[blindlaw] Track Changes

Wed Jun 13 03:27:50 UTC 2018

I don't have that issue with inserting comments.  I also don't think that
using the JAWS features with track changes are all that bad, given how
difficultthose kinds of shared editing tasks are to do with screen readers.

Also, I believe you can set JAWS to announce changes in font such as color
or strike-through. I don't know how to do it myself, but I think someone
here has discussed it previously. I think you can jump between changes in
font color or whatever by messing with the text analyzer settings maybe?

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I understand how tracked changes are supposed to work and I can use them,
but there are plenty of bugs. If you use a Braille display, the cursor
position is almost always inaccurate surrounding track changes. (The same is
true with numbered lists and various cross-reference fields and is dreadful
with autonumbered lists such as one uses for exhibit identifiers in
affidavits.) Further, inserting comments sometimes causes JAWS to freeze or
to stop interacting with a document until both JAWS and Word are restarted.
Whatever Freedom Scientific have done with this feature, they clearly
haven't tested it very well.

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If anyone has an answer please share it as I too have problems with track
changes and it is a massive pain.

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Subject: [blindlaw] Track Changes

I still have one more category of questioning, and with that, I promise to
pipe down for a bit. Among you JAWS users and editing using red line and/or
track changes, how do you find JAWS' level of access? Is it good? Is it
reliable? Can you confidently identify what text has been deleted or added?
Those who use or have experience with another screen reader, do you find it
easy to manage track changes?

I ask because I have been explaining to my firm the challenges of using JAWS
with track changes and hence the need to have some good alternatives. Some
people find it incredible that there is no good and reliable technology that
can handle something like track and do so entirely non-visually. I thought I
would confirm with all of you myself before I politely maintain my line.
From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:03 PM
To: Singh, Nandini
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Hi,

I haven't used that function, but think you might find what you are looking
for here:
https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/
TrackChanges/02-WordTrackChangesWithJAWS.htm
You've got me curious to try this out.

Brian
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From: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com<mailto:NSingh at cov.com>>
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<BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com<mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>>
Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Thanks. I think I figured out what is going on with sentences, and I like
the insert-control-F idea. That works better. I do have another question. I
am working with a group that is quite fond of track changes. Is there a
quick way to accept all changes in a document? If so, is there a keystroke?

From: Brian Unitt [mailto:BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:15 PM
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Subject: RE: JAWS 2018

Hi Nikki,

I can't duplicate those issues as I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7.  I
can suggest trying the JAWS find command insert-control-f.  I find I have to
use that in programs like Acrobat Reader where the regular control-f doesn't
work properly.

You might also check the knowledge base on the JAWS website to make sure
your Windows 10 settings are optimized for JAWS.  Then definitely let the
tech support people know about the issue, in my experience they are very
helpful.

Best,

Brian
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Subject: [blindlaw] JAWS 2018

this may warrant an email to FS, but can anyone tell me why basic functions
of JAWS may fail to work correctly? I am on JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. My
find command, using control-F, and "read sentence," with the use of alt up
or down arrow, do not work at all. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Nikki
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