[blindLaw] Anxiety about misconstruing content due to accessibility barriers

Shannon sbg at sbgaal.com
Sat Apr 11 23:06:58 UTC 2020


I agree.  When I suggested Aira, I was thinking of pleadings filed etc. that are part of the public record.  I use my legal assistant for these types of tasks.  I think either hiring a reader or having somone in the firm assist is the best option for anything that is confidential.



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From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
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Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Anxiety about misconstruing content due to accessibility barriers

Rahul:

After you have done your best to read and identify the areas of the document in which you are less confident, could you hire a reader to assist in reviewing the relevant passages? This is what I have done.

Tai Tomasi, J.D.


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From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw
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Hi all

I firmly agree with James that it is not appropriate to ask anyone outside of the firm to read a document to you.

If in doubt Rahul, you need to ask for assistance. I would always check that a document that should have been signed (like a contract) has been for example. Personally, I find converting documents to text generally gives the safest results. Ideally, I would copy out of a pdf but if necessary I would convert using Omnipage.

Sorry I couldn't be more help and for the belated reply.

Kind regards

Ger

On 4/1/20, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Thank you. This is helpful.
>
> James, while using single-page view, how do you use the find command 
> effectively in PDFs? For that requires access to the whole document to 
> isolate what is important. Do you run the find command on the whole 
> document and then switch to single-page navigation on having located 
> the relevant pages?
>
> Rahul
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 31, 2020, at 11:59 PM, James Fetter via BlindLaw 
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not comfortable using either a family member or Aira agent for 
>> anything involving privileged or confidential information. I 
>> frequently convert PDFs to Word and have my reading preferences in 
>> Adobe set such that only one page is displayed at a time. This seems 
>> to solve the jumping around issue. I have also found that reading 
>> PDFs on my (technically my
>> firm's) iPhone is a workable solution.
>>
>>
>>> On 3/31/2020 2:18 PM, Paul Harpur via BlindLaw wrote:
>>> Also Facetime a family member you trust if it is sensitive.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Associate Professor Paul Harpur
>>> BBus (HRm), LLB (Hons) LLM, PhD, solicitor of the High Court of 
>>> Australia
>>> (non-practicing)
>>> Academic Fellow, Harvard Law School Project on Disability 
>>> International Distinguished Fellow, Burton Blatt Institute, SU, New 
>>> York Fulbright Future Scholar Associate Professor, The University of 
>>> Queensland Law School
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Shannon via BlindLaw
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>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Anxiety about misconstruing content due to 
>>> accessibility barriers
>>>
>>> I struggle with them.  The only solution I have found is when the 
>>> document is unclear after ocr, having sighted assistance to look at 
>>> the part that is unclear.  An AIRA agent is helpful if you do not 
>>> want to ask a colleague or legal assistant.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Shannon Brady Geihsler
>>>
>>> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
>>> 1212 Texas Avenue
>>> Lubbock, Texas 79401
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 12:53 PM
>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Rahul Bajaj
>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Anxiety about misconstruing content due to 
>>> accessibility barriers
>>>
>>> Hi, all,
>>>
>>> This may be a strange question. However, I findmyself worrying 
>>> incessantly about having misread or skipped something in legal 
>>> documents because of an accessibility barrier. Specifically, these 
>>> feelings become particularly pronounced for me, and my confidence in 
>>> what I read is not up to the mark,given that:
>>> A. One has to often convert documents into an accessible format 
>>> using an OCR solution. And the accuracy level of the output 
>>> sometimes leaves much to be desired; and B. JAWS often jumps around 
>>> in PDF documents between paras of its own accord, so I end up not 
>>> being fully confident about what I have read in such documents.
>>>
>>> Does anyone else struggle with these thoughts? Do you have in mind 
>>> any solutions?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rahul
>>>
>>>
>>>
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