[blindLaw] QRead As a Substitute for Adobe Reader

Fri Aug 9 15:31:07 UTC 2019

Wow! Preview is productive these days? I used it back in 2015 my In first semester of law school. It was horrible. I had to take so many steps to do my work it I was horrible. I had to take a leave of absence and the rest was down hill from there. How has it improved? Can you now copy text and paste it into another document and it actually paste text instead of an image of the page? 

Aimee

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> On Aug 9, 2019, at 11:13 AM, Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I use a combination of QRead, Adobe, Kurzweil 1000 and occasionally try out Microsoft Edge of all things. I also turn to VoiceDream Reader on iOS to skim large PDFs. On the Mac side, Preview has proven remarkably robust as of late.
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2019, at 7:57 AM, Cody Davis via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I typically utilize OpenBook to OCR and read PDF’s. Does anyone have any thoughts on OpenBook compared to ABBYY, QRead, or other software? I’m just wondering if I could be using something better. 
>> 
>> Cody
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2019, at 10:46 AM, Derek Dittmar via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I still use QRead daily. I'll second that it has issues with pulling
>>> out text from graphs and charts. Also, I have a hard time using
>>> control+down arrow to go by paragraph. However, the page navigation,
>>> robust bookmarking, speed, and ability to have multiple pdfs open at
>>> the same time (with a quick ability to navigate between) has
>>> definitely helped me out.
>>> 
>>>> On 8/7/19, Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> JAWS recently added support for Foxit Reader. I think QRead is great for
>>>> reviewing larger PDFs, but its text extraction can be rather eccentric, and
>>>> can really mangle things like tables.
>>>> 
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>> Aser Tolentino, Esq.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 06:17, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have used the demo version of QRead and may get the full version at
>>>>> some point. I have been reasonably impressed with its performance; it
>>>>> definitely opens documents faster than Adobe.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/7/19, Robert Munro via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I use PDF Pen on my Mac; unfortunately, they don’t make a windows
>>>>>> version.
>>>>>> Here are some suggestions they have for Windows users. The first one is
>>>>>> free, so it’s worth seeing how it works with JAWS.
>>>>>> https://alternativeto.net/software/pdfpen/?platform=windows
>>>>>> <https://alternativeto.net/software/pdfpen/?platform=windows>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Onward!
>>>>>> Robert Munro
>>>>>> r.g.munro at gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6 Aug, 2019, at 11:16 PM, Rod Alcidonis via BlindLaw
>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I use QRead and it is a good app but not a replacement for a more rebuts
>>>>>>> PDF application such as ABBYY. I process all of my OCR in ABBYY and
>>>>>>> convert the material into a Word doc for consumption.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> QRead will not convert image-scanned PDF documents, but it is good with
>>>>>>> accessible PDf-formatted  manuals and alike.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 10:01 AM
>>>>>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Rahul Bajaj
>>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] QRead As a Substitute for Adobe Reader
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So it turns out that ABBYY Fine Reader does not work as a viable
>>>>>>> substitute for Adobe Reader to read PDF documents as such. JAWS simply
>>>>>>> refuses to interact with the document if you open it in ABBYY - Amar
>>>>>>> has confirmed this finding as well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When I had posted a question about the problems attending the
>>>>>>> navigation of PDF documents with JAWS last year, Derek, in the email
>>>>>>> below, alluded to an app called QRead which costs around $30. I am
>>>>>>> wondering if others here have used this application and have found it
>>>>>>> to be a viable substitute for Adobe Reader. Specifically, I am
>>>>>>> wondering if it enables you to smoothly read PDFs in para-wise form
>>>>>>> and if JAWS does not lose focus while reading the document. If it is a
>>>>>>> viable substitute, I will purchase it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: Derek Dittmar <derekjdittmar at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 12:58:05 -0500
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Reading PDFs with JAWS has become infeasible
>>>>>>> To: Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rahul,
>>>>>>> I hope this e-mail finds you well. As a third year law student, I
>>>>>>> primarily use a small application from an indi blind developer called
>>>>>>> QRead.
>>>>>>> https://q-continuum.net/qread/
>>>>>>> Most of my use of PDFs involves working through assigned readings in
>>>>>>> electronic textbooks. I know that QRead does not allow for editing
>>>>>>> within pdfs. However, if all you need is a relatively inexpensive (I
>>>>>>> think it was $30) pdf reader with good JAWs accessibility, then I
>>>>>>> think it might work.
>>>>>>> As a  note, I am still using JAWS 16 (ugh). Also, I learned about
>>>>>>> QRead from a personal friend who was (and maybe is) working with the
>>>>>>> developer for marketing. However, I haven't consulted with her in
>>>>>>> sending you this e-mail, and by no means do I get any sort of benefit
>>>>>>> from recommending the application. I will tell you that I'm working on
>>>>>>> an LL.M. right now, and have about twelve PDFs open in the application
>>>>>>> -- several law review articles and a few multi-hundred page textbooks
>>>>>>> -- and it is working just fine.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 11/10/18, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have JAWSb 2018 and acrobat dc. Jaws keeps automatically jumping up
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> down in PDFs when you select 'read entire document'. Control+up and
>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>> arrows also doesn't work for para-wise navigation; jaws says blank.
>>>>>>>> Finally,
>>>>>>>> even ctrl+shift+n works sporadically.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have spoken with VFO. They say that the first 2 problems, at least,
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> been widely reported in recent weeks. I am using OCR and word versions
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> ad
>>>>>>>> hoc measures. Do others have any ideas, or can they report this to FS
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> Adobe if they are facing it?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Rahul Bajaj
>>>>>>> Candidate for the BCL
>>>>>>> Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
>>>>>>> University of Oxford
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>>>>> --
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