work. Nevertheless, I don't intend to give up on Windows or my desktop computer anytime soon. Although I do also have a laptop, I use my desktop whenever I can because it is more powerful.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Michal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:18 AM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Elizabeth Rene <rene0373 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>
>> If I had law school to do all over again, I'd get an iPad or an iPad Pro. I love mine, and do all my work on it. Both Word and Pages work beautifully on it, you can export in both Word and PDF from either app, and Pages takes dictation beautifully. VoiceOver works beautifully for legal research, and lets me read 1000+-page files comfortably. And, as a bonus, you don't have to keep memorizing new key combination commands. And you're not chained to a desk.
>> I used JAWS for years and years, and felt like a hostage every time an upgrade to the software was needed. Apple builds speech right into its operating systems. And the KNFB Reader app lets you scan what you can't get online.
>> Lastly, if that isn't clear and convincing evidence in the iPads favor, think of the bar review. I recently took the UBE (my second bar exam) using a course called BarMax, taught completely on the iPad, and passed right out of the box. And I could study outside or at Starbucks!
>> I rest my case.
>>
>> Elizabeth M Ren?
>> Attorney at Law
>> WSBA #10710
>> KCBA #21824
>> rene0373 at gmail.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
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>> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:40:49 -0500
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>> That is one of the things I really don't like about Word on the iPad. You cannot have more than one document open at once. I do not know about pages
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>>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Dan Beitz via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Can you have several documents open at one time? How do you switch between them? Are there any limitations that make using Word or pages on the iPad less useful than on a desktop?
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Luis Mendez [mailto:lmendez716 at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 1:24 PM
>>> To: Dan Beitz; 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>>> Subject: RE: [blindlaw] Information
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>>> I use ICloud for which there is a Windows App, One Drive and Dropbox, depending on the workflow. I recommend storing documents to be accessed for reading on ICloud since they can be accessed with little effort from within Voice dream. I put my Word documents in One Drive, which makes Word the default app for opening them. I store very large project files on Dropbox.
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dan Beitz [mailto:dbeitz at wiennergould.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:24 AM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Luis Mendez <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: RE: [blindlaw] Information
>>>
>>> How do you get docs from the iPad to your windows laptop?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel K. Beitz
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>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:17 AM
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>>> Cc: Luis Mendez
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>>> Good morning:
>>>
>>> I am using JAWS 17 and NV Access, A.K.A. NVDA with a Braille Edge 40, with no additional software other than the required drivers ver each screen reader. However, Dragon still requires bridge software to read back what is on the screen. I am eagerly awaiting further development of Access Bridge. I did have Jay-Say, but the upkeep was not cost effective.
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>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
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>>> Luis:
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>>> Do you need any additional software or scripts to use Dragon with JAWS 17? By NV Access, are you referring to NVDA?
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luis Mendez via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 9:04 AM
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>>> Cc: Luis Mendez <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
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>>> I agree with Elizabeth that as a productivity and reading tool the Ipad is great. However, I encountered more productivity challenges with the Mac Book Pro with both Pages and Word 2016. In the end I reverted to a Windows laptop for some aspects of my work. I also discovered to my delight that Dragon Professional 15 works very well with a braille display using either JAWS 17 or NV Access.
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Beitz via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:50 PM
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>>> Cc: Dan Beitz <dbeitz at wiennergould.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
>>>
>>> Question for Elizabeth. How do you get Word documents from your iPad to your computer? Also, do you use a Mack computer as well? Does that work well transferring documents to Word on a Windows computer?
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>>>
>>>
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>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:40 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
>>> Cc: Michal Nowicki
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
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>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Although I love dictation in iOS, I personally would not want to have to rely on it to draft a memo, brief, or contract. However, a wireless keyboard or a Bluetooth Braille display with a Braille keyboard could make it work. Nevertheless, I don't intend to give up on Windows or my desktop computer anytime soon. Although I do also have a laptop, I use my desktop whenever I can because it is more powerful.
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>>> Best,
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>>> Michal
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>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Rene via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:18 AM
>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Elizabeth Rene <rene0373 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Information
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>>> If I had law school to do all over again, I'd get an iPad or an iPad Pro. I love mine, and do all my work on it. Both Word and Pages work beautifully on it, you can export in both Word and PDF from either app, and Pages takes dictation beautifully. VoiceOver works beautifully for legal research, and lets me read 1000+-page files comfortably. And, as a bonus, you don't have to keep memorizing new key combination commands. And you're not chained to a desk.
>>> I used JAWS for years and years, and felt like a hostage every time an upgrade to the software was needed. Apple builds speech right into its operating systems. And the KNFB Reader app lets you scan what you can't get online.
>>> Lastly, if that isn't clear and convincing evidence in the iPads favor, think of the bar review. I recently took the UBE (my second bar exam) using a course called BarMax, taught completely on the iPad, and passed right out of the box. And I could study outside or at Starbucks!
>>> I rest my case.
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