[blindLaw] Blind Law Comments.

Tue Sep 10 14:13:04 UTC 2024

You are assuming others have the same vision capacities or assisted devices
as you.

On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 9:03 AM wmodnl wmodnl via BlindLaw <
blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> I am not a lawyer i’m perplexed about this ongoing discussion.
> I went to BlindLaw page:
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> I copied the following text:
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> There is a disclaimer, which to my understanding and as I said earlier,
> I'm not a lawyer, infer to any user using the lists you're using a public
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> public platform. What changed or what is a new issue?
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> Thanks
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> On Sep 10, 2024, at 9:42 AM, Paul Harpur via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
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> Dear Christine
>
> Disability is always sensitive and to help understand what was posted I
> thought I would try to find the relevant discussion.  I hit Google with
> your name and disability and found the below article by the American Bar
> Association instead:
>
> https://www.americanbar.org/groups/diversity/disabilityrights/news/celebrating-disability-pride-at-aba/
> Christine Busanelli
> Special Advisor to the ABA’s Commission on Disability Rights
> “To me, it means not being micro analyzed for what I can and cannot do
> (related to my disability) and for what technology I use and do not use. It
> also
> means not being compared to someone’s cousin/uncle/mother/brother’s
> disability issue. It means recognizing that everyone’s disability manifests
> differently,
> and there is no way anyone can understand my life challenges as they are
> not in my shoes. So when I speak about my challenges, listen with respect
> and
> compassion.”
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Christine B via
> BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2024 11:17 PM
> To: maxine.gretchokoff at yahoo.com; Ronza Othman <rothmanjd at gmail.com>;
> chrisstewartjd at gmail.com; Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Christine B <christinebusanelli at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Blind Law Comments.
>
> Your comments are libelous, Maxine, and a perfect example of why I’d
> choose to leave this group. I am sharing your spewing hatred now for all
> group members to view. My disability is not an excuse, it’s a fact. Your
> obvious concern is for the group name and not its members, how selfish and
> unprofessional.
>
> Did you think I wouldn’t expose your derogatory tirade? Think again.
>
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> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 8:11 AM <maxine.gretchokoff at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
>
>
>     I’ve been keeping up with your comments on our public list serve.
> One’s disability is not an excuse, your comments are public and
> childish, and I highly recommend you look into constructive criticism,
> critical thinking, expectations of privacy, and seek to shift our
> community into something more whole rather than be a divisive figure.
> Ma’am, please learn from this and engage in a manner befitting an
> attorney and a member of the blind community even if you choose not to
> associate with the NFB from this point. If your now public comments
> are found out, perhaps by a sensationalist media company, please think
> of the damage it does to our credibility and image is a community and
> not just a specific blind organization. If you’d like to continue the
> discussion please let me know.
> Otherwise, thank you for your time and I hope you have a good day.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> *Maxine J. Gretchokoff (They/Them)*
>
> Civil Air Patrol Auxiliary Airman,
>
> Magnolia At-Large Chapter Member, MS NFB
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> *Cell:* 769.768.0335
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> *Email:* Maxine.Gretchokoff at yahoo.com
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