[blindLaw] Accessing Case Text Without Citations etc.

[tim at timeldermusic.com]

IN full disclosure, I don't use Garner's practice in any of my work.  But I
am also a double-spacer at the end of sentences.  In my perfect digital
world, Garner's practice would be the norm and we would all have the ability
to access citation information in a separate format that enabled
programmatically determining the difference between text and citation text.
If Garner's system were adopted in my imaginary world, we would have the
choice to skip, jump to or review citation text via verbosity controls.
That world doesn't exist today and poorly formatted opinions using Garner's
footnote approach make it even more difficult to reliably access citation
text with a screen reader.  





-----Original Message-----
From: lmendez716 at gmail.com <lmendez716 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 12:59 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; tim at timeldermusic.com
Cc: 'Laura Wolk' <laura.wolk at gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [blindLaw] Accessing Case Text Without Citations etc.

Agreed.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 3:40 PM
To: tim at timeldermusic.com
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Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accessing Case Text Without Citations etc.

Dissenter here, as always.  Citations can give you really useful and
immediate info, such as how old the case is, and whether someone is playing
fast and loose with majorities versus concurrences, etc.

On 5/19/21, tim at timeldermusic.com <tim at timeldermusic.com> wrote:
> Syed,
>
> Note that legal writing guru, Bryan Garner, and many of his footnote 
> followers agree with you.  But then we blind attorneys are subject to 
> the accessible footnoting formats.  You'll get used to inline 
> citations soon enough.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 2:51 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accessing Case Text Without Citations etc.
>
> Nope.  And that's how your casebooks and all filings will be too.
>
> On 5/18/21, Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I am currently taking a law school prep course. The cases we are 
>> reading are pulled from West Law. There are numerous citation 
>> numbers, footers and stuff that is not the text of the case. I 
>> understand all these citations etc. are important, but for my 
>> purpose, I would like to access just the text of the case, as trying 
>> to listen for the text amongst all the numbers is really driving me 
>> up the wall. Is there a solution to this?
>>
>> Thank you so much!
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>      Syed Rizvi
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