[blindLaw] Word crash only with Jaws in large documents-solution

Mon Sep 9 14:35:14 UTC 2019

Angie-Was responding to your email in context of what Randy wrote.

Laura- content objects is a programming concept, but think of it this way. Your entire document is your parent object, and inside it are sections, paragraphs, pages, etc. These are your common examples of content objects. So Jaws tries to count them each time when document loads.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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> On 09-Sep-2019, at 7:50 PM, Angela Matney <amatney at loeb.com> wrote:
> 
> Amar, sorry, I’m not sure what you’re referring to below with respect to 500. I think maybe this is an issue experienced by someone else.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Angie
> From: Amar Jain <amarjain at amarjain.com> 
> Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 10:15 AM
> To: Angela Matney <amatney at loeb.com>
> Cc: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; Farber, Randy <rfarber at jw.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Word crash only with Jaws in large documents-solution
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> 
> Your understanding is correct Angie. But I am not sure why you are seeing 500 as well. Before finding, we can tick ‘match whole words’. This has not sorted out the problem fully and I have sent them a pdf of 2024 pages where Word completely crashes with Jaws.
>  
> Regards,
> Amar Jain
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 09-Sep-2019, at 7:16 PM, Angela Matney <amatney at loeb.com> wrote:
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> Given that the function of a semicolon at the beginning of a line is generally to tell a compiler to ignore what follows, my guess is that it’s supposed to be at the beginning of the “D” in “Detect.” Having said that, I don’t do JAWS scripting, so this is my (semi-)educated guess. I’m going to try this, because I think it may help with some other issues I’ve had in Word that are hard or impossible to duplicate.
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> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Farber, Randy via BlindLaw
> Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2019 11:08 PM
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> Cc: Farber, Randy <rfarber at jw.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Word crash only with Jaws in large documents-solution
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> Hello Amar - 
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> Is the semicolon at the beginning of the line before the "D" or is it at the beginning of a second line?
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> Randy
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> Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2019 9:06 PM
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> Cc: Amar Jain <amarjain at amarjain.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Word crash only with Jaws in large documents-solution
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> Here is the solution which will be included in Jaws 2020.
> 
> Go into Word, then bring up Script Manager with insert 0.
> Press Control+F and paste in the following:
> DetectObjectsInDocumentCountChange()
> Move your cursor to the beginning of the line and type a semicolon.
> Press control+S to compile, now objects will not be counted every time a document is loaded.
> 
> Thanks,
> Amar Jain
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amar Jain <amarjain at amarjain.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 6:53 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Nicole Askins <njaskins at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Word crash only with Jaws in large documents
> 
> Hi Randy,
> 
> I tried all of that including complete pagination. But nothing worked.
> 
> The interim solution is to convert the scanned pdf into HTML from Fine Reader itself.
> 
> Regards,
> Amar Jain
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On 29-Aug-2019, at 11:07 PM, Nicole Askins via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Similarly, I am having difficulty with narrator in that it has a lag
> > that does not type the actual words that I am typing. For example if I
> > type of word to quickly there are only a few letters. Does anyone have
> > any similar situations? If so how did you resolve it. I am not a Jaws
> > user
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 9:17 AM Farber, Randy via BlindLaw <
> > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Amar - I have found that JAWS can take a couple of minutes to
> >> get settled in large documents. For example I was working on a 250
> >> page document last night it took several minutes at one point for
> >> JAWS to start responding again. If waiting for a few minutes doesn't
> >> work, can you save the document as an RTF or a Word 97 document and
> >> retain the formatting that you need?
> >>
> >> Randy
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amar Jain
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> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:03 PM
> >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> >> Cc: Amar Jain <amarjain at amarjain.com>
> >> Subject: [blindLaw] Word crash only with Jaws in large documents
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> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Using MS Office 2016 in Windows Server 2016 with Citrix Xen app.
> >> While converting documents through Fine Reader which needs to retain
> >> headers and footers of the VDR, the resulting word document goes in
> >> not responding state as soon as we navigate to next page. As
> >> indicated, it only happens while Jaws is running and not with Narrator / NVDA.
> >>
> >> I have also tried to save this into pdf / html from Word file, but
> >> word is just creating another docx file. If anyone has been through
> >> this and can share a workable solution, then it would be of great help.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Amar Jain
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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