[blindLaw] Discrimination

Tue Oct 1 17:29:55 UTC 2019

For anybody who uses NVDA, you can tell if a quote is a smart quote
because NVDA will say left/right quote, not just quote.

On 9/28/19, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Fair point, Ger.  And then to hold me accountable going forward if  I
> didn't fix them.
>
> On 9/25/19, Gerard Sadlier <gerard.sadlier at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Laura
>>
>> I must say, I think the appropriate course for your under-graduate
>> Professors to have followed would have been to:
>> 1. Mark on the substance (since to do otherwise would presumably
>> effect your grades and therefore have a disproportionate impact on
>> your future); and
>> 2. To tell you they were doing so and why and explain the issues with
>> content.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Ger
>>
>> On 9/24/19, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Right, exactly.  I submitted paper upon paper upon paper in undergrad
>>> with these errors.  I was judged based on the "substance," because
>>> that's what the profs thought was "equitable."  In fact, it wasn't.
>>> Because no one's going to care about "equity" when you're tasked with
>>> drafting something for a client.  This is why I really think this is
>>> in the back of people's minds... how much extra work are we going to
>>> need to put in to make her work look presentable?
>>>
>>> And you are right, Angie.  People just don't think to tell.  And they
>>> see this stuff and think, it'll only take a second for me to fix
>>> this...  No harm, no foul.
>>>
>>> My example is that I never had Braille marking/sound schemes turned on
>>> for highlighting.  I never really thought about highlighting.  But
>>> people at my Firm would highlight things that needed to be filled in
>>> when filing, such as the final word count and the submission date.  So
>>> although I would fill in everything, they were still in yellow.  My
>>> assistant was just changing everything.  After I had yet another
>>> uncomfortable conversation about how I knew she thought she was
>>> helping, and I really appreciated it, etc etc etc etc etc, she told me
>>> she'd make sure to tell me if anything similar came up in the future.
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>> On 9/24/19, Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Ha.  You are all proving my point, sadly.  The same happened to me,
>>>> except htat my law review editor pointed it out.  The same thing
>>>> happens with an apostrophe.  A "straight" apostrophe is ascii value
>>>> 39, and curly smart apostrophes are 8216 and 8217.  Hate to tell you,
>>>> Angie, but any apostrophes would have come out as straight when
>>>> drafted in note pad too.  This can also happen when copy/pasting from
>>>> Westlaw or briefs or pdfs.
>>>>
>>>> I have been asking people at Vispero to make it possible to customize
>>>> the Jaws word dictionary so that you can add 34 and replace it with
>>>> the word "straight quote" and likewise with the straight apostrophe.
>>>> This used to work, but doesn't anymore.  But since Jaws seems to be so
>>>> tempermental these days, you might give it a go and see if it works
>>>> for you.
>>>>
>>>> And no, there is no Braille differences between these symbols.  I,
>>>> too, check for underlying ascii values.  I also do a control+F before
>>>> submitting any document, searching for a ^34 and ^39.  Placing a caret
>>>> before the number causes word to search for the ascii value.
>>>>
>>>> Laura
>>>>
>>>> On 9/24/19, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Fascinating. JAWS doesn't tell me there's any difference whatsoever.
>>>>> How do you access the ASCII information? Similarly, how in the world
>>>>> do we learn these things while we're still in school?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/24/19, Angela Matney via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I will do my best to describe them. I will only talk about double
>>>>>> quotes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Straight quotes are tapered, with the narrow end at the bottom. The
>>>>>> widest
>>>>>> point is at the top. There is  only one symbol that represents the
>>>>>> quotation
>>>>>> mark, whether it is an opening quote or a closing quote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Curly quotes are also tapered, with the narrow point at the bottom,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are curved. The opening quote is shaped similar to a print letter “C,”
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> its curve facing to the right. The closing quote, on the right of the
>>>>>> enclosed material, is shaped like a backwards “C,” so its curve faces
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> left. It is almost like they are enclosing the material.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess literary braille technically uses smart quotes, since the
>>>>>> opening
>>>>>> and closing quotes are different. I guess you could use two
>>>>>> apostrophes
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> represent both opening and closing quotes in braille, but I really
>>>>>> don’t
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> that very often. I don’t think braille has an equivalent for the
>>>>>> straight
>>>>>> quote, but someone please jump in and correct me it I’m wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Here is a sentence enclosed in smart quotes.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Here is a sentence enclosed in straight quotes."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created the second sentence by typing in Notepad and pasting it into
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you tell the difference?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ray Wayne
>>>>>> via
>>>>>> BlindLaw
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 4:40 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Discrimination
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was wondering that also. Is there a Braille symbol for a smart
>>>>>> quote?
>>>>>> Ray Wayne, New York City
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: BlindLaw
>>>>>> <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Shannon via BlindLaw
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 4:18 PM
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>>>>>> Cc: Shannon <sbg at sbgaal.com<mailto:sbg at sbgaal.com>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Discrimination
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry Laura,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, I was trying to do too many things at once. My question was
>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>> knowing the difference between a straight and smart quote/apostrophe?
>>>>>> I am not sure I know what a smart quote is. Can you explain.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shannon Brady Geihsler
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
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>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura
>>>>>> Wolk
>>>>>> via BlindLaw
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 2:36 PM
>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>> Cc: Laura Wolk
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Discrimination
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shannon, would you mind repeating your question? I don't quite
>>>>>> understand
>>>>>> what you are trying to ask.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As to the broader conversation, I think what I'm trying to get at is
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> have to face the sad but true reality that there are, in fact, blind
>>>>>> attorneys out there who produce work of lesser visual quality, whose
>>>>>> firms
>>>>>> or legal assistants or whatever come along behind and clean up the
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> happens. And no one ever tells the person, so, as Angie said, the
>>>>>> person
>>>>>> continues to remain unaware of the errors they make over and over
>>>>>> again,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the people continue to believe that the blind person is not as capable
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> the rest of their peers. This has happened to me also. I have even had
>>>>>> conversations where I initially pressed the superior to give me blind
>>>>>> specific feedback, they said nothing was wrong, then I pressed and
>>>>>> said
>>>>>> "this is very important to me. Whatever you tell me, I will be able to
>>>>>> figure out a way to address it." And then they did give me some
>>>>>> feedback.
>>>>>> A
>>>>>> friend and former co-clerk works with a blind guy and noticed that his
>>>>>> emails were formatted whackily. The junior partner told my friend not
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> say
>>>>>> anything but, being friends with me, he knew it was the right thing to
>>>>>> do.
>>>>>> Of course, the blind attorney was very grateful and a bit embarrassed.
>>>>>> This
>>>>>> is the stuff I'm talking about. We need to be real about the soft
>>>>>> skills
>>>>>> help we need, and we need to create awareness that is indeed OK to
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> blind person "Hey, Just an FYI, you are occasionally doing something
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> makes your documents look strange."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/24/19, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw
>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Laura and all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for such an enlightening discussion surrounding employment
>>>>>>> discrimination. I have planned conversations with a couple of
>>>>>>> attorneys responsible for hiring associates and will ask them for
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> information. Laura, I will send you an email off-list to learn more
>>>>>>> from your perspective.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/24/19, Cody Davis via BlindLaw
>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I was able to secure a temporary position at my law school following
>>>>>>>> graduation and licensure. Now, that temporary position is ending
>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>> Monday. And, despite my wholehearted efforts over the last 6 months
>>>>>>>> to find work, I have no employment lined up. (Somewhat jokingly) I’m
>>>>>>>> far too bitter at this point to sell someone on a career in law. I
>>>>>>>> think Meredith and James have done an excellent job of giving you
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> you should consider in looking to go to law school.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was initially reluctant to do any disability rights related work
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> law school because I did not want to be placed in that box either.
>>>>>>>> But, I looked for work in that area assuming that employers in that
>>>>>>>> area might be a bit more understanding and educated. I was wrong. Do
>>>>>>>> not assume that those who practice disability rights law are any
>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>> susceptible to the biases, misperceptions, or lack of understanding
>>>>>>>> that leads to employment discrimination.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think the best thing to do, James, is to continue educating folks
>>>>>>>> on the reality that blind or visually impaired attorneys are as
>>>>>>>> capable as their sighted counterparts in all but a very few ways. My
>>>>>>>> local bar has created a Taskforce to address, among other issues,
>>>>>>>> employment discrimination against persons with disabilities in the
>>>>>>>> legal profession. We are trying to provide education to members of
>>>>>>>> the bar on the capacity of lawyers with disabilities in the hopes
>>>>>>>> that this will alleviate some of the underlying causes of employment
>>>>>>>> discrimination. This is done by presenting at meetings of the local
>>>>>>>> bench and bar, hosting CLE’s, and publishing writings like the blog
>>>>>>>> post linked below.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionalism-Committ
>>>>>>>><https://www.wakecountybar.org/blogpost/727449/Professionalism-Committ%3cBR%3e%3e%3e>
>>>>>>>> ee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cody, James, Meredith, what might you all offer as good reasons for
>>>>>>>>> people like myself and Sanho pursuing a legal degree? I took the
>>>>>>>>> LSAT this past Saturday. I am proud of that for whatever it’s
>>>>>>>>> worth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That said, it can be hard to persevere when such anecdotes provide
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> majority of what we used to fill our sales.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, I have often been paranoid about the existence of a
>>>>>>>>> phenomenon
>>>>>>>>> such as the one you indicate Cody. I have worried that someone will
>>>>>>>>> see my GPA and somehow assume that all of my professors have
>>>>>>>>> independently decided to be generous and grant grades which I do
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> deserve. This is of course irrational but still what I’m hearing
>>>>>>>>> supports that fear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am interested in a few different areas of the law. I am not
>>>>>>>>> particularly drawn to disability rights. One of the reasons why is
>>>>>>>>> that I don’t want to be silo into a field which others expect me to
>>>>>>>>> enter. I don’t want to be limited to practice law in an area
>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>> to one of my most visible and perceptibly limiting characteristics.
>>>>>>>>> All of that said, I can see how that may be the most excepting
>>>>>>>>> field
>>>>>>>>> of practice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Damn darn heck! Anyway, please forgive some of the dictation
>>>>>>>>> errors.
>>>>>>>>> I am following my one year-old around as I compose. I don’t have
>>>>>>>>> time to perfect this dispatch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much everyone for your insight.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>>>>> 716-563-9882
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Cody Davis via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> James’ point is spot on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What I find even more disturbing than James’ observation is that
>>>>>>>>>> the experience a blind candidate may possess by way of externships
>>>>>>>>>> and internships does not seem to assuage employers’ concerns about
>>>>>>>>>> the candidates’ ability to practice. Despite my four externships
>>>>>>>>>> during law school in which I was able to perform the work assigned
>>>>>>>>>> to the satisfaction of my supervisors, I think employers still
>>>>>>>>>> doubt my abilities to deliver the work they expect. Shouldn’t my
>>>>>>>>>> history of success in the workplace evidence my ability to thrive
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> practice?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have also found that fellow attorneys and people in general have
>>>>>>>>>> no issue trusting that I am capable to do something, so long as I
>>>>>>>>>> am not being paid to do it. I have absolutely no problem securing
>>>>>>>>>> volunteer or community involvement opportunities. .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 1:12 PM, Meredith Ballard via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think you summed it up perfectly with performance in law school
>>>>>>>>>>> being seen as a parlor trick. Despite the fact that I had a
>>>>>>>>>>> degree
>>>>>>>>>>> and a license, I was asked in a job interview how I got those
>>>>>>>>>>> things if I can’t read a physical book. They seemed to be under
>>>>>>>>>>> the impression that someone must have helped me with all my
>>>>>>>>>>> schooling.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have noticed a big difference in how I am treated by other
>>>>>>>>>>> attorneys when they find out I have my own firm versus how I was
>>>>>>>>>>> treated when I was first out of school and looking for a job.
>>>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>>> you work for yourself other attorneys see you as someone they can
>>>>>>>>>>> potentially work with and it is easier to make connections.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Discrimination in the hiring process is more intense than I
>>>>>>>>>>> thought it would be before entering the profession.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Meredith Ballard
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> James, your candor is both refreshing and stimulus for heart
>>>>>>>>>>>> break.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>>>>>>>> 716-563-9882 <tel:716-563-9882>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:37 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org%20%3cmailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I recently heard from a friend of mine--also blind, also an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attorney, practicing for quite some time now--that many
>>>>>>>>>>>>> employers pretty much look at a blind person's success in law
>>>>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a "parlor trick"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not an indication of your ability to thrive in practice. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he's right, and it makes a great deal of sense in light of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too many employers do not equate doing well in law school,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is still extremely important by the way, with all the things
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that law school doesn't prepare you for: taking depositions,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> handling contentious meetings with opposing counsel, reviewing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents, and, of course, handling evidence with any kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> visual
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aspect to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost have to prove that you can do all of these things before
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being?? seen as potentially able to do them in practice. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand that things are somewhat less grim for people who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have clerkships. I will soon find out if this is true in my own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> case. I also don't know if the same fears cloud employers'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> judgments in a transactional or compliance?? setting, given the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nature of the work. So, be prepared for a lot of rejection, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still be the best possible candidate, so that you can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> competitive for opportunities that can act as a bridge to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> long-term, full-time position.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/2019 11:42 AM, Cody Davis via BlindLaw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remarkably discriminatory. Far more so than my naive self
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought when I was first licensed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good morning. How discriminatory have you found hiring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> practices so far? Messages are welcome on or off-list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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