[blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law Library Open to the Public

kelby carlson kelbycarlson at gmail.com
Thu Aug 29 14:51:53 UTC 2019 

For what it's worth, I did just fine in law school with searchable PDFs, which I usually converted to an easier format, as well as Bookshare books when they were already on the site or I had enough time to request them.

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> On Aug 29, 2019, at 10:43 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I never encountered this type of outsourcing during college or law school. Who does the conversions of these documents?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kelby,
>> 
>> It is common, even at the community college level to outsource book conversions so the student has a properly tagged and formatted book. At least that is what I have been finding out now after the fact. The outsourcing of the job frees up the staff to take care of other duties and also gives the student a productively navigable book. None of the books I received had headings or anything. They didn't even have proper pagination I could not go to page 225 in my book and have it be the same page 225 the other students had. As for the nfb documentation, I will see if I can locate it. It was very detailed instructions on what a truly accessible document includes in the different formats. 
>> 
>> Aimee
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, a lot of times if they get the searchable PDF from the
>>> publisher, as my school frequently did, there would not be headings
>>> that would remain if the book was, for example, converted to HTML.
>>> That isn't the school's fault, necessarily, and it actually could take
>>> a lot of work for the school to add in all of it. I pretty much only
>>> used PDF  books for my classes unless they were on Bookshare, and
>>> never had much of a problem.
>>> 
>>> Which NFB documentation are you referring to?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8/28/19, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Paul and Kelby,
>>>> 
>>>> We could not seek any outside help with any graded writing assignments. As
>>>> for not converting books, that was across the board with all provided
>>>> material. As long as it was a searchable pdf, it was sufficient. No headings
>>>> or list identification for exams. They did not think they should follow the
>>>> guidance of the NFB on accessible documents even though I provided the
>>>> information as proof I was not asking for more than what was reasonable.
>>>> 
>>>> Aimee
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Paul Wick via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kelby,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think she was referring to the practice of a single class (called
>>>>> Appellate Advocacy at my school) and extrapolating to the school in
>>>>> general, but that’s just my guess.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw
>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have never heard of a law school with these sorts of policies.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Was there a reason they could not convert the PDFs to Word or HTML?
>>>>>> Even Adobe Acrobat can do that with reasonable success, not to mention
>>>>>> more advanced OCR software.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've also never heard of being forbidden to ask a Lexis/Westlaw rep
>>>>>> for assistance with using their sites for research. This sounds like
>>>>>> an unusual and sub-par law school--I can tell you that my experience
>>>>>> was nothing like this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Additionally, there are some free resources for searching case law out
>>>>>> there, though they aren't wonderful. Besides that, it might also be
>>>>>> worth Googling your topics to see if you can find law review
>>>>>> articles--a lot of law schools put them online for free, and it might
>>>>>> be a place to start.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 8/28/19, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thank you so much, Elizabeth. It is a very small school. Bret, the law
>>>>>>> librarian I worked with was in fact helpful. When we learned about legal
>>>>>>> research there, they skipped over the print materials and the catalogue
>>>>>>> because I would be able to find everything I needed on lexis and
>>>>>>> westlaw. I
>>>>>>> do not assume, per se, to experience resistance. However, based on prior
>>>>>>> experience, I suspect strongly the possibility. In other words, I hope
>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>> met with willingness but want to be prepared based on historical
>>>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>>> Bret, however nice he is, will still have to go to the same people who
>>>>>>> gave
>>>>>>> me so much resistance before. Unless, now that I think about it, there
>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>> different person handling accommodations for the public than the person
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> handles accommodations for students. 🤔 I might be on to something here.
>>>>>>> Would this be the person who handles title IX? I know this is covered by
>>>>>>> title IV of the ADA but I know they have a specific title IX person.
>>>>>>> Until
>>>>>>> now I've been thinking it would be the same channel for students but i
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>> need to go through someone entirely different.🤔
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As for locating info on VR. I am looking for binding precedents relevant
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> my situation. Thus the need for case law.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As for Aira, I have informed the school of the service and availability
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the site access program. I highly doubt they have moved on the
>>>>>>> suggestion.
>>>>>>> It was suggested that the school would  not admit a blind student in the
>>>>>>> future due to their inability to provide services based on
>>>>>>> administrative
>>>>>>> burden. So, I doubt they will become a Site Access Location for Aira
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> they will not have a need or compelling reason to do it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 6:12 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello Amy,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I believe you can find information regarding rehabilitation services
>>>>>>>> online without using any of the law databases. It should be rather easy
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> find the Rehabilitation Act as amended online. However, since each
>>>>>>>> state
>>>>>>>> has their own procedures and policies regarding vocational
>>>>>>>> rehabilitation
>>>>>>>> services, it would be wise to contact your state vocational
>>>>>>>> rehabilitation
>>>>>>>> agency to obtain a copy of the state plan regarding vocational
>>>>>>>> rehabilitation services for your particular state.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also, if the library is able to assist you in finding print copies of
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> you are looking for in terns of your research, is there any way that it
>>>>>>>> could simply be scanned so you can access it on your own? It would seem
>>>>>>>> reasonable for the library to provide the public with a way of being
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>> to copy or save the print materials they find in the library if they
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> not able to gain access to it using the databases.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I understand you encountered some trouble with this college or
>>>>>>>> university
>>>>>>>> before when you were a student. However, were your problems directly
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the staff at the library? If not, then I would give them a chance
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>> assuming you will encounter problems with them.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It has been my experience that simply because you encounter unfriendly
>>>>>>>> people in one department of a college or university that it does not
>>>>>>>> automatically mean that you will be treated the same way when working
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> other people who work in a different department. So I encourage yu to
>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>> the people in the library a chance before assuming they will not be
>>>>>>>> willing to work with you.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As a student I have also learned that a preferred accommodation is not
>>>>>>>> always a reasonable accommodation that a college or university can
>>>>>>>> provide. For example, if the library is not able to install JAWS or
>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>> on one of their computers, but instead provides you with a reader that
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> willing to help you, then they are providing you with a reasonable
>>>>>>>> accommodation even though it may not be your preferred accommodation.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Finally, have you contacted Aira to see if they have become a site
>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>> since you were a student at this particular college or university? Or
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> there a way to use BE My Eyes instead of Aira to help you conduct yur
>>>>>>>> research? I am not familiar with these services, so I am not sure if
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> is a vast difference between them except for the fact that one is free
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the other requires a paid subscription for extended use.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I sincerely hope you are able to find a way to conduct your research.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aimee
>>>>>>>> Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:03 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law Library Open
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the Public
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Maura,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I cannot see them being willing to provide an assistant to help me
>>>>>>>> locate
>>>>>>>> and reed the print materials. I will most likely be conducting in-depth
>>>>>>>> research regarding a few topics. I intend to be there during the entire
>>>>>>>> time it is open to the public. It may take a couple weeks. Could take
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> than a couple weeks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Broad Topic 1: Vocational Rehabilitation Services what they can and
>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Broad Topic 2: Sidewalks, the ADA, and the blind
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Broad Topic 3: Public Transportation, the ADA, and the Blind
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> With this said, it would be more realistic for them to allow access to
>>>>>>>> lexis and westlaw.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maybe I should contact lexis and westlaw to see what their position on
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> situation such as this would be.🤔
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Are independent access and reasonable accommodations equivalent?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>>>>> 716-563-9882
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 2:12 PM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks James. That's what I was thinking.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> My issue then is how do I, independently, make use of the print
>>>>>>>>>> material
>>>>>>>>>> available? Would Lexis and westlaw be an accommodation for the print
>>>>>>>>>> materials?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 2:04 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Probably, because you would be requesting a "fundamental alteration"
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> their services available to the public and possibly asking them to
>>>>>>>>>>> breach their agreement with Westlaw and Lexis, if there is one, to
>>>>>>>>>>> restrict it to law students. However, you can request that Jaws or
>>>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>>>> be installed on the public access computers. If they fight you on
>>>>>>>>>>> that,
>>>>>>>>>>> then you have every right to make a lot of noise.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/27/2019 1:48 PM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, guys. I visited the law library web site and looked at their
>>>>>>>>>>>> policies. They only give access to free resources for the general
>>>>>>>>>>>> public.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is exactly what it says.
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Commercial databases are for use by students, faculty and staff of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Widener Law Commonwealth.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Off-campus access to the library databases is restricted to law
>>>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>>>> students, faculty and staff. Login requires the barcode number on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> back of your Widener ID card.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Patrons are permitted to use designated computers to search the
>>>>>>>>>>>> library catalog and access free resources. Assistance is provided
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed. Library personnel can assist with research but will not
>>>>>>>>>>>> conduct research on behalf of patrons. "
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does this indicate I cannot request access to lexis and westlaw as
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodation?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:29 PM, Daniel McBride via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> George:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the time I met with the Assistant County Administrator, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoke
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Westlaw, Lexus and JAWS. To safeguard all interested parties'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> licensing agreements, putting JAWS on their computer was their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was fine with me as the County Law Library is now accessible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all blind residents as long as they know how to use JAWS. And I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure that's more than what the other 253 counties in Texas are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 7:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law Library
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open to the Public
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would be a wonderful solution. I would be happy to bring my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. I am concerned they will refuse me access to lexis and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> westlaw though. If they do refuse me access to lexis and westlaw,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would that count? Would I then be able to file against them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Jorge Paez via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would they need to install JAWS?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn???t you just bring your own computer and get set up with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their network either through Ethernet or Wifi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I???m guessing you???d use your library information to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authenticate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with their Lexis or WestLaw licenses?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Daniel McBride via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Broward College.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT click links or open attachments unless are expecting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information and you recognize the sender.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The law library I use is the Tarrant County Law Library,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> County and funded by taxpayers money, which might make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any event, some years back, I approached the Assistant County
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator about my access to the library materials. He asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be done to provide access to persons who are blind and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JAWS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The County purchased JAWS and installed same on their public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the front of the library. With this, I have access to every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform imaginable, including Lexus and Westlaw.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes, a conversation with the appropriate authority solves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this type of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue. Sometimes not. The worst they can do is say no.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel McBride
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort Worth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harwood via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 11:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Accommodations When Visiting a Law Library
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really not sure why nobody has responded to this. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for your advise. Surely someone here can offer a suggestion or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm resending this email as I need to do a good bit of legal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon. I have requested assistance from this list  for the below
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerns. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expect difficulties at the location I must utilize to conduct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you guys please read and advise on the below information. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fully prepared to respond appropriately when I face the expected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resistance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for accommodations. If there are additional details needed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effectively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer my questions, I will be glad to provide for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clarification. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do need your assistance and most certainly appreciate any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a few questions about (1) access at law libraries open to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the public,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) possible accommodations, and (3) if denied accommodations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filing an OCR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complaint that possibly includes prior issues I experienced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> student.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) Has anybody had experience visiting a law library and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receiving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodations  to permit them to do independant legal research?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visit a law library to do some legal research. The closest one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the school
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I attended and had so much problems with regarding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go, I would like to know my rights for accessing content at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> library as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> member of the public.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) What accommodations can I  request? Can I request a computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with JAWS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and access to lexis and westlaw?  I have sent them info on Aira
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dismissed hoping they would utilize it if they ever had another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> student in the future. Could I ask for them to provide Aira
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a paid Aira subscription and cannot afford one at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avenue will only be helpful if they are a site access.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (3) If I do not get any of the assistance you recommend, can I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an OCR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complaint for this incident? Is it possible to relate it back to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had as a student?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I greatly appreciate any and all advice in this matter as I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitent to do the research but it really needs to be done. Most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a fight with them. I have been very apprehensive to approach
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this request.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aimee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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