[blindLaw] Accessing Case Text Without Citations etc.

[Syed Rizvi]

I'm also a relatively newer screen reader user, so my listening skills are still being developed.

> On May 19, 2021, at 4:25 PM, Tim Elder via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> IN full disclosure, I don't use Garner's practice in any of my work.  But I
> am also a double-spacer at the end of sentences.  In my perfect digital
> world, Garner's practice would be the norm and we would all have the ability
> to access citation information in a separate format that enabled
> programmatically determining the difference between text and citation text.
> If Garner's system were adopted in my imaginary world, we would have the
> choice to skip, jump to or review citation text via verbosity controls.
> That world doesn't exist today and poorly formatted opinions using Garner's
> footnote approach make it even more difficult to reliably access citation
> text with a screen reader.  
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: lmendez716 at gmail.com <lmendez716 at gmail.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 12:59 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; tim at timeldermusic.com
> Cc: 'Laura Wolk' <laura.wolk at gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [blindLaw] Accessing Case Text Without Citations etc.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via
> BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 3:40 PM
> To: tim at timeldermusic.com
> Cc: Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com>; Blind Law Mailing List
> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accessing Case Text Without Citations etc.
> 
> Dissenter here, as always.  Citations can give you really useful and
> immediate info, such as how old the case is, and whether someone is playing
> fast and loose with majorities versus concurrences, etc.
> 
>> On 5/19/21, tim at timeldermusic.com <tim at timeldermusic.com> wrote:
>> Syed,
>> 
>> Note that legal writing guru, Bryan Garner, and many of his footnote 
>> followers agree with you.  But then we blind attorneys are subject to 
>> the accessible footnoting formats.  You'll get used to inline 
>> citations soon enough.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 2:51 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accessing Case Text Without Citations etc.
>> 
>> Nope.  And that's how your casebooks and all filings will be too.
>> 
>>> On 5/18/21, Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> I am currently taking a law school prep course. The cases we are 
>>> reading are pulled from West Law. There are numerous citation 
>>> numbers, footers and stuff that is not the text of the case. I 
>>> understand all these citations etc. are important, but for my 
>>> purpose, I would like to access just the text of the case, as trying 
>>> to listen for the text amongst all the numbers is really driving me 
>>> up the wall. Is there a solution to this?
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much!
>>> 
>>> Respectfully,
>>>     Syed Rizvi
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