[blindLaw] Accessing Case Text Without Citations etc.

Fri May 21 20:00:43 UTC 2021

Don’t ask me Exactly  how, but you can skip repetitive text using voice dream such as  titles at the beginning of each page. It also has a feature where you can program an if than statement which is supposed to allow you to skip text if certain information is indicated. additionally, I have heard of people using Department of rehab to pay to get Jaws scripts.

http://www.agora-net.com/~gray/voicedream/Help.html?back=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fclient%3Dsafari%26as_qdr%3Dall%26as_occt%3Dany%26safe%3Dactive%26as_q%3DHow+do+use+Voice+Dream+to+skip+titles%26channel%3Daplab%26source%3Da-app1%26hl%3Den

Once a match is found using any of the matching options, you can tell Voice Dream Reader to skip all text that match, or to pronounce it as if it's another piece of text. For example, you can pronounce "lol" as "laughing out loud", or spell out "MAD" as "M-A-D".

Dictated on an accessible device. 

> On May 19, 2021, at 11:34 PM, Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm also a relatively newer screen reader user, so my listening skills are still being developed.
> 
>> On May 19, 2021, at 4:25 PM, Tim Elder via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> IN full disclosure, I don't use Garner's practice in any of my work.  But I
>> am also a double-spacer at the end of sentences.  In my perfect digital
>> world, Garner's practice would be the norm and we would all have the ability
>> to access citation information in a separate format that enabled
>> programmatically determining the difference between text and citation text.
>> If Garner's system were adopted in my imaginary world, we would have the
>> choice to skip, jump to or review citation text via verbosity controls.
>> That world doesn't exist today and poorly formatted opinions using Garner's
>> footnote approach make it even more difficult to reliably access citation
>> text with a screen reader.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lmendez716 at gmail.com <lmendez716 at gmail.com> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 12:59 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; tim at timeldermusic.com
>> Cc: 'Laura Wolk' <laura.wolk at gmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: [blindLaw] Accessing Case Text Without Citations etc.
>> 
>> Agreed.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via
>> BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 3:40 PM
>> To: tim at timeldermusic.com
>> Cc: Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com>; Blind Law Mailing List
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accessing Case Text Without Citations etc.
>> 
>> Dissenter here, as always.  Citations can give you really useful and
>> immediate info, such as how old the case is, and whether someone is playing
>> fast and loose with majorities versus concurrences, etc.
>> 
>>>> On 5/19/21, tim at timeldermusic.com <tim at timeldermusic.com> wrote:
>>> Syed,
>>> 
>>> Note that legal writing guru, Bryan Garner, and many of his footnote 
>>> followers agree with you.  But then we blind attorneys are subject to 
>>> the accessible footnoting formats.  You'll get used to inline 
>>> citations soon enough.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 2:51 PM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Accessing Case Text Without Citations etc.
>>> 
>>> Nope.  And that's how your casebooks and all filings will be too.
>>> 
>>>> On 5/18/21, Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> 
>>>> I am currently taking a law school prep course. The cases we are 
>>>> reading are pulled from West Law. There are numerous citation 
>>>> numbers, footers and stuff that is not the text of the case. I 
>>>> understand all these citations etc. are important, but for my 
>>>> purpose, I would like to access just the text of the case, as trying 
>>>> to listen for the text amongst all the numbers is really driving me 
>>>> up the wall. Is there a solution to this?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you so much!
>>>> 
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>    Syed Rizvi
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