[blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law Library Open to the Public

Thu Aug 29 12:46:34 UTC 2019

I took the New York bar with a Braille note taker, electronic version of the exam loaded onto a laptop, extra time, and a scribe. The bar exam was a surprisingly pleasant experience in terms of getting accommodations.

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Another question:how many people have applied for and been granted the use of a braillenote for the actual bar exam?
I ask because I do not wish to jeopardize future accommodations.
Please help--thank you.

On 8/28/19, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Well, a lot of times if they get the searchable PDF from the 
> publisher, as my school frequently did, there would not be headings 
> that would remain if the book was, for example, converted to HTML.
> That isn't the school's fault, necessarily, and it actually could take 
> a lot of work for the school to add in all of it. I pretty much only 
> used PDF  books for my classes unless they were on Bookshare, and 
> never had much of a problem.
>
> Which NFB documentation are you referring to?
>
>
>
> On 8/28/19, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Paul and Kelby,
>>
>> We could not seek any outside help with any graded writing 
>> assignments. As for not converting books, that was across the board 
>> with all provided material. As long as it was a searchable pdf, it 
>> was sufficient. No headings or list identification for exams. They 
>> did not think they should follow the guidance of the NFB on 
>> accessible documents even though I provided the information as proof 
>> I was not asking for more than what was reasonable.
>>
>> Aimee
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Paul Wick via BlindLaw 
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Kelby,
>>>
>>> I think she was referring to the practice of a single class (called 
>>> Appellate Advocacy at my school) and extrapolating to the school in 
>>> general, but that’s just my guess.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw 
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have never heard of a law school with these sorts of policies.
>>>>
>>>> Was there a reason they could not convert the PDFs to Word or HTML?
>>>> Even Adobe Acrobat can do that with reasonable success, not to 
>>>> mention more advanced OCR software.
>>>>
>>>> I've also never heard of being forbidden to ask a Lexis/Westlaw rep 
>>>> for assistance with using their sites for research. This sounds 
>>>> like an unusual and sub-par law school--I can tell you that my 
>>>> experience was nothing like this.
>>>>
>>>> Additionally, there are some free resources for searching case law 
>>>> out there, though they aren't wonderful. Besides that, it might 
>>>> also be worth Googling your topics to see if you can find law 
>>>> review articles--a lot of law schools put them online for free, and 
>>>> it might be a place to start.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/28/19, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Thank you so much, Elizabeth. It is a very small school. Bret, the 
>>>>> law librarian I worked with was in fact helpful. When we learned 
>>>>> about legal research there, they skipped over the print materials 
>>>>> and the catalogue because I would be able to find everything I 
>>>>> needed on lexis and westlaw. I do not assume, per se, to 
>>>>> experience resistance. However, based on prior experience, I 
>>>>> suspect strongly the possibility. In other words, I hope to be met 
>>>>> with willingness but want to be prepared based on historical 
>>>>> behavior.
>>>>> Bret, however nice he is, will still have to go to the same people 
>>>>> who gave me so much resistance before. Unless, now that I think 
>>>>> about it, there is a different person handling accommodations for 
>>>>> the public than the person who handles accommodations for 
>>>>> students. 🤔 I might be on to something here.
>>>>> Would this be the person who handles title IX? I know this is 
>>>>> covered by title IV of the ADA but I know they have a specific 
>>>>> title IX person.
>>>>> Until
>>>>> now I've been thinking it would be the same channel for students 
>>>>> but i might need to go through someone entirely different.🤔
>>>>>
>>>>> As for locating info on VR. I am looking for binding precedents 
>>>>> relevant to my situation. Thus the need for case law.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for Aira, I have informed the school of the service and 
>>>>> availability of the site access program. I highly doubt they have 
>>>>> moved on the suggestion.
>>>>> It was suggested that the school would  not admit a blind student 
>>>>> in the future due to their inability to provide services based on 
>>>>> administrative burden. So, I doubt they will become a Site Access 
>>>>> Location for Aira because they will not have a need or compelling 
>>>>> reason to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 6:12 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via BlindLaw
>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Amy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe you can find information regarding rehabilitation services
>>>>>> online without using any of the law databases. It should be rather
>>>>>> easy
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> find the Rehabilitation Act as amended online. However, since each
>>>>>> state
>>>>>> has their own procedures and policies regarding vocational
>>>>>> rehabilitation
>>>>>> services, it would be wise to contact your state vocational
>>>>>> rehabilitation
>>>>>> agency to obtain a copy of the state plan regarding vocational
>>>>>> rehabilitation services for your particular state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, if the library is able to assist you in finding print copies of
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> you are looking for in terns of your research, is there any way that
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> could simply be scanned so you can access it on your own? It would
>>>>>> seem
>>>>>> reasonable for the library to provide the public with a way of being
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to copy or save the print materials they find in the library if they
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> not able to gain access to it using the databases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand you encountered some trouble with this college or
>>>>>> university
>>>>>> before when you were a student. However, were your problems directly
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the staff at the library? If not, then I would give them a chance
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> assuming you will encounter problems with them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It has been my experience that simply because you encounter unfriendly
>>>>>> people in one department of a college or university that it does not
>>>>>> automatically mean that you will be treated the same way when working
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> other people who work in a different department. So I encourage yu to
>>>>>> give
>>>>>> the people in the library a chance before assuming they will not be
>>>>>> willing to work with you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a student I have also learned that a preferred accommodation is not
>>>>>> always a reasonable accommodation that a college or university can
>>>>>> provide. For example, if the library is not able to install JAWS or
>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>> on one of their computers, but instead provides you with a reader that
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> willing to help you, then they are providing you with a reasonable
>>>>>> accommodation even though it may not be your preferred accommodation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally, have you contacted Aira to see if they have become a site
>>>>>> access
>>>>>> since you were a student at this particular college or university? Or
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> there a way to use BE My Eyes instead of Aira to help you conduct yur
>>>>>> research? I am not familiar with these services, so I am not sure if
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> is a vast difference between them except for the fact that one is free
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the other requires a paid subscription for extended use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sincerely hope you are able to find a way to conduct your research.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aimee
>>>>>> Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:03 PM
>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law Library
>>>>>> Open
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the Public
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maura,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I cannot see them being willing to provide an assistant to help me
>>>>>> locate
>>>>>> and reed the print materials. I will most likely be conducting
>>>>>> in-depth
>>>>>> research regarding a few topics. I intend to be there during the
>>>>>> entire
>>>>>> time it is open to the public. It may take a couple weeks. Could take
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> than a couple weeks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Broad Topic 1: Vocational Rehabilitation Services what they can and
>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Broad Topic 2: Sidewalks, the ADA, and the blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Broad Topic 3: Public Transportation, the ADA, and the Blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With this said, it would be more realistic for them to allow access to
>>>>>> lexis and westlaw.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I should contact lexis and westlaw to see what their position on
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> situation such as this would be.🤔
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are independent access and reasonable accommodations equivalent?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>>> 716-563-9882
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 2:12 PM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks James. That's what I was thinking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My issue then is how do I, independently, make use of the print
>>>>>>>> material
>>>>>>>> available? Would Lexis and westlaw be an accommodation for the print
>>>>>>>> materials?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 2:04 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Probably, because you would be requesting a "fundamental
>>>>>>>>> alteration"
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> their services available to the public and possibly asking them to
>>>>>>>>> breach their agreement with Westlaw and Lexis, if there is one, to
>>>>>>>>> restrict it to law students. However, you can request that Jaws or
>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>> be installed on the public access computers. If they fight you on
>>>>>>>>> that,
>>>>>>>>> then you have every right to make a lot of noise.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/27/2019 1:48 PM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, guys. I visited the law library web site and looked at their
>>>>>>>>>> policies. They only give access to free resources for the general
>>>>>>>>>> public.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is exactly what it says.
>>>>>>>>>> "Commercial databases are for use by students, faculty and staff
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> Widener Law Commonwealth.
>>>>>>>>>> Off-campus access to the library databases is restricted to law
>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>> students, faculty and staff. Login requires the barcode number on
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> back of your Widener ID card.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Patrons are permitted to use designated computers to search the
>>>>>>>>>> library catalog and access free resources. Assistance is provided
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> needed. Library personnel can assist with research but will not
>>>>>>>>>> conduct research on behalf of patrons. "
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does this indicate I cannot request access to lexis and westlaw as
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> accommodation?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:29 PM, Daniel McBride via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> George:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> At the time I met with the Assistant County Administrator, they
>>>>>>>>>>> spoke
>>>>>>>>>>> with Westlaw, Lexus and JAWS. To safeguard all interested
>>>>>>>>>>> parties'
>>>>>>>>>>> licensing agreements, putting JAWS on their computer was their
>>>>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It was fine with me as the County Law Library is now accessible
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> all blind residents as long as they know how to use JAWS. And I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> sure that's more than what the other 253 counties in Texas are
>>>>>>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 7:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law
>>>>>>>>>>> Library
>>>>>>>>>>> Open to the Public
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This would be a wonderful solution. I would be happy to bring my
>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>> computer. I am concerned they will refuse me access to lexis and
>>>>>>>>>>> westlaw though. If they do refuse me access to lexis and westlaw,
>>>>>>>>>>> would that count? Would I then be able to file against them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Jorge Paez via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would they need to install JAWS?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn???t you just bring your own computer and get set up with
>>>>>>>>>>>> their network either through Ethernet or Wifi?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I???m guessing you???d use your library information to
>>>>>>>>>>>> authenticate
>>>>>>>>>>>> with their Lexis or WestLaw licenses?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Daniel McBride via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Broward College.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT click links or open attachments unless are expecting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> information and you recognize the sender.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The law library I use is the Tarrant County Law Library,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> operated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> County and funded by taxpayers money, which might make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any event, some years back, I approached the Assistant
>>>>>>>>>>>>> County
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator about my access to the library materials. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>> asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be done to provide access to persons who are blind and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JAWS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The County purchased JAWS and installed same on their public
>>>>>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the front of the library. With this, I have access to every
>>>>>>>>>>>>> research
>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform imaginable, including Lexus and Westlaw.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes, a conversation with the appropriate authority solves
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this type of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue. Sometimes not. The worst they can do is say no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel McBride
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort Worth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 11:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law Library
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really not sure why nobody has responded to this. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> politely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for your advise. Surely someone here can offer a suggestion or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> two.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm resending this email as I need to do a good bit of legal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> research very
>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon. I have requested assistance from this list  for the below
>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerns. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expect difficulties at the location I must utilize to conduct
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> research.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you guys please read and advise on the below information. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fully prepared to respond appropriately when I face the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resistance
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for accommodations. If there are additional details needed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> effectively
>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer my questions, I will be glad to provide for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clarification. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do need your assistance and most certainly appreciate any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a few questions about (1) access at law libraries open
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the public,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) possible accommodations, and (3) if denied accommodations
>>>>>>>>>>>>> filing an OCR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> complaint that possibly includes prior issues I experienced
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> student.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) Has anybody had experience visiting a law library and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> receiving
>>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodations  to permit them to do independant legal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> research?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> visit a law library to do some legal research. The closest one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the school
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I attended and had so much problems with regarding
>>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> go, I would like to know my rights for accessing content at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> library as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> member of the public.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) What accommodations can I  request? Can I request a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with JAWS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and access to lexis and westlaw?  I have sent them info on Aira
>>>>>>>>>>>>> since I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dismissed hoping they would utilize it if they ever had another
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>> student in the future. Could I ask for them to provide Aira
>>>>>>>>>>>>> access?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a paid Aira subscription and cannot afford one at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> avenue will only be helpful if they are a site access.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (3) If I do not get any of the assistance you recommend, can I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an OCR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> complaint for this incident? Is it possible to relate it back
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had as a student?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I greatly appreciate any and all advice in this matter as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been very
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitent to do the research but it really needs to be done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most
>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a fight with them. I have been very apprehensive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> approach
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this request.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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University of Michigan
International studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies;
Law, Justice, and Social Change
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